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Live Reaction of "Art Angels" by Grimes

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This is my first time listening to the album or Grimes. Let's go
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THIS
THIS MUSIC MAKES ME CRY
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it's a shit album
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>>73672020
This. Stop now, OP, before it's too late
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>>73671951
Laughing and Not Being Normal:

I don't know about that production or piano chords, or vocals. But it's the first track
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>>73672039
>I'm self-important enough to make a thread reacting to a fucking pop album
>I dunno about everything about the song, I guess

OP a shit
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>>73671951
it's her best album
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The opening and Kill V. Maim are the only good tracks.
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California:

I'm not really into the vocals so far, it just seems uninteresting. And I'm reading the lyrics too, it seems very generic. I really don't like that reverby production too. Not a good song. It sounds like a more processed or cheaper Bjork so far
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Scream:

Wow this may be the most fedora song I have ever heard. Fuck me. That guitar is absolute boiling diarrhea. Good Christ that was shit
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>>73672113
I can't wait for that one autistic grimes-posting sperglord who is on the board all the time to see your negative reactions and then start with his classic procedure of insulting you for not worshipping his waifu enough... oh boy, it will be fun like every time :D
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>>73671951
weird, I'm at the end of listening to this now.

Never heard anything from her outside realiti and her other big song.

Idk why /mu/ cucks themselves over her 24/7.

The song with the chinese female rapper is cool and pretty solid production throughout
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Flesh without Blood:

I didn't like any of that, again I find it to be pretty generic with the lyrics.
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>>73672162
How the fuck was that song "fedora"? Do you mean pretentious? I'll give you pretentious, but fedora? Really? Have you been on this site for only like a week and are just throwing around random insults you heard used on here?
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>>73672246
I found the Chinese lyrics backed up with the Muse-esque guitar to be absolutely terrible. This sounds like music for weebs and fedoras, I'm sorry if you disagree
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Belly of the Beat:

I really don't like that acoustic guitar beat, or the into, or the chorus
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Kill V. Maim:

I think I've made a mistake in listening to this album. I haven't liked a single track yet or any single aspect of this music, this track enforces that, especially those fucking vocals. Woof
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OP seems to be pretty patrician
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Artangels:

Terrible, terrible track. That guitar sample is horseshit. If there's one thing, this album is pretty atmospheric and engrossing. I don't know if that's just me
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>>73672246
he is here everybody!
point and laugh!
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this album is ok
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>>73672491
>>73672554
I haven't liked a single second of this album yet.

Easily:

This song is the equivalent to porridge oats without anything added. It's so bland from the pap lyrics to piano chords. Those bridges honestly made me wince.
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Pin:

No. Though this is probably the best track so far, the best thing about it is the lyrics. But other than that, no.
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Realiti:

In comparison to the tracks beforehand, it wasn't that bad. I like this song the most, maybe it's the lack of guitar samples. I don't know. That being said I still wouldn't listen to this on its own
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World Princess part II:

No.
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>>73672388
KYS it's the best track
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Venus Fly:

That production is completely obnoxious, I honestly have a headache. Everything about this song is liquid shit. That violin sample too. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck.
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>>73672069
>hating experimental pop
P L E B
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imagine being this >>73672209 autistic
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Life in the Vivid Dream:

Why does this album have to use the most generic and basic sounding instruments? If that's intentional, I don't care, it's horrible. That goes for the lyrics too, I feel like any pasty 13 year old girl could write this
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>>73672894
As autistic as the pic related? I don't think I can.
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>>73672879
Still pop and very accessible
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>>73672792
>19:34:34
>>73672842
>19:37:58
World princess is 5:05, you listened to and shitposted in less than four.
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>>73671951
>>73672039
>>73672113
>>73672162
>>73672245
>>73672325
>>73672388
>>73672435
>>73672510
>>73672598
>>73672658
>>73672720
>>73672792
>>73672842
so, you're basically a dumbass with a shit taste that decided to shit on a perfectly fine album? why did you open a whole thread to broadcast your shitty taste and your diharrea ramblings? fuck off. you don't even deserve to hear her music.
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imagine being so self-important you post your live reactions to an album you're listening to on 4chan and then argue with people who disagree with you
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>>73672962
My worst enemy doesn't deserve to hear her music.
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Butterfly:

Wow, way to end an album. Fuck me. I don't know what to say.
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>>73672942
well spotted. the idiotic op didn't even listen to the entire tracks. shame on him. i hate these posers.
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>>73672942
Are all grimesfags this stupid?
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>>73671951
Dude it's trash just listen to this shit from /daily/ instead and react to it because I just heard it for the first time and shit my pants
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7X6XFoIRHRarOvR8uzJtIdwyDzawA_1V
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>>73672977
you're your worst enemy.
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>>73672020
holy fuck she's ugly
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>>73672981
>>73672942
He made the post when he was done with the song, not when he started the song. Do you have autism? The post before he made the world princess post was 5 minutes and 10 seconds before it, enough time to listen to the song and make a 7 word analysis
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shit taste
shit thread
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>>73672942
>implying you can't tell a song isn't something you enjoy within the first few minutes, especially with this bland same-y shit
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>>73672969
he's a pathetic self absorbed asshole
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>>73672962
>>73672969
Is this how you handle someone who doesn't agree with you about music? What if I said that it was the greatest album I have ever listened to? You would have zero fucking problem. Good Christ was that a bad experience and I hate myself for listening to it.
>>73672942
>>73672981
Sorry, I'll listen to it again and still think it's complete bullshit. Excuse me.
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Grimes learns how to play guitar: The album
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>>73673024
>It takes me longer to get through the captcha
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>>73672879
I like experimental pop but there is literally nothing experimental about this album

it's the new Lana Del Rey or Arctic Monkeys that girls who pretend to like music listen to
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>>73672818
>>73672879
>>73672942
>>73672977
>>73672981
>>73673026
allyougrimesfags
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>>73673041
I'm a self absorbed asshole for being a faceless name on the internet giving my opinion. Jesus Christ you people are insufferable. Is this what all Grimes fans are like? That must be completely embarrassing for her
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>>73673030
>admitting cheating on a live reaction thread
absolutely pathetic. shame on you.

>same-y shit
just what i thought. you didn't even listen to it. if 'scream' sounds the same as 'easily' to you, then you're a dumbass, deaf or idiot. pick one.
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>>73673082
Ok, then he started the post as the song was ending. Doesn't change anything.
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>>73672962
look at this post
everytime it makes me laugh
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>>73673103
That wasn't him, and he didn't cheat
See
>>73673024
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>>73673086
>I like experimental pop but there is literally nothing experimental about this album
literally name one similar album to it. or shut the fuck up.
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>>73673127
i don't think it's even possible to name an album that's so similarly shit as art angels senpai
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>>73673127

so every album that doesn't sound like any other album is labeled experimental now?

lol there sure is a lot of mainstream experimental artists i guess
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>>73673106
stop finding excuses. he didn't even listen to those songs except few fragments here and there. op wasn't honest AT ALL. i dislike cheaters. how pathetic is to do this on a live reaction thread? he didn't even have the patience to wait more between his ramblings.
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Listen to fka twigs OP

She's likes grimes but good
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>>73673127
holy kek

just look at the top charts for pop and you can find very similar stuff, not as annoying though

your goblin artist is truly nothing special, she makes good background music though
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>>73673154
not an argument
>>73673166
yes. because being experimental means being groundbreaking. if you can't find anything similar to art angels it means it's singular, experimental, never did before. i don't know what is your definition of experimental but it must suck.
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>>73673103
grimesfag defends grimes tooth and nail because someone on the internet doesn't like an artist they do, then uses "either 'dumbass or idiot" like they don't colloquially mean the same thing.
>absolutely pathetic
>Is idiot
>Is dumbass
>Don't pick one just accept it you lameboi grimesfag
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>>73673173
Twigs is absolute shit.
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>>73673050
don't listen to aa again, listen to visions instead
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>>73673169
I did listen to those songs. Again, I'm sorry you don't agree with what I'm saying. Don't accuse me of "cheating" (which isn't true), and being dishonest (the fact that you said that is completely pathetic) purely because you don't agree with me. That's childish in every sense of the word
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>>73673209
grimes is worse desu
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>>73673169
He listened to all the songs correctly. Once again, see >>73673024
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>>73671951
>>73673224
I really like her album art to the point that I want to like her albums but I find her music to be insufferably bland, what do???????
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>>73673195
post names, dumbass, not vague shit like "just look at the top charts for pop". those albums don't sound like art angels and none of them even have a tune like scream on them.

>>73673173
she's the dull version of grimes. but the plebby op may prefer that crap. grimes' music is 2 deep for him.
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>>73673204
>grimesfag
>expecting to be taken seriously
eat shit

>>73673209
this
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>>73673263
every grimesfag who uses ">expecting to be taken seriously" is making no effort to hide samefagging
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>>73673229
at least don't use her name as tripcode. you disgust me.
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>>73673243

>she's the dull version of grimes

so she's similar to grimes. therefore grimes is not experimental. gg
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>>73672942
>>73672981
>>73673082
>>73673103
>>73673169
The fact that you guys found that a compelling argument is completely mind blowing to me. I'm amazed. Even if I did "cheat" I would still have the same exact thoughts
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>>73673239
lie to yourself and forcibly like it even if you still really don't deep down inside

or maybe find a high res print and put it on your wall or something like that i guess
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>>73673294
damn
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>>73673285
>dumbass never heard of copy-paste or memes
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>>73673296
>Even if I did "cheat"
CONFIRMED
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>>73673289
Sorry I want to be distinguished from the rest of you fucking mouthbreathers. I made the thread and I totally regret it and listening to that shit of an album
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>>73673294
a dull version =/= similar. just listen to her bland music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtMl-uipA8

grimes would never allow a song to be so fucking bland.
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>>73673263
>Is grimesfag
>expecting to be taken seriously when trying to make a statement about others being taken seriously
>Proving the grimesfag stereotype
I think this is why /grimes/ threads exist, so you can exist in an echo chamber.
eat shit
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>>73673296
>Even if I did "cheat" I would still have the same exact thoughts
>admitting of putting no effort to get into her music
your opinions are discarded. whatever you say itt should be taken with a grain of salt.
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OP, Please stop.
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>>73673323
>I made the thread and I totally regret it
Thanks for the entertainment
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>>73673341
This is more enjoyable than grimes tracks I've heard, and I'm not a fan of either artist.
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>>73673323
you could use just the "op" tripcode, mofo. aa is a pleb filter and you failed like a noob. just don't brag about your shitty taste.
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>>73673394
(You)
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>>73672435
>woof
Is this some new redditshit.
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>>73673341
except that is her entire discography
>>73673320
>>73673369
>>73673380
holy shit he is allowed to have an opinion of the album if he doesn't listen to the tracks in full, Art Angels is a long drag to listen to
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>>73673369
I did nothing else but listen to the songs, digest the sonic nature of the songs, actually read the lyrics, and I made my opinion concrete. Maybe I'll listen to it again and change my mind, I doubt it. And by "I would still have the same exact thoughts" meaning my opinion wouldn't have changed in the middle of the songs to the end of the song. In fact it would make it worse if I did that because of some of the horseshit bridges and breakdowns. But no, sorry you disagree
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>>73673429
Waaaaaah, I don't like what he say therefore he's a reddit user. If anything this sounds what Reddit would like by that same standard
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I hate pleb
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>>73673466
hey reddit. Little bitch.
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>>73673433
>Art Angels is a long drag to listen to
wth? aa is super catchy synthpop, not some drone shit. wtf is not get about it? i swear some of you were brainwashed by /mu/ to dislike pop and enjoy noisy crap like swans and merzbow.
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>>73673510
All me
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>>73673438
you dislike her album, now move on. shitpost elsewhere. your work is done.
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>>73673510
>lelelel
>this cretin wants to be taken seriously
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>>73673433
>>73673520
I promise I listened to every single second of the album. Don't know why that's in contention.

>>73673540
I'm fascinated how the brains of the Grimes fans work. It's genuinely amazing to me
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>>73673510
>all me btw
>>73673520
swans is fantastic, merzbow is meme trash. If you like 'experimental pop' like this but don't even understand swans past 'noisy' you might be the one with a brainwashed opinion
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>>73673559
"oh my goodness he uses internet vernacular when typing what a fucking idiot. I can't take someone so lowly seriously, even though the post had no serious content at all"
lel
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>>73673320
>>73673369
"Even if I did" means "I didn't, but if I did...". How stupid can all of you be?
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>>73673573
>I'm fascinated how the brains of the Grimes fans work. It's genuinely amazing to me
You know, your getting trolled for amusement.
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>>73673584
>swans is fantastic
stop. this edgy crap is not fantastic but absolutely terrible. i don't get why some folks listen to ths awful music (if you can call this drivel music). is the purpose of music to be ugly and annoying? i doubt it.
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>>73673651
I've always wondered if there was a level of irony to the stonewall defense that grimes fans have of her person and her music. Is it all waifu-shit or is this confirming that it is mostly jokes?
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why does anyone give a shit what this random guy has to say?
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>>73673653
this person is certainly either falseflagging or has only heard TBK

I am being baited hard but idc
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>>73673651
Again, if I said nothing negative about the music. None of you autists would have the slightest of problems. That's completely sad honestly
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>>73673024
Why are all the grimesfags ignoring this post and still levying accusations of cheating? Really makes my nog jog
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>>73673653
I love when grimesfags say her shit pop music is too deep for them but can't even get into Swans
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>>73673686
When you figure it out, you'll know what not to shitpost.
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>>73673708
the problem is that you said only negative things about her music. do you want validation for your shitty taste? not here, buddy. it's like making a live reaction thread about a mozart piece and saying only negative stuff. don't expect people to agree with you.

you're not ready to handle her music.
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>>73673787
Too deep for others, I mean
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>>73673798
>he listened to an album
>he didn't like any aspects of it
>"the problem is that you said negative things about it"
What the fuck did you expect him to say in a thread about him giving his thoughts on the album as it went on? Honestly kill yourself.
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>>73673798
>oppie boopie I have internet access and can post things pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffph
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>>73673708
If you loved it there would be plenty of haters tearing your ass apart.
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>>73673768
>grimesfags
>expecting to be taken seriously
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>>73673787
swans is crap, tho. and don't get me started about gira's awful lyrics and his antics.
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>>73673795
If I take a dive into /GG/ threads will I be able to find out or will I have to keep interacting tangentially with her either insufferable or genuinely hilarious fan base? I don't want to put in that kind of legwork
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>>73673844
Literally and whole heartedly too deep for you

>>73673835
>this meme again
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>>73673850
you can't escape them. deal with it, whiny poser.
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>>73673798
My favorite food is oatmeal without anything added to it, how dare you call my favorite food tasteless, bland, and completely uninteresting >:^( . I'll always have better taste than you
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>>73673850
>/GG/
/gg/ won't tell you anything. There's worse shitposting in there than /Grimes/, you could ignore it.
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>>73673869
>>73673901
I... I just want to understand.... It's either a great joke or an entertaining anthropological study on obsession and confirmation bias through their self-contained talk spaces
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>>73673863
>Literally and whole heartedly too deep for you
crap too deep for me. that's right. excuse me, i need to step over it.
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>>73673935
Keep on driving home how much of a normie you are
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>>73673926
did your script failed, bot?
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>>73673869
Also how does my not wanting to interact with a subset of internet people that I can't stand make me a poser?
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GRIMES WILL NOT DIVIDE US
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GIDF on cue as usual
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>>73673965
Grimes Internet Defense Force?
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>grimesfaggots can't into basic experimental shit like swans
>claim to like experimental music

like pottery
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>>73673935
>says that he likes experimental music
>can't get into babby's first
Wew
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Jesus christ could you guys stop?

Maybe the album isn't for him, and not in the passive aggressive "2deep4u!" and "you just can't appreciate her greatness!11" way, maybe it's just not the kind of stuff he is into, regardless of how good it is and what were the expectations of OP, maybe it isn't the kind of music he is looking for and that's okay considering Grimes doesn't really make music for everyone (and holy shit she has tried really hard). But it's not like you don't love the "exclusive" feel this gives you so I don't know why you care about OP "mean" opinion"
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>>73674020
Haha I had absolutely zero expectations for this album or Grimes. Whenever I see a Grimes thread or something about this album I completely go over it, since I haven't listened to it. But I knew it was synthpop, and I really enjoy synthpop, but I really didn't like this at all. Thanks for having my back
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>>73674020
Based
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>>73673993
are you mad, shitposter? there's nothing wrong to not be able to get into shitty edgy music like swans.

>experimental shit like swans
>admitting that swans is shit
what sane person would listen to experimental shit like swans instead of experimental pop like grimes?
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If you can't see what attracts people to Grimes, maybe it's because you're old.

People will always tend to gravitate towards the underground. Unless they're 50. Why not just start a Dio or Kiss thread so you can hang out with your peers?

Or did they all die of old age?
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>>73674098
see
>>73673699

>31 posters
>145 replies
jesus fuck guys
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>>73674074
>I really enjoy synthpop
>dislikes grimes, one of the best synthpop artists
how is that even possible? you must like shitty synthpop if grimes is 2 deep 4 u.
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This thread convinced me that every grimesfag is just a really dedicated shitposter
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>>73674149
Same
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>>73674130

Do you really come here with cookies on?

Hold on I'm just accessing your bank account...
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>>73673990
Yep
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>>73674020
fair enough. but why do i have a feeling the op tried really hard to dislike this album?
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>>73674130
Holy fuck are you broke!

No wonder you're so miserable...
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>>73674179
>>73674210
>pretending not to be a samefag with over 30 replies in the same thread
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>>73674149
>he believes this
>he posted his ugly mug on pic related
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>>73674245
kek
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Magical Pessimism
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>>73674128
>Grimes
>underground
wew
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>>73674205
Because you're probably an idiot.
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>>73674143
>how is it even possible that someone has a differing opinion to mine? he must like shitty music!
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>>73674326
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PLEASE REPLY WITH YOUR BANK INFORMATION AND WE WILL ROUTE YOU YOUR PRIZE RIGHT AWAY!
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>>73674367
>he was just pretending to be retarded
yeah, ok
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>>73674232
I just came here to drop some new gifs I made last night.

Opening your banking information and dropping a trojan on you, was just an added bonus.
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>>73674383e
Haha
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>>73671951
>>73674451
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>>73673438
>Maybe I'll listen to it again and change my mind, I doubt it.
What genres of music do you usually listen to?
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I only liked 2 of her songs, but that's just it.

Also, suck a dick, grimes fags.

t. Bjork fag
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>>73673830
THIS

Due to the culture of rampant contrarianism on this board, the only time you are going to see a huge majority here saying that they "like" something is when the thing in question isn't good enough to be worth hating. Likewise, the only time you are going to see a huge majority here saying that they "hate" something is when the thing in question IS good enough to be worth hating (because people throw rocks at things that shine because things that shine are easy to see.)

For an artist, being universally loved on /mu is a bad sign. Likewise being universally hated on /mu is a bad sign. However being simultaneously strongly loved AND strongly hated by /mu is a wonderful sign, since the size of that dichotomy itself is the closest thing this place has to offer to a true judgment of artistic value.

The proof that Grimes IS a great artist (insofar as /mu hive-mind opinion is concerned) lies in the fact that she has the POWER TO DIVIDE this place. Only the greatest artists can do that.
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>>73673957
see
>>73675776
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>>73674020
>maybe it's just not the kind of stuff he is into
Hence my question, found here >>73675720
My best guess is that he simply doesn't like pop music.
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>>73674074
>and I really enjoy synthpop
What synthpop artists do you typically listen to/enjoy?
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>>73675835
>maybe he doesn't like pop music
>he literally said that he loves pop music
grimes fans, everyone

>>73675776
yeah, but she's only being strongly loved by the 40 or so people that post in her general. as far as I can tell, outside of that general, it's either a passive dislike or neutrality, alongside the obvious haters in her threads. I don't like the generals, but I do like some of her music.
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>>73674149
>This thread convinced me that every grimesfag is just a really dedicated shitposter
That's because there really aren't all that many "grimesfags", as you call them. Most of the Grimes posters are actual fans. Or just regular /mu trolls/shiposters fishing for (You)s.
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>>73674161
see
>>73675927
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>>73675742
>idiot
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>>73674576
Fyi spamming threads is against /mu rules.
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>>73675927
>actual fans
that's what grimesfags are, mate. no one's denying that the grimesfags like grimes
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>>73675902
>he literally said that he loves pop music
Yes, but what kind? Mozart is pop music - technically speaking.
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>>73676010
synthpop, see >>73674074. did you read the thread before you posted?
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>>73675972
>grimesfags
no, you dumbass. grimes fans like grimes. grimesfags don't exist, except in your stupid mind.
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>>73676010
Let me guess, once he tells you his taste you're gonna take a giant shit on it?
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>this thread
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>>73675902
>outside of that general, it's either a passive dislike or neutrality
Anon, the mere mention of Grimes' name on /mu is often enough to keep a thread alive for an extra 100+ posts - if not all the way to bump limit. Doubt me? Go mention her somewhere (in a context that makes sense) and then see what happens.
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>>73676236
Yes, as the same 40 people duke it out

>>73676175
(You)
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>>73676094
>grimesfags don't exist
t. grimesfag
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>>73675972
>grimesfags
This, as per your precious 4chan's underage meme terminology for an overbearing asshole fan, is what is known as a "grimesfag":
>>73676094

This is a Grimes fan:
>>73674020

Capisce?
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>>73676031
see
>>73675851

>did you read the thread before you posted?
Did you?
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>>73676152
No. Someone else probably will, but I won't because I am not a troll.
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>>73676256
>as the same 40 people duke it out
How do you know it is always the same 40 people? Do you follow them around? And many people do you think tpyically post on /mu in any given day?
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>>73676401
what does your post mean? just because he doesn't reply to every post replying to him doesn't mean that he doesn't like synthpop

>>73676350
grimesfag = grimes fan
simple as that, similar to "beatlesfag" and millions of other descriptors for fans of an artist.
also
>you're underage if you use 4chan memes on 4chan
I suggest trying an alternative website
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>>73676415
Well I'm saying leave him the fuck alone. Hell, even I don't like particular "otherworldly" artists under the same genre.
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>>73676464
>just because he doesn't reply to every post replying to him
I think that the OP is perfectly capable of answering questions for him/herself desu.

>simple as that, similar to "beatlesfag" and millions of other descriptors for fans of an artist.
Yeah, if you're fourteen.

>you're underage if you use 4chan memes
4chan is an 18+ website, anon. You might wanna keep that in mind from this point forward since mods are pretty strict on that one rule's enforcement.
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>>73676530
>Well I'm saying leave him the fuck alone.
>stop trying to honestly talk about music on /mu
Why are you here again?
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>>73676583
>perfectly capable of answering questions for himself
You do realize that you asked your question after he left the thread, right? Why would you expect it to be answered or use it as to why you think he just "doesn't like pop"?

>Yeah, if you're fourteen
>18+ website
>It's underage because I say it is!
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>>73672962
>deserve to hear
>deserve to hear
>deserve to hear

shiggy diggy doo
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>>73676599
>honestly talk about music on /mu
Yeah, neither is OP.

Now let this thread die in obscurity.
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>>73676619
>Why would you expect it to be answered
Because it's a discussion thread, and that's what people do in discussion threads - discuss things with each other.

>Yeah, neither is OP.
Two wrongs don't make a right, anon.
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>>73677223
why do you include other people's posts while only responding to one? also, I didn't mean "why did you expect your question to be answered on /mu/", I meant "why would you expect your question to be answered by someone no longer ITT", dummy
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>>73677262
>why do you include other people's posts while only responding to one?
Pro-tip: It's called an oversight.

>why would you expect your question to be answered by someone no longer ITT
Are his posts no longer ITT?
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