Is massive attack any good?

The same way Banksy is good - if you do not expect any depth from it

>>73560448
I just know they did the theme for House

>>73560421
Massive Attack is literally "what if Portishead was still stuck in the 90s?"

>>73560464
then listen to their album

yes they are. its just that belittling any band within a specific sub-genre that ends up having even the slightest shred of wider appeal is a past time of /mu/.

Massive Attack is like Portishead without the background noir and with a bit too much bong hits and 80s r'n'b with a slice of reggae

makes sense that no one knows who Massive Attack are anymore, their last good album was Mezzanine

banksy is gay

>>73560421
great band. their last ep was fire. and so is this new tricky single
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3JCrEs_qw

I believe this is him.

Interestingly, my picture in my head of what Banksy looks like was exactly like this guy.

Banksy, by the way, is probably THE worst artist in the world and is corny on-the-noseness is a running joke in the art community.

TERRIBLE, dated aesthetic too.

>>73562521
>and *his corny on-the-noseness
Meant to write.

Also, it cracks me up that Goldie, who I adore, accidentally outed him.

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>>73562521
>the art community

what in the bloody hell are you talking about? if your gonna try to come across as highly informed and cultured at least attempt to make sense mate. what constitutes as the "art community"?

>>73563209
/mu/ of course

>>73562521
My art professor in college was a huge Banksy fan. I never really understood the appeal.

>>73562521
its only terrible and dated because everyone jumped on and copied his style and his stuff spread on social media. Banksy was supa hot fire 10 years ago.

>>73562521
It's pretty much confirmed to be him. Goldie accidentally referred to Banksy as Robert in an interview the other day

>>73563209
Like, artists and their peeps basically.

And I am highly informed and cultured. Like insanely so.

Of course there are a lot of people who buy into Banksy, but everyone with taste I know and respect thinks he is shit.

>>73563408
im convinced your memeing. imagine someone saying something as nebulous as the "music community" and expecting others to play along like their aware of who their talking about :/

>>73563479
lol

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these albums are all excellent, protection (top right) being the finest LP of the '90s

>>73560421
They're fantastic, Banksy not so much.

Raymond Pettibon is the actually cool version of Banksy

>>73563981
oh cmon banky's not that bad

>>73564000
He's not that good either.

>>73564000
>"Disneyland?... More like DISMALAND!"

Banksy fucking sucks.

Totally corny, outmoded '90s Gen X sensibility of protest. Rage against the Machine-level obviousness and simpleness.

Surprise surprise Banksy turned out to be the most cliche smug white progressive.

>"It's good art because it's STREET art! The STREET !! , like the PEOPLE and socialism and the like. I'll, uh, hide my rich white identity though to give the art the appearance of being of the MASSES and of the BLACK STREETS."

Fuck this FAG.

>>73564124
>obvious storm fag

>>73564222
>>73565523
Regardless of your political ideology Banksy is superficial corporatized shit rich white liberals wear on supreme hoodies. No fucking thanks

The only people who find Banksy deep most likely don't read

that guy seems way too young

>>73565594
youre young

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>>73565662
really?

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Its more or less confirmed

>>73565594
I completely agree. I don't mean to imply distaste for him due to any necessary disagreeing with his politics even, but by the way he implements them in art.

I think it's bland, stupid, heavy-handed, and essentially just a fucking act of political propaganda rather than art, lacking any real dimension or brilliance in itself.

>>73566311
>*my *necessarily disagreeing

(although yes of course I find his political stances as generally empty feel-good posturing, faddishness, and virtue signalling, artistic considerations aside)

It's like the art equivalent of Brad Pitt buying another African baby to look righteous.

>>73566311
>>73566334
Hit the nail on the head. This sort of celebrity social commentary is really concentrated to America (and Britain, by cultural osmosis).

>>73563479
haha so true "the art community" wtf is that

>>73560581
Portishead sounds more stuck in the 90s than Massive Attack tbqh fameo

>>73566220
Damn. Yeah that settles it.

It's funny, because I always thought there was something suspect and kind of dorky about Massive Attack's style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVYondSqTB4

Mezzanine is probably their best. I also came to like Heligoland after some time.

>>73566446
Seconding this.

>>73567032
Kek

>>73560421
better
https://youtu.be/KAo4svd7IR4

>>73563408
this has to be bait

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>>73567032
really makes you think

>>73564222
>>73565594
>>73566311
>>73566334
>>73566357
you call banksy shallow when the criticism you offer is possibly as equally vapid and shallow

or is that the joke

>>73560421
Massive Attack is good music made by fedora people

>>73560581
Portishead if fedora music made by good people

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>>73563408

>>73568713
what the fuck does this even mean

>>73563596
You gotta tell me why Mezzanine isn't there. Even if it's a different sort of work, it's still one of their best.

>>73564119
>>73564124
>>73565594


i'm not saying his work is intellectual or deep or anything, it just looks cool. not unlike Massive Attack's music.

>>73568706
no banksy is just terrible.

>>73567032
banksy: oi mate its like
me: How did you get in here
banksy: mickey mouse innit
me: please leave banksy
banksy: but hes holding a bomb

>>73569293
i think he's trying to say Massive Attack's music is good but is made by someone who thinks he's deeper than he is (Banksy) and that Portishead's music isn't isn't good but is made by more humble and respectable people

>>73569317
kek

The weirdest thing for me is some guy turned up to my shit grocery store job a few years ago claiming to be Banksy, and I was like ok whatever

But he looked just like this dude, right age, same face, same facial hair. I actually had no idea who Robert Del Naja was because I've never cared about Massive Attack but now I'm certain I've actually met him now I've heard what he sounds like and everything. Also a confirmed Banksy appeared shortly after that in the same county

>>73569338
sounds pretty unlikely m8. you're probably misremembering what his face looked like.

he's not a superstar but i'd imagine he's famous enough that if he told some random employee he was banksy, there's a decent chance someone would go "oh hey it's that singer from that band, this guy is banksy" and leak it

>>73569351
>there's a decent chance someone would go "oh hey it's that singer from that band, this guy is banksy" and leak it
nah, it's pretty low

>>73569351
tbqh i only know the black guy

>>73569367
it's not a high chance (i had no clue what his name was or who he looked like myself) but especially if he said it to someone in britain, i think the chance would still be enough that he wouldn't risk his decades of anonymity to impress/confuse some random store clerk

>>73569351
There was nobody there but me though, not even another customer. Like this guy was there talking about Banksy and his work for a solid 5 minutes while the one other staff member was having a break and there were no other customers

When I told my manager he just assumed it was a weirdo and didn't even look at the CCTV to check

>>73569380
Yeah but who would believe him

I didn't

>>73569381
what country and area? did his voice also sound like Robert's voice?

i feel like he wouldn't tell even one stranger due to the risk of someone recognizing him from the band. also, CCTV (even if it wasn't checked in this case, surely he'd be aware of that risk)

>>73569391
it'd be more believable if he were recognized as a semi-famous musician though. like if Patrick Stewart walked up to you and said he was the Zodiac Killer in full earnest, you might believe him

>>73569400
UK, county is Hampshire, there have been a few Banksy works in this area, though most are London and Bristol

What is the risk? Even if someone discovers his identity he can just make someone else spray his works and the Banksy thing continues. Maybe you are right but the pieces just fit

The only thing I can't remember is what brand of cigarettes he bought, but that might not even matter

What's Banksys worst? I've only seen his best/most popular really

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>>73569466
Dismaland was just cringe-worthy to be honest. It was all fun and games in the 90's but at this point it just feels redundant.

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>>73562521
>banksy is the worst artist in the wo-

Banksy is a plagiarist, only does stencils, and has a retarded agenda to boot. Fuck him

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>>73569936
>ai weiwei is the worst artist in the wo-

>>73569972
We'll this little game ended quickly

>>73569936
Only relevant because muh political struggle. The art world is such pompous crap, just there like everything else to promote multicult and communist agenda

>>73569972
Haha, there is also Tracy Emin, she is worse. How about that black guy in the YBA who painted with shit

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>>73569972
Damian Hirst is the wo-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLFRiEyOBuo

>>73566446
Third is literally not trip hop

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>>73569984
If you're trying to slam Chris Ofili for using elephant dung, then you need to fuck off or look further into his work. He is one of the greatest painters of our time.
>>73570055
Jeff Koons is a pedophilic marketing genius. There are some fantastic videos of Koons and Hirst being all buddy buddy that I return to whenever I want to get mad.

I've never really given a shit about paintings or any other kind of still visual art, but I dig Massive Attack so maybe I'll dabble. How do I into Banksy? Do painters have "essentials" or whatever?

>>73570267
>Do painters have "essentials" or whatever?
You really are a philistine, aren't you? God dammit

>>73562521
the art community itself is a joke, proven by among other things banksy's documentary exit through the gift shop

>>73560421
I'm Banksy.

>>73570349
No, I'm Banksy.

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>>73570267
Banksy is trash. There are contemporary artists that are actually worth your time like Jenny Saville and Kent Williams

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>>73570333
>You really are a philistine, aren't you? God dammit

>>73570333
I am highly informed and cultured. Like insanely so.

Really, though, I included an honest and accurate disclaimer in my post, and then asked a question using a board-relevant metaphor. I may be a philistine (although I'm not aware of any semitic heritage in my bloodline) but there's no need to get upset about it.

>all these people hating Banksy
He's not a genius but he has more talent that most modern artists who just put trash in museum

>>73570267
You're a fucking idiot.

>>73570464
>doesn't know the definition of the word philistine
>makes a reddit-tier joke
>needs fucking essentials for Banksy, the most overhyped and widely circulated """artist""" of this century

Jesus Christ

>>73570470
he really fries your bean like Hopsin eh, Paul?

>>73570470
I guarantee you can't name one non-meme contemporary artist and that you've never even spent time in a modern art museum with an open mind.

>>73570547
>non-meme contemporary artist
There aren't any

>>73570512
>>73570525
Lmao look at these butthurt pseudo-intellectual faggots
Pathetic

>>73570557
Spoken like a true ignoramus. Glad you've demonstrated my point.

>durr I know literally nothing about contemporary art
>oh but actually this one edgelord I and everyone else with a slack jaw like is better than all these artists I've never heard of

>>73569318
>Portishead's music isn't isn't good
Third is literally AOTD

>>73570582
Modern "art" is a joke, prove me wrong

>>73570594
>makes shitty transition from triphop to shitty krautrock
nah shit was ass breh

>>73570624
>doesn't know the difference between contemporary art and modern art and expects his opinion to be taken seriously

>>73570630
>shitty krautrock
b8

>>73570525
To be fair, my "reddit-tier joke" necessitates that I do, in fact, know the definition of the word philistine. The only way the joke could have been made is by awareness of its two correct uses.
So is it really that much of a faux pas to ask for an artist's most important or recognized works? Do you really find it so offensive that there are people who aren't exposed as a matter of course or inclination to visual art media?

>>73570684
nah you just don't have a proper shit filter m8

>>73570630
>shitty krautrock
neck yourself tasteless nigger

>>73570630
>krautrock
what the fuck?

>>73570746
>>73570810
sorry m8s it would be like if slowdive decided shoegaze was dated and decided to start making Goth music cause they were going through a goth phase
shit was embarrassing to watch

>>73570841
slowdive is shit and shoegaze IS dated, so your comparison fucking sucks

>>73570864
>sucks
yeah just like Third did
you get it now

>>73570055
jesus what a hack

>>73570209
d00d i use elephant dung because muh culture
>proceeds to paint childish scribble paintings

YBA is a total fucking meme and I'm certain it's all money laundering

>>73570654
Contemporary = modern

No movement in art is called modern correctly. Modern = now. That period needs to be renamed because it's retarded

At least modernism makes a clear distinction between just describing the present and describing an ideology

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>>73563408
>And I am highly informed and cultured. Like insanely so.
Lol

I respect him and I think he's kinda cool, but Banksy is basically babby's first contemporary art.

THE BANKERS INT FOR US THEMS FOR THEMSELFS TOO RITE M8!!!!

>>73568706
What do you want? A diagram with economical statistics?

Eat a dick.

>>73563408
cultured? oh yea well what's your favorite neutral death radio collective album?

>>73563408
Holy shit you're a douchebag.

>>73569936
Yeah, Ai Weiwei is another one of my top worst artists.

Also, Gilbert & George and Grayson Perry (along with Banksy, there's really about nothing worse than English leftists from the 80s - 90s / Gen X era doing political critique').

>>73571237
I wrote that knowing it was outrageous, but it's actually true, which is satisfying for me because I have the last laugh always.

>>73573054
No, like, I am basically the oracle of our time (seriously though).

>>73573117
Yeah, kind of, but I come by it honestly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHaAcaAOy-w

>>73570055
Nah man Koons is pretty great. Huge pleb filter.

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>>73570435
Liar, I'm Banksy.

>>73560421
Yes.

>>73560581
That's one of the worst opinions I've heard in a while. They sound nothing alike, and Portishead would not even exist without Blue Lines.

>>73561017
This is pretty decent for Tricky, but I'm still 10000x times more interested in the new Massive Attack LP than another Tricky LP. I hope they release another album soon.

>>73563596
I wouldn't call Protection better than Blue Lines, but the title track Protection is probably my favorite song by Massive Attack. Karmacoma is also up there.

>>73573386
NO BITCH I'M HIM

>/mu/ being clueless about paintings
this board is really 4chan's version of facebook comments.

>>73573598
I actually know a lot of famous artists who regularly browse 4chan, but they're of course incognito about it for several good reasons.

But the general board culture is laughable when it comes to art. See the cluelessness of the "there's an art COMMUNITY?" comments (yes, and you guys will never know it).

Which is funny because on one hand 4chan so often berates what little newer art they see but then do things with memes that are so similar aesthetically and conceptually.

But I will agree with the sentiments that Banksy is obviously TERRIBLE.

>>73573386
WHO YOU CALLIN PINHEAD

>>73573669
zach here, thanks man

wait you mean to tell me banksy wasn't matt bellamy from muse this whole time

>>73573669
>equating art and memes
lmao

one of the most boring shows Ive been to

>>73573304
fuck, wkw and chrisopher doyle are so good together

>>73575055
Never seen post-rock live then.

>>73575826
I have too

>>73566446
have u heard third

>>73563408
how many fedoras are you wearing?

>>73579620
all of them

>>73560421
Yes

>>73560581
You mean BEING GOOD?

>>73570055
jesus...

>>73560421
never really saw the appeal. Then again, I only listened to Mezzanine. Were they better earlier/later in their discography?

>>73570267
yeah i have the same doubt desu. i don't know how to get into visual art, i visit museums from time to time but what about all the artists i'll never know since they are not there

>>73560421
Listen to them and find out.
Mezzanine shows up on a bunch of "good album" lists. So /mu/ probably likes them/

>>73582005
yes. honestly Blue Lines and Protection are both better than Mezzanine. and the remix album No Protection.