/classical/

Give me some solo horn/trumpet/trombone pieces please :^)

thank you

>>73433693
>needing an english language version
plen

>>73433693
Stop forgetting the goddamn links
>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes recordings of music by Bach, Mozart and others
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix
https://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #7. Too lazy to write up a description for this, but it has a little of everything
https://mega.nz/#F!pWR0zABY!xCwF1rEfXiyEy5HuhTDP0Q
>General Folder #8. The beautiful, elegant, intelligent anon who made this, added a little of everything in here. There's a lot of Deutsche Gramophone recordings too.
https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy. There is an accompanying chart, available on request.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw

>>73433764
>Fat stack of music articles and books
https://mega.nz/#F!1SxWnaxR!0mJqEg_uL-AhxEV4AlxhnA

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Is the music starting at 0:42 a known composition or just some trailer music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY392wxb2Wk

>>73433934
Sounds like film music written in the style of Vivaldi but with more modern "simple" major cadences

Vivaldi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw-xI5m9TCI

Gigli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_OoXcsOpg

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Any other composers around? We used to have a /comp/ general but it died again

>>73434681
Now and then we're honored with the visit of a new next-Beethoven neet who's just starting out in his mid 20s.

Stockhausen here
AMA

Adams here
AMA

Petzold here
AMA

>>73434818
>>73434841
>>73434893

How's it going?

>>73434893
What are your thoughts on Adams and Stockhausen?

>>73434910
fine
>>73434914
they're ok

>>73434910
It's ok being dead n all
chillin with de boyzz boulez n schoenberg

>>73434947
whaddayamean they're ok?!

>>73434779
Top kek

I guess that means no then

p.s. I'm not the next beethoven - rather the new Stravinsky

>>73433693
great idea for a thread
t. anon who asked about 12-tone and atonal music in the last thread

Was Beethoven the next Mozart of his time? Was Debussy the next Beethoven of his time?

What does /classical/ think of Christophe Bertrand?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLLamxVwAT0
I heard Boulez was conducting pieces of his when Bertrand was only 23. He necked himself at 29.
>Christophe Bertrand was a French pianist and composer of mainly chamber works born in 1981. After earning gold medals for piano and chamber music at the Strasbourg Conservatoire, he performed and recorded with the Ensemble Accroche-Note and the Ensemble In Extremis of which he was a co-founder. He collaborated with composers such as Ivan Fedele and Pascal Dusapin.
>He studied composition since 1996, under the supervision of Ivan Fedele at the Strasbourg Conservatoire, obtaining with distinction his diploma in 2000.
>His compositions, conducted among others by Pierre Boulez, Jonathan Nott, Hannu Lintu, Marc Albrecht have been performed by several ensembles and soloists such as the Ensemble Intercontemporain, Arditti Quartet and the Orchestre philharmonique de Strasbourg.
>His compositions have been played internationally, amongst others in:
>France: Festival Musica, IRCAM, Festival d'Aix-en-Provence, Festival Agora, Centre Georges Pompidou, Salle Olivier Messiaen de la Maison de Radio France, etc.
>Germany: Beethovenfest Bonn, Ultraschall-Festival à Berlin, Internationale Ferienkurse in Darmstadt, Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk
>Switzerland: Lucerne Festival
>Belgium: Ars Musica in Brussels
>Italy: Festival Traiettorie in Parma, Rondo-Milano, Spoleto Festival
>The Netherlands: Gaudeamus Festival in Amsterdam
>The USA (San Francisco), in the United Kingdom (Manchester), in Slovenia (Ljubljana)
>French radio channel France Musique provided his compositions airtime.
>He committed suicide in September 2010.
Is he the real deal or merely a meme that burnt out early on?

>>73435538
Mozart was the Michael Jackson of his time: a child prodigy that was heavily shilled, by the time he got to his mature works his fame had waned somewhat. He was just one of many working at the time. Beethoven had more of a slow steady rise to fame.

>>73435538
no and no. Beethoven was like Mozart on steroidz xDDDD
t. ya nigga claude grabembydebussy

>>73433693
Correction
Everything you need to know about atonal music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgFlbgwWf94

>>73433693
What's the name of the composer of the excerpt around 4:04? I can't understand the name

>>73435791
Holy shit what an absolute fucking fantastic piece of bait

>>73435584
dunno. this piece is pretty awesome though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unp0spwY6Ww

Franck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLb01zNDNIk

This overture is Wagner's best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdesB8AxC-M
Prove me wrong.

>>73435861
Karol Beffa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTa864QbrQ8

>>73433693
>you silly boy

>>73436978
>not the Lohengrin Overture
>not the Tannhauser Overture
>not even the Rheingold Prelude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd_K8IlRDCY


>only ban that matters in 2017

petzold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkuo2384ZN4

Music sucks.

>>73440080
I think you meant Mozart sucks. Yes, I agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMeFbCwasKI

>tfw no cute polish Soprano gf

>>73433764
I was searching for this, thank you!

>>73440920
I like Mozart.

>>73441272
psyduck is my favorite pokemon

>>73441384
What's your point?

>>73440920
I like mozart.

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>>73433693
Will someone give my criticism on this short piano flute piece I composed?

https://m.soundcloud.com/sean-orourke-377966223/the-shadow

>>73440920
i like mozart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FSN8_pp_o

>>73441403
Would you ever ride a donkey? It looks like fun.

>>73441791
Unfortunately not small enough.

>>73441816
Even our lard jesus christ rode a donkey, they are pretty tough little suckers, you have to be a real fatso if a donkey couldn't handle you.

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>>73434681
I'm a composer here is one of my works for piano and flute https://m.soundcloud.com/sean-orourke-377966223/reconciliation

>>73441852
You know what I might give it a shot.

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>>73433713
No fuck you. That is the worst set for a musical performance I have heard of. Kill yourself. You disgust me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnfApTtzJmk

>>73433934
probably that buffoon Nyman or some other hack.

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>>73435791
>imblying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd0dMs0MTg8

>>73442139
>Corre Berg!

>>73442233
nice digits
>Deita Berg!

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>>73441515
newagey celtic trash

>>73441872
Restaurant music

conclusion: No discernible talent

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>>73434315
Subpar interpretation
https://youtu.be/hggISFswKcw

>>73442342
What's wrong with Celtic music?

You racist lad?

>>73442342
Also would you post one of your compositions? I want to see how brilliant you are.

Anyone know what piece the backing track to this song is based off of? Couldn't care less about the Moonman part, but the background classical piece is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22RUFo71oeY

>>73443679
This isn't even classical...

>>73444519

Jazz is...

http://www.strawpoll.me/13227085

http://www.strawpoll.me/13227085

http://www.strawpoll.me/13227085

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Atonal music is degenerate.

Do not listen to this fucking kike trash!

>>73434681
I'm usually around somewhere. Just finished another fugue...

Geminiani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-VeJc5UC0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvfC7n4-6tQ

kotrab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejC2eI850gg

>>73444478
Yeah, no doubt. The actual song is trash, I'd just like to find the backing track without the drums and computer voice.

h: civo-kat so; h.s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5ohobcKb8

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>>73446125
>that abysmal quality
>that abysmal timbre of classical nylon guitar
https://youtu.be/IeQvBygqRIg

>>73446629
Wonderful.

>Just remember that Dmtri Shostakovich dedicated his music to all his friend and people who were victims in the Nazi holocaust. Each piece of his music is a tombstone to honor their souls.
wtf I hate shostakovich now

>>73446792
>all his friend and people who were victims in the Nazi holocaust
Don't you mean Stalinist holocaust? Stalin killed more civilians than Hitler remember?
Siege of Leningrad was bad, but a life of terror under Stalin is even worse - after the war he executed many of the people who struggled in Leningrad simply because they were starting to have their own ideas.

>>73446909
not my description got it from someone's youtube video. dk if it's true or not.

>>73446969
Its not true. Shostakovich dedicated his work to a variety of people, from Lenin to members of the Beethoven String Quartet, to the suffering people of Leningrad. He probably even dedicated some works to Stalin just to suck up

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>>73443608
Those who don't do, bitch :^)

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What is the official cryptocurrency of /classical/?
My vote is for Golem.

>>73447277
we always like the oldest, so bitcoin

>>73447325
Fair enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospt12EfW-w

>>73447277
Petzoldcoin

Thoughts on Erik Tulindberg?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ks0mkFs04o

>>73446629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiFZYJGRby8

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>>73447677
Stop it.

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Favorite performance of Beethoven's 8th aka /oursymphony/?
I usually listen to the Karajan recording, haven't heard to many others. Here is Barenboim conducting. What are your thoughts on him as a conductor, him with this piece, and best versions of this piece?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr3lsI4OVis

copy pasta:
LVB
17th December 1770 - 26th March 1827.

Beethoven's First premiered 1800, 2nd April, some sketches from 1795.
Beethoven's Second finished in 1802. started 1801.
Beethoven's Third finished in 1804
Beethoven's Forth finished in 1806
Beethoven's Fifth finished in 1808, started in 1804.
Beethoven's Sixth finished in 1808
Beethoven's Seventh finished in 1812. Started in 1811.
Beethoven's Eight finished in 1812. Started in the summer of 1812 immediately upon the completion of the 7th.
Beethoven's Ninth finished in 1824.
In the year 1812when Beethoven's Eighht was completed: Charles Dickens was born and Spencer Perceval (Uk PM) was assassinated.
You are invited to add significant events of 1812. TY

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rec me some tallis

>>73448655
Sperm in Alien.

>>73448686
recording?

>>73448655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otB1TQo0OGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbczcKGgcwM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-kliv8zHRA

>>73441852
>Even our lard
What did he mean by this?

>>73443679
That's not classical. It's some negro jazz hip hop rap thing.

>>73449114
this. f off with that judeo-nigger shit.

>>73441872
>c.assical music is too old
kek

Hi /classical/,

I know little to nothing about classical music, but I've been listening to and enjoying it as more than just background study music lately. I've just been listening to Spotify's selections of classical, and have enjoyed stuff by Bach, Wagner, and Brahms. I seem to enjoy orchestral work more than solo or small group recordings. Where do I go from here? And how do you go about choosing which recording to listen to?

>>73450895
Watch youtube videos and follow the recommended links. Watch documentaries on composers you like, read wikipedia articles on composers you like and see who their contemporaries were of who they were influenced by and who they influenced. Look up those composers and look at their Wikipedia pages, etc.
As for recordings, don't worry too much about this to start with. You won't really notice the difference between recordings until you are intimately familiar with a piece.

Use some initiative man.
Look at this and check out other composers from eras you enjoy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_classical_music_composers_by_era

>>73450895
Listen to Petzold

In the spirit of >>73434744 - what is the most beautiful piece or what are the most beautiful pieces you know?

>>73451312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzSlmWQuHFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRfF7W4El60

petzold

>>73451661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg-0DFNTBm0

Any Haydn fans here? I'm going through all his symphonies. Currently at no. 55. Have also listened to some of the higher numbers, like I think no. 103 was the first Haydn symphony I heard and it got me hooked. Sadly the recording I listened to isn't on youtube anymore, and I haven't found it anywhere else either. It was with Ton Koopman as conductor and it has two or three little blemishes in the recording but I like it better than other versions. I'm really liking the last movement of no. 55:
https://youtu.be/Fm2psXQZVE0?t=21m33s

>>73453445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyiDgsIFzIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUfj3aJonrs

I really don't get the Messiaen Turangalîla Symphony. Why do people listen to stuff like this? It's a bunch of disjointed, atonal noises. There's so many artists who do stuff like this too, like Ligeti, Schoenberg, Scelsi, Varese, Schittke. The worst of them is Xenakis, his music is so horrible. Why did classical music have to turn into this atonal garbage, minimalist garbage, or fucking video game and movie soundtracks? The classical tradition is really dead. Maybe some years down the road people will realize what a great thing they had, and then there will be a classical revival.

>>73451312
Pachelbel - Canon in D

Bach - Air

Beethoven - Fur Elise

>>73454057
>Haydn was base
Thanks for informing me. Instantly have a lower view of him.

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>>73454159
>Why did classical music have to turn into this atonal garbage
''Atonal'' is such a broad category, you're mostly referring to compositional techniques that other instrumentists and composers love.
You don't love them, but unlike them you and the rest of the generic public are completely uncapable of promoting anything of value. Do you think that Beethoven and Mozart got famous in conservatories? Do you think that academic music 200-100 years ago was interesting in the slightest? It's mostly as dull as possible.

>minimalist garbage
It's a rebellion against certain 20th century composition schools.

>or fucking video game and movie soundtracks? The classical tradition is really dead.
Because non-musicias are fucking pleb and they'll give money only to these people. Blame both the game and the player.

>Maybe some years down the road people will realize what a great thing they had, and then there will be a classical revival.
God, what a pleb.

>>73433693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBLXNf84_AQ

>tfw Ravel had a secret room in which he would keep scores, reviews, books on music and porn

Gonna learn French and visit his house just to see what's the literature he was self-conscious about. Sorry Maurice.

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>>73454159

>>73448512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKM_fiX2oFg

>>73454159
>>73435791

>>73454159
>Turangalila
>Atonal
Lmao

>>73456105
there's twelve-tone material/serial influence in turangalila for sure. definitely dominated by lush, romantic harmonies though.

>>73448512
Scherchen

>>73454904
>God, what a pleb.
How am I a pleb for wanting there to be a classical revival? Maybe I'm just dreaming to big, hoping that the general public would rally behind a noble cause. Look at the way society is right now, people are going fucking crazy, the public can't even begin a dialog where both sides accept and agree on a list of facts before having an argument. Yet, I somehow expect this shit show of a planet to develop taste in music that appeals to more than the basest desires, and takes more than a goldfish attention span to appreciate. Human beings in general are just absolute retards, and something I've learned since the election of donald trump, there's absolutely nothing that I or anyone can do to change that. The basest instincts of man, and the massive swath of general public who are on a lower conscious level will never go away, because that's just part of human nature.

>>73458161
cringe

>>73458263
Please explain in extreme detail why what I just said makes you cringe.

>>73458282
cringe

Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIdfnUqU3jA

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>>73433764
Thank you good sir

>>73458161
lmao

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>mfw bolero
>mfw it's babby pleb stuff and I don't even care

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>>73448558
>tfw you feel close to December composers like Beethoven, Messiaen, Franck, Webern and Macdowell because your a Dec baby yourself

Master race Sagittarius reporting in

>>73458352
Oh come on. I would have taken the opportunity to explain it if someone asked me. I guess you don't have an actual reason. You're just as confused and lost as all the rest.

>>73458161
Trump is the Bach of U.S. presidential candidates. Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

t. God

>>73458821
Petzold

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classical btfo by pop once again

>>73460279
Yet another reason to hate the human race. It's only a drop in the ocean at this point though.

>>73460279
I would not be upset if I learned through the news that this person was beaten mercilessly by an unknown assailant who was never caught.

>>73460446
And left to die in the street, blood oozing from their body like a watermelon.

>>73448694
Kronos String Quartet (with massive overdubs)

>>73433693
I don't need to know anything about atonal music, except to avoid it.

>>73460725
>I don't know anything
ftfy

Thoughts on The Lark Ascending?

>>73451312
Nimrod.

>>73460279
>Beethoven
>Frank Ocean
both of them were black so who cares, same filth

if anything, beethoven is worse because he invented jazz

>>73433713
Takashi Yoshimatsu: Trombone concerto ''Orion Machine''

>>73445626
eat shit fucking faggot

>>73461622
too bad your dad's black too

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>>73435609
>grabembydebussy

>>73454159
Turangalia is usually hated on by plebs who think it's too romantic, get good

What's the best British bit of music?

>>73462497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXfnO4mlikw

>>73462530
>Handel
>British

lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4QrJc3VQDo

Give me your favourite historical recordings of anything in particular.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VAwFGTa5rs

>>73463649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVcfTzw9BRo

>>73463649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFs85pLmj4

First time checking one of these threads, how pleb is my taste

https://youtu.be/vbl-5AGaRWw

https://youtu.be/HtDkbtkVFxY

https://youtu.be/Pfnkz1cFp8g

>>73463649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBSCdt2bI5A

>>73463649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwQYnz6WZ2Y

id rev et nom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6tJWY2Vaz4

hola mis amigos. me llamo verdi. verdi de monte. qua pasa guey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxBT1pfVAKQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09vv37V2-zQ

bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBQlvBs3qFs

>>73463780
gay

Johan Sebastian "You have to go" Bach

>>73463649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q02EymNvtw

>>73466469
bretty good, 4 a gril

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI3UDcY4hi4
hwere can i find more classical like this????

>>73466006

so fucking dumb but i admit i lol'd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dVkFsQfQmA

bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueN-U7ep61I

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Rate my Classical. I am new to the genre. Yes I know ragtime isnt Classical but I cannot put it anywhere else and it is very old

>>73467483
>wagnuh
yeah i can tell youre new to classical

>>73467613
Whats wrong with him

>>73467618
everything

>>73467643
t. jew

>>73458161
There already was a classical revival - see "neoclassical composers" Stravinsky went there.

>>73460279
>Frank Ocean's "Pyramids" is the Beethoven's 5th symphony of the 21st century
So there was little critical response to the premiere, the performers only had 1 rehearsal and had to be stopped and re-started after making mistakes? You would think 200 years later people would be more understanding of how important thorough rehearsals are.

>>73467483
Nothing to rate about the most mainstream composers. You need to branch out into renaissance period and anything 20th century that isn't Stravinsky or Debussy.

>>73463800
Pleb is wanting to be rated on your taste. Enjoy what you want, don't give a fuck what people think.

>>73467732
>Nothing to rate about the most mainstream composers. You need to branch out into renaissance period and anything 20th century that isn't Stravinsky or Debussy.
Can you recommend something

>>73467742
Renaissance:
Palestrina, Victoria, Morales, Tallis, Josquin, Gesualdo, Lassus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGbtqUGVnY

20th century:
Schoenberg, Penderecki, Bartok, Schnittke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATQIBolNstc

>>73467787
>Schnittke
FUUUUUCCCCKKKK OFFFFF POOOOLY

also best movement ii is the best movement of concerto for orchestra

>Schnittke shilling in 2017
Embarrassing desu

>>73467787
Going through some Bartok, I dont like it man. It makes me nervous or scared like tons of violins will pop out of nowhere. I cant imagine ever wanting to listen to this when so much else is available. Its so grating

>>73467970
yeah that nigger sucks monkey dicks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F7TVM8m95Y

>>73468068
it's supposed 2 make u ? ur precuntceived notions lol

>>73468137
Well I like my preconceived notions just how they are thank you very much

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>>73468068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vi3GHknoxA

If u cant get into this then u suck dicks

>>73468155
lel

>>73468168
He uses too many high pitches or shrill sounds for my liking but I can see the appeal. Its just not for me

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>>73468199
Ur a fucking pleb then

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>>73468230
Some of us are doctors, some of us are soldiers, some of us are parents. I am a pleb. Woe is me

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>>73468155
>>73468199
chexxxed
listen to his string quartets, multiple times, and don't talk about what you don't like until you achieve patrician status and you like them.
t. bratoks grandnephew

>>73468279
Are you actually bra

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>>73468279
>trying to get people into bartok via his string quartets
u have to start them off with the easy stuff. piano concerti and orchestral works

>>73468300
eh u right u right. checked'd
>>73468286
I wish bra

>>73467890
That movement is great. The whole thing is great really. Just the first movement takes a while to get going so not ideal for an introduction to Bartok.

>>73467970
>2017
>Still can't into Schnittke
Get with the program

>>73468168
14:00 gets me into a nice place

>>73442255
>nice digits

>>73469088
>nice digits

check my 8

>>73467732
>So there was little critical response to the premiere, the performers only had 1 rehearsal and had to be stopped and re-started after making mistakes? You would think 200 years later people would be more understanding of how important thorough rehearsals are.
nice

>>73458161
>How am I a pleb for wanting there to be a classical revival?
Because there have already been countless classical revivals. If you REALLY like Beethoven you're lucky, there are like a million other composers who sound exactly like him. If you are really interested in classical music and its derivates rejoice, for you need multiple lifetimes to fully explore it.

>hoping that the general public would rally behind a noble cause.
The public has NEVER done it, apart from italians and Italian opera. Before the 18th century composers mostly had patrons in the aristocracy, in the 19th century they either had aristocratic/bourgeoise patron or they paid their rent by writing music for amateurs (mostly 4 hands piano music: Brahms and Schumann earned most of their living through these compositions, and sneaked the other, more complex ones, at a financial loss), in the 20th century either you are in academia or you starve, since no one in the pubic, not even you, care enough about music to support those composers that so clearly meet your standards.
You subject art to the free market, and expect composers to compose the music you want to hear (which disqualifies them from teaching positions, the only stable jobs in the market), and if they don't earn enough to pay for their basic expenses, you don't give a fuck and just keep pretending that at some point in history the public actually cared about their most revered composers.

>The basest instincts of man, and the massive swath of general public who are on a lower conscious level will never go away, because that's just part of human nature.
Or maybe most people just don't care about music, and the idea of putting the financial destiny of the entire art industry into the hands of the general population, which is generally completely uninterested, is just downright insane.

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Will anyone be able to top him?

>>73469726
People had topped him even before he was born.

>>73469748
t. pleb

>>73433713
Ewazen Horn Sonata

>>73469767
Mendelssohn is low on the list of great composers. When you mature, you'll understand.

>>73469700
why don't they just trade cryptocurrency in the current year then they can have enough to get by without doing actual work and they can write their brilliant 21st century stuff and become rich and famous like a rock star and fuck all the sloots who pretend to be cultured. ?

>>73470058
>composers deserve food only if they also manage to get savvy on cryptocurrency and internet-related fads

See? Music is not enough for you to think about supporting even one of them. If they have to be on their own, then you should be on your own too. You've lost your right to complain.

>>73470078
I have supported artists pal. However, most "artists" nowdays tend to be leftist faggots (including those I've supported in the past), and I'd sooner throw them out of a helicopter than supporter them now. They can fucking work like the rest of us. If they put out good shit niggers will support it. I'm sick of whiny babies who can't make it in the free market. Artists nowadays at least tend to be despicable excuses for men let alone human beings. Get a job freelance teaching others shit on skype. Teach church kids. Fucking be creative. If you are innovative you can make it. Many artists now tend to be commie faggot betamales because they know no one would support their shit on the free market without it being heavily shilled by wealthy "grass roots" support, lol, or financed by their parents.

>>73470119
than support them now*
I'm tired of people crying about why little guys like me should bankroll their lives without providing anything of value. Fucking call up the wealthy plutocrats who you love and shill for and have them pay for your atonal Talmudic trash.

>>73470058
There's quite a bit of support for composers these days. Composer in residence positions, commissions, as well as the usual teaching positions at various universities and academies.

>>73470119
Sounds like none of the 'artists' you know are actually professional composers.

>>73470162
>Sounds like none of the 'artists' you know are actually professional composers.
debatable (that may be the source of the problem). but point taken friend.

>>73469992
t. hitler

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>>73470119
>However, most "artists" nowdays tend to be leftist faggots (including those I've supported in the past), and I'd sooner throw them out of a helicopter than supporter them now.
Then you simply don't know what you're talking about.

>They can fucking work like the rest of us.
So let me understand: you want composers to compose on the level of Mozart and Beethoven, but you also want them to have jobs on the side, in an age in which all those sidejobs that were once available to musicians are now gone? Fuck scientists, they could work like the rest of us, I guess.

>I'm sick of whiny babies who can't make it in the free market.
Like Beethoven and Mahler, and virtually every composer who came before the 19th century? The free market never behaved in the way you're imagining, but you're probably too devoid of art, inspiration and sensibility to see it.

>If they put out good shit niggers will support it.
Sure, if you're willing to discard the validity of music history in its entirety.

>Get a job freelance teaching others shit on skype.
Composers usually have to live in big cities in order to communicate and work with as many musicians as possible, and this usually implies high basic expenses that can be barely covered by teaching full time. On top of that you also want them to compose lots of masterpieces.
But I guess I'm the naive one here for not believing in Free Market™ applied to art.

>Fucking be creative. If you are innovative you can make it.
Every musician on this general is now laughing at you. You're clueless on how art industry actually works.
>>73470140

The compositions is what composers provide. To do so they usually spend their entire lives studying carefully everything there is to now about the art. You can't be Beethoven in your spare time, nor you can be Beethoven in a conservatory: if the public wants another Beethoven they have to aknowledge it.

>>73469726
in terms of talent at the age of 14, probably not. in terms of peak talent at any point during a life, other composers have absolutely got him beat.

>>73470304
Mention one

Recently discovered Giovanni Legrenzi. Didn't know 17th century was that good.

>>73470396
JS Bach.

>>73437252
>not parsifal overture
Pleb

I don't get these posts. Is this guy baiting, or is he actually holding these beliefs? Does this guy really think that everything that is atonal is part of some sort of 100-years old global marxist conspiracy?

>>73471077
Yes. Gesualdo was part of it, too.
He started with the first cracks in the world of tonal music and harvested the blood energy of the wife and her lover that he killed and then establishing a secret society of composers that degenerated music and harvesting the blood energy of innocent people to serve their perverse jewish pseudo-satanist commierituals.

>>73471077
Forgot to quote this post >>73470119

>>73470217
For jews, both Mahler and Schoenberg are better than Mendelssohn.

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>>73470162
>professional composers

>>73471400
What's the matter, never met one? They exist all over the world - you just have to be part of the classical community to get to know them.

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>>73471447
>the classical community

>>73471447
People in academia are not professional composers, they're closer to scientists.
There is no such thing as a professional composer, not in this society.

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>>73471184
>Mahler and Schoenberg are better than Mendelssohn

Is the unison at the end of the second section of the Grosse Fuge the greatest melodic moment in history?

>>73463649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Ztjt7JuUY

>>73458161
tl;dr

>>73460446
Wow. Hold on to the edge.

>>73462497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ScybMWynE

>>73467483
Joplin's stuff especially Treemonisha is considered western art music.

>>73470633
extraterrestrials don't count

>>73471500
So Glass and Part and Williams and Rihm etc are just dabbling amateurs?

Who are the most underrated composers of the romantic era?

>>73471772
Yes, unironically.

>>73469700
Very good post anon. I am the person you responded to btw.

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>>73471772
>So Glass and Part and Williams and Rihm etc are just dabbling amateurs?

>>73471772
Yes, in the same way Jimi Hendrix was an amateur.

>>73471794
what's their day jobs

>>73471846
They were NEETs.
Had they been born in 1993 they would have posted most of their tracks on soundcloud as shitty FL Studio pieces no one really cares about.

>>73471846
Don't waste your time, these people only understand the word amateur from all the porn they watch.

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>>73471897

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>>73472217

Damn son

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>classical music

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>>73471897
>>73472217

>>73471500
Some professional composers are in academia, some are not. By Professional, I mean someone who is regularly commissioned, or given grants to write and premiere new works. If you knew what you were talking about (you don't) you would know these people exist all over the world.

>>73471487
It exists. Sounds like perhaps you believe it doesn't? Try going outside or going to a university or classical performance or something The classical community is all the composers, performers, conductors and musicologists who work with classical music. They are all over the place - they are the reason there are new recordings made, performances given and pieces written. Many of them also help to educate the next generation.

>>73472217
This is what the people posting laughing women come across as when trying to discuss classical music. Painfully amateur in their understanding of what's out there.

>>73472217
and which of those meanings is the opposite of professional

>>73471778
Anton Arenksy, Hans von Bülow, Max Bruch

>>73463800
Your taste is fairly good.

Hey guys here is one of various takes (not the strongest nor weakest but all I had timt to put together) of a piece of mine, closer to the end of the day, people were tired

Would love feedback of any kind

Scored for:
Piano
Horn
Violin

Some notes: Piece is hard to play, lot harder than I imagined when writing it. My horn player plays for the cities grand opera and she struggled here and there

https://clyp.it/tj5he4vq

>>73471843
>>73471833
>>73471794

Lmao you guys are full of shit

>>73470218
>everything there is to now
>to now
>now

>>73471719
shart*
ftfy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08v8tm1

Check out the 30:55 mark

>>73474466
rofl i ain't givin' dem kikes ad rev u nigger nog

>>73474466
fuck off cuck

>>73474466
What am I listening for?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MCh-CumAg4

big money hustla btk killa aka bartok bar tokin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Qs_W6zIX8

>>73474949
ayyyy ayyy nigga
>>73474949

>>73474933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yp7uWMDzOk

is this /classy-cal/ approved? vote yes or no

https://youtu.be/Zy2m496y9iw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py_uEHL-la4&feature=youtu.be

>>73475037
I vote fuck off.

>>73475278
to me or simmer. nobully plx XDDDD

>>73474933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LbxHzKPrHU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3REhHukPng

what period or style do I need to look for in order to find stuff similar to track 15?

>>73472475
>By Professional, I mean someone who is regularly commissioned, or given grants to write and premiere new works. If you knew what you were talking about (you don't) you would know these people exist all over the world.

Sorry, I thought you were talking about actual, serious composers. Yes, in that sense even the videogame industry is enough to justify your claim, while also making it so generic that it becomes useless.

This was your first post
>There's quite a bit of support for composers these days. Composer in residence positions, commissions, as well as the usual teaching positions at various universities and academies.

and you were referring to a series of posts that was centered about the fate of great composers in contemporary society. Considering that the guy I was responding to (I'm not the guy who was fixated with leftist atonal conspiracies) was looking for a new Bach or Beethoven, your correction is of no value.

Still, if you want to chime in and expand on the topic I'll be happy to discuss with you.

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>>73474949
That allegro is god tier Bartok

>>73434681
Crudblud makes interesting music but he doesn't post here anymore.

>>73476587
dyel?

>>73475694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkvm9eF93QQ

Also listen to Il Canto Sospeso, although it is far less choral.

>>73461057
gud

>>73465211
morro puñetas

>>73463649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqEgbmNcNww

faure plays faure

>>73477400
If he died in 1924, how is this recording quality so good?

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>>73477520
It is a piano roll on a modern instrument.

>>73477400
goat fauré, manly fauré
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3QV2ADmf1o

>>73477590
How does that work? Sorry for being ignorant, I don't know anything about pianos really.
Did he "record" himself into the piano roll which then can be replayed which then plays what he played?

>>73477826
he plays the piece and a scribe writes a sacred scroll afterwards

>>73477826
He played a piano that recorded his keypresses, that was turned into a punched sheet roll and then could be easilly played back. There were several competing systems for this and quite a few famous composers produced rolls: Debussy, Mahler, Reger, Rachmaninov, Saint-Saens etc.

Exactly how the keypresses were transcribed was a trade secret and there is no real guarantee that it was accurate, sounded anything like the composer's performance or even just wasn't an elaborate fraud.

>>73478203
Interesting, you learn something new everyday.
So you're saying piano roll recordings should be taken with a grain of salt?

>tfw 25 and still dont know how to play an instrument
is it too late for me bros? will I ever git gud?

>>73479973
Cheer up anon, it's never too late to learn, you'll surely never get good.

Durante

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qkNMnULfv0

>no comp thread
can I post one of my compositions here?

>>73478778
It depends. Some were better than others, and many interpreters and composers heard the playback of their rolls, and approved them. I kind of doubt they would do that unless they

>>73480551
A-anon?

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>>73480215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxiagcIaPcw

>>73480011
>>73480011

I've never met a single piano teacher in any of the conservatories I've studied in who was sure that it is impossible for an adult to become a virtuoso, yet, although you can find older virtuosos in any piano course, none of them was anything special at all. The ''fire'' was just missing, and the clapping were due to encouragement rather than awe.
What I think most people don't consider when they decide to pick up an instrument later in their life is how ''real'' the effort required for virtuosity is. People just say ''mind over matter'' and actually think they can practice 8 hours everyday without going mad in 2 weeks at most.

If one can, from scratch and with no discipline whatsoever, get to actively study 10 hours everyday, well, good luck to them, for they'll be legit virtuosos in 5-6 years top. Too bad that I've literally never met someone who managed to undertake this effort. People who have this kind of drive usually choose other, more secure venues. Most adults who want to become virtuosos are just wannabe with no poetic insight, who just want to do pirotecnic shit on piano to prove their worth. If there is ANY sign of weakness in your personality and routine, then you simply can't become great at playing piano. If such signs are present, fix your life first and then and only then start thinking about piano.

If you're interested, meditation is a great tool to develop discipline. I know it's anecdotal evidenec, but I'd say that a good 60% of the musicians I've met in conservatory practiced consistently, and were able to improve their craft and memory by triggering costantly states of relaxation. Also it will probably give you the control necessary to fix all of the shits going in your life (I guess they're there, since apparently you're a 25 years old talentless NEET).

t. piano performer/teacher

Can you guys help me figure out the tempo and tempo changes of this? Like the bpm and tempo indications?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmoLFKVENAI

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Here's a piece I wrote, I'm having it performed by my local university on Friday. Tell me what you think?
https://clyp.it/4ddxfkaatoken=9c3f7f2a1804ea65a09352ae8382b6c5

>>73481302
bad link
https://clyp.it/4ddxfkaa?token=9c3f7f2a1804ea65a09352ae8382b6c5

>>73481069
In order
3/4
6/8 (same 8th note pulse)
alternating 6/8 & 5/8 & slight 7/8 with 9/8 punctuations

thats it for now imma take a shower good luck with the rest

8th note pulse is your friend here

>>73481302
Are you a comp undergrad?

>>73481903
No, going to be a jazz performance freshman this year.

>>73471184
top kek

I'm turning into an historical recordings otaku.

>>73481302
Why do you and other people pretend that /classical/ is /comp/?

Terrible song btw

>>73481950
It's not terrible but it's not terribly clever, just being honest with you.

Work on trying more interesting colors out.

>>73481050
Well-adjusted old people may love music but their motivation is limited by a few factors. They don't really desire fame or a career, nor are strongly encouraged by others to pursue these things, and their understanding of happiness and, hence, their priorities are more or less sorted out, making unhealthy obsessions unlikely.

I do think being unhealthily obsessed with the piano is to be expected from young people who aspire to be professionals. You have to be a little fucked up to study piano for 10 hours every day and it'll probably warp you further in subtle and perhaps not so subtle ways.

Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhQcoh7xRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuWtYkoLS0Y

>>73481302
Polite version: a bit bland
Rude yet honest version: it's terrible.

All these recurring discussions on whether or not you can learn to play the piano or if you can become a virtuoso if you start late and blah blah blah in this thread... We've had this discussion probably 50 times.

It's really this simple: If you want to play the piano, play the piano. It REALLY is that simple.

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>>73477603
stop this meme

>>73482316
intresting

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This is how I fucked up the relationship of me and my piano teacher

>be me
>be 23
>be from rural North China
>decide to become a virtuoso pianist
>only two teachers in my town, one is very bad, the other one is a somewhat famous old lady virtuoso (she can play the Hammerklavier with almost no mistakes at tempo!)
>tfw she is mean as fuck
>tfw she hits me hard on the shoulder with a stick when I make mistakes

>costantly calls me ''weak'' and ''motherfucker''

>she asks me about a specific reform of our region
>I say I'm strongly opposed to it
>she asks me if I do not respect the party
>I hesitate
>''do this exercise for tomorrow, for one hour''
>come home, it's an exercise of fast octaves with leaps in thirds, all in fortissimo
>do them
>go to sleep
>wake up
>wrists are sore
>go to piano lessons
>tell to the piano teacher that the exercises that she gave me as a punishment hurt my hands
>she says ''next time you'll learn''

>fast forward to 2 months ago
>I miss 3 lessons in a row due to bad organization
>she tells me that if I'll do it another time she won't give me lessons anymore
>day of the new lessons, the clock does not ring and I do not wake up in time
>she does not contact me for 2 weeks
>after 2 weeks she tells me to come back
>asks me why I did not call back
>I tell her I was ashamed
>asks me to do the exercises she gave me the last time
>I tell her I didn't practice for 2 weeks, at this point I start crying
>she tells me to play them anyway
>I start playing again, I make lots of mistakes and she hits me lots of time
>at a certain point I break up, crying very loud
>she says ''you're disgusting'' and tells me to leave
>4 months have passed, I have not heard from her ever since

>>73483785
lol
i hope this is fiction, but thanks for the laugh anyway

What are /classical/'s favourite operas?

>>73476511
>in that sense even the videogame industry is enough to justify your claim
Video game composers don't usually get commissions to write concert hall pieces. They sign a contract to score a game - its a different medium.
Video game composers do not regularly premiere new works in the concert hall, which is an important part of the definition I provided.

Piano music recs? I've just been stumbling through it randomly, trying to listen to at least a little of several composers. What's essential, what are your favorites? This is the one I've enjoyed the most, along with some Liszt. I also like Finissy's English Country Tunes to be honest, so recommend anything.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiDtLscGnn8

>>73485050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvFsotmxbU

>>73485050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is7prjtv4Ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y93IDPQqwPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1WSJWpVvig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1eIVEy5zrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnrWG_i7peY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cVdCABgCOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irIA42YTnX0

>>73483785

>>73483856

Ya I kinda feel bad for laughing while reading it with inner monologue of engrish

Not because of that but because the story is sad and true(in different detail), if not for anon then for many others.

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>>73483785
Holy fuck your life's a literal movie.

>>73483785
t. Pinocchio

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I HAVE TOO MUCH MUSIC WTF DO I DOOOOOOO!?!?!?!?!?!

>>73485564

>>73485564

>>73485564

>>73485469
they won't fill your hole, for that you need a dick