How can you justify listening to music made by a man who beat

ˢᵒᵐᵉᵇᵒᵈʸ ᵒᶰᶜᵉ ᵗᵒᶫᵈ ᵐᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ʷᵒʳᶫᵈ ᶦˢ ᵍᵒᶰᶰᵃ ʳᵒᶫᶫ ᵐᵉ
ᴵ ᵃᶦᶰ'ᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ˢʰᵃʳᵖᵉˢᵗ ᵗᵒᵒᶫ ᶦᶰ ᵗʰᵉ ˢʰᵉᵈ
ˢʰᵉ ʷᵃˢ ᶫᵒᵒᵏᶦᶰᵍ ᵏᶦᶰᵈ ᵒᶠ ᵈᵘᵐᵇ ʷᶦᵗʰ ʰᵉʳ ᶠᶦᶰᵍᵉʳ ᵃᶰᵈ ʰᵉʳ ᵗʰᵘᵐᵇ
ᴵᶰ ᵗʰᵉ ˢʰᵃᵖᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵃᶰ "ᴸ" ᵒᶰ ʰᵉʳ ᶠᵒʳᵉʰᵉᵃᵈ

ᵂᵉᶫᶫ ᵗʰᵉ ʸᵉᵃʳˢ ˢᵗᵃʳᵗ ᶜᵒᵐᶦᶰᵍ ᵃᶰᵈ ᵗʰᵉʸ ᵈᵒᶰ'ᵗ ˢᵗᵒᵖ ᶜᵒᵐᶦᶰᵍ
ᶠᵉᵈ ᵗᵒ ᵗʰᵉ ʳᵘᶫᵉˢ ᵃᶰᵈ ᴵ ʰᶦᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ᵍʳᵒᵘᶰᵈ ʳᵘᶰᶰᶦᶰᵍ
ᴰᶦᵈᶰ'ᵗ ᵐᵃᵏᵉ ˢᵉᶰˢᵉ ᶰᵒᵗ ᵗᵒ ᶫᶦᵛᵉ ᶠᵒʳ ᶠᵘᶰ
ʸᵒᵘʳ ᵇʳᵃᶦᶰ ᵍᵉᵗˢ ˢᵐᵃʳᵗ ᵇᵘᵗ ʸᵒᵘʳ ʰᵉᵃᵈ ᵍᵉᵗˢ ᵈᵘᵐᵇ
ˢᵒ ᵐᵘᶜʰ ᵗᵒ ᵈᵒ, ˢᵒ ᵐᵘᶜʰ ᵗᵒ ˢᵉᵉ
ˢᵒ ʷʰᵃᵗ'ˢ ʷʳᵒᶰᵍ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵗᵃᵏᶦᶰᵍ ᵗʰᵉ ᵇᵃᶜᵏ ˢᵗʳᵉᵉᵗˢ?
ʸᵒᵘ'ᶫᶫ ᶰᵉᵛᵉʳ ᵏᶰᵒʷ ᶦᶠ ʸᵒᵘ ᵈᵒᶰ'ᵗ ᵍᵒ
ʸᵒᵘ'ᶫᶫ ᶰᵉᵛᵉʳ ˢʰᶦᶰᵉ ᶦᶠ ʸᵒᵘ ᵈᵒᶰ'ᵗ ᵍᶫᵒʷ

ᴴᵉʸ ᶰᵒʷ, ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ᵃᶰ ᵃᶫᶫ-ˢᵗᵃʳ, ᵍᵉᵗ ʸᵒᵘʳ ᵍᵃᵐᵉ ᵒᶰ, ᵍᵒ ᵖᶫᵃʸ
ᴴᵉʸ ᶰᵒʷ, ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ᵃ ʳᵒᶜᵏ ˢᵗᵃʳ, ᵍᵉᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ˢʰᵒʷ ᵒᶰ, ᵍᵉᵗ ᵖᵃᶦᵈ
ᴬᶰᵈ ᵃᶫᶫ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᵍᶫᶦᵗᵗᵉʳˢ ᶦˢ ᵍᵒᶫᵈ
ᴼᶰᶫʸ ˢʰᵒᵒᵗᶦᶰᵍ ˢᵗᵃʳˢ ᵇʳᵉᵃᵏ ᵗʰᵉ ᵐᵒᶫᵈ

Welp, there goes all my 20th century music then.

ᴵᵗ'ˢ ᵃ ᶜᵒᵒᶫ ᵖᶫᵃᶜᵉ ᵃᶰᵈ ᵗʰᵉʸ ˢᵃʸ ᶦᵗ ᵍᵉᵗˢ ᶜᵒᶫᵈᵉʳ
ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ᵇᵘᶰᵈᶫᵉᵈ ᵘᵖ ᶰᵒʷ, ʷᵃᶦᵗ ᵗᶦᶫᶫ ʸᵒᵘ ᵍᵉᵗ ᵒᶫᵈᵉʳ
ᴮᵘᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ᵐᵉᵗᵉᵒʳ ᵐᵉᶰ ᵇᵉᵍ ᵗᵒ ᵈᶦᶠᶠᵉʳ
ᴶᵘᵈᵍᶦᶰᵍ ᵇʸ ᵗʰᵉ ʰᵒᶫᵉ ᶦᶰ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵃᵗᵉᶫᶫᶦᵗᵉ ᵖᶦᶜᵗᵘʳᵉ
ᵀʰᵉ ᶦᶜᵉ ʷᵉ ˢᵏᵃᵗᵉ ᶦˢ ᵍᵉᵗᵗᶦᶰᵍ ᵖʳᵉᵗᵗʸ ᵗʰᶦᶰ
ᵀʰᵉ ʷᵃᵗᵉʳ'ˢ ᵍᵉᵗᵗᶦᶰᵍ ʷᵃʳᵐ ˢᵒ ʸᵒᵘ ᵐᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵃˢ ʷᵉᶫᶫ ˢʷᶦᵐ
ᴹʸ ʷᵒʳᶫᵈ'ˢ ᵒᶰ ᶠᶦʳᵉ, ʰᵒʷ ᵃᵇᵒᵘᵗ ʸᵒᵘʳˢ?
ᵀʰᵃᵗ'ˢ ᵗʰᵉ ʷᵃʸ ᴵ ᶫᶦᵏᵉ ᶦᵗ ᵃᶰᵈ ᴵ ᶰᵉᵛᵉʳ ᵍᵉᵗ ᵇᵒʳᵉᵈ

ᴴᵉʸ ᶰᵒʷ, ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ᵃᶰ ᵃᶫᶫ-ˢᵗᵃʳ, ᵍᵉᵗ ʸᵒᵘʳ ᵍᵃᵐᵉ ᵒᶰ, ᵍᵒ ᵖᶫᵃʸ
ᴴᵉʸ ᶰᵒʷ, ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ᵃ ʳᵒᶜᵏ ˢᵗᵃʳ, ᵍᵉᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ˢʰᵒʷ ᵒᶰ, ᵍᵉᵗ ᵖᵃᶦᵈ
ᴬᶫᶫ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᵍᶫᶦᵗᵗᵉʳˢ ᶦˢ ᵍᵒᶫᵈ
ᴼᶰᶫʸ ˢʰᵒᵒᵗᶦᶰᵍ ˢᵗᵃʳˢ ᵇʳᵉᵃᵏ ᵗʰᵉ ᵐᵒᶫᵈ

ᴴᵉʸ ᶰᵒʷ, ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ᵃᶰ ᵃᶫᶫ-ˢᵗᵃʳ, ᵍᵉᵗ ʸᵒᵘʳ ᵍᵃᵐᵉ ᵒᶰ, ᵍᵒ ᵖᶫᵃʸ
ᴴᵉʸ ᶰᵒʷ, ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ᵃ ʳᵒᶜᵏ ˢᵗᵃʳ, ᵍᵉᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ˢʰᵒʷ, ᵒᶰ ᵍᵉᵗ ᵖᵃᶦᵈ
ᴬᶰᵈ ᵃᶫᶫ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᵍᶫᶦᵗᵗᵉʳˢ ᶦˢ ᵍᵒᶫᵈ
ᴼᶰᶫʸ ˢʰᵒᵒᵗᶦᶰᵍ ˢᵗᵃʳˢ

Probably because I don't give a shit about an artists personal life when I listen to their music.

it sounds good

if you never listened to people who beat women

there would be no hip hop.

okay

*I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept apart from the things that she loved
Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene
And I'm doing the best that I can*

>So he admit it can we move on please?

I justify it because he was part irish

>>73316424
i dont and i dont listen to him

>>73316785
No matter how many times you post this it doesn't excuse the fact that he beat his wife

>>73316908
john lennon beat his wife

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>>73316785
did you guys know John Lennon beat his dick?

>>73316785
i fell like complaining that "people bring this up too much" is just an excuse for abuse apologism and propogation of the patriarchy...

You just take into consideration who his wife was and it's easily forgivable.

>>73316927
If you were Yoko Ono's husband would you not beat her?

>>73316996
It's totally cis/hetero-normative behavior that is filled with toxic masculinity and promotes a patriarchal white-supremacist capitalist monarchy

>>73317053
ignoring that one of the most celebrated pop culture figures of western culture was abusive or acting like its something we should ignore does exactly that tho....

>>73317095
and dont get me wrong im not saying you shouldnt listen to his music or admire other things he did but ignoring that or criticizing people who try to talk about that normalizes that behavior and helps to shoe under the rug serious issues.

for example one of my favorite musicain charles cohen i deeply admire but he attempted to meet up with a teen boy romantic/ sexual interest and hes in his 60s... do i value his contributions as a queer poc in experimental electronic music and breaking barriers in the cishet white male centric circle of western art music? yes.
do i admire him for being one of the ealiest art musicians to generate safe spaces for queer poc? yes, greatly.
do i think its important to ackowledge he tried to stautorally rape a kid? yes

>>73316908
No matter how many times he posts that, doesn't excuse the fact that this thread is shit and old and not productive

>>73316996
>>73317053
>>>tumblr

>>73317182
Yeah we know that John beat his wife and we know he was a hypocrite who was frequently angry and frustrated with an ego the size of a small nation, but that doesn't excuse the fact that all these threads have been repeating the same thing over and over again

The absolute madman

>>73317367
So you are ok with listening to music made by an abusive wife beater?

>>73317858
why do you care if he beats his wife
youre not his wife
let his wife worry about it

>>73316996
people complaining that it's "brought up too much" is reasonable in the case of /mu/ since people on here use it to make repetitive threads and think that you shouldn't listen to his music for it.

>>73317858
Why aren't you? His music didn't beat his wife.

>>73316973
>those weird titties
what was he thinking

>>73316973
I won't post the reverse because I don't want to get banned, BUT...

...John literally has a bigger ass than she does. smdh.

>>73316541
implying there's anything wrong with this

>>73316996
Being categorically unapologetic is worse than being unduly apologetic.

He literally only hit his first wife once and he later admitted it and said he felt bad about it.

So how did this meme start that he was abusing her 24/7?

Reminder that Paul, George and specially Ringo also beated their wives

George beated both his and Ringo's wife, while he was having an affair with her

>>73318089
This

>>73317858
>Can't separate between an artists work and the artist

Yoko OHHH NO!

YOKO NO!

She belongs in the kitchen like all woman and I have an urge to beat them when I'm actually defending myself from their treats.

>>73321229
I like to think they all beat John's wife

onion.

>>73316954
man always gets a little rush out of posting an article about man always gets a little rush out of posting an article about man always gets a little rush out of telling people john lennon beat wife

>>73322475
have layers

>>73322526
We need to go deeper

>>73316424
How can you justify listening to music?

>>73316424
Dude we constantly listen to music made by people with questionable personal life choices.
Vikernes burned churches with his "gang" and killed a man.
Most rappers you listen to have probably been jailed or arrested for drug abuse and robbery at least 10 times in their lifetime, some probably were gang members

>>73323809
>Most rappers you listen to have probably been jailed or arrested for drug abuse and robbery at least 10 times in their lifetime

Where are you getting this statistic?

>>73316424
i don't care

>>73316424
We don't know his wife. Maybe she deserved it.

>>73322390
I like to think, after each session, John would drive them into his home for them all to get a smack at his wife

>>73316424
I do not mind, because I also, beat my wife

These "John Lennon beat his wife" threads are the cancer that's killing /mu/

>>73317036
This. She was a major cunt

>>73316522
this

I'd slap around Yoko a few times given the opportunity

>>73321229
Source?

Never got why wife beating is held in such a higher regard than any other violence. Marriage is basically meaningless these days anyways, what is so special about someone punching someone else?

>>73316424
>How can you justify listening to music made by a man who beat his wife?
Because he changed his scene and was doing the best that he could.

>>73323809
>jailed or arrested for drug abuse and robbery at least 10 times in their lifetime
If you've been convicted that many times, they don't let you out again.

>>73316424
Death of the Author and all that.

Though, Lenon made standard pop, so I don't really have a drive to listen to his music anyway.

>>73326867
>Death of the Author and all that.
Please stop this meme

>>73316424
Because he made up for it later in his life.

>>73326742
The assumption is usually that the wife is powerless in the situation and that it happens for no good reason. "Wifebeater" makes people think of a shitty dude who beats his wife because he has unresolved issues. It doesn't invoke someone who gets into fistfights or whatever. Like if you got in a barfight, people would think you were (maybe stupidly, but whatever) defending your honor or something.

>>73316424
By just saying that you like>>73316424
his music

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>>73316424
kill yourself

People should assume that all artists are terrible people and get over it.

>>73317182
YOU
ARE
GAY

Is this true O:

>>73330341
Not really