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The Beatles were hard men

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>...the Beatles were hard men too. Brian Epstein cleaned them up for mass consumption, but they were anything but sissies. They were from Liverpool, which is like Hamburg or Norfolk, Virginia--a hard, sea-farin' town, all these dockers and sailors around all the time who would beat the piss out of you if you so much as winked at them. Ringo's from the Dingle, which is like the f***ing Bronx.
>The Rolling Stones were the mummy's boys--they were all college students from the outskirts of London. They went to starve in London, but it was by choice, to give themselves some sort of aura of disrespectability. I did like the Stones, but they were never anywhere near the Beatles--not for humour, not for originality, not for songs, not for presentation. All they had was Mick Jagger dancing about. Fair enough, the Stones made great records, but they were always s**t on stage, whereas the Beatles were the gear.

― Lemmy Kilmister, White Line Fever: The Autobiography
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>>73665930
John Lennon was definitely a hardman.
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liverpool is tame hes wrong. they used to be a skiffle band ffs
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>>73665930
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>>73666480

Post war Liverpool was pretty rough, though not in the middle/upper-class area of Woolton where Lennon etc lived, the post-war Liverpool-City slums and the likes of Kirkdale and (just north) Bootle docklands where where the real hard/desperate people lived

Pic related was a far cry from Lennons middle-class life

tl;dr the swinging 60's
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>>73665930
Birmingham was no walk in the park, either. That's where Black Sabbath and Judas Priest came from.
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>>73666480
I bet your think NYC was always full of Starbucks-drinking hipsters.
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hell be fine
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>>73666535
I fucking love pre yoko lennon.
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>>73666535
/ourfuckingguy/
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Hamburg Days
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>>73666535
What the fuck I love Lennon now
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>>73666330
Lennon was a wife beater, Hard men don't need to slap women around
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>>73666535
so this is the legendary British banter
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>>73666763
no surprise metal has strong roots in such an industrial area

i remember an interview where rob halford talks about sitting in the classroom and hearing the steel mill or w/e next door in operation, and the smoke would drift into the room

tony iommi cut off the tips of his fingers working in a sheet metal factory...
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>>73670069
Why did he do that? Was it part of the job?
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>>73670170
I get the same effect as a slap with a tilt of my head, you don't need to hit em
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>>73670069

If you haven't already you should read I Am Ozzy. He goes in to heavy detail about the area he grew up in.
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>>73670248
Wut?
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>>73666741
eraserhead
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>>73669765
yeah hamburg were the actual grind days desu
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>>73670170
it was an accident
why the fuck would he intentionally do that?
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>>73666763
and godflesh I think
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>>73665930
Lemmy knew his shit.
>>73666763
I always wanted to visit Birmingham for that very reason.
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>>73670069
>i remember an interview where rob halford talks about sitting in the classroom and hearing the steel mill or w/e next door in operation, and the smoke would drift into the room
Glenn Tipton said he worked in a factory in town and how much he hated getting up on a cold winter morning to go to work, and it motivated him to want to get his music career up and running so he'd never have to do this again.

Halford and KK Downing were living in a van and eating one sandwich a day for a while.
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>>73669990
>hard men don't slap women around

They do what they want, boy. They'll slap your shit, too I think.
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>>73666741
Ah, you didn't see people live like this in America by the 60s except in some parts of the South and Appalachia.
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>>73671499
Thought it might be a requirement of the job. Hard times and all that.
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>>73665930
>muh where are the real men :((
Lemmy deserved it desu
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>>73666535
It's just banter you pussy.
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>>73666763
>[said city] wasn't a walk in the park either

Pretty much everywhere in the UK except the rural countryside and the South East are all rough shit holes.
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>>73665930
>Beatles are hard men
>Made generic pop songs for teenage girls

Yeah, real tough guys
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>>73669990
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>>73671800
... have you ever worked a day in your life or even stepped outside?
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I'm the biggest Beatle fan there is, and I have tremendous respect for Lennon as an artist. But it's true: He was a violent man, and admitted as such openly. That's why he was so into peace. It was something (as someone given to aggression) he aspired to. That line in McCartney's song Getting Better, which goes "I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved . . ." was written by Lennon.
He didn't hide the fact that he was an abuser. He put it in songs, right there up front. So he wasn't actually a hypocrite. He fessed up to what he did.
But he wasn't just violent against women. According to some biographers, Lennon suffered feelings of extreme guilt when his friend Stu Sutcliffe died of a brain hemorrhage. Two weeks before he and Lennon had gotten into a fight and Lennon reportedly kicked him in the head with a steel-toed boot. (He always blamed himself for Sutcliffe's death at 23.) Lennon would also get into street fights. (Experts on the Beatles said that that was the big irony between the Stones and the Beatles. The public thinks of the Stones as "street-fighting men" when in reality Mick Jagger was a wimpy guy and a bookish business major, while Lennon was the actual roughneck who engaged in literal street fights.
But getting back to Lennon's abusiveness as it pertained to women...
The article overlooked an incident where Lennon slapped a lady journalist across the face in 1964. Reporter Larry Kane writes about it in his book. (He accompanied the Beatles on their first tour of America.) It required a lot of diplomacy and public relations skills from Brian Epstein to suppress the story.
(Even after the Beatles broke up, in the 1970s, Lennon struck another member of the paparazzi: a lady photographer named Mary Brenda Perkins.)
So Lennon had a hair-trigger temper, and he'd unleash on men, women, dogs, inanimate objects: anyone who was around.
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>>73671828
daddy issues m8?
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>>73673116
No. Have you? More fool you.
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