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ctrl+f = no grimes thread... wtf
Let's talk about the best artist of this decade aka Grimey aka Claire Boucher.
Remember: Be nice to Grimes :)
Recent Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgfyDlaacz4
Old thread: >>73658149
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Grimes is not a very good artist. Hides her mediocre songwriting and voice under several "eerie" layers of amateurish bleepity-bloops.
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fucking disgusting bulimic ogre rugrat troll
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STAR POWER
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I am Mark E Smith
I got the paperwork to prove it
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>>73682238
Ill take your word for it
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>>73682089
Grimes is the artist of the decade. Fact.

>>73682114
>Hides her mediocre songwriting and voice under several "eerie" layers of amateurish bleepity-bloops.
>being this pleb
Lame criticism. Her melodies are extremely well made and not hidden behind "several "eerie" layers of amateurish bleepity-bloops". They're in foreground, smashing your face with their power. I don't know what Grimes did you listen to, but it certainly wasn't Claire Boucher if you say such false things.

Her songwriting is top notch; did you even hear her songs like Realiti, Oblivion, Flash Without Blood or Genesis? How could you deny the greatness of such songs that pack so much melody and emotion?
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>>73679294
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>>73682350
>being this pleb
For the thousandth time, quit with the kindergarten insults. It completely undermines the point you are trying to make.
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thoughts?
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Will her next album sound more like Geidi Primes?
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>>73682732
I highly doubt that she will ever make Geidi Primes Part 2. Her songwriting, producing and singing are much sharper now; her music is also more accessible and less obfuscated. If I'd have to bet the sound of her next album, I put my money on a mix between Halfaxa, Visions and Art Angels plus MANY unexpected new ideas. She will find a way to surprise her fans.

Grimes said that she plans to go back to a more chill sound after the wild Art Angels:
>“I’m really vibing on making something really slow and gorgeous that just breathes, and has room to breathe. I feel like my work has always been fast paced, kinetic, and almost just manic and I feel like for me the hardest thing I can do is make something that’s slow and heavy. I’m so ADD in my work; I really want to push myself into something that would be slower and more reflective.”
http://vmagazine.com/article/v104-grimes-interview/

Now imagine something like Halfaxa but with Art Angels production values with and many completely new ideas. That would be interesting to say the least.
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>>73682926
mangled and smelly
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>>73682926
Heavenly.
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>>73682413
what even is reality?
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>>73683129
REALiTi is a Grimes song, plain and simple. You may want to check this pop masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XKLqGqwLA
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>>73683129
it's her best song
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>>73683129
>>73683172
>>73683354

I find it really hard to pick a "best song" from Grimes because I find there are different thing I like about her different songs. To me she's made quite a few that I really like. Although some of her stuff just isn't for me and others love it. The mark of a true artist.

Which for 2017 is pretty amazing. Nobody does that anymore.
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ITT: triggered snowflakes
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>>73683437
She did many great songs. If she would release a Best Of now, it would be almost impossible to shrink it down to 14-16 tracks.
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>>73683483
Triggered? People are fairly clam here. Don't try to bring drama here, buddy.
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who's hyped for her next album?
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>>73683519
see >>73682936 >>73683126
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>>73683519
*calm
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>>73683526
This is a Grimes thread, not a Bjork thread. Behave.
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>>73682350
grimes is shit now fuck off
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>>73683585
I think Kiss and Foo Fighters are shit, but you don't see me raiding your favourite bands threads and crying about it...
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>>73683660
>implying their foofighterfags and kissfags on /mu/
kys, waifufag
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>>73683583
I DON'T BEHAVE
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>>73683585
>>73683680
go away, shitposter
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>>73683680
Wow, stop shitposting for a minute and learn the difference between their, there, and they're...

Come back once you've achieved a grade three education. Holy fuck.
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>>73683526
Most definitely me:

>“What’s weird about what I do is that I started as a visual artist. Until recently I was a visual artist first, and music was still really new to me and something I was pretty uncomfortable with. But in the past year or two I’d say that music is primarily what I do.”
>“When I was making these sounds I was trying to make stuff that I would actually use. They don’t sound like anything I’ve made before, but they have vibes I’d be curious about.”
>There is Stalingrad, an ominous bass that evokes an orchestra playing on the sidelines of the horrific battle. There’s Ocarina of Thyme, a delicate synth inspired by the Legend of Zelda. Talking Dog Bass reminds Grimes of Q, her dog. She wants producers to explore her sounds on BLOCKS. But she will be one of the main users of her own soundpack as she works on her newest projects.
“I wanted to make things that were 3D and felt really good. My first three albums were very digital, and my last album was really guitar heavy because I thought, ‘Oh man, it would be great to play a real instrument in real life.’ But now that I understand production a lot better, I’m in to a whole new world of synthesis, I guess.”
>“Experimental” is another of the labels that is ascribed to Grimes’s work. It’s as imperfect as pop, in that few experimental musicians sell millions of records and headline festivals around the world. But when you see Grimes at work, it fits. She is a young, self-taught artist who experiments with new sounds and new technologies. She wants to push forward to something new. Nothing is set, and everything is changing — indeed each new work rejects attempts to categorize her.
>The thrill of truly experimental music — for both the artist and the fans — is that no one quite knows what is coming next.
https://roli.com/stories/grimes-electromagnetic-pulse
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>>73683526
who dat
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>>73684075
A very old lady who used to be relevant to about 17 people.

21 November 1965 (age 51)
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>>73684075
This is what she looks like now. Her "fan base" uses pictures from 30 fucking years ago.
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Daily reminder that kate bush and björk are the past, Grimes is the present and the future.
they're equally great artists tho
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look at this >>73683585 badass dumbass saying crap
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>>73684203
her fanbase is aging too.

* a moment to think about your own mortality *
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>>73683897
Interesting

>no one quite knows what is coming next.
Especially true when it comes to Claire.
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Grimes is the best electropop artist of this decade.
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>>73685144
Of course
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>>73684498
>Especially true when it comes to Claire.
Yeah. IMO people tend to overlook that aspect of artists when it comes to deciding who is "experimental" or not. Grimes is faaaaaar from the most experimental artist currently making music in terms of pure sonics (there's LOTS of weirder, much less tasteful/edgier sounding shit out there than what she produces.) What's most experimental about her music is the way she goes about combining things that nobody else ever thinks to combine in ways that actually work - almost all the time.
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>>73682089
i wish claire elise boucher was my gf
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>>73688200
No, no you don't. As much as I like her music, attitude and style. I'd never date her. Friend zone for sure. It would be much better that way.

Just my opinion though. Who knows, you might be her perfect match, but I doubt it.
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>>73687577
>Grimes is faaaaaar from the most experimental artist currently making music in terms of pure sonics
True. But most experimental stuff is crap and devoid of melody and anything relatable to humans. To mix experimental elements into pop music is hard to do properly. Grimes succeeded where others failed. There are weird things in her music but they're compensated by some very rich melodies.
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What does /Grimes/ think of the first ever Grimes thread on /mu/?

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/25409916/
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>>73690558
/mu/ was so rude to her then. Things changed quite a lot. Sure, there are haters even now, but they're powerless. It seems that Grimes gets more and more respect with each passing year.
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>>73690558
Funny how some anons were really triggered by her look.
>this. she is so fucking weird looking. not even that shes ugly, she just looks like a alien in human form

Also this:
>Just think, in maybe half a year or so we'll have our very own "claireanon :3"
That dude knew something. I wonder if he still posts here.

BTW, just how much crap has been written about her during the years on these doomed boards? It must be a huge amount.
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>>73691334
>powerless autist writing shit
Are you mad, sweetie?
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>>73690851
Were you around during 2012?
>>73691043
>It must be a huge amount.
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/search/subject/grimes/order/asc/
Pages upon pages.

I've been told that there have been /Grimes/ generals since Visions.
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>>73692464
>Were you around during 2012?
No.
>I've been told that there have been /Grimes/ generals since Visions.
I read some old threads. They were much weaker than the newer ones. They were basically a platform for haters and waifufags to disparage her and there was almost zero music discussion.
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grimes confirmed to be the one spamming this board
>>73691636
>>73692492
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>>73692562
>I've been told that there have been /Grimes/ generals since Visions.
i started browsing this board in 2012. grimes generals didn't start until after art angels came out.
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>>73692803
I always blamed James, post the fucking HQ instrumentals Claire or I'll kill James and Hana.
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>>73692803
>>73692862
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>>73692981
go to bed grimes
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>being nice to Grimes
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>>73682089
>you will never walk your dogs with Grimes
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>>73682114
This just seems like the sort of criticism someone would give when they make similar music and have yet to find a comparable level of recognition and/or success.
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>>73682350
go to bed grimes
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>>73693682
yeah
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>>73688598
>But most experimental stuff is crap and devoid of melody
Why do you always only ever repeat back, in summary form, whatever I say in posts like this >>73687577 rather than go on to contribute something meaningful to the conversation stemming from what I said?
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>>73692803
Yeah... no. Grimes' first language is English...
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>>73694771
was that person speaking poor english?
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i am grimes, fuckers. be nice to me
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>>73695280
go to bed grimes
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>>73695358
no u
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>>73694906
See >>73682350 for a prime, additional example.
- Archaic/clunky sentence structures
- Highly unusual word orderings
- Uses active verbs/verb phrases interchangeably with reactive verbs/verb phrases
- Tends to omit articles like "the" in strange places only to include them/other commonly understood in context words in other, even stranger places
- Contractions between the subjects and verbs in sentences
- Frequent misuse of prepositions - especially when attempting to repeat colloqial English phrases

All tell-tale sings of a person whose native language isn't English.


t. Former Linguistics Student
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>>73695900
>almost zero music discussion
>>73682350
>>73682847
>>73683172
>>73683354
>>73683437
>>73683497
>>73683897
>>73687577
>>73688598
please
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anyone here like Grimes for her music, but are turned off by the autistic cesspool her fans create?
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>>73695739
oh yeah well that guy you quoted definitely isn't grimes, just some mentally unstable loon
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>>73696251
>but are turned off by the autistic cesspool her fans create?
no
why would someone even care?
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Grimes music allows me to feel my feelings.
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>>73682089
claire is a good girl
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>>73696422
i surely am !!!!! <3 <3
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>>73696251
>but are turned off by the autistic cesspool her fans create?
No, because I'm not fourteen.

>>73696268
>just some mentally unstable loon
Perhaps. This is 4chan, after all.
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>>73696502
timestamp
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>>73696502
hi grims
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>>73696502
timestamp or gtfo
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>>73696502
timestamp or you are a druggo
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>>73682089
I ctrl+f and I found this thread, so you're wrong.
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Kill V. Maim video is cringe as fuck

and she has pleb-tier tattoo s
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>>73697177
oh, really?
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>>73696268
>irony
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I love claire boucher she's very special to me
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Grimes is my life
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Just stumbled on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmX0eJ4qQCE
> like Cocteau Twins performing a musical version of Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein in a concrete parking garage.
http://fullspectrum.nl/meet-stahlr/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyIzhG3zGcU
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>>73696422
Is she?
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Someone prove to me that it isn't the same 2 or 3 fags making these threads worshipping this bitch ever since Art Angels came out. That album is fucking old. Can we all just acknowledge that her next project will either A: not live up to the hype it will get in some way or B: become a major sellout radio pop fiesta even moreso than Art Angels.

I mean jesus, spoiler alert you will never suck your queens toes and she will never take a shit in your mouth. Take your disgusting fap circle elsewhere you fucking animals. These threads are cancer and unoriginal.
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>>73697930
>since Art Angels came out
huh
you're new
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>>73697930
It's true ive loved her for a long time, i just don't understand why. These threads make feel like a complete fool
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>>73697930
>Someone prove to me that it isn't the same 2 or 3 fags
do you want us to post ips?
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>>73697930
>These threads are cancer and unoriginal.
then just don't go here. we are fine with them
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>>73697930
Can you just acknowledge that you just hate her, and shitpost in this thread?
We love her because her music is amazing
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>>73697989
I know you're fine with just how things are, some aren't at all. They're attached to something that made them happy but it's not the same at all anymore. But you're comfortable, i know
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>>73698034
>theres a thread you dont like about an artist you dont like
>you open it to make posts about how much you dislike it
isnt it the most useless waste of time ever possible?
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Has grimes ever been abandoned by family or friends?
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>>73698080
This has been the biggest waste of my time that ive ever had, its just made completely miserable
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>>73697961
No its a fucking fact that no one made daily grimes threads worshipping her until Art Angels came out. It has been like this ever since that album even though she has yet to release new shit. I can understand if there were some new info on her next project or if she just dropped a new album but its just the same people fapping over the same songs going on almost 2 years now.

These threads are a circle jerk excuse to post pictures of her and fap knowing there are other neckbeards out there thinking of the same edgy girl you are as they lift their belly fat to touch their sissy dick. If what I have said triggers you then please quit because you are part of the problem.

Pressing ctrl f and not finding a grimes thread is a beautiful beautiful thing. But then again we still have three fucking kpop threads right now. At least you faggots only have one broad to worship.
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>>73698080
I never said i dislike grimes, your not getting the point or really your own desire is talk shit. You're comfortable doing that though, that's what im talking about. I dont want to emotionally surpress myself and talk shit with you, and derange myself any further. Im not doing this anymore
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>>73698170
Does anyone know how these threads started? What was motivating people? This honestly hasn't been as fun ever since someone decided she deserved her own general and needed to push everyone out
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>>73698170
>No its a fucking fact that no one made daily grimes threads worshipping her until Art Angels came out
that's literally not true
are you actually that new or just intentionally spreading lies?
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>>73698384
When are people in these threads not spreading lies?
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>>73698384
How long have you been here?
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Queen of gay pop
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>>73698494
Fuck you
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>>73698494
Anon, if you are into that kind of music and you like Grimes then it doesn't necessarily mean any music you like is gay pop.
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>>73698540
Calm down.
It was a joke.
Jeez.
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Btw Art Angels is her best work.
Fuck Halfaxa.
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>>73698557
Shut up
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>>73698384
You must have signed up for a /mu/ account the day Art Angels dropped newfriend.

No one on this board paid her any mind until that album woke everyone up to the fact she exists. And goddamnit I wish she stopped making music a long time ago just so cancerous white knights like you would go crawl back to mama reddit where you belong.
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>>73697930
>Can we all just acknowledge that her next project will either A: not live up to the hype it will get in some way or B: become a major sellout radio pop fiesta even moreso than Art Angels.
No, because >>73683897
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lol at thinking Grimes will be irrelevant or sell out
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>>73698170
>its just the same people
Sorry, anon, but not everyone here now even knew who Grimes was two years ago. I am a post-Art Angels fan. Her material is pretty new to me.

> the same songs going on almost 2 years now.
The Beatles haven't released new music in over 45 years, and look what we have here - >>73692008
Less than a day old, too.
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>>73698702
Who did she sell out the most?
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>>73698621
>being this new and retarded
she got popular in 2012 when Visions got released, that album was about as big as Art Angels, there were daily threads about her
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>>73698349
>What was motivating people?
Honest admiration for her music. As far as I can tell, prior to the great influx of FOGs like myself early last year, the vast majority of Grimes-related activity on /mu was nothing more than ironic shitposting and trolling.
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>>73698759
what is wrong with you
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>>73698759
I just love her is all, that's all that keeps me here
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>>73698621
see
>>73698719
and
>>73698759
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>>73698720
>'selling out' OTHER people
Anon, that doesn't make any sense.
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>>73698801
It's called enjoying music, anon. You should try it some time.
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>>73698915
Real people
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>>73698926
I dont really listen to music anymore or do anything
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>>73698998
Then what the hell are you doing on a music discussion board?
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>>73699016
I dont know anon
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grims
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i hope our grimey is sleeping well
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Grimes is who she is, not who you want her to be.
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Death Grips >>> Grimes
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>>73699498
b8
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>>73699479
What do you mean?
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>>73699479
You won't even tell me
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Who did it better?

>>73699093
i hope she has a productive day
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>>73699479
>>73699518
>>73699542
What anon means is Grimes is the artist of the decade. Period.
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>>73699857
I almost looked like they had something important to say
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>>73699878
Ikr? It's like telling us water is wet.
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>>73699897
Douche
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>>73699833
I hope she cries today
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>>73700036
She says she makes better music when she's had a bad day, so both are possible.
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>>73700036
you only like her when you think she's looking sad
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GEIDI PRIMES IS THE BEST GRIMES ALBUM
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>>73700042
I hope she gets sad and hurts herself
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>>73700690
mean
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>>73700749
Shes ugly and annoying
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Our Grimey is a hard worker. She makes a song per day.

http://www.thefader.com/2017/06/30/grimes-roli-soundpack-new-music-interview

Has that back-and-forth helped develop the sound?

I'm in the zone of just throwing things at a wall. I'm trying to be unlimited by “this is sound of the album” or something. I'm trying to do the craziest shit I can, or just reach outside my comfort zone. I've been doing a song a day kind of thing. Like, get as far as I can on a song per day then start a new thing. Then once I have a various amount of things, then I'll go back and decide what to do with it.

Is anything sticking?

I think things are sticking, but I don't want to say much more. I read that, on YouTube, let's say you watch half of a video, it doesn't count as a full view. You need another person to watch another half of the video for it to count as a whole view. And, I kinda feel like the way I'm working right now, I'm not getting into a full YouTube view, like per song. I'll get 20 percent or 30 percent or 40 percent on a song. So, in theory, there's a lot of started material, but in terms of things that get past the 80 percent mark, it's a lesser number.
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>>73695739
>reactive verbs/verb phrases
What the hell is this stuff? A simple "reactive verbs" english search brings this thread on the first page.
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>>73696268
The irony is strong in you. Projecting much, autist?
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>>73698170
Literally ITT: >>73690558

Someone posted a link to a thread from June 2012. Where is your god now?
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>>73690558
>june
Visions was released in january
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>>73698621
>No one on this board paid her any mind until that album woke everyone up to the fact she exists.
Seriously? Check the archives, you triggered dumbass.
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>>73700945
That wasn't the first Grimes thread. I bet was was discussed even in 2010, but very few people knew about her.
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>>73698723
This. Visions has even more rating than Art Angels on RYM. That was her breakthrough; AA was a continuation of that success.
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>>73698915
Is this a joke?
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>>73700820
>ywn watch how Claire tries to sing a perfect vocal part doing a hundreds of takes next to you
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>>73695280
Really? Do you have any Trojan malware for me?
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>>73701334
sure just don't forget i used to be a hacker 4 some time
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>>73700761
Sounds like stark denial anon. Just let it out, post a silly grimz or even a song link.
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Is it just me or did grimes make this place a whole lot worse?
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grimes is the best
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I've taken better looking shits than her
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>>73698384
I've been posting here since 2012 and grimes generals weren't a thing until a year and a half ago. if you're going to be an uninformed newfag, at least don't try to talk about things you don't know about.
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>>73701390
this board can't get any worse anyway
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>>73701390
Just you desu
>>73701399
This. Dubs confirms.
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>>73698384
>The Grimesfags have resorted to false propaganda to justify their degeneracy
The scary part is that while this anon knows this isn't true, he probably still believes that it is. The cognitive dissonance in these threads is deeply disturbing.
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>>73701390
This place was already worse. In fact it made it better: lots of trolls wer banned in these threads and hopefully that taught them a lesson.
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>>73701510
Stop pretending you've been posting here since 2012. The archive contradicts your claims. e.g. https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/25409916/

Maybe those threads weren't named /grimes/, but they were still general Grimes threads.
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>>73701553
I wish it never happened
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>>73701550
Stop the bullshit machine. Grimes is posted on /mu/ for years. /mu/ used to hate her much more before, but slowly things changed: now she's a respected, even feared, artist.
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>>73701580
>Maybe those threads weren't named /grimes/
That's exactly my point. There's a huge difference between an occasional thread talking about a musician and a regular general (e.g. /metal/ /bleep/ /Kpop/). Of course there was a thread about her every once in a while before AA. That can be said about literally any musician. The enormous glaring difference is the frequency and the officiality of /grimes/ general which DID NOT start until a year and a half ago.

Your link to one outlying thread about grimes doesn't prove shit.
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>>73701641
>Grimes is posted on /mu/ for years.
For fucks sake take one of the 9-10 hours a day that you spend posting on this board and dedicate it to learning how to speak English
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>>73701700
Suck my English, grammar nazi
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>>73701700
By the way:

>For fucks sake
Look who's talking: it should be "For fucks' sake". If you criticize someone at least be sure there aren't mistakes in your sentences.
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>>73701373
What is even likable about this girl
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>>73701741
Holy fuck you are all nerds
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>>73701762
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/73640047/#q73648277
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>>73701741
If you're going to criticize my punctuation there were a lot more mistakes than just that in my post. I obviously don't give a shit about punctuation. I just want him to be able to say the right words which he clearly can't
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>>73701793
oh, it's one of those ironic replies where you force the grimes meme and shit everything up instead
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>>73701855
You don't realize that it's not easy for someone who isn't a native speaker to know all the intricacies of this complicated language. You didn't even provide an answer why that sentence is supposed to be wrong. The ideas are way more important than the form. As long you understand what I'm trying to say, it's all good. Stop being a grammar nazi, for fuck' sake. You're not helping anyone with your arrogant attitude.
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Are these conversations ever not fake? I feel its impossible to have real words and feelings anymore
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Grimes being annoyed: http://web.archive.org/web/20130901194703/http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/56990576819/i-apologize-in-advance-but-there-will-be-swearing-in
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>>73700904
>this mad because someone called him out for not being able to write
what eastern european shithole are you from, grimesfag?
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>>73703335
>grimesfag
>expecting to be taken seriously
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>>73703362
>clearly offended by 4chan memes on 4chan
>expecting to be taken seriously
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>>73703292
Oh they violated the purpose of something and used it as a sauce of publicity for themselves imagine that
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>>73703362
I am a grimesfag and i am not taken seriously
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>>73703335
>this mad

>ignoring the fact he's really mad and autist irl
>trying to divert the attention from his own stupidity
>projecting his own insecurities
>expecting to be taken seriously
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>>73703432
>tries to attack post making fun of his English by having even worse English
haha hoo hoo
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Why does nobody even talk the English? What? Huh? Can't hear you
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>>73703458
>caring so much about his precious english
>being such a grammar nazi
>trying to nitpick words like a complete turbo-autist
>despite whining like a full trash bin, he still understood my posts
>pretending to laugh
>being so pathetic
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>>73703586
I don't care, but don't call people "autistic" and "projecting" and trying to deny it when it's clearly true, like the post I was originally responding to. You need to calm down.
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>>73703458
Bonus:
>whining about my english
>using "this mad" >>73703335 like a complete fuckwit
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>tfw can't into grimes
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>>73703640
What music do you like in general?
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>>73703621
"this mad" is a meme, mate. How new are you?
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>>73703667
I like depressing music, sorry if its vague
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>>73703683
Then try her first 2 albums.
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>>73703879
Ok
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>>73703890
If you say you prefer depressing music I bet you're going to love Geidi Primes and Halfaxa. Listen to them ASAP.
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>>73704219
Sure, ill listen to them when im feeling like it
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Grimes is not very good. You're all insane.
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>>73704451
That's you
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>>73704451
This should have ended a long time ago
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>>73697930
What is this from? (not the record -- the photo).
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These threads are no longer any fun.

Listen, i'm a grimes fan. But you people are taking this shit too far. Not the trolls, you other fans. I got banned the other week for whatever reason because I wasn't "on topic" enough for OP.

OP, meanwhile posts on and on about his love for this woman. Which isn't even on topic. We're supposed to discuss her music, her work etc. But this person wants to discuss their love interest in Claire. It's ridiculous.

I was going to make my own thread which I was going to open to discussion good or bad. I've made my stance clear. That opinions about her should be open discussion. You don't like her, great, discuss why. I don't need to hear every g.d. thread about how she's "artist of the decade/century" -- every god damned thread.

If you're obsessed with her, fine. You do you. But realize you're putting out a crazy stalker vibe and it's throwing off most visitors to /mu. You want people to like grimes? Stop being obsessed with her. Learn to take the criticism objectively -- it's not even directed AT YOU.

Also, she'll never come into these threads. Nothing said in these threads matters to her. We should be able to objectively discuss her work without resorting to attacks (which OP and co have been doing every fucking thread).

As a fan of hers, I don't even care anymore about this shit. Either we discuss her openly, or we let these threads devolve into self obsessive masturbation. /rant.
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>>73704451
Feel free to openly discuss your view of her work. I'm open to these discussions good or bad.
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fuck you
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>>73705007
That's productive. What a thread. 1/10
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She ugly af
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>>73705044
Cool. What do you think of her music?
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>>73705057
it's shit
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>>73705071
Cool. So why are you in these threads? Are you getting anything out of them?
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>>73705020
Hi im gonna treat you like you're a cartoon
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>>73705116
Cool. Have fun.
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>>73705151
You're very full of shit
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>>73705166
Maybe... haven't had a crap lately. Think maybe I should go have one?

So anyway, what do you think about grimes?
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>>73705088
they're fun
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>>73705191
How so? Trolling? Baitin'? Not sure what you're getting out of it. I understand fully why trolls regularly visit these threads though. Not sure if the other fans do.
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>>73705181
I think about grimes all the time
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>>73705207
I'm not trolling, I just like watching the other trolls make you all so mad. I also enjoy arguing with you all
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>>73705235
Doesn't bother me at all. There are many anons in these threads who continually get butthurt about whatever the trolls are saying. As far as I am concerned they can say what they wish.

Like her, hate her, I don't care.
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>>73705235
I like anything about these threads, i dont like the locked-out feeling i get from them
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>>73704904
I'm typing this on mobile rn so I'm not gonna get too in-depth but honestly I'm just not a fan of how strongly her music resembles radio pop. Also her nasally chipmunk voice gets grating pretty quickly. But i generally dislike pop music to begin with so it makes sense that I wouldn't like her. I don't think she's horrible, I just don't understand this boards obsession with her
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>>73705287
Heh. Yeah I think she's addressed this in that she's said she has a love for "vapid" pop music. So she probably likes to throw that into her work somewhat.

Her voice. Meh, it's a toss up I guess. You either like it or not. She adds a lot of distortion to her voice and has also said she doesn't like to edit her voice.

As for the obsession, yeah I don't get it either. She seems fun but there are several rather hard up cases in these threads who are just out to lunch about her.
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>>73705255
based grimesfriend
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>>73704839
I don't know if it was really you but: you actually replied to an anon who said something sexual. Your reply was sexual too. Sorry, but you broke the rules.
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grimes is my life
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>>73704839
>These threads are no longer any fun.
Well, you could leave anytime. No fun anymore, what's the point of wasting your time here? Seriously. There are better ways to spend your time.
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>>73705364
what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>73705386
You might want to kill yourself but thus is all you have to hold onto
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>>73705364
No. I disagree. I was responding to something said. You ban people who are critical of her because you cannot see past your own infatuation. It's bothersome and non-constructive to these threads.

How is your continuous infatuation of her not against the rules? You talk in every thread about your love and obsession for her, yet somehow you magically give yourself a pass.

How convenient.
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>>73705386
I know this is hard to believe, but sometimes there are actually intelligent discussions about her and her work that happens in these threads.

Those are pretty fun.
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>>73705519
yeah but at this state, with the people who post in those threads now, that's long past gone.
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>>73682089
cancer
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>>73705566
Na. It happens randomly. Seems like when casual listeners come in we can have a great time. It's the people who are on the extreme ends, which these threads seem to attract, that end up fucking the whole thing. Ie. Obsessives and/or Haters/Trolls v. Casuals who just want to listen to new music.
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>>73705625
At this point there's enough of a reputation with these threads that that rarely happens. And I do enjoy talking with the new casuals, but the obsessives tend to ruin any attempted discussion if it's even slightly not pro-Grimes
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>>73705672
Absolutely agree with you there. That's what i've been saying all along in these threads. I'm a fan but god damn if there aren't some real edge cases in here who are constantly flying off the handle at the slightest suggestion that she isn't a literal deity fit for worship.

I observe again and again as those types repel any and all attempts for newbs to come in here to just enjoy her fucking music without having to continuously endure nails on chalkboard screeching on and on about how she's the best and how dare you question it.

We would all do well to just be casual in these threads and maybe then we'd all have an awesome fucking time, maybe convert a few trolls and simply enjoy some fucking music. But nope...
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>>73704839
>I got banned the other week for whatever reason because I wasn't "on topic" enough for OP.
Would you reproduce what exactly was in your post?
If it's some """""""""critics""""""""" like >>73682129 or >>73705568 (which are still not banned for some reason), then fuck off.
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>>73706085
Was not my post. You seemed to go on a banning spree in that thread and I got caught up in your sights.

Thanks btw.
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>>73705774
I went into the thread asking what other shit I should listen to if I loved Halfaxa but despised AA and Visions, and all I got was hate and people calling me an "Avant-pleb" since I answered that I liked experimental music when they asked what music I liked. These threads have truly gone to shit, and I used to be a troll before I listened to her music.
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>>73706113
>You
I would never report any quality discussion, only blatant shitposts like I mentioned.
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>>73706115
Were you a mod in that thread? Or OP for that matter? I don't even know who did the banning.

All I knew was that I was talking in the thread for like an hour and boom... no more posty post for me all of a sudden. WTF.
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>>73705568
It never gets better
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>>73706138
So you admit you go crying to the mods when you don't get your way in these threads? Can't you stand on your own merits and just have a damned simple discussion?

You wonder why there are so many trolls swarming around these threads? It's you.
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>>73706147
No, I'm not talking about the banning like you, I'm just talking about how shitty the obsessives have gotten
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>>73705568
I think things are going to get better ever again
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>>73706162
>So you admit you go crying to the mods when you don't get your way in these threads?
Are you retarded? Read again >>73706085
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>>73706163
Yes. Agreed very much so. That seems to be the entire reason these threads go to shit so fast.

OP posts "Isn't this person amazing" and trolls come in going "let me explain to you why this is shit" and op will respond with "no u!" and so it starts...
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>>73706188
Sorry, if you think i'm going to go and digest an hours worth of my posts to see which one of them was offensive to you enough to warrant a ban, you're crazy.

And also, you're starting again with your hostilities. Do not start with name calling, you are already breaking the fucking rules.

Maybe you should be banned?
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>>73706193
>let me explain to you why this is shit
Tbch I never saw a real argument why her music sucks. Not even once.
She's pretty hard to attack from a musical point of view, so most haters choose the easy way, ad hominem attacks to her appearance and her fanbase.
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"An open invitation to discuss grimes, good or bad..." something we'll never see in these threads.
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Claire
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>>73706193
>trolls come in going "let me explain to you why this is shit"
trolls don't do that, their posts are usually low-effort (albeit, they still do attract massive outcry somehow). if anybody does legitimately explain why they think that Grimes is shit, then they're not trolls and they're doing nothing wrong
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>>73706214
>offensive to you enough
>to you

As I said >>73706138
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>>73706239
No, i've seen many arguments against her work which were perfectly valid. I'm a fan of hers mind you. Everything from "too noisy" to "no production quality" etc.

They are valid critiques because we know she used to record her first albums through a frickin' laptop mic. Of course it's not going to be that great. For me it was the content that mattered, not that it had to be studio quality.
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>>73705774
>I observe again and again as those types repel any and all attempts for newbs to come in here to just enjoy her fucking music without having to continuously endure nails on chalkboard screeching on and on about how she's the best and how dare you question it.
Get the hell out of here. Newbies who are interesed in her music were always welcomed. If an anon asked for recommendation they always got one.

e.g.
>>73703640
>>73703667
>>73703683
>>73703890
>>73704219
>>73704286
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>>73706257
Or maybe a chance to speak for myself and feel like a real person, where my whole life revolves around. Im not going to get that with internet trolls, im just going to be a fucking toy to them every time
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>>73706279
Well, that could be the case for her first albums.
But saying "no production quality" about Visions or Art Angels is just objectively incorrect.
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grimes is my life
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>>73706115
>I used to be a troll before I listened to her music.
shame on you
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>>73706268
Keep telling yourself that. There was nothing that I said in any of these threads to warrant a ban. You did not even warn anyone that you were reporting OT posts. You're being ridiculous and hypocritical.

As in, there is someone in here who is obsessed and cannot handle the merits of any critiques against her thus moves directly to ban.

We should be able to have an open discussion about this artist. Also some off topic banter should be okay, though that could devolve into nonsense.

My point is that if you are going to talk about off topic posts, consider "I hope our grimey is sleeping well" being completely and utterly off topic. As should be "I love her" etc. Those are not within the merits of discussion, those are statements. As in, if you want to start a war with the other fans regarding th quality of their posts, do not be surprised if these threads end up with you by yourself discussion your obsessive behaviors with no one else.
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>>73706334
nah, she is mine
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>>73706294
Get the hell out of here? What kind of shit is that? You're so hostile. Why do the mods even tolerate your bullshit? You make these threads everyday and legit fans cannot even come in here to have a nice open discussion.

How about YOU get the hell out of here. Ie. if you can't take the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.
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>>73706295
Well uh... maybe stop being a toy. You choose to be triggered. Grow a thicker skin.

>>73706334

Off topic.
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>>73706294
That guy never asked for a recommendation, you just manipulated it into being a rec request
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>>73706354
Im nothing to her
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>>73706331
My point was that the critiques of earlier albums are valid. Most causal listeners do not have the presence of mind, nor should they have to, for all the background into how the albums were produced. They should simply be able to say whether they like it or not.
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>>73706341
>There was nothing that I said in any of these threads to warrant a ban.
OKAY, so what did you say?

Actually the silly vibes that I'm getting from your posts make me think that your ban was pretty reasonable.
I'll repeat the last time, these are examples of NOT a music discussion: >>73682129 >>73705044
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>>73706400
Im nobody
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>>73706340
>shame on you two years ago
damn, you got me

probably the best criticisms I've seen related to Grimes were in the Art Angels reaction thread 2 days ago, and they sum up my feelings towards the album perfectly. Watching the grimesfags incorrectly label the times between posts to prove that he didn't listen all the way through was hilarious, and their lack of ability to dispute any of his claims was a good laff as well
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>>73705287
>I just don't understand this boards obsession with her
2012 called. It wants its memes back.
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>>73706439
How the fuck should I know what I said amongst 50+ posts to warrant a ban? Are you kidding?

Your pointing out what is and isn't on topic is hilarious considering either you or another obsessive continually posts shit like "I love her" or "I hope our grimey is sleeping well" -- so we should tolerate those posts, but not those other ones?

Leave the damn comments to be. If they are OT don't respond to them and the original poster will go away. You don't need to hand out bans for every OT post. This is quickly turning into an iron fist thread.

The more you tighten your grip, the more they slip through your fingers.
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>>73706471
tell 2012 that it's correct and we still haven't gotten a good answer yet
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>>73706384
Tell me things will be ok
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>>73706458
Another reason we can't have proper discussion. People are too easily triggered and defensive about her work. I don't think you should have to create a 50 page digest as to why you think what you think. That's objectively your opinion, and it should be fine and good.

But that's just me, a moderate grimes fan speaking.
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>>73706482
>How the fuck should I know what I said amongst 50+ posts to warrant a ban? Are you kidding?
When you are banned, you can see the post which was the reason of your ban.

>"I love her" or "I hope our grimey is sleeping well" -- so we should tolerate those posts, but not those other ones?
At least they follow the main rule of these treads - to be nice to Grimes.
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>>73706498
No. That's your job. You tell yourself whatever you want to tell yourself. I'm not going to spoon feed you this thread. You're a big boy, put your big boy pants on and live a little.
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>>73706257
That would invite even more trolls.
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>>73706538
Why are you so angry? I need to be told things will be ok, what gave you the right to be angry with me?
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>>73706524
I have no idea how to check that. It didn't say shit in my ban explanation, just that I was banned. When it was instated, when it will end, etc. Nothing about the content of my post.

Also, you seem to be making up your own rules, apart from 4chans official list. Being "nice to grimes" is not in 4chans official rule listing. Thus irrelevant (ie. not bannable). I, as a fan of hers, do not believe that should be a rule.

People either like her or they don't. You can't help that. You can, however, hinder that by insisting everyone love her as you do.

Also, the merit of being "nice to grimes" is not possible since she is not here and never will be present in these threads. You can be nice to someone who is in the company of these threads. If she's not here, how can you be mean/nice to her? Do you not see how absurd that is?
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>>73706596
No, it would not. Trolls seem to only start their trolling under the guise of breaking rules or going against he grain. Being contrarian or disruptive etc.

If you allow them to have their say, and let them know right out front that it doesn't bother you then they have nothing to gain from the thread. The ONLY currency a troll has is pissing people off.
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>>73706385
>That guy never asked for a recommendation
Then why he said:
>tfw can't into grimes
?
It should be obvious that guy couldn't get into her music and implied he needed reasons or songs to help him to get into it.
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dj aaron ellis
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>>73706618
I'm not angry with you.
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>>73706367
You should be banned again. You're too nosy and simply tiring. Look: everyone behaves in their own way. Who are you to police people how they should behave? Just mind your business, buddy.

FYI I didn't even make this thread.
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>>73706620
>I have no idea how to check that. It didn't say shit in my ban explanation, just that I was banned. When it was instated, when it will end, etc. Nothing about the content of my post.
look dad, a newfag lol
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>>73706620
You should awful things about her appearance instead so she stays low confidence and gets more bodily ink which you'll totally support
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>>73706721
No, again, you're the one being hostile. I'm not policing the thread any more than any other anon. Simply suggesting the thread remain neutral and open to people to talk about the content.

Dictating what people can say in the thread is being absurd and ridiculous.

You can have your say and think what you wish. Won't make it so.
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>>73706721
>someone tells another person to leave the thread for no reason
>telling them that that's bullshit is somehow nosy
Honestly just kill yourself
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>>73706735
I don't post often. Sorry, not a 4chan wizard yet.
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>>73706767
Not sure what you mean there. She's free to do what she pleases with her body. I don't care.
>>
these threads are barely about grimes because people come in here trying to literally challenge these stone-headed retards about how grimes is not that fucking good and one or two cunts with impeccable grammar reply saying some incredibly ignorant, almost schizophrenic shit about her that gets everyone triggered for a few hours to the point where they barely respond

that being said, grimes is not that fucking good
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>>73701390
Considering you're here and she isn't - it's just you.
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>>73706833
What did he mean by this? The main grimes autist has terrible grammar
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>>73706666
Would you even know if you were? You're being aggressive towards the whole situation in general. Maybe you think that helps you manage your situation but it doesn't, you're just writing a story with no meaning behind it at all. This is why people are going to feel like shit about themselves, they only social outlet is now your personal dumpster fire. You just don't care
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>>73706341
You're ridiculous. The mods don't post here. At least not officially. Leave that guy alone, he didn't ban you.
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>>73706833
And.... /thread.

No seriously though that's a fairly accurate assessment of the quality of these threads. I'm a fan, and I think all the other fans could stand to lighten the fuck up a little.
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>>73706833
>grimes is not that fucking good
not true, she is a great artist
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>>73706892
not true, she only has one good album
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>>73706890
>I'm a fan
Something makes me think that you aren't.
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>>73706868
No, you're right. I don't care. This is and should be a casual grimes thread. This isn't dr.phil or some shit where you air out your personal issues. Maybe 4chan could use a /selfhelp thread.

Not being an asshole, I wish you well anon. Just keep your personal issues out of the discussion.
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>>73706458
>probably the best criticisms I've seen related to Grimes were in the Art Angels reaction thread 2 days ago, and they sum up my feelings towards the album perfectly. Watching the grimesfags incorrectly label the times between posts to prove that he didn't listen all the way through was hilarious, and their lack of ability to dispute any of his claims was a good laff as well
That doesn't make that OP right. Your AA hate means nothing.

>grimesfags
I hope you don't expect to be taken seriously.
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>>73706833
Do you think people's mental heath is in fact being affected? You could elaborate more on that, it's edgy and cool
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>>73706907
not true, all her four albums are great
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>>73706909
Case & Point
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>>73706878
Well I didn't ban myself. Does OP have ban rights? I don't get it. As i've said, OP and a few other obsessives seem keen on banning those who are critical of her. I think that's ridiculous.

I'm a fan of hers but I think people should be free to think what they wish. I mean fuck me right?
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>>73706909
So because i'm not obsessed with her i'm not a good grimes fan? Is this a one true scottsman fallacy? Gimme a break.

I don't need to kiss her ass for her to feel good. If she makes great music, great. If she makes crap, again, it's fine. People should feel free to comment how her music makes THEM feel. Not how they SHOULD feel.
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>>73706857
He doesn't use lowcase anymore. He used to reddit space his comments too
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>>73706922
not true, Halfaxa is the only good one

>>73706917
>that doesn't make that OP right
So? His criticisms were actually well thought out and genuine, not to add that the thread itself was hilarious with all the people made.

>I hope you don't expect to be taken seriously
Is the average age of all grimesfags 12?
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>>73706914
It would nice if you cared
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>>73706922
To you.

People are free to think otherwise and we should encourage them to express why in these threads.

What annoys me about these threads is they seem to almost entirely orbit around how great everything she does is. We should be able to accept that not everyone is going to react exactly the same to her music.
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>>73706953
>So because i'm not obsessed with her i'm not a good grimes fan?
Not because of that.
In this post >>73706890 you have literally agreed that "grimes is not that fucking good" and you keep calling yourself a fan after that. Checkmate, autist.
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>>73706991
I do not have enough energy in my being to care about every damned thing going on in this world. Someone, somewhere is dying right now. Do you care? Someone is going hungry right now, do you care? Someone tripped and fell, do you care?
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>>73706909
>anyone who is less obsessed than me on this Sri Lankan toaster discussion forum isn't a fan
This is why everyone here hates Grimes fans
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>>73706996
>People are free to think otherwise and we should encourage them to express why in these threads.
Yes, hence I'm free to think that all her four albums are great. Why can't you accept that?
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>>73707012
No, again, you see that was his OPINION. It's not a fact. One cannot make blanket statements about her music being objectively good or bad without discussing why. I am not going to defend their comment or whatever because again, that was THEIR opinion, not mine.

Also, I tend to joke about things a lot. I find it lightens things up. You know humor don't you?
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>>73707012
He was agreeing with the part of the post analyzing these thread, you fucking moron
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>>73707032
>anyone who is less obsessed than me on this Sri Lankan toaster discussion forum isn't a fan
I didn't say that.
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>>73707045
*threads
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>>73707032
And precisely why i'm trying to change that by offering that you should feel free to feel about grimes what you wish. It is not up to mods or OP to decide what you feel. Nor is it anyones job to police how people feel or respond to Grimes music. We are free to think whatever the hell we want.

If you like her, great, i'm happy. If she doesn't do it for you, then again, that's fine too. Nobody should feel bad because they don't like her music or only like/respond to it in part.
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>>73707043
I can accept your viewpoint if you can accept anothers critique that they are not. I think they're great too, but I won't force that opinion on other people.

I, personally, don't think Visions is that great. I have my favorites.
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>>73707060
You said that you didn't believe him to be a fan, and the only thing that you could possibly use to explain that post is that he says that he's a "moderate fan". Hence, I thought that that's what you were referring to

>>73707076
I agree
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>>73706920
Probably. I'd get fucking stressed the fuck out if I had to argue with these idiots
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>>73707026
So, no
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>>73707117
No.
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>>73707076
im honestly wondering if you have some sort of ego issue, the way your opinion shifts so dynamically to bolster your "point" is actually unsettling
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>>73707157
Point to where his opinion shifted
>>
>Something makes me think that you aren't.

>And precisely why i'm trying to change that by offering that you should feel free to feel about grimes what you wish.

>>73707179
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>>73707106
And when you care about that girl, and have probably been here for 18 months. id probably want to kill myself or something probably
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>>73707157
Could be your projecting this "ego issue" but that's just my opinion. I find it exhausting most times to deal with people in these threads simply because every god damned thread has to be so polarizing.

Either you're an obsessive, or you're a hater, and there doesn't seem to be much room in between for moderates. I argue a moderate point, and i'm immediately attacked as not a "true" grimes fan and/or agreeing and siding with the haters. I cannot win, nor am I trying to. I will continue my trend towards moderation to clean up these discussions.

If you want to have threads continually devolving into shit, fine. I'll bow out and simply lurk. I won't post anymore. I figured I might chime in and suggest people chill a bit. But again, see the above to observe how that goes most times.

It just fundamentally bothers me that people seem to need to be so one sided. It's like with pepsi/coke, or playstation/xbox or whatever the fuck else. People just cannot, NOT be fanboys. This reminds me of a skit by paton oswalt about skycake.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55h1FO8V_3w
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>>73707245
LMFAO
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>>73706787
>I'm not policing the thread any more than any other anon.
Yeah sure. You're very nosy and basically reply to everyone.

>Simply suggesting the thread remain neutral and open to people to talk about the content.
That's an utopia. There can't be neutrality when it comes to her. There are 2 options:
1 You like her and discuss her here
2 You dislike or don't care about her and mind your business (post elsewhere).

I'm totally against trolls invading these threads. I report everything suspicious.
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>>73707140
You replied so you cared
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>>73707289
Active in the thread = nosy. Got it.

Also option 3. Post your opinion in a grimes thread and not be butthurt (advanced users only, requires temperance).

But hey, feel free to think what you want. It's a free world.
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>>73706833
you seem mad, sweetie. did you forget your pills ?
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>>73707289
>you can't discuss an artist if you dislike them
So you want an echo chamber then?

>you're very nosy
>stop discussing with people!
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>>73707291
Oooh you got me. Have a Care Bear.
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>>73707375
>So you want an echo chamber then?
A fan club.
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>>73707375
Precisely again why it's hard to discuss anything in these threads. There's always those trying to keep it an echo chamber. Because HOW DARE YOU people have a different opinion than me! LOL.
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spotted the autist >>73706963
did you stalk that anon even @ toilet?
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>>73707407
Fan Club != Being obsessive.
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>>73707376
You sound like an asshole
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>>73707357
Rule of a grimes thread: Be nice to Grimes. It's in OP's post.
If you don't follow this rule, then you are off-topic. Simpe as that.
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>>73707407
So yeah, an echo chamber

>>73707442
Jesus Christ, at least learn a bit more English, you're only giving us more reasons to make fun of you, Yuri
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>>73707442
I wouldn't really call myself a stalker if im just being observant, i didn't hack his shit or fuck with his head or anything
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>>73707456
So giving people a care bear = being an asshole.

Well holy shit. I cannot win with you people. I give up, i'm ordering my grimes worship kit on amazon as I type this. Fuck it. Might as well go all in with you fuckers.
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>>73707462
Criticizing her art is not being mean to Grimes. How sensitive do you think she is?
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>>73706930
The OP doesn't have any rights. The mods are behind the scenes. They banned you, not the OP.

BTW see that if you complain about mods they could ban you again for that. Read the rules.
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>>73707407
Hell club sounds better
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>>73707498
Exactly! Do some of you fanboys (i'm a fan of hers) think that if you don't praise every tinsy tiny detail of her work that she's going to suddenly find out that some anon, somewhere in the world, didn't like that and go cry in a corner?

Get fucking real. She's a grown woman. She's faught off people trying to steal her fucking keyboard during a show. You think she cares what someone thinks on the internet? HA!
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>>73707497
Ok
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>>73707499
I am not "complaining" about the mods. I am trying to figure out what the fuck I did wrong. Does the phrase "walking on eggshells" mean anything to you?

That's what these threads are becoming, very quickly. I suspect we'll be handing out patches of support at any moment. And god help you if you don't have one when the mods come.
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>>73707527
Barely anyone on the internet cares about her, so
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>>73707498
Then criticize her properly, not with posts like >>73682129
>>
To illustrate what's wrong with these threads...

Random anon enters the thread, reads up and says "Hey I think her work is okay but not that great" and everyone in the thread goes "GET HIM!"

Instead of "Hey that's okay Anon, hope you find something of hers to like."
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>>73707483
>moving the goalposts
stop acting offended, fucktard. you're a shitty stalker. shame on you. my english is none of your business, autist.
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>>73707587
There is nothing improper about what was posted. Simply that their statement was never allowed to be qualified by the poster.

Ie. They did not qualify anything about what they said. So we could all be adults and maybe not indulge that poster, or we could go crying to the mods to come ban that person immediately because how dare they?
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>>73707578
So, her almost 1 mil followers on Facebook are an illusion? Her reviews are an illusion too?
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>>73707598
>moving the goalposts
I objectively wasn't, since I wasn't trying to change the topic of discussion. You're point was too stupid to even bother arguing with, so I just gave you some advice to avoid future ridicule

>>73707587
I wasn't talking about those posts you fucking ape
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>>73707598
Gentleman, may we refrain from these personal attacks. Even if you were both autistic you'd still be okay in my books. Being autistic isn't anything to accuse people of being disparagingly. People cannot help how they are born.
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>>73707590
>Hey I think her work is okay but not that great
Then you have to back up your opinion with something valuable. Saying that something is not great is meaningless.
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>>73706113
>You seemed to go on a banning spree
FYI OPs have no special administrative rights on the 4chan system. What stays/goes is entirely up to janitors/mods.
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>>73707635
You can buy likes on facebook. That doesn't mean a damn thing. Again, i'm a fan of hers, but I feel like I should chime in about that. Again that post >>73707578 is that persons opinion.

Why do you so easily take the bait anon?
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>>73707657
No, it is not meaningless. It is someones opinion. The value is inherent to the discussion. Whether you value discourse between individuals is where the value lies. That's up to YOU and whether you both want and value opinions different from your own.

If all we want to do is hear what we're already thinking, then why the fuck even bother? We have discussions to get valuable insights that we are NOT thinking. Hence, different. It's supposed to make you THINK anon.

You're not supposed to be offended because someones opinion varies from your own. You're supposed to wonder to yourself WHY their opinion differs.
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>>73707660
Hmmm... well still not understanding why I was banned. Oh well. To err is human, and mods are human.
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>>73707635
Do you really think people would have to like her if they knew about her? Maybe she would be popular if she could sing properly or didn't look like a monster
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>>73707705
>You're supposed to wonder to yourself WHY their opinion differs.
That's why I said
>you have to back up your opinion
Otherwise, someone simply says "she's shit" and then we should discuss why he is wrong, right? Bullshit.
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>>73707759
Grimes fan here, laughed at the monster bit. But uh... hey you got any more of them monsters? 'Cause like i'm asking for a friend with a monster fetish.
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>>73707804
No we shouldn't discuss why he's "wrong" there should not be a wrong or right in these threads. They are entirely subjective experiences and these are all peoples opinions. Make of them what you will.

This is why I dont' get butthurt in these threads. People can say she's whatever they want. All good to me.

And hey, it's great of people to elaborate about their opinions which serves only to lend weight their argument. Which may have me consider if in fact she may be not as great as I think. That's healthy discourse anon.
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>>73706458
>Watching the grimesfags incorrectly label
Anon, you're referring to one specific poster - the notorious ESL anon who is personally responsible for taking around 85% of the obvious troll b8 posted in these threads and responding to it with cartoon insults. Because it amused him, apparently. Here's one of his posts - >>73703621
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>>73707866
it was definitely multiple people, at least 3. That does make up the obsessives on here, lmao
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>>73707832
>People can say she's whatever they want.
see >>73699479
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>>73707245
>I argue a moderate point, and i'm immediately attacked as not a "true" grimes fan and/or agreeing and siding with the haters. I cannot win, nor am I trying to. I will continue my trend towards moderation to clean up these discussions.
You picked exactly the most controversial artist on /mu/ for that. Better leave and pick a different artist.
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>>73707375
>you can't discuss an artist if you dislike them
What the point in that? What do you gain by doing that?

If you dislike x artist, listen to something else. Problem solved.
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>>73707914
Seems about right. I was ballparking at something like 3 of them. There's

1) Million pictures guy (has every picture of her in existence)
2) "Grimey sleeping well" guy.
3) The shrine guy who has pictures of her printed out with the candles and such.

Not sure which of them would be the most offended in these threads.

Again, i'm a fan, but I think it'd be cool if we all just toned it down a notch or two.
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>>73707494
>excusing his stalkerish tendencies
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>>73707941
Nah. I'm here for this purpose. I shouldn't have to change threads simply because people are passionate about their opinion of her.
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>>73707832
>these are all peoples opinions
Not all of them. Saying "I don't like her music" is an opinion. Saying "she is shit" is objectively incorrect statement.
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>>73707961
Agreed. The whole point of discussing anything is to gather upon others opinions to derive ones own. That means the good AND the bad.

Simply breaking out the shovel and heaping praise on this person is an exercise in echo chamber mechanics.
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>>73707987
What did i do wrong
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>>73708011
>incorrect

Define incorrect.
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>>73707759
Such a lame opinion, fooool!
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>>73707975
>1) Million pictures guy (has every picture of her in existence)
A lot of people have a collection of pictures with her, even David Byrne.
You can also download a pack for yourself: https://mega.nz/#F!1NJQEILC!5yRQeIQiPpOxVvUwPmWBrQ

>2) "Grimey sleeping well" guy.
It's not the same guy every time. Sometimes I post that too.

>3) The shrine guy who has pictures of her printed out with the candles and such.
I have seen at least 2 Grimes shrines.
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>>73707832
>People can say she's whatever they want. All good to me.
Because you don't really care about Grimes. You're a mere observer, not a fan. A real fan don't have a "I don't give a fuck" attitude about his fave artist, do you know what I mean? People defend what they love.
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>>73708108
Well fuck... this changes everything.

That means there are clearly more than 3 obsessives. This is heavy.
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>>73708108
>sometimes I post that too
ABANDON SHIP, HE'S BEEN FOUND
>I have seen at least 2 Grimes shrines
is that including or not including the one in your house?
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>>73708098
Im sorry
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>>73707866
>responsible for taking around 85% of the obvious troll b8 posted in these threads and responding to it with cartoon insult
Ever occured to you that it was just a game?
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>>73708138
you realize that you can like someone's music without actually caring about them, right? You've passed the line to full blown autism
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>>73708044
something that is not true
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>>73708138
I don't give a fuck BECAUSE SHE'S NOT FUCKING HERE. What the hell does it matter what some random anon says about her? Is it going to magically hurt her feelings? No it isn't.

I care about her, and I like her just fine. But really, you need to check your head a bit. I don't need to be slurping her buttcrack to be a "true" fan of hers. This is exhausting.

I mean if you have to sign up to the support grimes the way we say fan club and pay your dues by rhyming off how she's artist of the decade every god damned thread then forget it. I'm out.

Again, I like you guys just fine but sometimes you're unbearable. Be a fan, like her music, like her, talk about her. But don't fucking bitch about how other people perceive her or how I SHOULD perceive her. It's asinine and condescending.
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>>73708161
LOL i'm sorry anon, that was funny as fuck.

(Also, again, just for posterity and reference i'm a grimes fan).
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>>73708161
it's none of your business how many grimes shrines are in my house
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>>73708011
>objectively incorrect
wut
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>>73708148
There are not the same people everytime. There are many users who just play games here.
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>>73708196
You cannot verify anything said here short of citing her directly. And peoples opinions are not citable facts, they are opinions. They are free to have them.
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>>73708211
Yes she is
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>>73708229
Obsessive Confirmed.

Not that op but damn you kinda baited yourself into that one. So by my count I think we're still at 3 obsessives.
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>>73708192
You reply on every single Grimes thread and do you dare to accuse of "full blown autism"? Are you for real, shitposter? Get a life dummy.
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>>73707448
fan: a shortened form of the word fanatic.

Not attempting to defend anyone's behavior - merely pointing out realiti. ;)
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