John Cale thread

Also Paris 1919 is the better than everything Lou Reed did

>>73740796
Lou Reed is better, but both of them have no talent

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>>73741271
> being this counter contrarian

>>73740780
Pre-velevet better than post-velvet

>>73741271
Bullshit

>>73741295
>being a rational non-contrarian is now contrarian
well shit
>>73741312
They've each only made a couple good songs, the rest is try hard "'"experimental""" """art""" rock garbage.

>>73741370
>They've each only made a couple good songs
Which ones in your opinion are their only good ones?
>the rest is try hard "'"experimental""" """art""" rock garbage
You obviously don't know about John Cale's music then if you think it's all rock. Also why is trying at music a negative aspect?

>>73741451
Lou Reed:
>Andy's Chest
>I'm Waiting for the Man
>Perfect Day
>Satellite of Love
>Sister Ray
>Sunday Morning
>Walk on the Wildside
John Cale:
>Sister Ray
>Sunday Morning
That's it

Whatever art term you want to apply to it, it doesn't matter. There's a difference between trying, which almost everyone does, versus trying extremely hard to make something """unique""" or """experimental""" that it just ends up being unlistenable tripe.

>>73741609
>just ends up being unlistenable tripe
And now we get to your point. Anything remotely abstract you despise

Learn to realise when something is a personal preference rather than objective fact

>>73741640
I listen to brutal death metal, I can handle listening to anything. I can tell what is actually good and well made from what is """""abstract""""" garbage. Go listen to field recordings, numale.

>>73741664
>this whole post
wew lad

>>73741664
Please tell me you aren't the person I've been arguing with and you're just making some kind of joke

>>73741609
I hope you understand that despite not having explicitly written all the songs on the two first TVU albums, John Cale still did most of the musical arrangements and was largly in charge of giving the albums their sound

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>>73741694
>>73741716
>cannot comprehend that other people don't want to put their nose up some """critically acclaimed""" artists' ass for 'cool kid' points

>>73741664
>brutal death metal
plebeian compositions

>>73741766
I guarantee you they couldn't even play them, let alone create good death metal.

>>73741764
literally and unironically 2deep4u
go back to your florida death metal kid. the grown-ups are talking

>>73741781
Literally and unironically too abrasive for you.
Go back to your babby's first noise/experimental band

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>>73741764
D-D-D-Damage Control

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>>73741801
>can't defend the fact that he pretends to like garbage music for attention from indieheads of all people

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>>73741694
>>73741716
>>73741766
Really seem to have struck a nerve here.
Was it the numale comment?

>>73741841
>anime image
another proof that all metal fans are literal children

>>73741841
I can defend it but you aren't putting forward any arguments at all apart from "BBBut I dont like it. Waaaa"
Also I wasn't specifically talking about The VU but also john cales pre-velvet music

>Death metal

>>73741859
>act retarded
>people respond accordingly
>ahAHAhAHA U gOt MAd diDn*T u? waS it Cuz i CAlled u aN ePIC /pol/ MAUYmy?
child please

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>>73741861
>he didn't watch Yu Yu Hakusho as a kid
Proof that all /mu/drones are underage kiddies

>>73741902
>he watched anime ever
do you also concider eating paste to be an essential part of childhood?

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>>73741870
>tries to act smug when he listens to the biggest pleb catcher of all /mu/
>>73741885
>child please
Back to tumblr with you, my anally ruptured friend.

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>>73741934
I would ask you since you're quite familiar with that age range right now.

>>73741940
>>tries to act smug when he listens to the biggest pleb catcher of all /mu/
>Listens to death metal
>Presents no arguments
>Proceeds to unload his vast folder of shit meme images as arguments
>Uses /pol/ buzzwords as arguments
>Already on the defensive by saying everyone must be """"""triggered"""""" or """""butthurt"""" because you totally redpilled us didn't you
Ever considered growing up kiddo?

>>73741859
brutal death metal and $L@MZ are possibly the worst genres known to man, OSDM, technical dm, etc. are better as well as every other genre of metal, even fucking djent is better than drop d power chord spam with double kicks and bass guitar rape

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>>73741990
>overuses greentext
>tries to paint the poster as a /pol/boogeyman
>same unoriginal talking points and """insults""" as every /mu/drone
Summer break must be a wild time for you right now, friend.

>>73742014
You just proved you can't handle death metal. This is why you latch on to lesser """inaccessible""" genres like artshit and atmoshit which have no actual substance because it is a part of your identity, and as we all know, you couldn't handle taking shit for being a metalhead like your average /mu/kiddie.
I guarantee you if these meme genres that /mu/ praises weren't """critically acclaimed""" you wouldn't be listening to them.

>>73742049
>continuing to post his shitty meme images
>strategic use of third person to make it seem as if you have an army of retards on your side
>still presents no actual musical argument as he is unwilling to talk about music on a music board
>believes in the summer meme (no.1 indicator of a newfag)

>>73742087
explain how bolt thrower, death, arghoslent, demilich, etc. are atmospheric

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>>73742095
>keeps demanding arguments when it has already been proved that he himself cannot defend his faux genres
>still spamming greentext and has no images due to it being his first month on this site
>doesn't believe in the summer meme to protect his redditor bros
What's it like going into highschool, are you gonna woo all the girls with your hipster clothes and superior taste in music?

>>73742158
Where are your actual arguments? Lay them out because at the moment you're just shitposting and it's not going to end if I just pick apart every one of your posts

>>73742106
You listen to the most entry level numale pleb catcher DM imaginable, you're even shilling for Arghoslent you fucking faggot stop doing that in the /metal/ threads. Demilich is the token catch-all "experimental" DM album that numales love to jerk off to. Come back when you have some non-cliche DM to talk about.

>>73742181
I already provided them, your music is garbage made for plebs who want to think they're elite by listening to music that is made to purposely not be musical with no substance or soul.

>>73742200
>your music is garbage made for plebs
No argument, just buzzword
>who want to think they're elite
No argument, just insult
>listening to music that is made to purposely not be musical
Why do you think that? What is your definition of musical? I personally think it's musical and I enjoy it
>no substance or soul
What is your definition of substance? What is your definition of soul? Why does music have to have "soul"? Does death metal have "soul"?

This whole thing stinks of autism.The inability to recognise what is personal opinion and what is debatable is a big indicator. You should get yourself checked out