/prod/ general

Dude on busy works barely knows what he's talking about. The only genre I'd really trust him with is trap

just made a track can anyone give some advice?
https://clyp.it/moidx5bh
i felt the drums were lacking but i also wanting to take an ambient direction so im not sure about that
and the second part is definitely something i need help on, is it too boring? does the key change seem jarring or ugly?

>>73459609
I like your track but it does feel a bit bare
maybe add some ambient wind noises or some whispers

here is my clyp
https://clyp.it/w3dc3v0f

is my beat off? i cant tell because ive heard it so much so please help

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>>73459891
https://clyp.it/oeijl3j5

my bad

>>73459912
those drums are way off beat

>>73459698
i was considering adding wind noises but i thought that it might contradict the theme, you're right about more ambient noises in general though
as for your track im not too familiar with what you're trying to go for but it definitely feels very lo-fi, also it's very samey maybe i'd work as bgm but as a independent track it leaves something to be desired, it feels like something that'd be used to build up hype in a another track

>>73459927
ok cheers, how do you get samples that are just piano on beat? seems very hard with a song like that can anyone give tips?

>>73459952
usually when you use daw programs they have some system to let you know when the beat is/various subdivisions
like dark/light boxes on ableton
or the red/grey buttons on fl studio
also just change the sample itself like decrease the tempo or cut it in certain parts
although in jazz syncopation is a thing, just keep that in mind

>>73459952
use a metronome, sounds like you need to develop your ear more if you can't hear how off that sounds just by listening to it

https://clyp.it/4ytieg3e

the cutesiest minuet i could muster

Once again, someone please update the paste bin this link. I was gonna make this thread and update it myself but the mu archive was down so I couldn't find the most recent OP.

https://mega.nz/#!tU1CnSoA!3PH2i4T-AIUDKCJoQynQdifCeRH7XbR7oCyWm_xoDPI


>>73459526
I cringe whenever I see that picture of him in his oversized rented suit

>>73460290
It's the audio engineering ebook bundle by the way

An experiment rally. One very early thing I've made, it's really bad.
https://clyp.it/izbijzof
Can you explain how you feel about this?

https://clyp.it/ilntc03u

For the most part i think ive finished the structure, thoughts?

>>73460336
Idk it's very weird, not too sure what you're going for really.

>>73460411
Thank you. Alright, I'll go now and try to make something that has more of a point

>>73460464
Like i think it could go somewhere most definitely dude, like transitioning into a melody or bringing in some drums

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>>73460290
Know what, fuck it, the pastebin is full of broken links so I'm gonna update them all. I'm also gonna replace the books in the ebook bundle with the newer editions of the same books that are in there, and maybe put some new ones in there.

>>73460336
it gives of the impression of an intro to an album like someone in a dark hotel room, it sounds pretty cool desu like something from a movie but not as an actual song, if you did a drastic tone change after it could be cool

>>73460523
gotcha, thanks in advance anon

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How is this beat /prod/?

https://clyp.it/amce4pox

>>73460813
I would say that it's very static. You should try adding more elements to it and making the drums more dynamics cause atm it's quite repetitive

how the fuck do these trap producers and hip hop producers make those cispy fat 808 snares? everytime i try to make a snare i get those 909ish snare.

>>73461206
Same reason ogres are so big.

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>>73460523
>>73460715

Updated pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/08mwwiAV

If I fucked anything up or forgot something let me know.

>>73460994
thanks for the fb. im hoping to layer rap overtop, but im struggling to find the right amount of dynamic drums while keeping it not busy 0.o

Can someone give me a rundown on how THE fuck I can record a few songs onto Protools and make it sound somewhat decent.

I have pro tools and FL studio, and I'm about to get a decent mic. Is there a way I can add in drums, a simple bassline, etc, or is it shit if I do this?

Also, any guides for like double tracking, gates and shit like that?
I'm basically looking for a "protip" guide from someone with experience. A no bullshit method basically

Thanks in advance, I'm a retard with this shit

how am i mixing lads

https://clyp.it/554ckppd
https://clyp.it/ujef0csb

>>73461582
>Is there a way I can add in drums, a simple bassline, etc, or is it shit if I do this
What do you mean? Are you asking for realistic sounding virtual drums/bass and such? If so, EZ Drummer or Abbey Road Modern Drummer. And Trillian for bass. You can also spend some money and have people record drums/bass for you on fiverr.com for cheap

Also check out some of the links in the newly updated pastebin:
>>73461343

If you're a complete beginner you might want to check out the Audio Engineering 101 book

>>73461484
You can have it sounding busy but still only having, for example, kick snare and hats, simply by changing up the timing and velocity.

>>73461668
I'm a relatively quick learner but I usually need to SEE what I'm learning, and then mess around, if that makes sense.
Hence my request for some no bullshit guide so I can at least get a rough song down, and then work on the small things that make or break a track, t b h. I mean, I need more of a guide on getting rid of hiss, and just overall making it sound somewhat polished and not just thrown together.

Thanks for the advice

>>73461853
Lynda.com bobby owsinski's audio recording techniques. torrent it from rutracker.org

>>73461885
Thank you, god bless

>>73461587
Is the guitar sound fitting?

https://clyp.it/p00bdyyf

>>73462312
Personally I wouldn't have the guitar panned so far to the right without there being something to balance it with on the left. It doesn't need to be in the center but I'd bring it closer to the center

>>73462390
i agree, i'll add another to the hard right

>>73460813
Fuck I love this. Did you make the piano yourself or is sampled?

>>73461582
Uhh you sound like you just play guitar I guess

Other guy covered drums and bass, though you should really be playing an actual bass

Double tracking:
>play in time
>play IN time
>don't use the same eq, guitar, pickup etc every time

Experiment with mic distance

You're going to need to be more specific if you want a good answer. These are all more the basics than pro tips

>>73459487
that's one of the few good records i've found hunting through shitty local thrift shops

>>73461587
>>73462312
ewww

https://clyp.it/gpi3zvag

why is the snare not cutting?

also anyone agrees that it has too much mids and sounds overall saturated/distorted?

wtf, reaper is better than cubase and protools

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>>73464101

>>73463145
It's all I can afford at the moment.
Was really looking for just a simple guide of what not to do, things not to miss for a basic recording, etc. Tips, etc
For now, I'm looking to just get used to ProTools and work on the small things as I go

>>73464356
The not to do list is too huge to reasonably make for you, we don't have any idea what you don't know how to do that might be assumed common sense for recording. Gotta post something

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tfw izotope neutron cant even fix your mix

https://clyp.it/3wztxiar

>>73464880
Dunno what youre on about, sounds fine in my cans

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>>73464880
tfw youre a fag and knew it sounded alright

>>73465052
Yea desu dunno what hes bitching about

How do you guys start tracks? Do you have a clear vision before production? Or just mess around with stuff until something sounds nice?

>>73465215
Personally i sit down on a piano and play around till something sticks, then just start layering after that. How do you do it anon?

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Working on a new single

"Love in my eyes"
-->
https://clyp.it/zyilsz51

>>73465215
A clear vision like a Hitler speech. Thousand yard stare into my monitor screen until my eyes become blurry and teary. Until my shoulders ache and my back is hunched. One earphone on, neck craned toward the speaker/amp like that scientist fella with the robo voice, you know the one!
I cannot compromise on this vision and often trash a song if doesn't match my "idea" of it.
I have thousands of hours of recordings/projects in "storage" that aren't quite up to my standard. Often times I will finish a song and listen to it the next day and throw it over something minor, or just "what was I thinking?"

There is something about creating at dusk, it's like the mind is more daring and ambitious. Almost like drinking booze, and waking up to find the girl looks terrible now that you're not out of it anymore. Ideas seem great, things seem great, and then the morning comes

Or maybe I'm a little fucked up

>>73465397
>A clear vision like a Hitler speech
lel so edge

>>73465489
I don't give a fuck for 4chan terminology
Being on the edge is where any decent musician should want to be, in my opinion

>>73465542
>edge
>decent
wew lad

>>73465542
not him but the point of calling someone edgy is to mock them for thinking they are edgy, when they're really just a tryhard

>>73465585
edgy

>>73465621
edgy

>>73465573
No he's shit
>>73465585
I know what it means, I'm saying i don't give a fuck for what it means.
4chan terms and insults mean nothing, they are not grounded in reality, instead more like the reality of some warped virgin.

>>73464992
>>73465052
>>73465113
it did fix some of the bass issues, but i thought it made the high too harsh.

here is the original mix
https://clyp.it/ohbg21gb

who are your favorite electronic music producers?

>>73465665
nah your reply clearly makes it seem like he was saying being edgy was a negative thing. He was actually saying it's a positive thing that you aspire to be, but don't achieve

>>73465397
6/10 decent start, keep trying

Quotations completely ruin the flow, flat similes, sounds like you're trying too hard to express something that isn't that profound.

>>73465731
(Not him but I'm just going to judge the shit out of you guys)

Besides the obvious /mu/ shit, who do you guys listen to that makes genuinely unique (listenable) music?

>>73465665
>thinks edginess is confined to 4chan
it exists anywhere you tell people I PRODUCE WITH A SINGULAR PURPOSE IN MIND LIEK HITLER XD

>>73465959
define listenable
define unique
define genuinely

>>73465731
Nuages

>>73465924
I wasn't trying to write to impress, faggot. Look at the amount of full stops I used, more like notes and free flowing stream of consciousness.
>>73465992
I wasn't saying that at all, you low IQ plebeian. Also Hitler wasn't singular in any way, really

I'm just a by stander and this argument is cringe af from my point of view.

>>73466047
>cringe af
>af
I don't give a fuck what you think about anything

>>73466061
Thats how its supposed to be, It's the internet afterall ;)

>>73465397
>Or maybe I'm a little fucked up
i can be your angle or your devil

>>73466047
well it's a good thing you told us, we value your feelings

>>73466003
thanks

>>73466073
You can be my hiro baby

https://clyp.it/mq0dfdbl

Feedback appreciated. There's something off about this, it might be the drums. Pls respond

>>73465349
This dude tryna bring out the gay in me.

>>73466152
Hey man, I don't want to piss all over your dreams but if I heard that or came across that randomly, I'd smash the fuck out of whatever was producing that sound

You sound like a suburban white wannabe rapper from a middle class church going family who wears those ridiculous yeezy shoes and supreme clothing but doesn't skate
I bet you post a lot on Twitter and think Radiohead are the bees

>>73466005
Even if you're him I'm going to act as if you're not because this is so clearly trying to bait lol

>>73466152
>>73466269
Just kidding bro, sounds good
>>73466290
I'm not baiting, that's just how I am

>>73466269
>I'd smash the fuck out of whatever was producing that sound
lol what are you even talking about?

>>73466152
Too repetitive and the sample splice point is too obvious lol

>>73466315
Oh okay lol

>>73465731
basic channel
orbital
surgeon
simian mobile disco
four tet
eliphino
modeselektor
kink

>>73466320
>>73466351
I was saying If I randomly clicked on someones Soundcloud or whatever, and that started playing, I would smash my own consumer products to stop that shit from tussling my stereocilia
but I was joking

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>>73466269
>wannabe rapper
>no rapping

Let's be real, if I was a suburban white wannabe rapper I'd be making trap and sipping lean to "fit in."

>>73466333
I don't get this. All samples are repetitive by nature. What makes a sample not repetitive?

>>73466413
changing it up

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>trap

Any feed on this?
https://clyp.it/2de4hhvc

>>73466383
Sipping lean is 2011 tier. Old men know about sipping lean and trap music now.
I would rather listen to a toilet flushing eternally than have to listen to another minute of rap music.
(I've listened to thousands of hours of it that is what makes me say this)
Garbage, all of it.

>>73466413
How well it is placed
What surrounds it
What interacts with it

Sampling is gay anyway

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I'm trying to record some demos on my computer so that I can show them to friends and try and build a full band around them. For percussion I'm just going to use samples/plugins since I'm not a great drummer.

Should I bother arranging realistic drum patterns or should I just make a loop to back up the main idea? I used to arrange them manually when I did solo guitar/recording stuff but that always took a ton of time and it seems like a waste of time since in this case they'll probably change a lot by the end

>>73466458
Sounds like every other trap producer with gimmicky imagery and no talent or originality

>>73466479
just bee urself :^)

>>73466479
No one here can tell you, can they really? Depends on if you're happy with it.

Do what you must to make it sound good to you?

>>73466479
Most drum plugins have tons of good preset rhythms. Often they will already have realistic timing and velocity variation to make it sound more realistic. Just drag and drop the midi

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>>73466492
hmmm what about these 2: https://clyp.it/mfwp1bxq
https://clyp.it/satkz143

>>73466515
>No one here can tell you, can they really?
I was mostly just wondering if anyone else has found themselves in a similar position.

My instinct is to put effort in and change them up so that even if I can't put together a group I'll still have made something cool but then I go back and listen to the old recordings I did and man even after all the time I spent on the drums they just don't sound very good. Seems like it might not be worth the effort when I could focus on something else.

>>73466529
I'll actually look into that, thanks

https://clyp.it/ilntc03u

For the most part i think ive finished the structure, thoughts?

>>73466630
same as
whatever floats your boat though

>>73466770
not bad, did you use virtual drums or real thing? if so what

vocal sounds a little off but still

>>73466825
Just a pearl
Yeah im i could probs touch them up
Also its pretty obvious they arnt virtual drums

>>73465289
Sometimes I get ideas while doing everyday shit and I record it as a voice note in my phone. But usually I just play in the piano and get a cool chord progression or rhythm going. Also by layering and programming drums.

>>73467703
yeah i do that a lot too, ill just start humming something out of the blue, lately ive been trying to go more organic, rather than all electronic

>>73467050
you never know anymore
cheers though

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>>73468121

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>tfw you realize you can't make good music and lose all hope

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>>73468633
>>73468633
stop

>>73468681
Dude out here looking like George R.R Martin lmao

>>73468633
>>73468681
>>73468731

i bet you guys are the kinds of people to post soundcloud links in this thread SMFH

>>73468798
I don't even have good music to put on mine bro hahahaha

:(

>>73468848
Ah alright i'll let you off this time

https://bassgorilla.com/ableton-live-mastering-tutorial/

is this a good tutorial for mastering?

>>73459526
even then he's sort of clueless.. left to his own devices he can make cool music though

https://clyp.it/jcs4pzqk
What does /mu/ think of meme-core

Here's a belter for yous to feast on
https://clyp.it/hz1rdm3y

>>73469692
Jesus that's actually really cool and original imo.
I thoroughly enjoyed that, to the point where if it were finished, i'd totally listen to it.

is there a good documentary on how an album is made start to finish in a professional setting?

>>73466152
Very good i like the oooo
And the boom bap

>>73469953
yeah you just put soundgoodiser on every track then you're good

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i heard you guys like shure mics

i've been making quite a few songs with potential, but i'm having real issues with getting a balanced, detailed mix.

i''m mostly having trouble with tucking synth melodies behind the percussion, and things sort of clash and the bass drum loses power.

how did you guys get to the point where u can mix perfectly??

i probably just need to spend more time experimenting...

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infuriatingly meme bass warning

https://clyp.it/vhcw1iwq

just made a footwork-ish mix of we belong together
it's pretty bad so far

>>73470394
>i probably just need to spend more time
You answered your own question kiddo.

https://clyp.it/gpi3zvag

why is the snare not cutting?

does it sound like too much mids/high mids and overall saturated/distorted?

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>kiddo

>>73461206

Try remangling the right-channel-mixbus-knob to the left while readjusting the cutoff-slope curiously

Congrats, you're gay now

How does one make music sound gay?

>>73470474
Generic as fuck

>>73460177
I like it, it works well. I know people rarely give feedback to classical stuff, but we need that here, too.

https://youtu.be/riM1KZn9q4k?t=1m55s
anyone know what synth this is?

>>73463097
Thanks! I actually sampled Stevie Wonders "These Three Words." I heard it on the radio and figured that I could make something out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hApCaqVdGk

>>73470891
they ask you to play on it lol

multiband compression > eq

>>73460336
if it was a little lower toned in the static. It would have a nice ambience to it.
>>73462312
with the guitar you should have two tracks layered each panned to left or right and then a track of your solo right in the middle. At least thats how I would do it. But if you're trying to simulate a live band sound then move your bass to the left and put your drums right in the middle. and I would take each drum and pan them as they sit with in the drum set.
>>73464880
During the intro I was feeling out a vocal melody but then it dropped into some crazy shit. Sounds fine in my headphones too. I d like the bass to be a lil harder but thats just my preference.
>>73465349
I feel the blast in my ass. I feel the love in my ass.
>>73466152
Maybe try some different drum sounds. You could possibly sample some drum sounds off the same album that sample is from. Otherwise I think it would be cool if it was pitched down a little/added some bitcrushing/and threw a lpf over it.
>>73466458
>>73466630
Brah I fucks with all these. I could def put something on these joints.
>>73466770
I liked this but I felt like your main piano motif needed to blend more. It def needs to stand out but it feels like its all I pay attention to sometimes.
>>73469692
This was cool as fuck man.

This is just a hook idea I had for a beat I made. Is it trash or is it worth working on?
https://clyp.it/v43ebuau

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>roland finally makes an analog synth
>boutique form factor
also why a minimoog clone

>>73471988
I don't like the rhythm of the vocals, not tight enough. I would turn them down slightly. Snare needs to be turned up a bit. I would personally turn the kick up a bit too, more punch. And the mix just feels too claustrophobic, are you using lots of compression?
You also might want to reconsider the arrangement because I turned my monitors up a lot during the intro and then the hook was super loud.

>>73472133
499 for 3 osc analog is actually great and so is studio electronics

SE 1 was originally a hit, so it's probably a guaranteed sale for roland.

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>>73470474
>>73471015

https://clyp.it/ss0kg232

>tried to make it less generic
>still generic as fuck

Praise be mariah tho.

>>73472557
The price for the specs isn't bad, but the form factor is actually unplayable imo.

>>73472613
Is your master level going over 0db? If so turn all your tracks down an equal amount

>>73461303
Onions?

is the intro acoustics sounding soft?
https://clyp.it/yntq0r0j

>>73465731
Shigeto
Death Grips
Baby teeth
Baths

>>73471988
yes i'm trying to emulate a live band setting
the drums already panned like a live situation, with the snare a little bit to the side

added another guitar on the other side, hows it now

https://clyp.it/d2trjrfs

>>73473122
ignore that clyp, this one ↑ is the real deal

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Hey looking at getting pic related, thoughts on it?

>>73473575
Looks like fun, grab it boi

So, I downloaded FL-Studio and attempted to make a jazzy hip hop beat. Any suggestions, Ideas? My first attempt at mixing desu

https://clyp.it/tzeptnf2

tell me what you think mates

>>73473575
I don't personally think it's worth it

If anything I'd make a few samples with it and return it after an hour

Not sure if this is the right thread to ask.

I want to put in some lyrics in my songs since I can't make acoustic patterns that are interesting enough, but I can't sing for shit. Is there any good software that can teach me to hold the right fucking note?

>>73473890
you said you have a guitar so practice tuning your voice to it
press a note and sing its pitch
then as you get decent at that you start playing scales

>>73473749
>https://clyp.it/hz1rdm3y

needs more high end

hey guys, any tips on how to add weight to a song without it getting too muddy?

My main proble is that when i create basslines, the mix just won't stay together, either the bass takes the whole mix, or it just doesn't sound loud enough.

So far i've tried sidechaining it to the bassbeat, but i can't really get where I want to, and my mixes always sound empty somehow, like somethings missing.

>>73473985

Buy LoAir

>>73474006
i'll look it up, thanks man.
What is it for?

>>73473575
What's your current setup like? If it's computer centric is seems like it would be a pain in the ass.

https://clyp.it/febsuzwa

Guys, I'm really getting crazy with this, something is missing, and I can't figure out what it is.

Any tips?

>>73473985
Do you put a lot of different instrumentation in to your tracks tracks?, that could add to it since less is more when mixing

You could also focus more on the high end adding some higher frequency stuff in the background should give your track some more lightness to emphasize the bass

>>73474027

I dont really remeber but it was something about filling up low frequencies or some shit like that

combine that with your sidechaining stuff and you'll cum buckets after listening to your mixes, it's really easy to use

Waves LoAir

It can totally fuck up your mix though if applied wrongly

>>73474058

dude let him create more layered stuff instead of going the easy way

decreasing the number of layers because of mixing problems is bogus, you have to learn how to deal with a higher amount of instrumentation

>>73473985
multiband compress your lows, thats what i started doing

>>73474058
well, one of my main mistakes is that I add too many instruments and sounds, and even with sidechain, EQ, compression etc., the mix just get's too muddy.
On the other hand, when I try not to do this, I just feel like something's missing.

When I hear some pro music, I get the feeling that there's only a few instruments, but they get to make it sound so complete.. I just can't figure out how they do this, besides harmonics and adding details.

I'll try what you said, because it's true that I tend to preffer lower freqs, forgetting the high end in many of my tracks.

Thanks man

>>73474055
>https://clyp.it/febsuzwa

apply a limiter

>>73473680
Thanks dude

>>73473802
Yea I get that, i'm kinda most tempted just to have a drum machine that I can use for live performance and to give some tactile feedback

>>73474035

Its pretty computer based desu, but based on the reviews it seems to be really good at interfacing with computers, is there anything I should know about it then?

>>73474066
Nice! I'll try it soon :)

Is it like some sort of compressor wit reverb or something like that?

>>73474118

It's a low end harmonizer

of course you'll have to do the obvious obligatory stuff like compressing etc anyway

>>73474086
so, what you say is, if I have a kick, bassline and atmosphere for example, in different chanels, apply a compressor to each chanel and find the perfect touch? or mayb apply it to the three of them at the same time?

How do you view producing music on garageband on an iphone?

>>73474111
thanks! You mean a limiter to the main channel right?
I'll get on with it now

>>73473939

Problem is I don't seem to have any clue if I'm in tune or not until I check the recording. I can obviously just go back and forth with singing and recording, but I was wondering if software could help make the process less tedious.

>>73474149
yes
apply to each one individually
if you apply it to a buss with all of them, you're gonna get the attack of one affecting the compression and it'll become mud and with unwanted volume oscilations
you want to compress the low end so it doesnt get past certain point (that application would be more like limiting?) and mud up, make it stable
also have you already EQd the channels to have them on different frequency ranges? like the kick having its peak at around 60hz (or whatever its naturally strong frequency is), then you hi pass the bass at around that same frequency and boost it at around 100hz
i'm still trying to get good at that too so dont take it as a certain tip

>>73474175
then its a tuner what you want, sing to a tuner

>>73474102
Its cool man glad to help but like >>73474080 said if you want to make more layered stuff, make more layered stuff, mixing's hard and it takes a while but don't let a potential sub-par mix hold you back from creating what you really want to make

Mixing is vastly secondary to the music imo, you'll pick it up eventually

>>73474169
patrician production choice

>>73474169
don't do that

>>73474222
great man, I really have to learn on this aspect much more than any other.
I've been EQing as you said but I learned this not so long ago, so my older mixes are always muddy for this reason. So I'l doo as you say, try not to mix the frequencies and compress them chanel by chanel.
Thanks man, this is of great help, even i've you didn't master it yet :)

>>73474279
why?

>>73474279
one of the boys from northern electronics claimed he made an album on his phone
no clue which one or if its true though

>>73474055
Change the kick, mix the bass quieter, listen to it in a car

>>73474248
that's it, I always tend to leave he mixing for the end, because breaking my head with it just doesn't let me be inspired. Sometime when I layer too many things, I try to erase some of them, but the result isnt really what I want as a composition..

Do you think that learning mixing is more about technique and knowledge on the matter, or is it just training the ear, resting etc?

>>73474409
cool man, thanks.
For the kick, do you mean it shouldn't be so punchy? like add some end to it, and make the attack a bit deeper?

btw way, just for advice and opinion, would you add a bassline with a bit more melody? or do you like it like it is, more robotic and impersonal

>>73474352
also steve lacy made his demo mixtape on his phone

https://clyp.it/0x0hahvb
Hi guys

Any advice, tips, opinion?

>>73473749
>https://clyp.it/tzeptnf2
hey, I like the beat, but I would put a highpass filter to the bass, or EQ it to get some of the high freqs out.
Also, maybe a bit less reverb to the piano?

Just an opinion, I liked it a lot :)

>>73474418
I'm not a professional, like i'm sure most people on here aren't, but I would say knowledge and learning the skills comes before refining them.

Vast majority of people wouldn't notice most fine details for your mixing anyway so depending on who is going to listen to it, it probably isn't worth worrying about too much, kinda putting the cart before the horse

Could you post a song of yours for reference?

>>73474536
I like it, you could add some more variety to the drums imo, what did you use for the bass it sounds great?

>>73474468
I'm only on headphones so it's hard to get an idea of what your current kick is really like
At the moment it's definitely too loud, but also has too much activity above 200Hz.
I'd recommend using an 808 (Make sure you tune it to the key of your track) as the sub and layer it with another kick to get the tone you want
Few tips on layering:
>Make sure the layers are EQ'd so they aren't fighting for frequencies
>Check the phase of the layers
>Tune the layers to be in key with your track AND each other
Also
>Pay attention to where your kick ends. Your sub bass is coming in on the offbeat 8th notes so make sure your kick is only playing until then
>Use an ANNA track as a reference track. I know it isn't the same type of tech house you're going for but her songs are impeccably mixed and will help you a lot

Good luck bud

>>73474468
Oh and for the last point that's totally up to your vision for the track
If you want to have a 2 or 3 note bassline that's your choice but for this style monotonous bass is fine, just make sure you have enough interesting sound design to keep it all interesting

>>73474573
great advice man, I though it to be the other way round, like getting a first aproach to it and then get deeper into it. But I'll try to learn the basics of compression, EQing etc, because I think I'm just in the begginer phase, too overwhelmed by the amount of stuff there is to learn :)

https://clyp.it/bj1dhdch
here's some of the more relaxed/slow things I do

and btw I'm also this anon>>73474536

>>73474602
thanks man :) I'll post the newer version, wich has more detailed drums, because the one I posted has a beat that's kind of boring.

Wich bass do you mean? the sub bass that goes with the kick? or the more melodic acid bass?

>>73474602
https://clyp.it/j5tdi1mk

this is the newer version

>>73474829
sounds like shit. i was bored in 5 seconds

>>73474956
don't be an asshole, it isn't shit

>>73465731

me

>>73473575
pros:
good samples
great for composing drum patterns quickly
knob per function
essential for performance based stuff

cons:
takes up a lot of space
roland's "audio-over-usb" is actually more of an "independent audio interface" that you can't be used with other non-roland audio interfaces. There is a work around on macs, but look all of this up before you buy.

>>73474956
compared to the 1st one or just in general?

>>73474999
thank man :)

>>73474829
Oh weird man im these anons >>73474573
>>73474602,

Yea I like your stuff the slower song is much more my style the use of your sample was really effective imo, the newer version of the track fixes the only real problem I have with the track so I cant really help you with anything beyond that it sounds good keep making stuff.

And yea the acid bass were you using analog gear for that or is it a vst?

>>73475001
same

>>73475009
Thanks a lot for the information about the usb input thats really useful, ill look into that,

and yea the pros are pretty much exactly what I need how much versatility would you say it has within those samples?

>>73474956
constructive

>>73474829
this sounds good, dont listen to butt hurt fag

couple things stand out to me
- that pad that comes in around :13 sounds good when it comes in, but finishes on a bad note...maybe pitch down the entire sample some, or if it's midi, extend the pitch bend down another half step.
- some of the percussion hits might benefit if they were tuned differently. try soloing the wood blocks, hi hats, those random filler hits/claps that happen, and one of the rhythm tracks...try getting all of those elements to harmonize better, then slowly bring back in other tracks to make sure everything works together

>>73475138
hahah I thought I was already talking to you for some reason

well, I've always considered i'm better when doing slower things, much more space between each beat so it doesn't get as muddy as in techno.
The voice sample I used is from a scene in cowwboy bebop, I really liked how it got with the rest.

For the second one, the bass is a bass plugin from massive with a phaser and a bit of flanging. it's kind of difficult to make good acid basslines only with the software, but I'm glad you liked it :) I'll buy an 808 synth to get the kind of bass i'm looking for.

Btw did you post any music of yours?

Thanks for the tips man

>>73475404
great, thank you anon.
I wouldn't mind if he develloped it a bit more hahaha

The pad you mean is the one that sound like a siren right? like a sort of whoa tha end in a lower note?

I'll work on the percussion parts, because of what you said, and also some volumes and panning maybe. There's still a lot of work to do, I never manage to finnis the songs hahah

thank you again man, this really helped

>>73475138
>how much versatility would you say it has within those samples?
good amount, especially if you get the extra kits.
also, having independent outs means you can do some crazy software processing and midi maps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztJ1vl1EM-U

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how's it sounding lads?

https://clyp.it/user/onyudvef

mean to post

https://clyp.it/n55z5fjs

new version, dont know where else to improve

https://clyp.it/y5cikbtj

>>73476937
everything, samuel

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is /cute/ ok? https://clyp.it/wcfsyit2

>>73477023
go back to /gg/, virgin

>>73477704
everyone knows your sloppy playing and your shitty mixes, not only on /gg/

>>73477820
so i developed a characteristic style already, thats cool

>>73477879
you had that characteristic retardedness down pretty fast, yes

>>73477902
lol butthurt?

>>73477930
please start using a tripcode already

>>73477967
lol no?

what kind of keyboard would you guys recommend for a beginner? preferably something on the cheaper end of things since I'm kinda broke

>>73478037
I use a Samson Carbon 49, wich is quite crapy, but it's usefull for music production, not so much for playing (but its not bad) the worst thing is that the key work with a spring, so it's not very natural

>>73477967
i'm not that big of a faggot haha

>>73473069
Layerrrs dude just layer it the fuck up

>>73477688
I like this a lot anon.

>>73477688
>>73478873
Im a sucker for pretty tunes

>>73478889
thanks!

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>have 68 key weighted keyboard
>can't play half my songs on it because I run out of keys
>impulse buy this
wew I sure didn't need that $200

>>73465349
This is so funny.

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Why is it too difficult to get into production as a complete beginner?

>>73479655
because youre a whiny entitled cunt

>>73469692
Extremely cool. I book marked it.

>>73479144
>cant play half of my songs on 68 keys

half your songs are garbage over reliant on dynamics instead of actual compositional content

cool meme, cracker

>>73479655
Because it requires perserverance and you obviously lack the intellect to arrive at that conclusion.

>>73480910
glad to meet a fan homie

https://clyp.it/nnnurm0f?token=794f257f81e58022562b3b279d33faeb

Feedback? This is a new version

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>>73459487
QUESTION:

Is there a plugin or can I automate a compressor to switch on and off at a specific frequency?

i.e. I want to apply a compressor to an audio signal. I automate the compressor to switch on and off at 1hz. The compressor is on for the first half of 1 second, and then switches off for the 2nd half. Repeat for each second.

Are there any plugins out there that do this? Can I accomplish this using an LFO(applying an LFO to a compressor plugin)?

>>73483088
i think lfos can be used to midi signal
if so, you use it on the compressor automation's midi information

>>73483122
It doesn't have to be midi necessarily. I just want to be able to apply said effect to an audio signal in general.

I should mention that I'm not well informed about music production, so sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.

>>73479655
its alot of shit to take in at once

>>73483088

If your compressor has a wet/dry control you could automate between 100% dry and 100% wet at any rate you liked - I'd do that instead of automating on/off because you might get artifacts switching a compressor on and off, with an automated wet/dry you could also have a slight slope to your automation allowing for a brief crossfade if you thought the transition to compressed/uncompressed to be too jarring.

>>73483415
That makes sense. Wet/dry or on/off, it's the same to me. I only care about the end result.

>you might get artifacts switching a compressor on and off,

Why do you think I would get artifacts? Why would switching the compressor on and off create artifacts?

>>73470874
im not tryng to make a rap beat or trap beat. i just really really like those snares

>>73483872

You'd not notice it in a rendered mix but (with a VST 2 effect) switching it on and off would adjust effect delay compensation in real time during playback and you might hear glitches in your audio as the system either skips samples or repeats/interpolates them to keep the audio synced - test this yourself by switching a read-ahead effect like a VST compressor on and off while the audio is playing.

Thoughts?
https://clyp.it/j3zv15e2

working on a lil mini tape/throwaway kinda thing and this is one of the tracks
https://clyp.it/vneokopg

thoughts?

>>73484452
I like the beat it's got a nice wavy calm feeling to it
but the vocals could be a little louder that's it though

question for the lads at /prod/, how does one achieve a mix like the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlq2AekQ0Gs

there's this feeling of space, but the whole still feels "glued" without the parts encroaching on each other, which really brings out the saturation/texture of the gear he's using; like the kick and the beginning really low acid line (starting at 0:30) that feel like they should be muddying each other up but don't. i'm already pretty familiar with the basics of mixing n such but could someone explain what's going on here in terms of levels, reverb, compression, and saturation?

Can I get some feedback on this beat. I'd like some tips on EQing low frequencies, I have too many going on

>>73486065
My bad forgot the link
https://clyp.it/eozqeiwo

>>73484542
Agree with this. 1 or 2 db on the vocals

>>73486078
I usually high pass the kick at 25hz, the bass at 60hz, snare from 100hz to 150hz. Everything else that goes on the sides(synths/guitars/back vocals) I cut from 180hz up to 600hz.
Now to EQ the low frequencies you want to feel the kick hit your chest and the bass vibrate your body. Its a good idea to have to volume loud enough to feel these low frequencies. Now the frequency for the "pulse" of the kick I usually find around 120-150hz (my favorite is 132hz). The frequencies for the body of the bass will lie around 70-100hz for me. Just make sure that for every boost you do to one, you cut that same frequency for the other.

So i've been working on this 86-track beast for a month now. Would like some feedback for the overall quality of the production, especially the vocals at the end. Or anything you think should be said.

https://clyp.it/v2lgsmt2

>>73484413
Yo the beat is chill as fuck. I like the panning of the drums as well. I'd only add that theres a bit of mud in the low end of the mix but overall I like it.

>>73486486
Thanks for the info man. I have another question. On the track I posted I have 2 kicks layered as well as the snares. And the 808 with a kick. For the kick and snare would i boost/cut the same frequencies or would that not work due to them being different samples? what would i do for the 808 and kick?

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no joke, crazy frog made me realize i was gay. i rewatched all of the crazy frog videos again and again pausing whenever there was a good shot of his floppy donger. i noticed i was getting hard during one viewing, so i starting jerking off to the frog monsters little weeny. probably the best orgasm of my life, and i've been chasing that feeling ever since. I have always wanted to have sex with Crazy Frog, I have fantasied about this for many years and I have always masturbated to this thought and only this thought, I want him to hover and fly towards me until his dick makes contact with my ass hole and I scream in pleasure as he uses his frog cock to penetrate my human hole.

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Reminder for if the thread dies and someone makes a new one:

Include the new pastebin in the OP
>>73461343
>>73461343
>>73461343
>>73461343

>>73486835
Usually if i have layered drum kit pieces ill send both of them to the same track blending them to get the tone I want and then EQ'ing them together. For the kick/snare you wouldnt use the same frequencies since the snare and the kick dont usually play at the same time, you're also high passing much higher for the snare. Two tricks for the 808 and the kick: Put a gate on the kick and set the release from 200ms-300ms to make sure there are no lingering low frequencies after the initial hit. Then use side-chain compression on the 808 so it compresses every time the kick hits. Theres a lot of tutorials on that on youtube

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https://clyp.it/etqdgtm5#

new here first post just bounced like 2 mins ago only worked for like an hour

>>73489580
>https://clyp.it/etqdgtm5#
haha it's good man, you should elaborate it a bit more, change the synth a bit, it sounds a bit generic, add some drum details, bass etc and it's fine.
I imagine a guy walking around with this song

>>73489580
consider some 80s drums, it's a little weird having clean samples on this track
Also your kick is weak and clicky and bass is pretty muddy.
Sounds pretty over-compressed too
gl anon

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>>73459487
>mfw Image-Line hasn't still released 64 bit version of Soundfont Player
>mfw other soundfont players are either shit or broken

>>73488773
why do you treat the death of the thread as uncertain?

how to make this sound like a real mix? everything sounds cheaply EQd, lacking mids, too much 3~6khz, lacks weight, and isn't loud. just plain sterile. i'm remixing this crap from scratch

https://clyp.it/haz3dmfl

What's the cheapest amp for headphones lads?

Hey /prod/

what are the appropriate steps to releasing an EP?

>>73490934
process your FXs with more nuance. automation is a big part of bringing mixes to life as well.

>>73486731
Thanks for the advice man and I'm glad you liked the beat.

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>>73491887
what do you mean by nuance? what kind of automation? thanks

Has anyone played one of the new buchla easels? I was considering saving up for one but I heard the build quality on them is garbage.

>>73492603
If you want music with more "life" in it and is less static than you'll need to automate parameters in your EQs to change in different sections.

In Ableton this is a little easier than other daws, you can set a static EQ to carve out the freq ranges you want for a sound and then add an another EQ (autofilter in ableton) and automate the frequency to change and reveal more of the sound in different sections.

What i meant by "more nuance" is just simply being more clever with it and how the track unfurls. It's good to have really refined sounds, but i personally feel it's better when a track unravels it's self and the full picture isn't clear until later.

>>73487864

best post ever

>>73486596
>https://clyp.it/v2lgsmt2

sorry, this isn't music

>>73489580
minecraft channel intro core. that melody line would be a 8/10 acid riff though.

>>73487864
what the fuck

>>73487864
*hold a sporp*

Can anyone here explain to me like I'm an especially retarded 12-year-old how you can identify one thing as poorly mastered and another as being good? All I (think I) know is that mastering is putting the mix from its original source onto some sort of storage device that's used as the final thing that copies come from.
I don't get how you can do that wrong because it sounds like it's just transferring files basically, but then again, I know jack shit about music production -- I hardly even know what signals that an album is well- or badly-produced.

>>73493985
>mastering is putting the mix from its original source onto some sort of storage device that's used as the final thing that copies come from
the fuck? who told you that that's what mastering means? transferring files is not mastering, mastering is any final eq/compression/other effects/level adjustment you do to the final mixes (usually done with a stereo audio file of the song, as opposed to mixing which refers to the processing and balancing of all the elements in the song with everything still broken down into individual tracks). good mastering=those final steps were done well and enhanced the mixes
bad mastering=those final steps were done poorly and either didnt bring out the full potential or actively made it worse

>>73493985
that's a bit load of crap m8.

>>73490873
I meant if the thread dies overnight while was asleep

>>73493985
>this is supposed to be bait

>>73495145
or is it?

>>73495012
>>73495145
I don't get how you would think that's bait, I DID ask for someone to explain it to me like a retarded child because I don't know a thing about it.

>>73494906
Thanks m8; I'll let my friend who thinks he knows music production know that he's a dumbass.

>>73495253
dude, VERY basic explanation (that you can find on the internet): Compression as in the ''last'' phase of music creation, is a part of what is called Mastering (compression can also be done track by track but i'll leave this out). If you have a finnished track that you want to compress, what you're going to do is leveling the signal you're getting from you master track. What I mean is that sometimes you have your track but the volume, intensity, level... changes a lot through the song, with mastering what you do is reduce the loud parts much more than the more silent parts (only with volume you would reduce/increase the WHOLE signal), by using threshold, ratio etc. you have to find the settings that fit the song (depending on your skills and choices..).
For example, if a singer changes his position to the mic during the recording, then obviously some parts will be much louder than others, with compression you will level this, reducing the loud parts much more than the more silent ones (wich may even stay the same, depending on your settings). so if you see the spectre of the uncompressed song, the difference between the loud/silent parts will be much bigger than the compressed ones.

This is a really basic explanation, there is much more with compression than just this, but i guess it's good for a begginer to start understanding it.

hope I helped somehow.

>>73495448
You did -- all good to know. I've just got to find a book on music production I think, because it does interest me but I know basically nothing about it. Cheers!

>>73495448
If you're talking about moment to moment variations in level then yes compression is used to smooth those out in mastering. If you meant certain sections being louder than others, it's easier and more transparent to just reduce the gain of those sections or to use volume automation.

>>73495565
Check out the pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/08mwwiAV

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AYOO WE BE MUSIC MAKIN KANGZ N SHEIT

>>73495619
Oh hey, that's awesome, thanks man!

https://clyp.it/0krxndpp
r8 me

>>73495565
no problem man :)

It's just spending a lot of time on it, you can't learn a language in a month, same with music production and everything.

Start playing with it, doing whatever you think is nice, and don't spend too much time on the mastering part, it'll come alone. A lot of professional musicians pay people to master their songs, so don't be stressed hahah

is fl studio a meme or is it actually good?

>>73496540
it's good, no matter what they say.

Too many ableton snobs don't give it the credit it deserves. you can really make professional music if you master the software.

I use both ableton and FL, and at the end it's jusst the interface and a few minor changes, but I guess I would say ableton is better, faster, and more complete.

Download a shit ton of samples and plugins if you use flstudio, that's my advice :)

>>73496627
thank you, i was anxious about my purchase

>>73496627
why, if you have ableton then don't download shit?

>>73493280
gr8 b8 m8

>>73495690
they had to have known about the meme. There's no way someone would spell kings like that without knowing the meme

What's the best way to mix rap vocals on FL studio?

>>73496924
I got you dude.
https://theproaudiofiles.com/mixing-hip-hop-beats/

WHAT ARE SOME CREATIVE WAYS TO FIND INSPIRATION?

I'm a fucking retarded robot today.

>>73497275
take adderall

>>73497367
>>73497275
I'd say adderall is only good for chop building wether it be production or an instrument. Smoke weed to make the original shit come out

>>73497367
>>73497535
jenkem is better

How is this thread still alive. Prod threads never last this long

>>73497535
I find adderall works better than anything for getting a lot of great ideas out fast. For me it feels like it just opens the flood gates. It might be because it makes me think everything I do is good, so rather than getting halfway through something and throwing it out because I think it's shit, I actually complete it. But I also feel like I come up with more stuff

>>73497634
Thats a good point. I have my own supply but its extended release and im not down to be twacked the fuck out for 10 hours. I'll have to try that one day though.

>>73497770
Get a pill crusher and smash them shiets

>>73497367
>>73497535

I take 40 MG of Adderall every day.

>>73497813
I take it once every couple months so I assume the effect is quite different

>>73497793
Musicians always know whats up with the drugs

>>73497913
>>73497813
Oh I just realized you're the guy who asked for creative advice, and you're saying you already take adderall. Guess you're shit outta luck

>>73497946
He could try mushrooms or LSD. I wrote some raelly crazy shit on it.

>>73497946
Haha, right?

>>73497978
That might not be a bad idea, but I don't have any right now and I'm just struggling for today.

>>73497978
>>73498044
>>73497946
>>73497915
>>73497813
>>73497793
>>73497770
>>73497634
>>73497579
>>73497535
>>73497367
>>73497275
ITT: Plebeians who think taking drugs will stop them being shitty talentless plebs

You realise musicians who took drugs had talent first, yes?
Drugs won't do shit unless you're already talented. They'll just fuck you up.

You faggots all sound 18 years old and I bet none of you have ever created anything even remotely decent

https://clyp.it/d0lndxrd

working on this. Im redoing all the drum tracks, but I suck so much at it

>>73498177
I'm 20, and I have never made anything decent, like you said.

I have the passion and desire, just no talent.

And today, no ideas.

>>73466460
>(I've listened to thousands of hours of it that is what makes me say this)
>Garbage, all of it.

>>73498177
You are blisteringly retarded if you think that drugs cannot be used to enhance performance in various areas of creativity. Obviously you have to have talent; that's a given. The caveat of "but all this advice is meaningless if you don't have the talent in the first place" is a basic axiom that doesn't even need to be mentioned because of how obvious it is. Swiftly die

>>73498177
Try me.
https://clyp.it/qiknbydy
Not me rapping btw.

>>73498177
remember, if you are the arbiter of what it takes to be creative and how to best do it, you need to post an example of your work. You won't, though. Because you're not.

>>73498302
Theres a bit of mud in the low end. But my usual approach to drum tracks is to have the snare and kick up front and the hats/cymbals behind them. You can also get more punch out of the snare/kick by using parallel compression. But overall its really good so far.

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how the fuck do you change filter type in sylenth1

i tried clicking it and dragging it up and down

>>73499609
You click inside the box with the visual filter display and drag up or down with your mouse, making sure to hold down the button while you're doing so and the filter should change type.

>>73499255
Thank you, m8. Googling parallel compression right away

>>73499712
oh, with mine you have to go all the way down and up for it to move. its weird. thanks man!