I wanna get into classical music, where do I start?

>>73299282

The 100 CD box set of Beethoven's Complete Works.

>>73299289
Isn't Mozart the best?

>>73299282
Just listen to everything. There is no best of the best, since it is subjective to every individual.

dont

>>73299322
/board

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Whenever someone posts these threads I become overwhelmed because so much music is recommended and I don't know how to tell if a composition/song is good or bad

or if I even have to make that distinction at all because all of the bad composers are forgotten?

and it spans over so many years, it is just intimidating to start

>>73299295
Mozart is a meme.

>>73299346
>I don't know how to tell if a composition/song is good or bad
???

>>73299389
What I was trying to say was that with modern genres it is far easier to tell if a song is shit, but with classical I have no idea what to look for in a bad song

>>73299346
At this point it's all good. The bad stuff has mostly fallen to the wayside after a century or two, so what's left is all good stuff, just good in different ways to different people. If you're overwhelmed, for now stick to one time period, or one genre (i.e symphonic works, chamber works, solo sonatas, opera), one performer/ensemble/orchestra, or one composer. Or stop worrying about it, figure out something you like especially, and look for similar things (iterate until you've covered everything).

>>73299282
Listen to the popular ones, then the not so popular, then the ones that aren't even popular.
Just listen to it.

>>73299282
I found Wagner a good entry point. Very accessible.

>>73299282
the Greeks

>>73299636
I understand your meme but is there such a thing as greek compositions/music remembered today?

>>73299668
He means "start with the monks"

Plainchant, then renaissance vocal music.

This documentary shows the evolution of polyphony from plainchant, can be a good starting point for getting into the era:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgK5AWtJDfU

>>73299282
SS and GOMAD

>>73299668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RjBePQV4xE
there's only a few - this is the earliest notated piece iirc

>>73299282
You can't spell classical without Ass.

>>73300467
mozart pls go

>>73299370
just like the greeks

>>73299282 (OP)
beethoven, bach, schubert

>>73299282
beethoven, bach, schubert

>>73299370
just like the greeks

>>73299282
Buy a fedora

>>73299282
film scores. they're the closest of what we could call classical orchestrated music of nowadays.

>>73301296
>he thinks orchestral music is a dead genre
I hope I'm reading your post wrong anon

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>>73299282
1. Go to Wikipedia
2. Go the the "Classical music" article
3. Click on the eras or composers etc. links
4. Read those articles
5. Listen to the works mentioned in the prose

voila

I'll start you off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZSB0WTyIrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GrnwzEhi_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juMDUtIWnto

don't want to do all that "work"? listen to albums/compilations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaxHxTD6__g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-vCsWMW6bA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASyp6BxyLz4

>>73301383
oh no, by no means i believe it's a dead genre.it's just that, as most film scores are essentially orchestrated music, it'd be a way for op to acquire taste with material that he might have heard before even if he was unaware of it.

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>>73301296
contemporary classical exits.

>>73302051

yeah but you posted a modern chart

>>73299282
Holst: The Planets

If it reminds you of ..oh i don't know..Star wars or something silly, don't bother with the genre at all

>>73299482
That's probably because 95% of the classical you have listened to is good. The shit stuff is just forgotten.

>>73299282
Beethoven symphonies 3, 5, 6, 7, 9 and piano sonatas 8, 21, 23, 29, 32
Mozart symphonies 40, 41 and piano concertos 20, 23, 24, 25
Bach Mass in B minor, Well Tempered Clavier, Art of the Fugue
Schubert symphonies 8, 9
Brahms symphony 4 and piano concerto 2
Dvorak symphonies 7, 9 and cello concerto

Just choose any one of these and start listening. Don't think about what you're 'supposed' to think about it, just listen and let it affect you however it will.

Arvo Pärt is something pretty easy to listen to at start.

>>73302808
around 8 of those guys are still alive, so it covers contemporary. "modern" doesn't really mean much. Only the Schoenberg and Ives albums would be considered "modernism"

>>73302867

I mean the modern period. just because they are still alive doesn't mean their music is contemporary, unless they are still making music. but contemporary refers to music made in the 21st century afaik

>>73300616
Best joke I've ever seen.

>>73302949
>just because they are still alive doesn't mean their music is contemporary
That's literally the definition of contemporary.
And yes all those composers who are still alive are still making music. Most composers continue to write until they die.

"contemporary" simply means being written around the current time. in 1935 a piece from 1930 is 'contemporary', in 2001 a piece from 1995 is 'contemporary'. Its a fluid term, but in classical these days generally means post-1950

>>73302051
This shit is profoundly different from premodern classical music, and premodern classical is clearly what OP wants.

>>73299282
Here are some accessible pieces - Vivaldi's Four Seasons, Beethoven's Mondscheinsonate (14th piano sonata), Orff's Carmina Burana, Dvořak's 9th symphony (From the New World), Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, Smetana's Ma vlast and Debussy (literally everyone loves Debussy).
And then just branch out. Just listen to shit. There are charts in /classical/ threads and lists on RYM, if you need further recs.
If you listen to a beloved classic multiple times but you're not enjoying it much, try a different recording. Different performers have different approaches to their job, one may be more to your taste than an another one.
At first, I recommend reading about the particular piece you're listening to, to put it in the historical context and to learn a bit of theory. However, I have to say that Aaron Copland's book "What to listen for in music" was much more effective in explaining theory than any wikipedia article.
And don't fear the concert halls. Classical music is meant to be performed live, which positively affects the acoustic qualities of music (live music has a much wider dynamic range and a more "transparent" sound than on your shitty earbuds) and also prevents you from being distracted. You can only listen to it with all of your attention instead of treating it like background noise.

I would either start with something accessible like glassworks, or something inaccessible like klavierstucke.

>>73299282
Start at medieval then barroqe then romantiq end with modern classical.
>>73299346
Use periods to navigate classical music

>>73299370
just like the greeks

>>73299282
bach, beethoven, schubert

didn't lou reed die so we wouldn't have to listen to this shit?

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>>73299282
Can we all just agree that baroque arias for the counter-tenor range are where music peaked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5HcakhyPB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7PTeoDDZNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYpGXNPT7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDtlkj7YWMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdLCcQixNvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2S_nbmFp-A

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Hey asshole! Listen to these! Especially the 2nd one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7hiNR4wxUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsa0AuTXEJQ&t=415s&list=PLQOkXpb5Ii125PAuFZStBBP5dPLOe8UeF&index=97

>inb4 baroque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuMdUG-eZtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkJZWz41OVw&list=PLQOkXpb5Ii125PAuFZStBBP5dPLOe8UeF&index=162

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gj_6If9YfI&list=PLQOkXpb5Ii125PAuFZStBBP5dPLOe8UeF&index=84

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOAJRmp4yKc&list=PLQOkXpb5Ii125PAuFZStBBP5dPLOe8UeF&index=166