>born in 1998 >only now got around the music of nirvana

>>73741738
Pass

>>73741738
What's your favorite album? Mine is Incesticide, but In Utero is also great.

>>73741738
Because they're shit.

>>73741738
Nirvana is fucking shit. Kurt is alone to thank for the death of alternative scenes

>>73741814
>t. grime fanboi

go away before i smack you on the noggin
these fucking kids i swear

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>>73741738
people here are just assblasted that they btfo fag and dad rock and made rock into something that isn't shitty power ballads and cringey solos.

>>73741875
>implying Nirvana made anything
>implying Nirvana did anything new at all
dude Melvins and Flippers sound with Pixies soundwriting lmao

>>73741738
I like Nirvana but Kurt was a shit guitar player, creative but shit and most of his style is a rip off of the Melvins which were the original grunge band except they didn't have (and I quote king Buzzo from the Melvins) the "wounded junkie look" which is too true since mtv needed a pretty young face and Kurt fit the bill, otherwise the Melvins would've been the Nirvana of today, go listen to them, the early stuff and you'll see why nobody talks about Nirvana nowadays.

Kurt couldn't handle the heat, offed himself because he got "too famous" too quickly, which he should've seen coming after Nevermind but kept going anyway, only has himself to blame, I mean, if you know your shit is 'new' and you got a pretty face then sooner or later you will be picked up by the mainstream audience, if he didn't want it then he should've just called it off after the first album.

Good band but way too over hyped, I didn't like his attitude either, treated others like a cunt because he was treated like a cunt, should've known better, he was clever, not clever enough apparently

>>73741916
>how can I criticize Nirvana?
>I'll just say they ripped off whomever they listed as an influence on wikipedia
kek

>>73741738
i remember my nirvana phase

dont worry it'll pass and you'll find better music

>>73741976
not the guy but do some research man, Kurt was a huge Melvins fan and used to roadie for them back in the day for a bit, pretty much stole their style shortly after and made his own band, except they didn't want to stay underground and appealed more to the kids of the 90's by being edgy and sounding 'deep'

>>73741976
But that is literally all they are tho

>>73741738
>>73742015
btw i was born in the same year and i got over nirvana and faggot hypocrite when i was 14 so ye

lot of people say that about melvins but to me the beats on nirvana are way different, more hip hop

>>73742016
>Kurt was a huge Melvins fan
None of their albums really sound like the Melvins. Does About a Girl sound like it? What about Heart-Shaped Box?

Melvins wish they had the pop sensibilities and power of Nirvana. They could never write a song like All Apologies. Without Nirvana NO ONE would be talking about the Melvins, period. That's why Buzzo brings em up so much.
>>73742019
Not really. Empty criticism is empty criticism

>>73741738
Why doesn't this board listen to them?
Because this isn't a music board, this is a board for pretentious faggots to brag about how much more obscure their music is.

>>73742061
>Without Nirvana NO ONE would be talking about the Melvins
imgaine beliving this

>>73742094
Not an argument.

>>73741916
>muh melvins
Their albums sound nothing like Melvins or some other grunge bands. They only took inspiration from pixies with nevermind, which was intended to be more poppy than the rest. Bleach, In Utero don't even sound remotely like what you just listed.

>>73741738
because most of us were born 5-10+ years before you and were already in the know.

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Only niggers and faggots hate Nirvana. Don't mind them, just feel sorry that they live every day listening to kanye and grimes.

>>73742061

Shiiiiet. Melvins' fanbase is mostly sludge fans. Or doom metal and desert rock types.

People who are really into Nirvana will recognize Melvins but not your regular "alt.rock" listener.

>>73742061
Kurt took the same approach to the music, made his shit sound dirtier and rougher and the attitude came with it, pretty much what the first Melvins album was all about, I'm not talking about the songs/riffs sounding the same.

Most of Nirvana "hits" were pretty much riffs directly ripped off of other songs and honestly, if it wasn't for Smells like teen spirit which was a direct rip off of another song, they wouldn't be famous at all, it was a catchy song then they caught on with their later stuff.
Besides, the "pop sensibilities" you're referring to are never a good thing in music, are they?

Of course he talks about Nirvana, I mean if someone ripped off your style so much and made millions on it and never gave you any credit, would you not at least get slightly pissed off? I'm surprised that mentioning their name was all he did, besides, the Melvins always refused to be bigger than they should be, they talk about refusing to play huge shows at times in some of their interviews, google that shit.

I listen to the Melvins because they're heavy, heavier than Nirvana ever was, their music appeals to a whole different audience so not sure what makes you think no one would be talking about the Melvins?

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>>73742061
Well, you did pick some of their more poppy songs instead of something like "Paper Cuts" or "Negative Creep". Not to say they ever were really noisy or sludgy, it's a different thing to be influenced by something (f.ex. Celtic Frost) than actually show it.

>>73742186
back to pol dude

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>>73742199
>le back to pol dude XDD
Back to redit. I can play this game too, faggot.

>>73742189
>Kurt took the same approach to the music
Shoe me a Melvins song that soudns like About a Girl.
>I'm not talking about the songs/riffs sounding the same.
Then what are you talking about?
>Most of Nirvana "hits" were pretty much riffs directly ripped off of other songs and honestly
Like what?
>are never a good thing in music, are they?
Why not?
>I listen to the Melvins because they're heavy, heavier than Nirvana ever was, their music appeals to a whole different audience
If that's true, then really Nirvana and Melvins are not that similar. Nice try.
>>73742193
>"Paper Cuts" or "Negative Creep"
Wow, you mean the forgotten, burried deep-LP cuts form their first album, what no one who knows Nirvana thinks of? Nice Cherrypicking. It won't work.

Answer the question. If you can't, then Nirvana and Melvins really aren't that similar.

>>73742186
>he says while posting the man that made being a nu-male mainstream

>>73742077
>>73742186
everyone grew up

honestly i listen to unplugged every now and then with fond memories but thats it

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read this book and you'll probably come to realize that nirvana wasn't as special as you thought

> The album was followed by several discographical speculations (singles, mini CDs,an album of unreleased and miscellaneous pieces), until their third real album, IN UTERO (Geffen), appeared in 1993.
It had been announced as a brutal and harsh work - yet another Seattle-style marketing scoop - as if Nirvana should refuse their modern pop star status. As a matter of fact the new album was absolutely in line with both their image and sound. But it also showed their leader's limits, as well as their limit as a group.

>>73741738
>His style was a rip of the Melvins

All people who say this are just quoting Kurt which makes it even funnier

>>73741916
This being an example
All you hear is
>Hurr durr pixies melvins

When Kurt's songwriting was actually an amalgamation of a ton of influences. What I hear personally is a lot of Wipers, a lot of Jesus Lizard attitude, and a lot of Big Black. The whole melvins meme is just something Kurt said himself, as well as Pixies.

>>73742358
None of those band mentioned in that book sound like Nirvana, so yeah, they really are special.

Nice try though.

Their idea of rock music can not be delivered in more than a couple of ways, so they are forced to repeat in Rape Me the substance of Teen Spirit and in Radio Friendly Unit Shifter the essence of Negative Creep. In Pennyroyal Tea, Heart-Shaped Box and Serve The Servants an endless sequence of grunge surgery is performed upon the Beatles' somatic features. However, Cheap Trick had already tried that in an humbler way and, if nothing else, with self-irony. In a word, this is the weakest among Nirvana's records, the one in which the formula starts to falter.

>>73742375
>>73742392
What instrument does he play again?

If NEVERMIND had been greeted as a generation's manifesto, IN UTERO is nothing else but Cobain's personal odyssey (in the meantime he had married Courtney Love, one of the Hole's); he needs to face his own post-teenage disorders but he has neither the mental skills nor the moral maturity to do it. The result is the same as in the previous album: a dark and aimless feeling of impotence, forbereance, fatalism, that well summarizes the navel-quality of Cobain's music.

>>73742412
he's smart and articulate about his words and loyal to his fanbase

something kurt "dude my parents divorced wahh lmao" cobain isn't

>>73742061
Drone doom fans would still talk about Melvins if there was no nirvana

>>73742445
>something kurt "dude my parents divorced wahh lmao" cobain isn't
FACT: more people relate to the words of Kurt Cobain than Scruffy

Thus Kurt is more successful as an artist than Scruffy

>>73742462
Not really, they wouldn't be able to say "Nirvana ripped off Melvins!" and would literally have nothing left to talk about.

>>73742473
> more people

so idiots then

>>73742491
You are the one born in 1998 yeah? Because it shows

>>73742521
Ooops you didn't answer my question: What instrument does he play?
>>73742524
Nope. Oh and not an argument, btw

>>73742491
The melvins influencing drone doom has nothing to do with nirvana

>>73742491
dude, the Melvins has a huge, diverse discography filled with interesting music. there's plenty to talk about besides kurt "ripping them off"

>>73742285
>Shoe me a Melvins song that soudns like About a Girl.
Why would I do that? just listen to the first melvins album and then compare the approach to lets say, Paper Cuts, also very Celtic Frost like. Its just edgy but tries too hard to be like Melvins, which was dirty for a reason, it fit the music, with Nirvana it just didn't click with me, suppose thats why they went more mainstream with the other albums.
>I'm not talking about the songs/riffs sounding the same.
You literally quoted me on the previous question with the answer and you still don't know?
>Like what?
just look it up, don't be a cunt, mostly the popular stuff was ripped off, I can't be bothered doing research for you but Smells like Teen spirit was a direct rip off of some older song I can't remember the name of, he must've thought nobody will find out since it was like 2-3 decades before his time, "Milk it" is a direct rip off of "its Shoved" by the Melvins, just do some research man, most of their stuff is taken from other songs, sometimes they didn't even bother changing any of the instruments like in Milk it for example.
>Why not?
If you don't get it then there's no point explaining, thats why you stick up for Nirvana so much
>If that's true, then really Nirvana and Melvins are not that similar. Nice try.
stop being an edgy teenager, how does that even make sense? just because it appeals to a different audience it doesn't mean that a band of a different genre can't rip them off and just change a thing or two (like go mainstream and lighter)

Try harder kid, you just like Nirvana because its popular. If the world was in the right place and the melvins were in nirvana's place then nobody would give a shit about them as much as they do now. Nirvana is a dead band anyway, grunge died with the 90's which means it was never meant to be, it just keeps reappearing because of all the movies and documentaries that are coming out every couple of years just to milk it some more.

>>73742544
>you can't critique something unless you can preform it yourself.
With that logic nobody can critizise a president unless they have been into themself and nobody can critizise any movie unless they have made one themself.

>>73742628
literally one step above a food analogy, yikes
how can you deny that knowing music theory makes you more authoritative on music?

>>73742593
>Why would I do that?
You made a claim, you need to prove it
>lets say,
About A Girl and Heart-Shaped Box. Nope, doesn't sound like Melvins, sorry
>You literally quoted me on the previous question with the answer
What, the idea if playing heavy music with guitars? i guess Melvins are juts Black Sabbath rip offs then.
>just look it up
It's your argument, you need to prove it
>"Milk it" is a direct rip off of "its Shoved" by the Melvins
Not hearing it. Care to elaborate? chart it out and show us.
>If you don't get it then there's no point explaining
Oh is it because of >le scary pop songs and melody!
Wow, grow up. Are you 14?
>stop being an edgy teenager
Tell me more about how pop music is bad?
>Try harder kid, you just like Nirvana because its popular.
Quote me where i said I liked Nirvana.

Sure is a lot of damage control and lack of a real argument here

>>73742628
You can criticize, it just won't be valid and especially not intellectual, as Scruffy claims.

>>73742678
>moving the goalposts from an instrument to music theory

>>73742544
holy shit grow up
what a typical plebian response

>>73742700
if you know theory and don't play an instrument you're probably just autistic anyway

>>73741738
Because I already lived through them. They had there place in my life, by high school was almost 20 years agi

>>73741738
>born in 1998
hmm.

>how come this board doesnt talk more about them ??
because everyone knows they are amazing. It's like saying drugs are fun or steak tastes good.

have fun listening to them for the first time. check out red hot chili peppers and acid bath.

>>73742704
>I have no arguments
>better call someone a pleb!
Nice Are all Melvins fans this retarded?

>>73742729
>learning things out of personal interest is "autistic"

>>73742754
who are you quoting?
you can defeat me on semantics if you want but it seems like a waste to me

>>73742752
It's just an angry Scruffydrone, ignore it.

>>73741738
epic meme my /b/ro! did you also know nickelback sux xDDD
I can't wait for actual crap like the nigger hip hop that's currently "in" to be ridiculed like this in the future.

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>>73742775
>who are you quoting?
Sorry, but the ">" is not just used for exact quotes. I think you might be lost, here >>>r/music

>>73742808
I've been facetiously asking people that since 2011 but whatever makes you feel old mate

>>73741738
>how come this board doesnt talk more about them
Because everything good to say about them has already been said by teenagers with grunge themed tumblrs. All /mu/ discussion of Nirvana will therefore be these teenagers arguing with jaded hipsters about whether or not Nirvana is a rip-off band or not.

Nirvana is the McChicken of alternative music

Can no one seriously see Nirvana as anything outside an amalgamation of their influences? No wonder this board can't discuss music. They wrote and played great songs

>>73742685
>You made a claim, you need to prove it
Yea, and I explained it? are you really that retarded kek, you just keep pulling out songs out of your ass and keep asking "show me a song that sounds like it"
>About A Girl and Heart-Shaped Box. Nope, doesn't sound like Melvins, sorry
Yea because thats the only two songs Nirvana ever recorded... why are you this dense? are you running out of arguments?
>What, the idea if playing heavy music with guitars? i guess Melvins are juts Black Sabbath rip offs then.
I think they even said it themselves kek, every heavy band is a black sabbath rip off
>It's your argument, you need to prove it
its you who doesn't get it, why would I waste my time on something I know you're wrong about based on facts that exist out there, facts that you're too ignorant to check and learn from?
>Not hearing it. Care to elaborate? chart it out and show us.
ok now I know you're a troll, this is a 1:1 rip off and you know it, you just don't want to hear it because "I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG! LEAVE MY BAND ALONE!"
>Oh is it because of >le scary pop songs and melody!
Wow, grow up. Are you 14?
kys
>Tell me more about how pop music is bad?
In case of Nirvana, taking what many people listen to the Melvins for (which is the complete opposite of what pop is) and turning it mainstream/popular so that everyone can listen to the music that not everyone should listen to because it wasn't made for them. Its the equivalent of normie 'memes' on facebook, something more up your alley right?
>Quote me where i said I liked Nirvana.
You didn't have to, and probably didn't on purpose, but your fanboyism is showing.

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point, you're wasting my time and you won't even do your research to back up your points, I'm trying to tell you that the facts are out there, you just need to see them for yourself and until then you'll just keep being butthurt

>>73741738
>born in 1998

Disgusting desu.

>>73742987
they are fantastic. it's like I won't even bother responding to people that can't see it.

it's like saying pink floyd sucks

>>73742987
>*strumms power chord*
>some edgy and angsty lyrics to appeal to gen X
>*plays loud power chord*
>yells some edgy and angsty lyrics to appeal to gen X
great songs if i have ever heard em'

nirvana turned grunge into a slot machine. you know your a shit band and the logical conclusion to rock when all you do is play lazy chords, scream into a mic and crank deafening distortion up and preach the whole "DUDE PUNK ROCK FUCK COMMERCIALISM LMAO"

anyone who listens to them after the age of 16 should be castrated

>>73743028
>it's like saying pink floyd sucks
You are either underage or incredibly new. Pink Floyd has three albums worth listening to and the rest is fucking trash for 14 year old stoners

>>73742978
This. Fucking love my mcChickens.

>>73743077
>he thinks being called the McChiken of anything is a compiment
>he likes the McChiken
Average Nirvana fan right here

>>73743021
>the facts are out there
>but I won't post them though just trust me haha

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>>73743021
>>73742685
>>73742593
>being THIS dedicated to defend a shit band

boy it sure is summer

>>73743074
0/10 bait.

kys if you actually think that. I've been here for 9 years.

>>73742987
They are great songs because they were HEAVILY influenced, "influenced", by other great songs. They are given much more credit than they deserve and people who claim Kurt was talented need to listen to more music.

Theres a reason there are still thousands of bands that are influenced by lets say, Black Sabbath, and there are none that were influenced by Nirvana. Good songs, but it was just a phase, nothing that hasn't been done before or hasn't been done better now

Nirvana is among the worst bands of all time.

>>73741738
nirvana phase is essential to any 13-18 year old getting into music.

unplugged is their best album by a country mile, i pretty much only listen to their live albums. Reading, Paramount & MTV are great. studio albums are cool but i never go back to them anymore

I'M A NEGATIVE CREEP I'M A NEGATIVE CREEP I'M A NEGATIVE CREEP DROOOOONE

>>73743138
>I've been here for 9 years.
>using kys, a youtube meme used by 15 year olds
not convincing me here

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>>73743104
>Implying you wouldn't goggle up this gift from God.
I want plebs to GET OUT!

>>73743138
And for all that time you had embarrassing opinions on a band that peaked very early. I hate to be the one to tell you but I don't make the rules buddy

>>73743151
>and there are none that were influenced by Nirvana.
Literally untrue. All it takes is a google search, you fucking mong.

>>73743151
You can't honestly say that there are no bands influenced by Nirvana.

>>73743125
I'm not telling you to trust me, I'm telling you that you should stop being a stubborn 12 year old and do some background check before you start pulling shit out of your ass, thats just ridiculous.

>>73743137
I'm not defending shit, in fact I'm trying to tell this guy to stop defending Nirvana, can you read?

>>73743104
>He smells his own farts

>>73743173
>>73743167
Bro, who gives a fuck that they peaked early, they are an amazing band and so is nrivana. Your opinion is objectively shit.

>>73743194
Yeah a bunch of shit nu-male bands and buttrock

>>73743193
influenced =/= "we're a Nirvana cover band but won't say anything"

>>73743021
>and I explained it?
You havent given any factual proof of your claims.
One last try?
>Yea because thats the only two songs Nirvana ever recorded
Do you think Paper Cuts and Negative Creep are the only two songs Nirvana ever recorded? ... why are you this dense? are you running out of arguments?
>every heavy band is a black sabbath rip off
Then will you admit you are buying into a double standard? Why is it OK for Melvins to rip off someone but not Nirvana?
>why would I waste my time
Then retract your statement and admit defeat, or just stop posting. No one cares about your uneducated opinion
>"I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG! LEAVE MY BAND ALONE!"
I'm literally asking for evidence. Are you 12?
>Wow, grow up. Are you 14?
Then answer what's wrong with pop. You said there was. What other option is there, other than you being afraid of melodic music? Does it bother you when things aren't br0tal and heavy like Swans or Sun O))))))? That's what children think, you know.
>taking what many people listen to the Melvins for
Irrelevant, since you can't prove it. Next
>not everyone should listen to because it wasn't made for them.
Do you know music theory?

>>73743151
>They are given much more credit than they deserve

Yeah I agree. But that's just the music press/hype machine. I don't really give a shit about where they stand in music history. I still find them enjoyable to listen to. I like most of their influences too

>>73743212
Keep the goalposts where they are sweetums

>>73743210
>they are an amazing band and so is nrivana
how is high school treating you. Smoked any weed you paid 20$ a gram for lately

>>73743151
>and there are none that were influenced by Nirvana.
Did you not pay attention to the million alt rock bands that came out in 1995 and onwards?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-grunge

Oh maybe you weren't born yet.

>>73743250
Name one band from the 90s and 60s that are better then Nirvana and Floyd

>>73743250
Lol, are you for real?

>a nirvana thread with 96 replies

holy shit reddit must be down or something

>>73743270
chili peppers brusef

>>73743292
this is my exact reaction when a radiohead thread gets 96 replies lol!! what a coincidence.

>>73743074
Which three would those be?

>>73743196
>stop enjoying music I don't like!
>please don't ask me to prove whatever crazy things I might say
Stop and go back and smoke a joint in your mother's basement

>>73743292
Go back to your containment thread >>73735142

>>73743324
Not him but
Piper
Saucerful
Ummagumma
Reddit flyover brats will disagree.

>>73743318
radiohead fans are more tolerable than nirvana fans

>>73743292
Nah bro, everyone is jerkin about how Nirvana is bad. Come join the fun

>>73743270
>60's
The Velvet Underground
Captian Beefheart & His Magic Band
Os Mutantes
90's
Dinosaur Jr.
Melvins
Primus
Faith No More
Mr. Bungle
My Bloody Valentine
Shellac
Ween
Beck
Butthole Surfers
Entire norwegian black metal scene
Florida Death Metal scene

>>73743324
Piper, A Saucerful Of Secrets and Meddle

>>73743357
>Mr. Bungle
Opinion disregarded

But seriously there are some good band

Incesticide and Unplugged are some of Nirvana's magnum opus. Nevermind was a mistake.

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>>73743270
>>73743210
>>73743138
>>73743074
>>73743028
>>73742987
gtfo pls

>>73743270
>>73743357
Forgot The Beach Boys, The Doors and 13th Floor Elevators for the 60's

>>73743357
These are all good bands/artists

But so is Nirvana.

>>73741738
Nirvana are considered mainstream and teenage to many on /mu/. They're a great band, just /mu/tants are try hards.

Also a lot of people are really into Grunge and would rather dicuss other bands. Like everyone has heard Nirvana it's a Tad boring.

>>73743380
>hating on Pink Floyd is reddit
Hello newfag!

>>73743380
Dude don't even talk to me, I love Scooby Doo

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>all these assblasted cuck rock mad that based Nirvana BTFO shitty glam rock and made rock great again.
Never change, /mu/.

Nirvana was a shit band and Kurt Cobain is among the biggest frauds in pop music history.
Afghan Whigs should have been the biggest angst-ridden guitar band of the 90s instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gssTNxnD4cI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st_69q853Z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsQcNgExCNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV0L5r8Rw8w

Dive is the best song with yelling. Prove it

>>73743378
>Unplugged is mostly songs from
Nevermind
Contrarian detected

>>73743437
>cuck
>based
>BTFO
>make x great again
only missing a Pepe image and the words normie and degenerate to complete "the underage redditors first month on 4chan" starterpack

I fucking hate nirvana with a passion but I'll admit the drumming was pretty great. I really enjoy Queens of the Stone Age and think he is a good drummer. Foo Fighters however are such an awful band it makes me angry just thinking about it. I don't give a shit if he makes generic, safe, boring mainstream radio rock and lives out his rockstar dreams, if that's what he wants to do that's cool. It's the fact that he's constantly acting as if his shitty band are the saviours of rock music, constantly shitting all over other music talking about how his music is real music and acting as if his band are the living personification of genuine rock n roll. His music is the least rock n roll thing I could possibly think of, there is absolutely no rock n roll attitude in the Foo fighters at all. And that wouldn't be so bad if he could at least write a decent song. He has this fuck the mainstream, rock is the only real music attitude yet his music says everything but. You can't pretend to be punk while selling out stadiums and crafting your songs to be as radio friendly as possible, writing album after album of generic music with no development or originality whatsoever, just rehashing the same formula again and again. You know what Dave grohl I would rather listen to Justin bieber because at least he has shown some progression. the Foo fighters are almost like a boardroom creation of a rock band, incorporating the entirety of rock n roll into this basic bland no personality whatsoever music that has so little soul I feel completely empty while listening to it, the exact opposite of what rock music is supposed to do. I almost give him credit for at least being passionate about music, which he genuinely seems to be, but that actually makes me hate him more because I can't understand how someone with such a strong passion for music, a guy raised by punk rock, a member of nirvana could ever create something as atrocious as the Foo Fighters

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>>73743457
>hates nirvana
>likes afghan
>fucking
>whigs

>>73743457
No it should have been Gruntruck or if they didn't break up, Skin Yard.

>>73743479
>do not use buzzwords
>but it's OK to send Nirvana defenders to reddit
Stop

>>73743493
>>>/reddit/

>>73743493
This is so right. But I gotta ask. Are you railin' lines?

>>73743504
I never said not to use buzzwords. I also never said that Nirvana defenders belong on reddit. It's just that your post reeks of a 15 year old r/t_d blowover

>>73742039
wow! you're a really cool guy, glad you shared this info. You're amazing and better than your peers! keep it up

>>73743537
>It's just that your post reeks of a 15 year old r/t_d blowover
My post? What do you mean? Where did I say all that?

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this thread is still alive

This is the best Nirvana song. Prove me wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD0D7IuriWQ

Pro tip: [spoiler] you can't [/spoiler]

>>73743493
I was going to say that i agree but there are some good FF songs. But i can't name a single one.

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>People hate this guy

So i just listened to "its shoved" and Ill agree that "milk it" shares the same bass riff.

But I couldnt help but hear the similarities in that bass riff ( in both Its Shoved and Milk It) and the Pixies' bass in Bone Machine.

So..i dunno. Maye Kurt and Buzz both were inspired by Bone Machine, you could consider it a ripp off or you could see it as Melvins sampling a Pixies bass riff, and Nirvana sampling that sample.

But either way, sounds like both Melvins and Nirvana copied Pixies.

>>73743569
[spoiler]i can't[/spoiler]

>>73743564
Whenever you reply to someone replying to a post, you're automatically the author of the latter
It's the rule
>>73743576
Everlong

>>73743581
> DUDE IM A TORTURED ARTIST LMAO

what a tool

>>73743569
>Prove me wrong
Sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5ijtz6Du_s

>>73742123
ye

>>73743595
>bass riff is sort of similar?
>wow must have been a copy!!
Or maybe it's just coincidence because there's only a limited number of notes on a scale anyways and odds are something things will sound similar over a long enough period of time
>>73743652
Sounds good summer friend!

Why is this thread every 8 hours now?

>>73743595
The riff is the same but the songs are completely different. Anyone who calls it a rip off is ignorant to the fact that musicians borrow from each other all the time.

>>73743662
>>73743569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqn862-Atkk

>>73743672
You're bad at detecting facetiousness

>>73741738
>daily nirvana thread
Should there just be a general at this point? Whats with everyone wanting to talk about this band everyday but no other rock bands?

>>73743700
>dat damage control

>>73743652
Everlong is definitely a good song. Thanks newfriend!

>>73743692
>>73743662
>>73743569
*blocks your song*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7B-AlKTdGQ

>>73743712
Im able to admit they have one decent song, newfriend

It's weird to come back to /mu/ after spending time on a nice board and seeing the weird musical elitism, contrarianism, and one-ups-manship from an outsider perspective.
Like I would be embarrassed to type some of the stuff I am seeing here.

>>73743672
Defensive lol.
Im just saying its pretty similar, and both kurt and buzz liked the pixies. Im not even saying that their being influenced and copying or really sampling the bass is a completely bad thing. Again, Its why i said it was sampled.

Kurt sampled the riff for come as you are from that "eighties" song so its not far fetched to think he did so again for "milk it" and since buzz is a fan of pixies too he either also sampled bone machines bass or it seeped into his subconscious and he crafted a riff similar to it.

And yea coincidences happen sure but im just looking at the odds. Two guys who like the same band both have songs with bass riffs that sound similar to a riff from the band they both like.

>>73743701
>but no other rock bands?
>>73743711
>>73742673
>>73743331
>>73741972
>>73743615
>>73741993
>>73741942
>>73743635
>>73737667
>>73743553
>>73743519
>>73741171
>>73741431
>>73742149
>>73721780

You are not smart

>>73743767
>Kurt sampled the riff for come as you are from that "eighties" song
This is disinformation. Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaDbMZlN2Pg

Learn to play an instrument. Once you do and you start writing songs, you'll find out how easy this is.

>>73743680
Agreed, i wanna clarify Im not saying anyone ripped anyone off, copy( as far as the bass goes) maybe, BUT i think saying it was sampled is a better way of putting it.

>>73743862
>BUT i think saying it was sampled is a better way of putting it.
It wouldn't, because that's not what a sample is you tard

>>73741976
nirvana copied Pixies quiet/loud/quiet dynamic, kurt admitted copying pixies when he made nevermind. On bleach theres a clear Melvin's influence heard in the sludgy riffs and vocal delivery on a lot of their songs. On in utero its clear flipper/REM/steve albini were a clear influence.

>>73743896
>nirvana used dynamics! They must have copied!
kek dynamics has been sued in rock music for over 50 years. Listen to more music pleb

>>73743932
>sued
*used

Also
>REM/steve albini
No you are just throwing everything you read into wikipedia into one sentence, whether it makes sense or not

>>73743168
Fuck you now Im hungry.

>>73742077
nirvana isnt a band that deserves a daily thread

>>73744013
The last culturally relevant rock band doesn't deserve daily discussion?
Get over yourself

>>73744013
yea, but grimes definitely needs 5 posts a day. fuck off.

>>73742186
>Only niggers and faggots hate Nirvana
really ironic considering kurt's personal view about sexuality, race and gender roles. You're the real faggot

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>>73744026
>The last culturally relevant rock band doesn't deserve daily discussion?

Kurt Cobain was dead and rotting by the time the last culturally relevant movement in rock music happened though.

>>73744055
>culturally relevant
To maybe a few soccer hooligans in Britberg, maybe

>>73741738
Of course, this is a great band, great energy mixed with well written song. It got that thing that makes a band over the other.
Incredible influence on my generation.

Too famous for this board

Really love all the summer newfags ITT saying what should not be discussed on /mu/

>>73743811
>>73743884
Shiet. Maybe "inspired by" is a better way of putting it as far as its shoved/milk it is concerned. I only say that because they both liked the pixies, and both have a similar riff in their songs.

It isnt "disinfo" to call come as you are's riff similar to eighties' riff. It sounds very much alike. And that link you provided, whats your point? It, along with eighties and come as you are all share a similar riff.

Im not even arguing against the idea of being inspired by other artists. Like one anon said artists are often inspired by others. Im just saying they sound alike, and if kurt was a fan of pixies or killing joke then why is it so outrageous to assume he was inspired by those songs and wanted to reuse and alter a riff he liked. Theres also the chance the riff seeped into his subconscious and he didnt realize what he was doing, then there are times where one has never heard a song before but made a similar riff by chance. It can happen, yea, i know.

You guys are very defensive and really hinder any form of discussion here. Its fucking lame.

>>73743077
Mcdonald's food gives me headaches

>>73742113
Yes they do Papercuts sounds like a Melvins song and so does Samurai Suicide/Anorexorcist while Help Me I'm Hungry and Come On Death and Mrs.Buttersworth both have that pixies/flipper sound. Has anyone listened to Fecal Matter it's really good.

>>73743073
this is a very simplistic and wrong way to look at nirvana's songs, almost none of them deal with them being authentic or being punk rock. Btw if you think this is deafening distortion dont listen to big black or lightning bolt

>>73744071
Nah Britpop was a pretty global phenomenon, though it did resonate the least in America.
That said, considering that I knew who Liam Gallagher and Jarvis Cocker were while growing up in rural Wisconsin does testify to it having cultural clout over here as well.

>>73743151
>and there are none that were influenced by Nirvana
literally most if not all post-grunge, most musicians nowadays would name him as a influence

>>73741738
Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were better.

>>73744179
Further proof that Oasis were more than just a one hit wonder in America

>>73743270
this is seriously the dumbest and most ill-informed thing i've ever heard. Btw dont "not an arguement" because im not willing to give an entire list of bands more influential and better than these two, you are sincerely a retard. Never post again

>>73744203
Imo you right. But i do quite like the Nirvanas.

>>73744118
>It isnt "disinfo" to call come as you are's riff similar to eighties' riff
Nice backpedling
>And that link you provided, whats your point
you can come to two conclusions:
1) to say Nirvana ripped of Killing Joke would be moot and irrelevant, since Killign Joke ripped the same thing off of The Damned.
-or-
2) They are playing a simple walking riff that shifts between G and Em, and since options are limited, the songs will invaribaly end up sounding "similar", but that is excusable because that's how Rock music works. We're talking about a genre founded on three chords: C F and G.
>Im not even arguing against the idea of being inspired by other artists.
If this was true, this would all be a non argument.
>You guys are very defensive
You want to know why? See idiots like >>73741916
>>73741969 >>73743151
etc

>>73744203
I thought Nirvana had more range and catchy with their songs, but both those bands are great too.

>>73743270
The Wipers and Chuck "I like to do that" Dingleberry checkmate

>>73744250
Chill man

>>73742473
FACT: more people relate to Migos' words than Kurt Cobain

Thus, Migos' are more successful as an artist than Kurt Cobain

>>73743569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DOur549lEQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg53n0PYqOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WWeq1J5aE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmLW0BVTCsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWb16GF-F84
better songs coming through

>>73744246
Oasis were definitely not a one hit wonder in America. Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova just ended up getting so ever-present here that they ended up eclipsing all the other hits that they had.

>>73744344
>implying
It's been over 20 years and at least once a day I hear or see someone referencing him it's eery nobody wants to admit it or say it but he's the king

>>73744272
>Nirvana has more range than Soundgarden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA9vLHZFrcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rs9UbqU5DU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEM-1kKcg7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-eSSTpWWcA

>>73743775
there aren't daily threads about liam gallagher or Oasis or Dopethrone or Sleep or Slowdive or sufjan stevens. Also except for Oasis these bands and artists are better than Nirvana and deserve daily threads

>>73744179
Oasis was literally only well known in britongland and in some parts of US. Their only well known song was Wonderwall.

>>73744392
oasis is better than Nirvana desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GCSUSwcDwg

>>73744344
>Migos
Literally who?
>>73744392
Nice backpedaling

>>73744446
>dat sloppy playing
kek the drumming is awful

>>73743943
>REM didn't have any influence in kurts music
Nirvanas acoustics songs remind me of REM and the "albino" sound is all over in utero, likely because he produced it. Very ape and radio friendly unit shifter sound like albini songs.

Kurt admitted using the pixies quiet/loud/quiet dynamic in their music. Literally said it out loud why are you acting like its not a big deal.

>>73744386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWNjQD7FNXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PL3HVCreWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDGO8RjJEg
Cobain has pretty crazy range both bands do desu

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>>73743581
He was a pussy and he killed himself

>>73744471
>Nirvanas acoustics songs remind me of REM
Why?

Don't forget that Nirvana influenced REM as well. I bet you weren't gonna bring that up, were ya?
>quiet/loud/quiet dynamic
See >>73743932
Dynamics don't belong to anyone. It is the measure between the quietest and loudest parts of a song.

>>73744433
>Oasis was literally only well known in britongland and in some parts of US. Their only well known song was Wonderwall.

Oasis was objectively the biggest rock band on the planet during the second half of the 90s. I never even liked them that much aside from a few early singles and album cuts, but you would know this if you weren't born in like 1999.

>>73744482
It's really sad his daughter seems to really miss him

>>73744579
>Oasis was objectively the biggest rock band on the planet during the second half of the 90s
>the UK is the whole planet
Stop

I'm mildly fond of Nirvana. Every one of their albums has a glaring problem that keeps it from being next-level:

Bleach - limited in scope/ambition
Nevermind - doesn't truly represent the spirit of their music, mainly in terms of the mix
In Utero - some of the songs just aren't that notable or pleasing
Unplugged - it's only a shadow of what Kurt's future direction could have been

People constantly debate which is their best album ("wait, maybe Bleach isn't their worst one after all!") because they keep hoping that through repeated scrutinizing of their limited discography, it'll reveal a masterpiece. The truth is that Nirvana was a decent band that didn't do anything first-tier. Kurt wasn't an exceptionally insightful or smart guy; he was above-average but not terribly far beyond that. People like him because they remind him of that one person everyone knew in high school—abrasive, had a refreshing counter-culture personality, tough to be around but just endearing enough that you could overlook it. But he wasn't special.

Nirvana would have probably had their reputation "ruined" after a few more albums by the increasing input of Dave Grohl and just general career momentum loss.

>>73744605
You'd know if you were there desu.

>>73744704
pleb

in utero is their magnum opus but relative to the other albums that came out in their "rule", its doesnt mean shit

>>73744723
I saw them on the American leg of the Be Here Now Tour

How about you?

>>73744729
Gee wiz Billy that's a funny way to spell Insecticide

>>73744452
replace Migos with literally any mumble rapper and it still holds true

>>73744762
No I mean I literally have no idea what Migos is

In contrast, fans if shitty mumble rap probably know who Nirvana is...

>>73744754
> a bunch of vaselines covers and pure sludge churns out of cobains shithole

ok

>>73744754
I love Incesticide but it's a bunch of b-sides, demos and radio sessions.

>>73744787
>not recognizing Mexican Seafood,Dive, Aerozeppelin, Hairspray Queen, Beeswax, and Big Long Now as masterpieces
PLEB

>>73744027
>but grimes definitely needs 5 posts a day
has nothing to do with what i said

>>73744026
>The last culturally relevant rock band doesn't deserve daily discussion?
white stripes, the strokes, there was a great garage rock and indie scene in the late 90s early 2000s

>>73744753
>I saw them on the American leg of the Be Here Now Tour

I was a bit too young to see them live at that point desu.
My brother wasn't though, he saw them on several dates on their first US tour back in '94, including the famous Chicago gig. He also owned every single thing they released up until Be Here Now.

>>73744814
It's great I wish they went in that same direction of noise pop and made an album besides Incesticide like that

>>73744452
>Nice backpedaling
not backpedaling in the original post that i made, i said why does there need to be a DAILY THREAD about nirvana, and the subsequent sentence about people talking about other bands meant "why do people want to talk about nirvana daily but not other bands". Wheres your reading comprehension mate

>>73744787
>Implying Aneurysm is anything but their magnum opus
Stop.

>>73744864
>He also owned every single thing they released up until Be Here Now.

Meaning all the singles, all the albums, quite a few bootlegs, miscellaneous shit like interview discs and promo copies etc.
I was there, man. I was in the shit with the grunts.

>>73744891
>tfw hearing Aneurysm for the first time
It sounds like you're winning in some crazy video game

>>73744905
>>73744891
>>73744847
hahahahahah
they dont even hold up a candle to all apologies famlamaanma

>>73744257
I understand similar songs or riffs happen because theres only so many different sounds that can be made by a guitar. Coincidences can happen. Thats fine.


Kurt and buzz liked the pixies and because kurt and buzz were friends, im just saying is it so crazy to think maybe kurt was inspired by its shoved? And is it so impossible to think maybe buzz was ispired by bone machine? Thats all.

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>>73744055
>culturally relevant
>oasis

>>73744944
Aye all Apologies is pretty good senpai but it doesn't hold a candle to Endless Nameless

Because they're entry level rock music

A lot of us were done with them before we even started browsing 4chan

>>73744969
They were pretty big in the British Isles as well as the European continent to some extent.

>>73743218
kek thanks for the show guys

>last global culturally relevant band
>not Muse
I don't even like them but you can't deny this.

>>73744969
See >>73744579

>>73743475
done in an acoustic style

>>73744988
>>73744944
>>73744905
>>73744891
>>73744729
>>73744847
>not Scentless Apprentice
Why do I even browse this plebeian board?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyxoQIQaogE

>>73745081
its very clearly sappy anon or moist vagina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zknlwXuGJUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkTklehHaDY

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>>73745081
>Scentless Apprentice
>Anything but the live Brasil version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpJWSPV4mck

>>73741738
Too popular, their biggest hits from Nevermind are unbearable except maybe Come As You Are, and everyone interested in their other material has already pirated their albums so no point in beating the death horse.

>>73744864
>I was a bit too young
Opinion discarded

Come back next time when you grow up a bit champ

>>73744888
They might have
See: You know You're Right
>>73744890
>"why do people want to talk about nirvana daily but not other bands"
Remind me again if I just showed you people do want to talk about other bands? Maybe you can explain?
>>73744945
>im just saying is it so crazy to think maybe kurt was inspired by its shoved?
No because Kurt didn't play bass on the song

>>73745342
this is a weird thing to be this defensive about

>>73745387
What do you mean?

>>73745342
>Come back next time when you grow up a bit champ

Dude I was listening to Suede B-sides while you were still getting off on Living Colour and Paula Abdul. Eat my ass.

>>73745489
>Eat my ass.
I bet you'd like that

>>73743028
but pink floyd does suck

>>73745500
It's a highly pleasant sensation, though I never had a guy do it for me before. I'll try anything once desu.

An alright band that got way too popular way too fast and for no good reason

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>>73745554
>and for no good reason

>>73745607
>2017
>still believing this meme
Hair metal was already dead by 1991.

>>73745637
I think U2 had more to do with the dead of glam than Nirvana.

>>73742113
kurt fully stole melvins riffs

>>73745342
You know you're right sounded very pop which is not bad it felt like power pop I really loved it however the songs off incesticde just have this very noisey unique charm to them that separate themselves as their own that and the rest of Cobain's early work. Did you ever get the chance to listen to Fecal Matter Cobain spits some pretty siqqqq shit.

>>73741738
>born in 1998
wew

nirvana are fine. they have some good songs, I never really felt strongly either way. I like noise rock, and kurt is a pretty good pop songwriter, but I don't feel like they perfected anything or brought anything new to the table, which makes their popularity kinda weird. but they weren't bad.

I suspect many people here had a nirvana phase, and out of projection/embarrassment feel the need to call them shit now that they have what they consider to be ""patrician"" taste

no point bringing melvins into the discussion at any point, they're just as bland

>>73745786
>it felt like power pop
I don't think you know what power pop is
>Did you ever get the chance to listen to Fecal Matter Cobain spits some pretty siqqqq shit.
Kinda garbage. I prefer the KAOS demos

>>73745637
That's not what I remembered

>t. someone older than 19

>>73745724
also this may be a coincidence but the riff on swans - property off cop sounds very similar to paper cuts

>>73745665
U2 and hair/glam metal had completely different audiences though. U2's audience largely consisted of people in their 20s, hair metal was music for teenagers.
Nirvana did kill by glam metal by co-opting all the underage kids who liked Motley Crue and Bon Jovi and getting them to like Nirvana and Alice In Chains instead.

>>73745976
Good point, I guess that's why most grunge is catered to teenagers.

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>people born in 1998 are old enough to post on /mu/, and everyone's okay with it
why even live

>>73744969
this

>>73741738
>Also born in 1998
>Got a sleeve tattoo of come as you are for 18th
I liked the evolution of their sound desu.
>Bleach is the raw sludgy album with minimal audio editing.
>Nevermind is the big ass blow out album with nearly all of their commercial songs on it, the mastering is tremendous and dave/krist find great ways to enhance the songs
>In utero is harking back to bleach era but with a more refined sound, all apologies automatically becomes one of my favourite written songs of all time.
/mu doesn't like them much because they can't stand the fact that someone who was technically inept on their instrument was phenomenally more successful then their band was basically.

>>73746184
>the mastering is tremendous
What do you mean?

>>73746239
Use of the double tracking vocals that butch vig encouraged both kurt and dave to do which added a nice harmonic side to some of the heavier rock tracks, leaving the guitar on open feedback after the solo in smells like teen spirit to give it a more overarching sound, kurt accidentally coming in to early on come as you are but steve left it in to break up the song more, etc, basically he encouraged kurt to try new things and left certain production errors in there which added to the songs, call them lucky mistakes if you want but without him mastering/producing the album it would sound noticeably different.

>>73741819
Kurt's death ended up making alternative flood the commercial market. Everybody wanted to make the next Nirvana. The reason it died was simply burnout and changing trends. Too much post-grunge flooded the market

Were you there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps317u9Rhl0

Do you remember?

>>73746408
Hey man, you put the wrong bush song in, don't worry I'll fix it for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ID&hl=id&v=pU6KhFWvKPM

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>>73741738
They were good, but lets be honest the true list of great grunge bands is more like;
>Mudhoney
>Soundgarden
>Nirvana
>AIC
>Temple of the dog
>Pearl Jam

[spoiler] I think pearl jam fucking suck though [/spoiler]

>>73746342
>Use of the double tracking vocals
But you just said mastering. Now you are talking about recording.

Which is it?

>call them lucky mistakes if you want but without him mastering
Butch Vig didn't master Nevermind.

>>73746545
I meant produce, He did produce it though anon

>But you just said mastering. Now you are talking about recording.
He doubled them up, he didn't record them twice, he fought resistance from the band in doing so, to me if he doubled up and didn't record them twice that comes under production to me and not recording ?

>>73746615
You really don't know anything about audio production, do you?

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>>73746694
Whatever nigga, I don't give a fuck, I like them, you probably don't and I'm sure no amount of me explaining why I like them will sway your opinion so I'm not gonna try anymore.

>>73746408
ye

>>73741810
Nevermind>In Utero/Unplugged>Bleach>Incesticide

>>73747515
How to spot a pleb.

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>>73746490

>>73747515
>>73747528
This is what every new Nirvana fan thinks, give him time he'll come around.

>>73746490
grunge is a fake genre

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>>73741738
Dave and Krist are fine, but Kurt was a whiny little faggot who should have killed himself sooner. His journal is literally vomit-inducing.

>>73748070
>no Siamese Dream

>>73748887
Maybe, but Kurt was the life of the band. After he killed himself, Dave made Foo Fighters....and well, I don't think I need to explain that mistake.