/prod/ general - afx cat edition

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>>73570249
>https://clyp.it/p1mnz4qo

Can I get some feedback on this? It's for a compilation album using their field recording samples. First time mixing it lofi, does it sound lofi enough?

>Made with MS20, Virus Access, in Renoise.

bumping this thread because the other one is garbage

>>73570271
https://clyp.it/psztojkz

Updated version, listen to this one.

https://clyp.it/x1czn3kv

i made a song out of samples from an episode of tales from the darkside. thoughts?

>>73570596
um its ok i dont love it but its cool

>>73570596
i think it might sound better with the drums in half time at some points? the bass synth at the end is pretty neat

>>73570596
>https://clyp.it/psztojkz
Kinda boring, doesn't evolve or do anything.

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>>73559119
>is it ok for no beats at all?

Yes it's essentially a a big software sampler that uses your computer as the processor and your hard drive for storing samples...so it's basically a midi controller that is set up really well for the software it uses. (All the knobs are already mapped to the software/sampler/vst instruments and effects).
The software (DAW) it's self is a cut down version of a daw that is based on scenes and patterns. So it's not so different from something like ableton I guess.
I don't really use beats in my music at all and never found it to be a problem.
What exactly do you mean by morphing one sound into another?
If you want to know more I'll try and explain how I use it a bit better?

Anyone know where I can pirate izotope ozone 7?

>>73570798
could someone help me with feedback on mixing and stuff please¿

Is Presonus Studio One 3 Artist any good as a DAW? Is there anything better that I can program drums in?I only ever used Ultrabeat in Logic when I was in college but I don't own a Mac so that's out of the question

>>73572267
reaper is a freebie

>>73571613
>>73570798
let the drums have some space man...... that beat gets so tiring, you don't need to constantly fill everything in

3 much verb dude. cut a lot with eq, gate some of the quicker parts (like that clave) side chain some of it (ghost)

obviously set up different sends

Anyone else associate sounds with colors when composing?
Like, I have sort of a notion of what makes a sound red, blue or yellow, and an idea of what makes a sound a lighter or darker tone, but in my mind it's perfectly clear. I'd have trouble explaining it, tho. If, for example, I wanted to ask how to make my guitar less "blue" and more "red", I'd have trouble explaining to someone else what sound I'm trying to get but I know exactly what I mean.

It's probably just autism.

>>73572952
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
(to a lesser degree it sounds like)
(reddit brings this up frequently.)

yeah i know exactly what you're talking about.
although, in analyzing my previous color associations i realize i've built them up with albums songs textures ec that somehow got mixed up with that color... so eh.

it's not that cool, it can just occasionally help to understand and see your song i guess

>>73573060
I don't see it as a tool or anything, it's more of a way of thinking.
I've always thought synesthesia is something more sensorial. I don't really imagine the color, it's more like "this is too blue and I want it to sound red". I guess it has to do with the energy associated to a certain color versus a sound.
I've always thought like this but I never thought about it before.

>>73572915
thanks for listening. Seems like some sound advice definitely should do something with the beat. pretty lazy with the drums and way too into reverb. what part are you saying i should sidechain?

I like it:

https://clyp.it/0xhkd3sa

>>73572915
Are there any free plugins to program drums in reaper?

>>73573578
It's nice. Those noise things are too loud in my opinion.

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Is the Seaboard Roli worth it? I mainly do film scoring work, so I'm quite interested for recording instruments with realistic expressions.

>>73574331
Overpriced meme. It's nice, but everything that can be done with this keyboard can be done in your DAW.

https://clyp.it/p3brjc5e

trying different kinds of drums. help

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Wow, the stuff you guys post sounds quite impressive. How do I become one of you?

>>73573578
Really nice. I just wish it was cleaner.

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https://instaud.io/private/a7f6612b97f24fb9508017f220b2c47826673889

>>73575246
Its kind of cool, but Im missing a bass track.

>>73575290
The bass is subtle in a lot of my tracks. I mix/master with some 1$ earphones.

>>73572915

I feel like Reaper is underrated, and I say this as a newbie graduating to it from NanoStudio recently. It's quite straight forward and simple but with an insane amount of depth and potential, and has a ton of great documentation (manual/videos/books/forums all available through their website), and all this for "free". It's fully customization so you can set up your workflow however you want once you wrap your mind around how it works, and it looks pretty sleek too.

Even if you buy a license it's super cheap, $60 for a discounted license, $225 for a commercial license (which basically means you'd have to be making OVER $20k USD a year). I just use all free VST's and samples that I find or create myself, tons of great free shit out there. Torrent shit if you really need to.

I'm trying to make a point of learning and making better and more professional sounding stuff for free or as cheap as possible.

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Anyone found this yet?

>>73575085
1. get software and instruments you need for what you want to do

2. get books (make sure they're recommended, educational materials that don't segue properly or dont teach stuff in the right order are cancer) on music theory, sound design, mixing, turn off your internet and read them including all the manuals for your software

3. listen to lots of music, learn how to play songs and recreate them in your DAW and try and get the same sounds in order to build up a sound palette/vocab

4. try to create stuff that you enjoy listening to

remember the learning process is painful at times and you have to push through boredom and drudgery to git gud but that feeling isn't as bad as regretting not doing it earlier a few years down the line

>>73575742
Its capable for sure, but most of the love is for it being so cheap lol

Nobody would go for it if it costed as much as ableton for example

https://clyp.it/3thivelf

current WIP, how does it sound? too samey? does it need a bassline or works well without one? any feedback its appreciated even if its pure hate

feedback on this quick thing I just made?

https://clyp.it/qzfi02k0

I think it has potential to go somewhere and I'd like some critiques.

>>73575866

The reason why shit like Ableton costs so much is because it comes packaged with a ton of instruments and tools and sounds and shit. Reaper doesn't which is mainly why it's so cheap, it still has all of the functionality. Better, even, since Ableton restricts you to it's workflow but Reaper is completely customizable and can be changed to fit whatever your needs are. Takes more time and effort to learn, not as easy to just start up and start making music, but you're rewarded heavily for it.

>>73575986
>...

I feel like you don't know what you're talking about

>>73574331
played one in a shop once, the keys feel like those mousepad wrist rest things. i didnt like it

>>73571416
http://fresh-stuff4u.com/izotope-ozone-7-advanced-v7-01-win-mac-full-free-download/

https://audioz.download/software/win/128147-download_izotope-ozone-7-advanced-v701-incl-emulator-r2r.html

Use these two sites when looking for /prod/ stuff to pirate. Just keep in mind that sometimes they get removed, so you might need to use Google, but other than that they're the most legit I know.

>>73572952
>>73573180
I have exactly the same thing.
Is it actually synesthesia or it's just association of the color and textures of things/instruments with the sounds they emit?
Because in my cae they always match.

>>73576082

I feel like you're a faggot and suck dick on the daily.

See anon, you're not the only one who can just throw random baseless statements out there.

>>73576833
Thanks, mate!

>>73577016
It's okay that you don't understand ableton lol no need to get all defensive

>>73577116

Feel free to make an actual argument any time. See, I made a statement and explained my reasoning, hey you know what I'll even help you start your next post!

>I believe Ableton doesn't cost so much because of the instruments and features it comes with compared to Reaper which is basically a blank slate. Ableton costs so much in my opinion because...

See this is how we have what's called a "discussion" instead just you being a faggot. You've brought nothing to the table thus far except the equivalent of NUH-UH!

>>73577026
You're welcome

>>73577284
Why are you splerging out

>>73577376

Forget I said anything, man. But you're the reason why this board is dying.

>>73577644
Bitch plix I'm one of like five guys who actually gives meaningful advice on these shitty clyps

I literally run /prod/

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>it sounds great on headphones and shit on monitors

>>73574701
>everything that can be done with this keyboard can be done in your DAW.
The point is that you can play it, though. I don't see how someone could be this fucking dense.

>>73577901
You done goodeded

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https://instaud.io/private/6891194eca5e7bb26f12361b6cb02c427d59b50d

>>73574815
V chill, sounds polished. I like your mixing.
>>73575957
I like the general idea. Maybe pull down the dissonant metallic drone in the background a bit, I feel like it clashes with the arpeggios too much.
>>73575964
Love it, it's a minimalistic composition but it works well. Be careful extending it into a full track so it doesn't get too repetitive.

https://clyp.it/uxxdhspw
Still working on composition, no mixing (808s ear rape warning). Keep it or trash it?

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I'm just starting out and I want to start watching tutorials about the basics, but for the next few months I'll mostly have time when I'm away from the computer, so does anyone have some good beginner tutorials that don't need a big screen to see what the guy's doing, so I can watch them on my phone?

I'm using Ableton, so preferably stuff that's not exclusive to other DAWs.

Thank you in advance.

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>>73578489
gib feedback pls

>>73574331
25 keys seems like it would be extremely hard to do film scores with. I was considering buying one of these as a modular controller, but I have no clue how well it would work with my midi/cv converter.

>>73578831
>25 keys seems like it would be extremely hard to do film scores with
That's why I have another controller with 88. I would just use this for certain melodies and shit.

>>73578649
>>73578489
boring sounds cheesy in the middle.... too many random samples that sound like you're just trying to fill in space with no purpose

>>73578649
>>73580037
sorry :(

clyp.it/up2psqjr
posted this on a previous production thread and got some good feedback. I've been working on it more and this is what I have now, is it good? Need to mix more but how is it compositionally?

https://clyp.it/auzcqm25

My samples sound like shit. They're too quiet, their not huge or impactful. What am I doing wrong?

>>73580496
... turn them up?
Compress
Use envelopes in sampler
Reverb

>>73580496
layer em up boy

>>73580683
I don't know how to do that. What is that?
>>73580591
what's an envelope?

These are both dumb questions, but I just wanna know this shit for sure and all the videos on the internet are too unspecific. no bully

https://instaud.io/12Ns

Pls help

>>73581295
Layering is when you layer multiple samples to compensate for weaknesses in the original sample. IE you have a weak kick with good top end so you high pass it then play something simple like an 808 kick under it, or if you have a kick with no clear transient so you play an impulse/click with it.

>>73581603
what about the samples that aren't kicks and snares, like vocals and shit?

>>73581728
Then the problem becomes something you cant answer or solve with a simple quick fix.

https://clyp.it/lcxyut4w hows this sounding so far?

>>73578640
The OP is full of useful videos.

https://clyp.it/3rpssh2b

anything you would change?

>>73585055
Work on the humanization. It sounds very robotic.
Hats too loud for my taste.
It's a bit monotone. If you're not gonna add a lead or a voice, I'd suggest variation.

>>73585091
i just figured out how to make a full length track, a big leap for me. variation is something i usually do a better job of. thank you for your input

>>73580037
>>73580068
Nah, you're right. The samples were distributed blindly so that's why they sound so random, but it really is too boring to salvage.

Well well well up with you

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>>73571279
>What exactly do you mean by morphing one sound into another?

Thanks for replying. I'll be doing a lot of drone so layering and side-chaining long samples would be what I'd be wanting to do. I thought there maybe limitations for that with Maschine. I'll probably end up getting the Studio one. Sweet set up you have. I have a Privia keyboard, Reveal monitors and Scarlett 2i4 running ableton. I'd imagine I wouldn't use the scenes. I don't with ableton, just the arrangement view. Do you do finished mixes on Maschine, or take it to a DAW after you've played around?

>>73584881
I've already watched all those that don't require a big screen.

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Is there any way to remove noise from a recording completely?
I'm trying to record an electric guitar with pic related and it gives exactly the low quality sound I want, but also a really strong interference noise that ruins the whole thing.

>>73578489
>>73578649
oy m8, its gone

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Describe to me the process of producing a mellow rock album, like Grace by Jeff Buckley

How many steps does it take?
Also do note that too much compression will completely ruin this because the album uses alot of volume dynamics

>>73587459
thats so overproduced, I cant believe dads are into this sound. got that "the x remastered" sound with heavy as fuck panning and every track way over-isolated and clean

my bad attempt at making dark synthwave. Beyond the technical problem (sucking at making good sounding synths, sound mastering, no clue how to making distortion sound good), I really struggle with writing, always end up making something really repetitive, any attempt at bringing variation ends up clashing really hard with the rest. If you know of any good resource that is useful for learning proper composition, I'm all ears.
https://clyp.it/vfserdgi

>>73587760
It's not overproduced imo.

>>73587888
hey, my bad m8. I was really pissy, I have had a cup of coffee.

>>73577889
>I'm autistic
>pls like me

>>73587358
could be the wires

>>73587805
speaking from personal experience, the best resource to learn composition and a lot of other skills is try to remake your favorite songs, you'll pick up tons of shit during the process that you never did while just listening to music

when I trigger a track in ableton with the launchpad it also makes a piano sound; this thing is driving me fucking crazy, does anyone knows how to prevent this?

>>73589693
do you have other midi controllers in use?
in ableton preferences, what do you have turned on for the inputs/output of the launchpad?

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>>73589754
I have only one controller in use; this is the situation: when I trigger the first track (the one on the right with the midi control assigned), it also trigger another sound. I unplugged and replugged the controller, opened a new track and did it again. Now it triggers a drum hit instead of the piano note but the problem persist

>>73589897
holy shit I'm a fucking dumb moron, I didn't noticed that thing in the middle, I deactivated it and now everything works fine; thanks anyway

how to make it so 808 doesn't bury the rest of my beat?

i added eq and soundgoodizer so i could hear go boom in my headphones but now it just drowns everything out. do i need to turn them off?

how to mix 808s? i am confuse

>>73589964
>soundgoodizer
There's your problem.

I tried to order ableton intro yesterday and the payment did not go through is this because my bank did not recognise this as a legitamite purchase since it ableton is based out of berlin germany.

what am I missing when I didn't pay up?

>>73590219
Dude.
www.thepiratebay.com

>>73590095
Bullshit.
The soundgoodizer is made to make my sounds sound good, so it can't be it that makes them sound bad.

Serious answers only please.

>>73590219
>>73590266

Also see this:
>>73576833

>>73590282
bait/10

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>>73574815
Updated this..

https://clyp.it/2xewno4n

Need fresh ears.. How does the mix sound?
Any advice on how to blend in the drums better?

>>73590346
I know right?
How can he think he knows better than the FL Studio developers?
Fucking absurd.

https://clyp.it/1vbiyhka
Any feedback?

I'm mostly concerned about the tempo. I first recorded this song at 100bpm a few months ago but I feel like it's too fast now.

Question, I record on analog and get a very full sound through the headphones and on the mixdown deck aswell. but once I dump it into the DAW I lose alot of that same volume and punch. how do I preserve it inside the DAW? its being recorded at 24bit/96khz

>>73590703
we need to know more about your setup, what do you convert with and so on

>>73590703
move to germany

>>73590703
normalize the track at the DAW lol

trying to mix this song again
is this sounding lively and rockin'?
https://55chan.org/mu/src/1498497231442.ogg

>>73590773
I use an older Roland UA-1ex interface bc it has RCA ins and was designed to transfer tapes at high sample rates so it works best to run the output of my stereo Mixdown tape deck.

>>73591023
before recording into the DAW or after?

>>73590773
Reason is my DAW btw

>>73589897
why the fuck do you have the launch key selected 6 times in the control surface menu?

>>73591221
after

>>73591636
well heres the thing. its a single stereo track. I got a track fader, master fader, master compressor, M Class equalizer/maximizer/compressor. Which ones would you use? and 2:1 compression works better for an entire stereo track right?

>>73587358
If your cables are old that could be a problem. that usb device looks really small and cheap so it is not surprising to me you're getting noise or artifacts. Try a better recording device maybe.

>>73590703
Have you checked the level of the final track at the daw?

>>73578831
why not get the arturia keystep? it has both midi and cv

>>73591736
I don't think it's the cables cause it sounds practically clean when I plug the headphones.
I like using shitty cheap devices like that. It gives a really thin, distorted sound which is very unique, but this piece of crap is way too bad to pull it off.
I thought I could phase cancel by recording the buzz, but it's practically impossible to record the same buzz twice as it's not a steady signal. Guess I'll keep buying trash until I find what I'm looking for.

>>73578831
>I was considering buying one of these as a modular controller, but I have no clue how well it would work with my midi/cv converter.
I've looked into this too and you'll need that expert sleepers usb/midi module in order to make it work. Roli even has instructions on how to do it.

>>73588173
?

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>>73585437
>I'll be doing a lot of drone so layering and side-chaining long samples would be what I'd be wanting to do. I thought there maybe limitations for that with Maschine.

I don't think that will prove problematic, as far as I know you can use long samples and Layering them should be fine too.

>Do you do finished mixes on Maschine, or take it to a DAW after you've played around?

I originally planned on using Maschine for just sketches and ideas and then exporting it all to Logic (which I used previous to Maschine) but since getting Maschine I just use that. It has a few limitations compared to something like Logic but I kinda like not having a whole shitload of functions and find a slightly more basic setup is a more creative way for me to work. I usually mix as I go along and the mixer section is fine for me for that Tbh though I never really finish anything these days as I'm not all that into writing and getting stuff finished. If I were I'd probably mix in Maschine and then export the audio and master it in Ozone.

>>73592270
is this your setup, m8?

>>73592317
Yes mate that's my setup

>>73592270
great setup
props for using an actual mixer

what are those two rack units that look similar to each other?

>>73592401
>great setup
Thanks

>props for using an actual mixer
It's a no brainier for me that's a whole lotta sliders and knobs to tweak and I don't fancy doing that with a mouse, besides it fun as fuck jamming out on a mixer

>what are those two rack units that look similar to each other?
they are samplers an Emu ESi32 and an ESI4000 I also have another ESi32. That's 5 samplers if you include Maschine!

What instruments does /prod/ play and how well?

i really hate the built in drums in ableton, what should i use? i dont care about genre really, but for one id actually like some realistic drum kits./ racks

>>73592482
I can play the computer pretty well now

>>73592482
I play the guitar at a decent level and I can play the piano to some degree.
I don't care much about technique, tho, I mostly use the instruments to compose.

>>73592498
Try the native instrument kits, I don't really use real drums but I got the "west Africa" drums with komplete and spent a whole weekend banging out shamanic drum riddims. I'd image the real drum kits sound just as good

>>73592498
Some anon shared this a bunch of threads ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drumkits/comments/4lnwr4/18gb_of_top_producer_kits/
I haven't bothered searching for drums since.

Man the deadmau5 master class is pretty crap so far, half way through it and really theres nothing to take away from it.

>>73591900
I've never played a keystep, but I'm not really big on aftertouch on traditional keyboards. It feels like I'm gonna snap the keys when I press down on them. I thought about the qunexus, but the seaboard seems more playable.
>>73592221
I was looking into it a bit more from the original post. It looks like you can connect it to other modules in single channel mode, but you lose functionality. I'll probaly email them on it.

>>73592482
guitar bass keyboard vocals cello synths etc
i'm better than you

>>73592605
is it all good..? over a gig....

>>73592482
guitar - classical as main instrument, studied at conservatory
piano - second instrument at conservatory
drums - played for 14 years, 10 with lessons
also I'm a shit singer but I can nail intonation so I'm not completely useless in any choral context

>>73591889
I do try to monitor levels. but most my recordings sit around -16 to -12 Db and all need level and volume adjustments

>>73592778
>is it all good
Of course not. It's a big ass library. A lot of it is shit, but it's got enough good stuff to cover 99% of your drum needs.

>>73592482
Learned piano when I was young, but never kept up with practicing.
I suck at chords, and have forgotten nearly every song I've ever learned. This is about as good as I get now :/

https://clyp.it/aj34le3h

>>73592482
tuba - like shit, 4 years of wasted "study"
piano - alright, i like to just wander when i play
e. guitar - still a beginner and dont play a lot because of time constraints.

Any good vsts for making noise and droning sounds?

>>73592482
i can play the guitar pretty well
https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/confortavelmente-entorpecido

can someone give feedback on this mix?

https://55chan.org/mu/src/1498502237810.ogg

>>73592957
sorry mr taco but this sounds pretty shit, and dont post sound cloud

>>73593039
hey i aint mexican and it sounds good

>>73592957
it's all covers.................................................


>>73592802
uhhh what packs in there did you like/stick out then?

>>73593292
The 9th Wonder sound kit is the one I use the most. It's the best one in there.

Other than that, I don't use packs in particular, but specific samples from random packs that I keep coming back to. The cool thing about having so many samples is that when I need a specific kind of cymbal, kick, snare or whatever I surf through the packs and there's always something close enough to what I'm looking for.

>>73590355
I like it overall but the snare could be louder.

>>73593292
you mean the other uploads?
these arent covers
https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/untitled
https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/jammin
https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/asdasd

>>73593588
stop posting your fucking soundcloud everywhere fuck off

can anyone suggest anything to add to this track i'm working on? got off to a good start but I've hit a brick wall.

https://clyp.it/fuydegyj

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>>73592270
I just got the software for 2.4 and its practically a DAW. I can't see what else I need apart from the hardware ha.

Try and finish your stuff bro, you can do it.

>>73593766
what the fuck i'm replying to anon's comment

>>73592712
Try Matthew Weiss, he helped me out with his EQ series. Now I'm onto the compression one. The only downside is his dog keeps popping into his studio and its distracting

https://youtu.be/iioDUyYb4Fs?t=41

what i need to record a CD of guitar music in my room, by myself

>>73594114
literally nobody asked for your soundcloud............

>>73594424
.............. o____o

>>73593960
Don't like those noise bursts. Kept waiting for the bass' lowpass filter to open up and reveal a nasty harmonically rich sound. After the drop and the kick comes back in put in a vocal sample or something to fill in the space left from not having the hihats going. I don't think it's a good decision to have the relatively high intensity kick + shuffling hihats in the beginning only to remove them after the drop unless you're going to have another build up to get the energy back because the relative energy level is like high, low, medium, high in this and I think you'll want to go medium, low, high unless you like it being kind of lowkey.

Make another patch, like a saw with a little bit of FM from an osc an octave down or up whatever you like, and fade that into the pattern here and there as a buildup / transition using automation on a lowpass filter and amplitude, maybe also modulate the FM level.

You could maybe add a syncopated pluck or chord on the offbeat on the fourth bar on the third beat and then another one sixteenth before the next offbeat and add an echo and sidechain it all. Think of it like percussion, like a bongo accent.

>>73594424
>a guitar
>a CD
>a your room
>your self
>some sort of recording stuff

>>73594459
nice, thanks a lot

>>73594454
i posted the link to a song on soundcloud, not to my profile
he complained that my soundcloud profile has only covers
so i pointed out the originals that i have uploaded

>>73594743
no one wants you soundcloud shit in the first place
fuck off now

I want to get into synths, and right now I'm thinking about either getting an iPad with the Korg Gadget app and a iRig Keys Pro or Uhe Diva for my desktop, and down the line I'll probably get a Korg MS-20 or something.

Do any of you peeps use an iPad for music production? Is it worth it? I've read that you can export your projects from Korg Gadget as Ableton Live project files and also use the synths as VSTs in Ableton, and it sounds right up my alley.

ive had ableton now for a few months and i still cant make a song. i cant find any decent tutorial. maybe im looking in the wrong places?!?! how did you guys learn?

>>73594786
Are you just getting into using synths for the first time, or you're already good with them and want to get some serious ones?

>>73594786
i highly rate Diva easily my favorite plugin

>>73594861
Go on AudioZ and download those tutorials that show you how to make a song from start to finish, and copy them

>>73581594
Anyone pls help

>>73594861
i learned a heap from this guys channel start here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj0-W75RL3AS_psDlWBqu1w?&ab_channel=SadowickProduction

once you start to understand more the knowledge swoballs and more complicated stuff starts to make sense. just constantly watch as many tutorials on youtube and always practice the stuff you learn. dont expect to pick it all up overnight either

>>73594954
thank you ive seen this guy before. ill watch some of his tutorials

>>73594786
i would get diva

>>73594763
someone hurt you?

>>73594868
I've downloaded the trials of some synths like Dva to try to learn how to dial in sounds and things like that but it's pretty confusing, that's why I want to start with soft synths since they're cheaper to get started with

>>73595132
i think the best synth to learn on is serum cos it has a really neat well organised UI and you get a clear visual representation of the oscilators, filter, envelopes and LFOs

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>>73595132
Synth 1

>>73594743
This fucking guy

>>73595338
Already tried it, it's a goddamn clusterfuck

>>73595501
what is it?

>>73589964
volume levels, most important thing

>>73590656
sounds meh, tempo isn't an issue here

>>73592482
piano mostly, I'd say I can play anything I want if I put my mind to it

>>73592498
git sum samples boi

>>73592950
not so much about the synth honestly, if you learn basic synthesis you'll be able to make sounds in any synth

>>73593014
perfect mix

>>73593960
more percussion, plucks, a melody? honestly just fuck around and see what fits

>>73594424
a DAW and some plugins

>>73594861
finding you way around the DAW shouldn't help you make tracks, it should just help you know what MIDI, audio and automation are and how they work. if you wanna find out how to make stuff you gotta learn some composition and sound design, also how to mix your stuff

>>73594424
It depends what type of guitar you're playing and what type of music you're making.

>>73595980
both electric and acoustic
instrumental music with guitars, bass, programmed drums and maybe some little vstis
my main concern is how to get recorded audio of low noise and good quality. good enough for a cd and not just some internet amateurish mixes like i already do
and i dont know what other concerns i should have

>>73596081
good room acoustics, no outside noise
good microphones with good placement
good preamps/interface
that's what you need

Mfw no feedback

>>73596345
patch the output to the input

>>73596105
so thats enough gear for a clean recording
i found a nice room at a cultural center i will try to record there

>>73596361
I meant on my demo on here

>>73596361
>>73596393
Fuckin kek

>>73595132
Get Sylenth1 and learn synthesis with Syntorial.
Then get Massive, practice with it, get the Syntorial lessons for it, then get Serum, Diva, or whatever you want.

Seeing as his album is dropping in 3-4 days, what's /prod/'s thoughts on lapalux, and I guess I'll ask if anyone has advice on making samples punch through so nicely in busy tracks like this. Whenever I mix my drums always end up only punching through on the high end and that sounds horrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCk5e3utk8

>>73596475
>>73595132
skip massive just get serum instead. everything you can do in massive you can do in serum.

>>73594861
>i cant find any decent tutorial

https://www.google.co.nz/search?client=opera&q=ableton+tutorial&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=ableton+tutorial&tbm=vid

>open ableton
>instantly feel depressed
>don't know where to start
>mess around with synths for 30 mins
>close

How do I stop this? I learned the DAW about 3 months ago but have barely had any motivation to do anything. I sometimes get a nice little loop going but have no idea how to develop it.

>>73595556
if synth1 is inaccessible to you then serum and sylenth1 won't be much easier

what's your issue with it anyway

Don't be a pussy, it's as easy as I–vi–IV–V. That's C–Am–F–G in C major for all you EDM producers.

>>73597387
>That's C–Am–F–G in C major for all you EDM producers.
kek

>>73597256
You're feeling overwhelmed by the infinite possibilities available to you. Set restrictions for yourself and get in the habit of finishing things. For example: I am going to write something in the key of Cm at 130bpm and it will be 3 minutes long and I'll use this synth. Anything like that. Just make it a habit to finish things and grow. Your songs will probably suck for a while but you'll develop habits.

>>73597256
maybe write on a different instrument

which can mean a drum machine instead of a piano roll even

tfw you add the distortion

https://clyp.it/oxdh4cfo

>>73597692
discipline is for talentless hacks

>>73597256
>but have no idea how to develop it.


Has it occured to you that you aren't a musician you fat piece of shit? Just because you hear a techno song and think 'that sounds easy I could do that', well you can't, take up pottery.

>>73597387
>roman numeral notation

>>73598022
>I'm being obnoxious on the internet because I'm insecure and have nothing of value to say

>>73598022
Talk le shit post le clyp

>>73595815
>sounds meh
What can I do to make it sound less "meh"?
I know the guitar sounds kinda shitty but I'll get a mic soon so I don't wanna waste much time on stuff I'll re-record in a few weeks, but I'm set on the melody and structure.

>>73597256
This happens to me all the time. I think it happens to most musicians. I think the problem is tunnel vision and not being able to get into a creative state of mind because my mind is too fixated on one thing, then it gets worse because I become upset about it. What sometimes helps me overcome it is experimenting with different ways to lay down ideas. like instead of trying to start with the bass or drums i'll start with a random sound repeating every beat or two, I will basically try anything i can to change my perspective, sometimes even try to forget that i'm trying to create a song so i can approach from a different angle.

Another thing you have to consider is that at some point you need to approach the piece like you are at work trying to get a job done and not all of it is about just having fun. you wont get anything done if you don't think like this. I usually try to think treat it that way after I've laid down an idea which I'm confident about.

Check out Steven Kotler too, he talks about how to induce creative states of mind and how they work on joe rogans podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNobzrnSRMc

>>73595815
I'm learning synthesis but I'd like something I can use in the meanwhile.

>>73597692
>overwhelmed by the infinite possibilities

stop this fucking meme plz -________________-
restrictions can be cool but not everybody has trouble handling this shit like you do

>>73597803
lol

>>73598043
>he doesn't know what they mean

>>73597751
this is a decent tune but the distortion and drum sounds pretty amateurish... and muffled

like you could have made a rough sounding patch that sounds much better

https://clyp.it/0n5fcuzd

Why does it sound loud and punchy in my DAW, but when uploaded to clyp.it it sounds like a wet rag?

>>73600123
that kick already has too much PUNCH though..............

>>73600033
Why are you such a faggot?

>>73600123
whats in your master?
sounds pretty loud on my speakers, the 808 is a bit to heavy actually its ear tickling

>>73600211
Hmmm okay, I'll try and lower the level so I can bring everything else up.
>>73600243
Master is C4 Multiband, API 2500 comp, Pugchild 670, L2 Limiter, and Ozone 5

>>73600225
i'm sorry i didn't love your song, I just think you can make it better man

https://clyp.it/ps1wado3

>>73600342
yeah i dunno what you could add to your bus, but it sounds like youd benefit from adjusting the mix to allow room for everything. the low ends are too overpowering at the moment. the snare sounds a little bit too far back in the mix too, maybe try doing something to bring it closer

Here's something I was working on a month ago (first track I've made in a really long time). Should I continue working on this and clean it up or just start working on a new track, honest thoughts
https://clyp.it/1jn1iwau

>>73597387
>mfw when it actually works

>>73602015
jesus christ go learn some theory

>>73601429
did you sample mongolian throat singing? it just sounds like you slowed it down for the most part. sounds bloody awful at the minute mark

>>73602033
It's actually a synthesizer kek but yeah the higher notes do sound pretty bad, just need to lower them a bit

Can I get some help with effects over delays on Abelton?

I have a part in a song where there is spoken word. Its 2 words. I want the first 2 words to be normal, then the I want the delayed words to start to get affected by a VST effect I put on.

When I do this, it seems the voice mangler can ONLY effect the initial sound, not the delays. I want it the other way around.

For example I want it to go:

Hello there.....hElLo tHeEe.....hELlO tHErE......HELLO THERE


Is there something basic I am missing? When using guitar delays for example on my amplifier, every delay can be altered by a reverb or whatever. On Abelton, its only the first words I can seem to morph, not the delays.

Please help a stupid person out.

>>73602761
Use automation.

>>73602797
i do...and it does nothing. at all.

I try to automate the delays. The delays dont automate.

I want the delays to automate. It wont. The desired effect only works on the initial words. Am I doing something wrong? Is it a send and return thing?

>>73602832
I would just duplicate the loop, put short delay on it then automate the feedback or wetness up as the loop plays. The delays will automate if you look up 'your daw how to automate'

>>73602940
This is what I plan to do next.

I just don't understand how a pretty advanced, industry standard DAW doesn't have this capability. I can see why you wouldn't want to do it either, but the simple option for both would be nice.

im using cthulhu arperggiator but when i try to record the output to a different track its not recording the arpeggiation but only the base notes. ableton

>>73570249
that AFX cat picture is album cover worthy

>>73602974
>I just don't understand how a pretty advanced, industry standard DAW doesn't have this capability.

It does. You just haven't worked it out yet

>>73603016
So can you tell me how to do it or send me a resource that deals with this problem?

>>73603052
WHICH DAW IS IT

>>73603052
If you're into insane feedbacking delay try the mfm2. I don't think anyone on the planet has bothered to master it but the presets are good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnDU6i0aFX8

>>73603052
Actually the Glitch vst might be up your alley too

>>73602761
Send the channel with the spoken words on it to a delay with 100% wetness on the delay. Then add you chosen effect after the delay. So your normal spoken words will hit your master bus, then your delayed words will be delayed and also effected how you wish.

>>73603060
READ THE OP BEFORE GIVING SUCH A COCKY OPINION.

>>73603165
thanks, appreciate it.

>>73602974
jesus stfu and learn before you criticize

>>73602832
>>73602761
>>73602940
PRO TIP 4 U GUISE

use affects racts for parallel effects instead of sends/duplicated tracks for this kind of shit

map whatever to a macro, v easy,looks nicer and saves space

>>73602832
>>73602761
you put the delay on a return track, then put the VST on the return track so it only effects the wet signal of the delay

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Are analog synthesizers a meme?

i need help, i made a song that sounds fine in my headphones but when i play it in the car, it sounds like shit, i want the vocals to be heard in the front of my car while the bass sits in the back if that makes sense and im not sure how to do so on fl studio

Has anybody in this thread used an Arturia Keylab with Ableton? I' having a lot of trouble trying to figure out how to use analog lab as a vst

>>73603753
Nope.

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here's some chill shit i made that i'll eventually rap on, lemme know what i could fix
http://clyp.it/1as2qprw

>>73603753
It depends on what type of music you want to make and what "analog" synthesizer it is.

>>73603942
isn't that just a midi controller? it should work as soon as you plug it into your computer

>>73603922
thats just mixing, and this is why you dont mix on headphones

>>73603922
learn how to mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjOdqZFvhY

Is music theory essential to starting to produce music?
I haven't taken a music class since high school band but want to start making music
Want to make sure I'm starting where i should
Should i just hop in flstudio and start fucking around?

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>>73604674
if you want to make good music yes, but then you have retards that can make "edm" by playing one note and putting an arp and lfo on it, so its not necessary always. its like in art, proper training elevates you to the next lvl but you can still make a buck with tumblr tier art. pic related cost $20 for example

>>73604674
In my opinion the ideal is to have a notion of it. Knowing how scales work, song structure and basic stuff in general. More than that kinda gets in the way.
It depends on what kind of music you wanna make, too. There are some retards who make great punk rock or hip hop out of pure intuition, but you're not writing a symphony without in-depth knowledge.

>>73604694
>>73604725
Want to work on instrumental hip hop or r&b type stuff
I'll go refresh myself on basics, thanks

>>73604674
Yes but you have to remember that when people say music theory they don't mean anything like music theory. They mean something you can "learn" in 3 minutes off a youtube channel.

>>73604811
just work on drum theory then.

>>73604820
music "theory" is such a blurred line anyway but those who says its detrimental to electronic music are idiots.

How do you like these clipping drums?

https://clyp.it/kfmflnyx

I don't ever post in these threads but I feel like I should in an effort to spread some possibly helpful/corny/non-musical advice. I only want to inspire. Forgive me if what I say comes off dumb or weird or maybe even insulting.

I've been doing this for a long time. There's always some new shit bugging me. I'm a pretty bitter person, but I'm only bitter because I expect more from people. I've been browsing /mu/ for nearly a decade, on and off. I've been doing "production" longer, and generally making music for all my life. Everybody at some point ends up adopting stupid habits and beliefs, even me. Please understand that I'm not attempting to call anybody out. What I'm saying is all very general.

For me, integrity is the most valuable asset a musician can have. If you make an effort to retain your integrity you'll ultimately be happier in what you do. So many people hurt themselves creatively by getting caught up in the worlds of others. Avoid doing this.

Musicians like to set a lot of stupid rules for themselves. Guitarists are a prime example of this. I love guitar, I really do, but too many people get caught up in the politics of it. Use what you like. Screw everybody else. Don't compare yourself to artists before you. Don't get locked in tradition. People don't always see it but this is almost as bad in the synthesizer world. Personally, I've found that even though I enjoy complex/"deep" machines some of my favorites have been very simple. Use what you enjoy using and/or what helps you reach your vision.

Stop getting so caught up in definitions. If you focus so much on genre and tropes you'll keep yourself from honest expression. Knowledge is one thing but please don't sit down with the intent of making something directly in the vein of whatever. It's not worth it. Just let it come naturally.

>>73604912
Seems fairly obvious to me friendo.

>>73604875
Good stuff anon.

>>73604912
I agree, but regarding the integrity part, sometimes you have to choose between either not making music at all (or close to it), or compromising your integrity (even if just a little) in order to be able to make music for a living (instead of having to spend most of your life doing something else to survive, and having too little time to make your music).

What would you do in that situation?

>>73604912
Tools are interesting. I'm a bit of a hoarder. I honestly consider selling a lot of my gear quite frequently. Everybody has their own path. Sometimes that path will change daily. Sometimes I'll work with a terribly complex rig and other times I'll focus solely on one machine. Do whatever works for you. Don't listen to what others say you should be doing. Don't become obsessed with somebody else's process. Manual's are nice to have around and sometimes I'll sit and read an entire one but the best way to bond with a machine is to really sit down with it. Manual's won't offer comfort. Only knowledge.

Criticism is important in ways but if you're being completely true to yourself don't take all of it to heart. Most people will not understand your vision. This is alright. Just keep doing what you do. Don't be afraid to reach out for help if you're unable to meet your goal though. Learning is always important.

Don't get caught up on attention. Promoting your music like it's a business is fine and all. I don't do it but it's a hustle for some. All I'm saying is don't make a ton of shirts when nobody knows who you are and constantly post on social media about your upcoming EP. I see a lot of bands posting teasers of unfinished tracks. I'm not really against that. Of course, if this is your vision it's whatever. I'm not really saying anything with this one. It can just seem disingenuous.

Some circles love giving back pats, which is fine. Support is nice. You should prioritize honesty though, even if your peers think you're a dick. They'll at least go home knowing someone doesn't think what they did was perfect and may consider working harder.

Don't get caught up on "cool".

>>73604933
Yeah, it's all obvious stuff but I feel like it's important to keep it in mind. I'm no authority though. These are just my thoughts. Sometimes I think I'm an idiot.

>>73604971
I should put a disclaimer: this is not advice for career minded people. Ha. I've made money off my art but not much. I've never made it a goal though. Personally I'm not comfortable with the idea. I would rather leave my art uncompromised. I respect it though.

>>73570249
think im not gonna do drums at all and skip using 4/4 beats coz that shit is fucking done to death

all pop is 4/4 and goes from 100-130bpm, i dont wanna do more of that braindead shit

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>>73604912
Thanks man, i needed that right now.

>>73604983
Why did I keep putting an apostrophe in manuals? My brain is fried. That's obvious from my ranting.

>>73604983
>Don't listen to what others say you should be doing
This advice always blows my mind. So, if I shouldn't listen to what others say I should be doing, then I should disregard that advice as well and go back to listening to what others say I should be doing or what.

>>73604992
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that for some people making music as a career is the only way to make music at all.
If you were in that situation, would you rather make music that's somewhat different than what you'd make if you could just do whatever you wanted, or spend your life working a non-music job and only make music on some weekends or something like that?

>>73605014
That only applies to people who are already good enough to choose their own path.
If you're a beginner who's still improving on the basics, Dunning-Kruger would have you only say "fuck the haters, my music is flawless" and never improve on anything, obviously.

>>73604983
I feel like if you're just doing it for your own gain and enjoyment, thinking about looking cool don't even enter the fucking picture to begin with. Like someone said one of my tracks was too consanant and i mentioned it to my paps and he basically said so? Nothing wrong with that and if anything it was just a wanker trying to be edgy by saying that the chords werent 'complex' enough

>>73605019
The whole point with making music for a living is that it eventually crushes your soul cause you if you need to pay the bills and theres a gig on but its not what you want to play, youre gonna take that gig arnt you

>>73605054
Yes, but playing a gig that you don't want to play is still better than doing a job that you hate equally, that is also not related to music.

>>73605069
If you do it enough i feel like they merge and become one in the same

>>73605078
I don't understand what you mean.
Can you rephrase please?

>>73605014
You've made a paradox out of it! You can listen to others if that's important to you. None of this really matters. I'm just being an ass. I know most of us have come to a point though where someone's advice has been a little more than "The mix could be better" or "Your arrangement's a little sparse/bloated". Where someone has a completely different idea of what your music should sound like.

>>73605019
My personal philosophy on this isn't something I'm comfortable spreading. If your main love is music and you're absolutely driven to make it and that's your only means to then, yes, you should probably compromise your vision. I'll say what I say to a lot of people: There will always be new songs. It's like the thing about hair growing back.

>>73605038
Yeah, exactly. Complex is great for some but if it's not for you that's the end of it. Your paps is a good dude. As a teenager I got caught up a lot on cool and I see it in scenes with people my age still. I'm not going to talk down on irony. I'm a terribly sincere person. I just get tired of all this forced apathy.

>>73605084
Like if you have played enough gigs, it becomes just as bad as doing a day job, because it becomes a day job

>>73605087
Yeah he is.
I tend to let my edgyness out at gigs, ie smoking and drinking and what have you but when it comes to the music itself, my tunes changes pretty quick (haha)

>>73605087
Actually, I'd like to expound on the "new songs" thing a bit: You can always revisit something. Rework it. In the age of DAWs projects can be endlessly tweaked. Don't be too afraid to let something go. You can always come back to it. Do different versions. Polish it up. Strip it down. Recontextualize it. Also, don't feel pressured to put it out there. It's yours. You do what you want with it. You don't have to send everything out to the world. Also, don't feel bad if your work falls on its face! You can always try again. You're not going to strike gold every time.

>>73605125
I reckon the ten failures are well worth it for the one song you groove to for like a week after making it.

>>73605087
>You've made a paradox out of it
Well that's the point. It's paradoxical advice.

I get what you mean though, but I disagree. It's cool to make what you like and all but it's pretty much masturbation if you're going to make something you only like. I know introversion is popular in 4chan but if you're going to devote yourself to music then it would be a waste to not learn how to make things other people will enjoy. Other people are important too.

>>73605087
>My personal philosophy on this isn't something I'm comfortable spreading. If your main love is music and you're absolutely driven to make it and that's your only means to then, yes, you should probably compromise your vision. I'll say what I say to a lot of people: There will always be new songs. It's like the thing about hair growing back.
I agree on that.

>>73605096
>Like if you have played enough gigs, it becomes just as bad as doing a day job, because it becomes a day job
But if you compromise your integrity by making/playing music you don't necessarily like, you're bound to have a good time once in a while (or often, depending on your situation), while with a day job that never happens.
Also, playing gigs isn't the only way to compromise your integrity. Basically every way to make money with music can be tilted away from integrity to get closer to the money-making aspect. It's up to you to choose which direction you want your career to go, and how much you want to compromise your art (which would still be enjoyable if you compromise it in a way that allows it).
It's not a black/white situation, while having a day job pretty much is (unless you can make music every day after work somehow).

>>73605150
But they shouldnt be why you make the music in the first place.

>>73605164
I make music and I couldn't give less of a fuck about what people think, but I'm sure it's a mistake. Giving a fuck about what other people think is a good habit.

>>73605181
It's not a mistake because you're making the music for one reason or another but mainly because you like it. If others like, that's an added bonus but its the sole reason for making it. imo and only to a certain degree, you don't wanna take too much fucks onboard

>>73605239
Yeah it's a hobby but if I made music to please other people I could potentially get rich. Instead I have to work so I can afford to record.
Even if I didn't care that much, but still cared to some degree, I could get laid through music and shit. Like, sure, doing stuff for my own sake is fine, but I don't see what's wrong with making stuff to please other people, and I think it's a better idea in general.

>>73605290
I respect that.
What about live gigs?
Cause playing live is an absolute blast (cause i dont do it often) so its always great to see the crowd enjoying themselves and then that gives the band more energy and it can just build and build.

>>73605150
I've rewritten a reply several times by this point. I'll try to keep it concise: Are you actively presenting your music to others to gather a response? Masturbation is alright by me. I'm not creating to go out there and get my dick sucked, literally or figuratively. Lots of people do. Some people get off on crowd response. My advice is for unashamedly serving the self, which makes it seem egotistical but honestly attempting to draw others into your world is a lot more negatively self serving, especially if you don't have genuine confidence in your art, which people will associate with you. Think about that. Don't sucker yourself into thinking art for the masses is noble.

>>73605329
Last sentence is pretty accurate.

>>73605329
I never felt comfortable being praised for my younger efforts that, even though they were still something I was fairly fond of, were attempts at pleasing a crowd. I was a lot happier when I started being honest with myself. Any praise I receive for my work now makes me feel genuinely good, not that dirty kind of good. This is obviously personal to me but I feel like it carries.

>>73605321
Never played live. I always saw music as a hobby like video games. I'd like to play live but I've never made an effort towards it.
Sounds like a good time regardless of if I enjoy the music itself or not.

>>73605329
Nah I'm just like you say. But it feels like a waste. Why not go and show off and get blown. I say all this shit but in the end I end up making shit that most people would consider weird cause I can't be assed. Don't care if it's noble or not, getting results is objectively better than not and is what differentiates a casual hobby from a serious business.

>>73605398
All i can say is that i'd recommend it. Do it at least once before you die.

Hey guys is there a way to mask/erase distorted sounds of a track that was recorded with way too much volume? It has crackling sounds all over the place and its disappointing since I feel like it was very good and I dont think I will be able to re-record it and make it sound the same

Can somebody explain what layering is and how do I do it, I'm using FL studio and the layer doesn't really makes sense considering people make it out to be a miraculously helpful

>>73605398
Please do not follow my advice if you're genuinely trying to make a business out of music. I'm surprised I make any sort of money from what I do! The "why not" has to do with how attached you are to your art. If you're not really, go ahead and go for it, but musicians lie to themselves a lot. People will associate you with your art. If that matters to you then you may want to consider what you present to the public. You can always go home and keep what you truly like to yourself. Just understand if you're going out and playing "bangerz" and then go home to do whatever the fuck else don't be confused/upset/whatever when people still want "bangerz" down the line. As for "results", you're obviously business minded. I don't think about those kind of "results" when I make music anymore.

What's interesting is my initial intent was a scenario like you going to your buddy's house and he has Jeff over and while you're showing your buddy something Jeff is scoffing at it saying "Why isn't this faster/more aggressive? Shouldn't it have vocals?" ("why is it just music" is one I heard a lot as a kid)

what filter do you usually use for pads with a saw and square in it? I'm thinking about using band pass 12/6 but i'm not sure if it's generally making it lack too much character.

>>73605683
Use a high pass and low pass together to define your own "band pass"

>>73587459
Still waiting for answers

>>73605516
nobody

>>73606755
First you have to have mellow rock songs. I know that reads like I'm being an ass but a good arrangement will work itself out. It can take any number of steps 'til you reach your goal.

>>73605516
It's basically putting a complimenting sample or instrument beside another one to create a stronger sound.
Like, using two kicks at the same time cause one has a stronger high end and the other one a better low end.

>>73605516
layering is just the idea of combining multiple sounds/patches/whatever in a way that blends into a new sound
works with drums (transienty snare plus noise plus tonal snare = a thing that might work) or with synths (remember cheesy late 80ies pop with dx pianos layered with pcm choirs and shitty strings, but of course it can be done tastefully as well)
no idea how that function works in FL, but if you try layering the 'oldschool' way by just assigning the same midi in /note material to a couple of different synths or drum machines or samplers and mixing them you will eventually get the hang of how there's another way of doing it in whatever DAW. the basic ideas are always the same, though
then the last question is what are the actual elements you want to layer and all I can say is it's totally up to you. there's no real rules other than the basic idea of combining different texures, tonalities, and of course adding contrasts - transients to a pad or harmonically rich elements to band limited stuff, wide stuff to mono stuff, low to high, whatever
it all comes down to experimenting in the end

>>73606853
Yes I understand that but does it makes that much of a difference and if does, how. I have so many times how people want to "lick" the layers and I don't really get it

>>73606755
Lol wtf

Idg how you already get the overcompression thing but still ask this

It's all arrangement and mic technique? Just record well.... steps are dependent on hr somgs

>>73606965
It's not make or break, just a subtle detail. Helps at sound design and it's definitely a useful tool. It will save you a shit ton of time.

>>73607045
>It will save you a shit ton of time.
What do you mean
>>73606941
Thanks, I made this post mostly because I watched a interview by tim hecker and how he said he is using so many layers but to me his music sounds as bland/generic as it gets and was thinking that I'm missing something.

Play a single note with a sawtooth wave and listen to how it sounds.
Now add another note an octave below, and listen to how these two sound together now.
This is layering.
Now you can go a level deeper and instead of layering two of the same sound (at different octaves), try and layer one sawtooth and one square (try at an octave lower, at an octave higher, at the same octave, etc).

In essence, layering is to put two or more blander sounds together to create a richer and more interesting sound composed of the two.
Like putting basil on your tomato sauce to create a richer flavor that seems like it's one single flavor instead of two separate ones.

The easiest way to layer is to just play the same note with two different sounds and mix them together (maybe by removing some clashing frequencies from each, applying compression to the mixed sound to get them to the same volume, etc), but you can also play them at different octaves like in the 1st example, or you can play different notes and "harmonize" them like in a chord (usually a 5th or 7 semitones up is what sounds "the best", but you can experiment depending on the sounds and the song).

A neat trick to use layering to make a sound more interesting is to make a few copies of a sound (which now should sound like it's just one copy at a louder volume, undess there's something random like the osc phase or an LFO), and make small changes to each of them (like the filter, the waveform, the envelopes, the LFOs, etc), so that when they'll be mixed together they'll be a richer version of the original sound.

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question that has been fucking with me for a while

I really like harmor and its really easy to get unique sounds out of it, probably my best sound design tool so far

My question has to do with the resythesis tab where you can drag in audio clips and fuck around with them

a lot of the time Harmor makes the sample sound very flat/compressed and it sounds rough in a bad way. I usually just run with it and try to clean it up using eq and reverb, but i was wondering if anyone actually knows which setting to play with in Harmor to get the cleanest sound possible. I'm not talking about the quality, because there is a HQ option in the plug-in, I believe it was to do with some of the knobs in the screenshot i attached

(i believe this has to do with the fact that the resynthesis tool reproduces the sample rather than actual using the audio file, like a sampler)

Thanks, i apologize if this post was unclear as I don't really verbalize production stuff and everything I know has been self taught through trail and error

>>73607085
Cause instead of browsing through samples for hours trying to find the perfect drum you can just pick two samples and eq them and you'll get the sound you're looking for in less than a minute.

>>73607114
>Advanced Tab
>Image / Resynthesis: High Precision / Perfect (don't remember which one it is, switch to highest one anyway)
>HQ Rendering: Perfect
>Enable Side Signal
>Drag the sample in both parts A and B (enable part B) and enable the little chain thing that connects them.

>>73607095
>>73607143
Thanks, I really appreciate it

>>73607114
>(i believe this has to do with the fact that the resynthesis tool reproduces the sample rather than actual using the audio file, like a sampler)
Yes, harmor is an additive synth, so it works by adding together the single sinewaves to get the timbre that another normal subtractive synth would generate with an oscillator.
The resynthesis module simply analyzes the sound you put into it, and spits out the sine waves at the right time, so that they sound like the original sample.

>>73607155
>>73607175
thank u <3

>>73607045
>it's not make or break

Uhh it's KIND OF important and helps a lot man

are music programming faggots allowed here?

>>73607173
When I was first starting out I made a song to experiment with layering, so I did what I was talking about earlier and made a Massive patch that sounded nice, then I duplicated it, made some (pretty big) changes, then I duplicated it again and did the same.

Here's the audio of an early version of the project (keep in mind there's almost no mixing and I was a mega noob):
https://clyp.it/tudu1zfi

The first three are the individual sounds, then the fourth one is all three together.
Listen to how they don't really sound like three separate ones, but a richer one when put together.

My goal was to make a full spectrum sound so I made the 1st layer to be the bass and fill the low frequencies, then the second to be the sort of "lead" and take the mids/mid-high, then the third to "thicken" it like a sort of pad.

>>73607397
>My goal was to make a full spectrum sound so I made the 1st layer to be the bass and fill the low frequencies, then the second to be the sort of "lead" and take the mids/mid-high, then the third to "thicken" it like a sort of pad.

Sorry, the 1st is the bass, the second is the pad (which also has bass frequencies and "harmonizes" with the 1st), and the third is the lead.

My bad.

>>73607376
Sure.

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Hows the percussion sounding?

https://clyp.it/m3njwamr

This is the actual song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfPklPpEd7I

I just pasted the drum track from a midi i found onto EZDrummer Latin so i'm looking for the opinion from others' ear, as i'm not good at percussion myself.

>>73606772
I already have them

>>73606990
I just plan to record an album before i turn 30 (i'm 22 right now) and i want it to be a quality album

>>73607520
>https://clyp.it/m3njwamr
Get some better samples.

>>73607567
What kind of?

>>73607547
>record the guitars and vocals in your room with a 57
>di the bass and amplitube it
>record the drums with a real drummer at a studio or an electronic drumkit, or program it yourself
>add some synths and subtle vstis
>mix it on reaper yourself
>send it for some professional masterer on the internet
>???

dunno, thats how i'm doing my album at least

also stop killing gg

>>73607547
quality means good gear and a lot of practice to the point you know what you're doing

or go to a studio

>>73607579
Also, might wanna spend some more time fixing dynamics. Look for good quality kits for Kontakt.

How can I improve the sounding of the guitars here? I feel like sometimes both mesh and is difficult to hear what are they playing
https://clyp.it/5fla5x4f

I recorded it with an M-TRACK M-AUDIO, and edited a bit of it in Reaper

Maybe I need to use an amp emu in Reaper?

>>73607621
i think ezdrummer is good already. it just might have switched some instruments during the midi>ezd transfering process, but i cant detect it myself

>>73607611
also let me brag my mix again

https://55chan.org/mu/src/1498502237810.ogg

>>73607641
Way too mono, you gotta record stereo and pan them a bit, also sometimes one of the guitars is struggling to keep up with the other. But I'm really digging this track.

>>73607641
use different amp tones and mic pos

>>73607641
that lead is hella fizzy

part of it is what you're playing....at 1:10 it starts to get bad....

turn the tone knob down on the chords... or notch out a lot of space with eq... a lot

what are you even amping with? that lead really bothers me lol... 2:34 is a no man

you into fru too? <.<

>>73607658
lead solo could be a bit louder really

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>>73607679
Hmm how could I record it mono with my interface? I'm using pic related

Also, I did notice how sometimes one guitar lags compared to the other, that happened because for whatever reason while recording it my Reaper started lagging and the live playback didnt correspond to the playing, which messed me up a lot, but I was having a nice track so I didnt want to trash it, I guess I'll need to do some chopping

>>73607722
yea I know, I need to redo some parts, right now Im focusing on improving the sound of it
and yea im intro frusciante, although I dont want to copy him

>>73607752
I mean to record stereo, not mono

>>73607752
pan one take hard left, one hard right

>>73607752
Yeah fuck, just record mono and pan them like >>73607774 said.

>>73607762
>>73607774
>>73607803
okay please do not take this advice wtf

panning is hiding the issue not fixing it. bad practice, it'll sound like shit as soon as it's played in mono again

>"mix in mono"

>>73607851
It doesn't sound like shit, it more has to do with the playing and maybe add in a compressor because sometimes the lead gets too much but do pan them since most people will listen to it in stereo.

are the rhythm tracks played tight enough
https://clyp.it/g2o313jj

>>73607919
They are but the drums sound way too weak and MIDI, Try Abbey Road Modern Drummer for Kontakt.

>>73607774
>>73607803
>>73607851
question: if I duplicate the track, and pan it both left and right, but at the same time panning one more than the other, would that fake a stereo? right my amp cant record and playback at the same time (L6 Spider IV), so I cant just plug a mic and a direct output of the amp to record stereo

>>73607895
they're both fighting for the same space the entire time...........................................................

> pan them since most people will listen to it in stereo

it should sound good regardless of mono or not lol

>>73607952
why you prefer kontakt drums over ezd

>>73607958
>>73607895
I am raging internally at you all

.... yes you will fake stereo if you delay one of the tracks 15-30 ms but that's not going to help you

>>73607991
I'm sorry but it is impossible to me to record in Stereo at the moment because of this fucking amp
And I dont think Im able to recreate exactly the same track again just recording the amp sound instead of the amp output record line
Also this is more for fun and learning, I dont plan to sell or publish this anytime soon

>>73607958
It would fake a stereo yes.

>>73607969
Because they're much better.

>>73607991
Mono doesn't sound half as good as stereo does, even if it's mixed perfectly.

>>73608034
I was referring to using panning to fix issues... yes stereo sounds better most times of course

>>73608022
Fix your tones to mesh before doing stereo....

Even so, double track of your intention is to do stereo

If I make a plunderphonics album to the extent of SILY by The Avalanches, how much would it cost to clear samples?