/prod/ - Music Production General

Hey guys Ia m starting out and I am trying to decide between Ableton and pro tools.

Also wat program would u recommend me for mixing and mastering?

>>73721308
jfc are you drunk

ableton if it's electronic or midi based

pro tools for live instruments

If you wanna do more electronic stuff and do live performances then get Ableton. Also just learn how to mix and master with your stock plugins first. Learn as much as you can about mixing and mastering first before you buy

>>73721378
this post was meant to be a reply to >>73721308
but im fucking retarded

>>73721370
>reaper for live instruments
fixed
protools is a meme at this point

>>73721442
yeah reaper is fine if you don't ever plan to work professionally for anybody

there's no reason to not just learn the more common daw if it suits your needs and money isn't an issue

y does everyone and their mum love supersaws

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Hey giys i want to get into rwcording my guitar and i ak looking to invest in a pc. What should i be looking for? Does a laptop have any benefits? Thanks in advance.

>>73721529
>if you don't ever plan to work professionally for anybody
why?
because its the more common as you said?
fuck how can such an oldfashioned daw still be the standard one

https://clyp.it/sw1fwq5d

>>73721636
cuz flum xD

>>73721636
easy to make and sounds reasonably decent usually....

>>73721647
why do i feel like you're the first guy and this is an attempt at trolling.......

>>73721673
yes because it's that common and it's expected that you can work with it

it caught on and just became the standard. that's it. supposedly the comping tools in it are the best for live stuff so it makes sense

desu i think with the rise of bedroom producers and increasing numbers of kids that don't use it things will change... or it will at least be not assumed that you can work with it

>>73721707
i like a lot of your sounds but i don't like the song lol... nothing was catchy melodically or rhythmically

don't like the kick. i suggest adding movement to the hats with some automation to that delay/chorus or whatever you're using

my rendered and frozen stuff is glitching like it would playing in real time
life is hopeless

>>73722087
found its due to automation of fx on/off

surprisingly low interest into production, expected /mu/ to have more, or is this the wrong board?

anybody doing full orchestral only stuff here?

I am seriously torn between Ableton and Pro tools. which DAW are u guys using and why?

decided to have a go at the whole lofi house thing
https://clyp.it/k03sewgo
keep in mind it's only a part and i'm not sure how it's gonna start or end

>>73722617
nobody uses pro tools anymore these days except old farts that use it for mixing and mastering

what kind of music do you want to make

How do I get vocals like this? Is it really just pitching them down?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzZAHvq_UqI
(towards the end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-g41tw5Ic0
(beginning)

>>73722617
dubturbo because its the best daw

finally finished it /prod/

https://55chan.org/mu/src/1499106977862-0.ogg

this is (pseudo)mastered already

>>73723367
lows are kinda muddy with the vocals/bass but i think its good enough

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any good basic vsts you could recommend for atmoshit black metal?
i want to go for the caladan brood type of shit but have no idea where to start.
i plan to use guitar rig 5 for guitar so i basically need a vst for everything else.
also whats the easiest way to go around drums its easily the scariest and most off putting thing i can think about.

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>>73723549
what the fucking shit is this spooky shit moot i don't even have this pic on my pc

>>73723586

Somewhere on this site someone else is freaking out over the exact same thing, because both of your images were uploaded at the same time and got swapped over.

>>73723380
is it good enough guys? or is it shitty n muddy

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what having an expensive preamp between the mic and the interface does to the recorded sound

>>73724031

Frankly, nothing much. Your preamp will only improve the signal quality up until the point it reaches the sound card, and the sound card or interface always produces the most additional noise.

>>73722087
>>73722115
lol'd @ you

>>73722120
not the wrong board, just people in general aren't interested

/compoition/ (?) is what you're looking for i think. I only dabble with session strings in kontakt :p

>>73722702
>>73722617
>daw discussion
>le pro tools ux meme

>>73724031
depends if you can bypass the interface pres or not. i'm assuming you cannot since you're asking this question- don't bother

>>73724234
>the sound card or interface always produces the most additional noise.

that's only if you're using low tier shit that you can't bypass

>>73724295
>depends if you can bypass the interface pres or not. i'm assuming you cannot since you're asking this question- don't bother
i dont have an interface at all lol just wondering if preamps change the sound besides boosting some frequencies

>>73724429
>besides boosting some frequencies

it's more complicated than that. you can't take something from a low end pre and boost/cut to match a high end one to make it sound the same (you can't boost what isn't there (detail))

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Hey /prod/ it's been a while, how's work?

>>73724855
>work
fucking normie

>>73724890
I'm refering to your work on music silly

newbie here. Is there anyway to play a guitar directly through my computer using a p10 to p2 cable? I tried it and got nothing

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>>73722617
I use Pro Tools for mixing and mastering, but I also work at a recording studio so it's pretty essential for me to use Pro Tools. It's expensive and tough to find a torrent for (depending on which OS you use). I would suggest just torrenting ableton and seeing if it works for you. Also, Pro Tools has a limited free version called Pro Tools First you can check out to see if you like it.

>>73724548
ah so its like a cheap pre will decrease the sound quality
and interfaces' soundprocessing part are pres. so when using a good pre you turn the interface's pre off
and there will be no quality decrease caused by the cheap interface because only the pre can do that

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https://clyp.it/g104fjl1

What do you think? I quite like it so far but I may have shit taste.

>>73725168
I'm not him but what you would want is an interface that has a line-in. You would go out of the line-out of your preamp, into the line-in of your interface, which would bypass the preamps of the interface. Going out of a preamp into another preamp won't sound great, even if they're both high end preamps. But yeah the fact that it's a cheapo interface preamp is even worse.

The quality will still be affected by the digital conversion of the interface, which won't be as good as a higher end interface. But that sound difference is less noticeable than the difference between good and bad preamps.

>tfw you will never make top edm without buchla mod synth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YQBkcLVoIg

is there some magic trick to make synth sound more lo-fi?


https://clyp.it/d5opxwbc is the best I could come up with after tweo hours of tweaking

>>73725542
Try a tape emulator and turn up the warble/wow and flutter if you're going for a kind of detuned fucked up tape sound

>>73725542
>>73725577
Don't be a pleb and buy a 4 track

>>73725861
Stuff is so lofi now he might as well use any tapedeck with record.

So, I bought an Akai LPK-25, want to try my hand at making some sort of drum and bass, EDM stuff. Any other peeps tried it, and is it any good?

>>73725886
Pretty much. As long as it uses analog tape it'll do

>>73723113
You pitch-shift and modulate them

Hey /prod/ how's this sound?

https://clyp.it/qzxmaaez

>>73723367
anyone criticism pls

>>73726615
Why can't I ever get clyps to load?

>>73723586
That's Thom Yorke

>>73726708
i was wondering that too. All else fails goto the site i guess

>>73726708
it works for me

>>73726615
I like the rhythm, lead / melody is shit desu

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Should I get the Philips SHP9500 or AKG K240? Or are there any other good, well balanced, open-ear headphones I should get instead for under $100?

this might not be the right place to ask, but idk where else to ask

Anyone here use Renoise? Someone suggested it on /g/

>>73727134
Yeah I'm working that out.

>>73727244
oh hi again.

>>73725223
>https://clyp.it/g104fjl1
godawful

>>73721781
I wasnt trolling asshole.

>>73726615
the melody is pretty awful, and personally I'm not a fan of the chord progression, especially the jump from the low A to the high G. I think learning a little bit of music theory would really help you out a lot instead of just trying to sound it out

>>73727463
im just messing around to see what I can do right now. I'm VERY limited. Being on a mac and only used FL really doesn't help my case

how hard is it to use a drum machine like that
https://youtu.be/jtiMopEen0U
hes switching stuff fast

>>73727503
sounds like excuses my dude

>>73727732
not for the notes, just for the synth is all. I'll try to work with it and make it better

>>73727765
Blaming the synth is a pretty feeble excuse

How's this sounding /prod/?

https://clyp.it/user/kqxwhm1p

>>73727953
No no, I'm saying from what the other anon said (unless that's you), saying the synth sucked I take it?
I'll work with the melody and see what I can make.

https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/i-will-survive-cover

>>73728007
It just sounds all over the place, like it sounds very sporadic and not really gelling together nicely

I play guitar and want to make my own backing tracks/vamps and I have Ableton Live, but haven't learned how to use it yet. I messed around with FL Studio a long time ago and was always put off but not being able to get a drum kit that sounded like real drums, they were all to synth-y. Before I commit the time to learn Ableton, will I be able to produce tracks that sound close to real instruments? Do I have to find samples of drums to get this?

>>73728489
Superior Drummer, Kontakt drums

>>73728502
Cool, thanks.
So if I add bass guitar and maybe keyboard to make a track, I'd use one of those then import a sound file into Ableton?

>>73728596
it's a virtual instrument that you control with MIDI either by using a MIDI keyboard or by manually writing in MIDI with your mouse. The plugins also have preset rhythms so that you can drag and drop the MIDI information for the rhythm onto the track

>>73728664
But it runs seperately, it's not like an add-on drum kit that loads inside Ableton, right?
If that's right then I was asking if first making the drum track with either of those, saving and importing that as a sound file into Ableton, then layering the bass and/or keyboards is the right way to do it.

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https://clyp.it/sinoypxd

Working on some breaks. Thoughts?

>>73728778
if you have suite there is a pack called session drums that is ok

>>73728778
It's a plugin that loads inside ableton

>>73728845
Great, that makes it a lot eaiser.

>>73728818
I don't have it installed right now, I'll check those out when I start.

Thanks /prod/.

>>73721647
is this pic supposed to be a parody of how stupid holocaust deniers are?

guys I'm going to buy a midi keyboard with arturia 2 thingy, any help? tutorials? is it worth it?

I have Korg Volca Bass. What's some good hardware I can pair it with?

I did it guys, I took the plunge into the deep dark abyss of modular synthesizers. Goodbye world!

>>73730658
rest in rip

>>73725079
I alreayd have both installed on ym PC, and torrenting protools and other music making software is easy.


https://vstorrent.ru
http://vsthouse.ru

>>73728489
Try Addictive drums.

you cna thank em later.

>>73730839
>depending on which OS you use

Also the pop ups on that site are ridiculous . Does the site have more than rutracker or audionews.org?

>>73730658
post modular grid

>>73730937

Just started it last week. Tell me what you think.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/460652

>>73731041
>copying Aphex Twin

>>73731091

I know, i'm just kidding

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I am looking for some companies that make good commercial sample packs which are easy to find on public torrent trackers. I am mainly into house and techno music.

I tried pic related based on a suggestion from a previous thread but my issue is that there were too many ready made loops and sound effects and not enough one-shot drum samples. Only ended up keeping like 10% of the 3.5 odd gigs that I downloaded.

>>73731517
>Only ended up keeping like 10% of the 3.5 odd gigs that I downloaded.
thats just how it is

>>73721673
>fuck how can such an oldfashioned daw still be the standard one

kiketools is better for recording and comping multiple takes which benefits a lot of vocalists and musicians.

>>73721308
if you like composing midi then get ableton. if you sing and play an instrument and you splice a lot of audio tracks then get kiketools. if you want something in between then get cubace.

either way they are all great DAWs because you dont have to switch computer platforms. if you pirate then just get both and try them out for yourselves.

personally i use ableton.

>>73731593
knowing that i am pretty much going to be stuck with piles of dogshit that have a few usable sounds in there can you suggest something for me to fetch?

>>73732118
i always trim down every pack i download just go on rutracker and see if anything there you want

>>73720739
Honestly dude I feel like I learned everything I know about production from the Bad Rats OST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnRBxEONAA

Why does no one ever talk about what a masterpiece this is? Before we continue: I am entirely serious.

The Bad Rats OST has something for everyone, with its influences drawing heavenly from folk, traditional jazz, funk, to modern AND classical rock music, and even prog. If none of that appeals to you, the sheer quality of the performance of those involved and the muses and melodies included in this 21 minute masterpiece will leave you speechless.

Packing such a myriad of emotions into a 21:00 minute run time while simultaneously blending so many genres is nothing to sneeze at.

I have never had a musical experience bring me to the range of highs and lows that this album has brought to me. I challenge you to give this a listen and tell me it didn't change everything you thought you knew about music as a whole.

>>73732168
is bad rats 2 good

>>73720739
Does anyone know where I can find more videos like these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNOIcD86qas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAI_IbIUG3k

I've done my homework and checked out many of the resources in the OP, but I would love to see more videos of people who really know what they're doing meticulously explaining the something they've produced.

>>73732168
oh thank god, i googled it and you're just trying to force a pasta

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>find good song to sample
>go to whosampled
>"This track was sampled in 15 songs"

>>73733561
that means you have an ability to clock the potential of a sample if its already been used to good effect and you're not just sampling random garbage

>>73733633
the exact part I was about to loop along with the stutter I had planned had already been done. I'm not mad, just disappointed.

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>>73733132
Matthew Weiss for general mixing, how to eq and compression

how do you fags make money off this shit

>>73733730
you dont

>>73733730
>>73733745
you do, if you do it right

>>73730658
I recently started my Eurorack module set up. I'm going the DIY route to save a bit of money, but fuck it's addictive

Practicing making melodies, how does this sound?

https://clyp.it/zasxqo4o

>>73720739
How do you train your ears to recognize different frequencies? Im trying to get better at EQing, so I can stray away from using the presets

>>73734215
Try out the Golden Ears ear training series