/prod/ - Two Mono Midi edition

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first for fire
https://clyp.it/uvhhlubs

What's the origin of mono midi? Was it in reference to CV/Gate?

i am a nigger

and this is a shitpost

Hey

what's the best drum machine/vst for programming blast beats and shit like that and make it sound decent without too much effort

Best music theory Youtube channel for composition/songwriting?

>>73335377
Pretty nice, especially that key change thing every second bar. Only problem is I think I can hear clipping. How loud is the track? How are you limiting it?

>>73333924
I have FL Studio 12 with the native FL Studio ASIO. And I have a problem: the volume suddenly becomes low when, for example, a kick drum plays. I want the volume to be the same. Also why is it so low in general. Here is the clip: https://clyp.it/hyfxujvy
>ASIO4ALL
>4ALL
>for all
>only locks audio to one program
>>73336717
Just watch SeamlessR's video on music theory. Or read the goddamn thread, fagola.

>>73335451
just a way too forced meme

>>73336991
Sounds like there's a limiter on the master track.

>>73337081
Nah. Without the limiter is still the same situation. It has something to do with the ASIO itself.

>>73337134
asio does not at all affect the rendered file, it's just for communication with your soundcard
so it obviously has to be earlier in the chain

>>73337166
Thanks for the help. My sound card is Realtek HD Audio.

>>73337190
makes no difference
it's somewhere in FL

>>73336991
I don't hear anything.

>>73336991

ASIO will nearly always be different, level-wise, from the default Windows mixer since ASIO bypasses the Windows audio subsystems and communicates directly with your audio interface - a lot of times this will work out to be a quieter output as you've noticed but it's nothing to fret about - it just indicates that the Windows mixer (and maybe even the mixer/control panel for your audio driver) is boosting the signal on the way out.

As mentioned above by >>73337081, there's a likelihood that there's limiting happening somewhere if the overall level drops when something energetic plays - if the rendered mix has this same thing going on then there is a limiter in the chain but if looking at the waveform of the rendered mix doesn't show any limiting I'd be inclined to suspect that the playback system (speakers, headphone amp?) is limiting the audio level in the analogue domain rather than the limiting taking place in the box.

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>>73333924
Anyone tried this? is this course worth it?

>>73337513
>$127

WEW LAD

Just sign up for sonic academy, its like $12 a month, watch all the videos you can, then just cancel your subscription on the last day of the month. Just follow along with a few turorials and you'll understand enough

there is NO reason to pay that much money for less content

>>73338008
ok

There's no need to ever pay money for anything on the internet

how do i use max martin melodic math

Just wondering if anyone would be interested in reasonably priced animated lyric videos?

Somebody update the pastebin

here's the new ebook bundle link
https://mega.nz/#!tU1CnSoA!3PH2i4T-AIUDKCJoQynQdifCeRH7XbR7oCyWm_xoDPI

What kind of hardware would you guys recommend for creating sample based ambient music? I've been looking at the SP404 because I know the 303 is why Person Pitch is a thing, but I was wondering if something else might be more suited for what I'd like to do.

>>73339426
a computer

>>73339491
Dragging and dropping files in ableton hurts my creativity and makes me think of music as a carefully calculated process, thus the desire for an external sampler that would let me actually play things live and sketch out ideas without the overhead of opening ableton and plugging my midi controller into my laptop only to have to drag and drop specific sounds to even start making noise

>>73339605
get a midi pad youf ucking imbecile

>>73339605
>an external sampler that would let me actually play things live and sketch out ideas without the ... have to drag and drop specific sounds to even start making noise
confirmed for absolutely clueless

>>73339605
Get an Ableton Push

>>73339625
>>73339649
>>73339664

Naw, Im basically looking for a hardware alternative to the shit you can already do with abelton and a midi pad, but I guess there isn't one?

>>73339932
you can go tried and true and get a Roland sp-xox or a secondhand MPC but don't think you're not going to have to do a lot of tooling before you get it making music. ableton was designed to do what those do, but faster and easier.

alternatively you can get something like maschine and buy an ambient sample pack-- that'll get you going faster

or get the sp-xox and a bunch of effects pedals

or you can go trve kvlt and get a mixer and bunch of walkmen and make ambient tape-loops

https://clyp.it/jwaucjqc

Is the intro too long? Should I just get right into the drop?

beat for a friend, I know it's poopy but please blast me in a constructive way, need ideas desperately

https://clyp.it/veetw5yf

>>73340313
>https://clyp.it/veetw5yf
all i hear is hi hats

>>73339932
Hardware looks cool but it's really a pain in the ass. Only hardware I can think of that is worth it in the modern age is a Maschine, and even that needs you to install software on your PC (I think) but you can do everything from the one controller.

MPCs take a long time because of the tiny memory and small screen, but they have new ones such as the MPC reneissance which are supposed to be easier to use. All of them are really expensive though and so is the maschine

>>73340350
current-gen mpc's are pretty much all pc-slaved maschine-clones.

older, hardware mpc can be used without a pc and are pretty well-priced on the secondhand market but youre right: there's no avoiding actually having to do a lot of menial grunt labor in gettiung the sounds you want to come out

I play guitar along backing tracks I make myself. I have no idea how to mix and master it. Basically I just add the MIDI tracks and assign the VST instruments to them (only bass and drums). It kind of sounds bad later when I play my guitar alongside it.

Would anyone be kind to help me get a slightly more acceptable sound? I could upload the MIDI files or the bass and drum track audio.

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why did this happen

some project bugged and wont show input devices for recording anymore. on any track, restarting pc doesnt fix it
on a new, blank project it works right away

how ta fix it

>>73333924
How do I find drums to match my track?

>>73341123
What sort of answer are you expecting here? We don't know what your track is, or what sort of drums you want.

https://clyp.it/ak0pf4cp

>>73341123
You either have a big enough sample library that you know very well, and you go and find them there, or you make them yourself either from scratch or with other more "basic" samples.

>>73340313
I actually really like this. But the hihats almost fucking hurt.

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How do I avoid making my music sound generic, /prod/?

Or is that not even something I should be thinking about at this point?

>>73342821
Focus on doing weird shit disregarding genres.
Have fun and try to make new sounds and compositions that nobody has ever made before.
Maybe you won't reach that goal, but your music will surely become more unique and original.
You can always one down the weirdness afterwards by changing things to be a bit more normal, but it's better to have weird (but good sounding) stuff that you have to normalize than to have boring stuff that you have to make interesting and original.

>>73341982
Pretty cool. I think it needs some reverb on the growl.

Does anybody else feel immediately discouraged even before touching your DAW? I know I have to keep at it, but it sucks to know that I suck. And I'm just afraid to even try because I know it'll just be a bunch of garbage.

I know I sound like a faggot. I just wanna know if anyone else feels the same way.

>>73343206
I used to but then I got good. Don't worry, you'll get there if you work hard ;)

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Every. Single, Fucking. Time. I come to try and finisgh this fucking song Reaper does some bullshit. First host_32 would crash because I was running 32x pluggins in reaper 64x, so I installed 32x reaper and everything was smooth until I got a lot of work done on the song, press play a fifth time and the program fucking crashes. So I unplug my ux2 and diable/enable the device because that use to work, but nope. So reaper constantly has errors loading the asio driver and crashes when I try and close the program anyway. Why the fuck does reaper have to crash every single fucking time?!

>>73343378
I hope I get good. I'll probably be 30 by the time it happens. If it does.

How long did it take you?

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Hey guys i've been working on a remix of 21 Savage No Heart. I went for this really spooky vibe but i think the beat is a bit too repetive, i think there could be some more extra elements added to it but i don't really know what. Any other critique is also appreciated.

https://clyp.it/wchz3qzh?token=f2cf3390a4fcadd9ee4a317f2ca4b04e

>>73343508
3rd party plugs will fuck you buddy

>>73342821
follow ur dremz and stop copying other people :p

>>73341123
>find

you have to make/work on them dipshit

>>73343532
Nah, it took me 2 years give or take man.

>>73340252
>https://clyp.it/jwaucjqc
holy shit, this is nuts! Soundclound/youtube anon?

>>73344030
post one of your tracks anon

>>73339932
Elektron Octatrack or Digitakt

>>73344183
I remember you cut that out

>>73344198
https://clyp.it/lxjxddgj

This is the latest one I've done.

>>73344465
nice, good song. you could probably shorten it up like 2 mins though, it is a little long

>>73344547
hmm maybe, I could make a different "radio edit" skipping the club intro + outro

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https://clyp.it/x5mhrcgy
tips on how I can make this better?
Pretty sure I need some variation on the drum velocity but I'm stumped on where I should go from this.

>>73344465
Hey, this is pretty good. The growls aren't really my taste, but I love the drums. Any tips on making drums sound good?

There's a new FREE app right now that allows you to make music on your phone

It's basic, just drums, bass and synth, but you can fiddle with filters and and stuff to make it sound okay

Called Groovebox

Just made this in 1 minute
https://clyp.it/5f3ualpi

Kinda fun I guess

>>73345096
it needs a bumping 808 groove fAm

>>73346632
Lol can't tell if youre being sarcastic.

https://clyp.it/ztpts4aa

I found my metal brushes
And also recorded my Yamaha CVP-3

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>>73346660
i most certainly am, you need to add variation for everything cause its probably looks like pic related atm

>>73346727
lol gotcha thanks for a real answer. Are the sounds okay though?

>>73346832
honestly dude the sounds sound very amateurish

>>73346862
Yeah, figured. Shit this making music thing is goddamn difficult.

>>73346875
it takes time, try and build up a repertoire of sounds and vsts and eventually the quality will improve

>>73347230
SOUNDS GREAT!

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Could anyone give me some feedback on this mix? I'm pretty new to production so any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Recorded for this girl I like, and will definitely never show her.

It consists of some stuff from my volca keys, small modular system, guitar, shortwave radio samples and tape loops

https://clyp.it/0prowcos

>>73347331
idk theres not much to comment on, its just the same thing for 4 minutes

>>73347392
yeah it's a loop
a lot of stuff I like is like that

Taylor Deupree, Gas, Kyle Bobby Dunn, Brian Eno, etc...

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>>73347331
Also tapes, really??

>>73347573
I guess its just a bit bland for my taste but sound and level wise sounds fine to me.

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>>73347577
>doesn't own a reel to reel

>>73347641
why you would want an antiquated piece of garbage which requires physical alterations to the tape in order to rid of that awful hiss, baffles me

How do I make my creative process faster? I feel like I take too long and then I stop giving a shit about the project.

>>73348310
What is your creative process now?

>>73348310
I usually just dick around on the instruments until I get a clear idea of the melody and rhythm I wanna create and then switch to the daw, so producing is basically just putting everything in it's right place and then adding some effects and shit.

>>73347641
dayum nice reel anon, I hope to afford a nice 10 inch one day.

>>73347668
a lot of people like the lo fi sound quality and imperfections analog tape offers. Also if your tape machine is serviced / biased correctly you can make very high quality recordings.
It's also fun to use the r2r as an instrument itself, and making physical loops is a fun hands on process, as well as using two units to get a frippertronics setup going is a lot of fun. Y u gotta be mean about it? ;_;

>>73347594
I can definitely understand that, but thanks for listening and giving feedback

>>73347668
also eq'ing out tape his is super easy

>>73339605
Panda Bear did not make person pitch on an SP. he made it in a DAW and said he made it on a roland to sound more talented

If you are going to just mess around on the SP-404 you should know you can't even fine tune the pitch of samples on a 404 to pair two samples together so at best you can chop a sample with a musical hook, add drums to it, a few sound fx and maybe if you're lucky another sample you put on the SD card matches up

Otherwise you will have to do it calculated - start with one sample on a pad, chop it across the bank, and listen to vinyl's/CDs through the phono in waiting for the next sample that matches up

Something like kontakt is much better for happy accidents because you can tune it and it's fast

>>73348465
this

the 404 is, as much as i usually groan about people who use this phrase, kind of a meme. it's decent for doing live effects stuff because it's easy to switch between them on the fly, but actually sampling with them is a pain in the ass for numerous reasons.

if i remember correctly there was a bunch of limitations beyond what you mentioned, like only being able to resample real-time playing instead of patterns and not being able to resample more than 4 sounds at once, instead of the resample just being a bounce of whatever you played like a normal sampler

how to record zynaddsubfx synths into ardour as separate tracks?

>>73345542
Thanks! It really comes down to sample selection with drums, no point eqing a shit kick, it's never gonna sound good.

>>73348310
a few things that have helped me

>templates
>save presets of patches
>effects racks ready
>kits
>WOWMAKEPRESETS

probably would help to have a keyboard and know all your shortcuts???

also get disciplined wtf

>>73347577
meme tier gear so you can feel more legit and different buddy

>>73347331
gotta agree with the other anon, sounds fine, imo the only real standard for drone like this is to make sure the sounds don't bleed together too much and nothing sticks out poorly

>>73339605
>hurts my creativity
>prefaces something that hurts to read 90% of the time

maybe try an mpc????

If you really feel that way about the "calculated process" you either don't know how to work fast enough or you're better off playing guitar or something dood

>>73349123
>ardour
>literallywhat

>into???

is there not an option to arm multiple tracks in it..? ctrl+clickaroo?

i'm looking at a reamp box to use some of my pedals as outboard gear

is there any alternatives to this? the cheapest one is like 99 bucks but I spent all my money on pedals

>>73349271
>alternatives

don't use one...? just do the same thing with no box in the chain lol

imo not really worth it unless you've got crazy expensive pedals

>>73349315
well when I use it as an insert it sounds like shit cuz its not line level. I need to convert it to that but the only suggestion i've received is a reamp box

>>73349271
Find a used one on eBay

The only other option is just turning the level down real low when you're outputting the audio but then you raise the noise floor.

>>73349271
>I spent all my money on pedals

lekk

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>>73336991
You have some stupid ass shit auto volume limiting on your sound device in windows.

My OS is in another language so I dont know what the translation for everything here is.
right click speaker icon > playback devices > preferences/settings> enhancements > deactivate all enchancements

se pic for direction, pardon not being in english.

>>73349485
yeah I guess used is the best option, thanks

>>73349524
no thanks to you

>>73349203
what you think of this boyo?

https://clyp.it/ztpts4aa

>>73349657
fuck I thought I responded to you alread lol BUT

I tend to not respond to clyps which I don't like and also can't give meaningful feedback

I don't care for any of the music outside of your drumming at all desu, though it reminds me of that ice level on donkey kong 64 for some reason

electronic and acoustic drums aren't blending
also the cymbal at the end is kind of loud and

actually the cymbals(not a ride right? idk drums thta well) don't sound right at all

fuck i wish i could drum/had a space to learn

don't like it sorry boyo. got anything else?

>>73349804
yeah i was thinking that too, the melody is shit.
https://clyp.it/ijua3ssk
try that

Thoughts?
https://clyp.it/o3u3cnpd?token=80d2bc1d16d5e834be87a0cc20d6ce03

>>73349864
I do like this melody better

make more singing songs plix /prod/ needs them

rims(?) around 1:20 are a little too distant imo

need some mic technique at that falsetto part so you don't have to automate/compress for consistent volume

much better but plz use more interesting sounds lol

>>73349883
kick too clicky snare sounds (too) lofi??? like that and some of the music came from mp3 rips or something....

i think your whirly pianoz can be more present.... 1:30 reminds me of curren$y, i think a more obvious melody there could make this a lot more interesting

alright track, could use a lot of spicing up imo

>>73349923
thanks, oh i plan to.
yeah another anon said that i need to work on my mic technique
ive been trying out recording my piano so thats why the sounds are so bland

>>73349952
How could I spice up the track to make it sound better?

>>73349883
To slow, to meandering, the beat sounds off (I know it's supposed to be one of those lazy slightly off tempo beats, but you havent mastered that art)

Just to much stuff that has no connection, samples that arent in the same key, samples that isnt in the same time signature.

Frankly, it sounds like I'm listening to two or three songs at the same time.

If it's any worth I like the sound design, but theres very little musicality here.

>>73350066
as far as I can tell the drum loop is in like 43/16 time or something.

best headphones for no monitors? or suck it up and get monitors?

>>73347668
>hiss bad
>not using tape decks to make musique concrete

>>73351567
Suck it up fucker

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Anyone know how to create a carnival type sound? It's hard to explain.
Sorta like these:

https://youtu.be/DbT5T35aUUE?t=42

https://youtu.be/U9haPthELro?t=91

https://youtu.be/bHi5jDEqPB0?t=11

I imagine there's some saw wave FLO modulation going on? I'm might be wrong in that notion since i'm still new to synths. Also i use Fruity Loop's GMS.

>>73351987
what do i get then? everyone has rokits but they seem so overrated... do i need an interface too?

How do you make music when you don't even know what's good anymore?

>>73352405
I know it's easier said than done, but try to write something you'd want to listen to in the present moment (instead of worrying about if it's "good" or not). If it's something you would listen to, chances are somebody else out there will like it, too.

>>73333924
https://clyp.it/h2u3yp4e
Ey what yall think of this new thing

>>73352063
A good base would be an organ-type preset.

https://clyp.it/pwasttcf?token=afd5bce41f05766c5560e791cdd14d9a
Please help, all of my mixes sound really dry and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Is it a lack of a bassline?

>>73352753
>https://clyp.it/pwasttcf?token=afd5bce41f05766c5560e791cdd14d9a

It's everything, the lack of low frequencies, the lack of reverb, the poor sound design and the bland texture of the instruments. A mix will not fix these issues

>>73333924
pls help /pol/, my friends listen and critique my music everyday but they said this was shit when i thought it was good
https://clyp.it/xuka5pcm
i need a second opinion, for the most part they said the tempo was off

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https://clyp.it/wtx203ua
some basic ass trap shit im working on rn.

any feedback welcome also thought on how to transition into the vocals.

>>73352086
Jesus google

Also for future reference be extremely wary of advice in /prod/, the vast majority are complete noobs and half of everybody knowledgeable is an asshole who will shit on your music

Used pair of Yamaha hs anythings or m jbl lsrs(?) if you can't afford better, monitors aren't something you should cheap out on

Yes. you need an interface to get sound in and out (conversion) so you can use you're monitors

If you plan to record anything don't get a 2i2, ur22 or whatever that cheapo Roland is are in the same ballpark with less issues, however if you're not ever planning to record just get any of those used and you'll be fine.

>>73352086
Also rokits are not overrated they are literally garunteed to make nobody take you seriously lol

>>73352838
>>73352818
>>73352753
>>73352492
all ask for feedback without giving any, nice

>>73352894
its /prod/ why would you expect anything more lol

Somebody pointed out to me that the people who need feedback the most aren't really people who you want giving it, so eh