/prod/ Music Production General

>>73195731
who is this yogurt ogre

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who else is stuck playing two chord progressions?

>>73196403
>chord
if i wanted to play chords i'd buy a fucking guitar

>>73196403
this was me for a while
listen to more music and study their chord progressions it will help

How do you find "your" sound?

I like a lot of different music, and my recordings reflect that, but in a very scattered way.

How can I hone a sound that I can call my own, or at least consistent?

What kind of DAW is best for making music with real instruments?

>>73197876
They're all the same.
Pick one and get good at it.

>>73197556
Time.

https://clyp.it/psplpl4z

How is this sounding?
I sampled some Tom Waits drums

>>73197980
I'm pretty familiar with fl studio and garageband, think i'm gonna switch to logic pro x since its similar to garageband and running fl studio on mac is a pain

>>73198142
Idk if im retarted but in fl, you have to record into edison, then drag the wav so its kinda slow, so logic would be better in that regard id assume

>be me
>open up daw after drinking
>try to make idm
>end up making something that sounds like linkin park demos
>tfw im a failure

>>73199698
>drinking
Theres your problem

>>73195731
Stop producing and post your oneitis's Instagram

>>73199725
I don't disagree anon.

>>73199487
You can record directly on to the playlist

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So i just got my keyboard(Novation MK2) and i can't decide how to set up my knobs, pads, and wheels. I would set up the wheels for pitch and modulation but i feel like there could be better uses since i don't mind setting those things by hand. Any idea how i should set this up?

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I really want to hit Kevin Owens with a rick right now, I had to restart reaper 32123123lkglkndfs3421knl times and unplug my ux2 a few times because reaper host 32 kept crashing because the only brass section vsts I can get are 86x. I thought I finally had it, go to render song, notice the beginning was kinda straight. "Huh, well it was the midi intro that just had two vsts, it's probably just really quiet" Open song and I'm missing like 2 minutes of the song because shit kept crashing. why da bits gotta do this to me, I'm just tryin'a make more black metal?

>>73200042
How would i do that?

>>73200042
FeelsBadMan ive been recording through edison for the better part of a year

is it worth spending shekels on a midi keyboard with aftertouch

How to create the type of rumbling heard in this track? And the atmosphere.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1Yk4_WdiU

>>73201680

Surgeon uses that kinda thing a lot too - I'll describe how I'd do it and it might be close to the actual technique and it might not be.

I'd take a short loop of random noise - white or pink etc would be too "smooth" for this so you'd need something with a bit of grit/granularity to it - like a snippet of an explosion or something, stretched a little perhaps so you get a longer sample that loops clean.

Low-pass filter it so all you've got is the rumble, and then maybe low-cut some of the sub content out, then use a compressor with the kick drum as its sidechain input to make the rumble decrease in level when the kick drum hits.

>>73195731
>betraying lunga and trying to bait the rest of /moo/ in with roasty pic

u a shit op, op

>>73201640
it is if you want aftertouch???? if you're choosing to play on a keyboard idg why you would forfeit half the benefits unless you just don't give a shit

>>73200089
just set them for whatever you'd normally spend the most time doing.... even if it only takes a few minutes to automate your normal mods it's still a disruption in flow. when I stop being a useless neet i'm gettin freaky with ableton macros <.<

>>73199698
as a forthetimebeing clean alky: sober up if you want to make music. I was doing the same shit making idm, doesn't work man

>>73197556
>just bee urself xD

decide and be deliberate about what you're going to do or just see what happens, there's no other way man

>>73198042
I think if you exaggerated some off-timedededness of the higher pitched part it would sound a lot more playful.... although it sounds weird as is lol

>>73197460
thx 4 the kek


>>73201680
are you talking about the sound under the kick?

if i were to try making that right now i'd load up a convolution reverb (or whatever you have that's able to reverse) set it short/gated and throw a bit crusher (/erosion in ableton>>>) ... it might have to be resampled and fucked more though.

>atmosphere
>???

I mean it's just the typical use of reverb in a lot of this type of techno... a lot of samples pretty wet with occasional delay. I like this though

(or i guess this is less complicated lol >>73201935)

>>73201680
that's a distorted kick
low pass all your percussion
keep things minimal and leave a lot of space open

>>73201961
Thanks man, as someone that was forthetimebeing, this is just a period of time drinking. Idk if I will ever finish anything, worth a try though.

>>73201961
>>73202037
Speaking of which, have any personal idm tunes I can listen to?

>>73200582
>>73200604
When this window shows up, choose record directly into the playlist as an audio clip

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>>73202363
forgot pic

>>73202133
sure man, i'm trying to finish up a mixtape of some stuff from the past few months- if you've got any critique on this mix i'd be glad to hear it

https://clyp.it/id1h0xxx?token=190977cf7660757b9a6af66500b4a47d

>>73201961
>>73198042
What do you mean by "weird as it is"? Does the lead sound bad?

>>73202363
>>73202380
Oh shiiiiz thanks so much!
I was thinking about switching to albeton cause recording shit into edison was beginning to fuck my workflow up and get on my nerves

>>73202484
I didn't mean that in bad way at all, just that the lead and the rest of the song contrast a lot. Everything but the lead is pretty dark sounding, combined it gives me an odd feeling, but others might feel differently of course.

>>73202513
No prob, I hate edison too

checking that don't ask in the future box helps too

>no sadowick

>>73202554
Ok thanks for the clarification, i might have to make the lead more dark then, cause thats the vibe im goin for

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>>73201935
or just distort the kick, high pass filter modulation, then low pass and compress
preserve the low end by doing the distortion and high pass in parallel with the dry signal.

example I threw together: https://clyp.it/g14esxzq

>>73201935
Thank you
>>73201961
Thank you
>>73202015
Thank you

>>73196403
I am a classically trained pianist, but still make songs that only use 2 chords. There is literally nothing wrong with that if it sounds good.

I will NEVER, never make a song better than this. There's almost comfort in knowing I have to quit music forever now because nothing will compare.

https://clyp.it/lwtjeml5

>>73203726
It's not even ironically good

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My monitors seem to be showing a lot less bass than headphones and certain car systems. I test a lot of my mixes in my friend's car and there's a huge difference between his system and my monitors. He is turning up the bass on his car's EQ, but everything he plays on it sounds normal. So even if I make the bass in a track completely dead on my monitors, it still sounds boomy and unbalanced in his car.
How do I mix a song to work on completely different systems? Add a subwoofer to my setup?
Supposedly my monitors have a pretty flat response.
https://www.stereophile.com/content/usher-audio-technology-s-520-loudspeaker-measurements

>>73204205
they're called reference tracks m8

>>73203160
>you solved a captcha to post this

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>tfw just got a mic

it's starting boys

>>73205733
Ahh yeh I remember that feel. What kind and what's the intended purpose?

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>>73205790
my man.

it's just an audio technica, i'm gonna plug it into my practice amp and just jam with my boys. but it's for sure gonna help me write shit

before this i would just play guitar and my boys would play drums and bass but i'd have to try to yell over shit and it just was stupid playing songs you know? and now i can sing and i'm excited as fuck, i love vocals

i have a shitty voice but who cares

>>73205845
sounds awesome wish I had a crew like that. I just mix samples together on my offtime

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got an electronic drumset to make recording easier. just gotta figure out how to record it and edit it in protools. shouldnt be too hard

>>73205930
iktf

Reposting from the last thread, but is there a point to buying dotcom format over eurorack in the current year? The only modules eurorack seems to be missing are some clones of early moog designs.

>>73205930
>>73206020
you guys gotta try to get a crew. i played guitar for 12 years before this but i hadn't really played until i played with other people it's great

but i wouldn't know how to meet them. i met these guys in HS

although if you stop by college bands i think you could meet people

>>73200089
you can make a drum machine with that setup
if you interested i can post explanation

>>73205966
unless it has a different audio exit for each pad it will be a pain in the ass to produce, you are better off getting some good drum vst and using it as midi controller

>>73206222
u need to know other musicians, if you are good they'll call you for a hand on their projects, even if its not your kind of music you should help them in what they need and they will ultimately connect you with more musicians (some of which will possibly like what you like) and help you in your projects when you need sth you don't know how to do

>>73195731
Who is this cum meteorite?

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>>73206387
>>73206387
ok going to sleep soon so ill explain it anyways, what you need is at least 16 light-feedbacked buttons, if you have 24 light feedbacked buttons better

first you do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9ajWsxNJfA

then you send the midi to a drumrack and, if needed, use the pitch midi fx to up or down your notes till you allign with the ones that trigger the drum hits

then you get sixteen macros 2.0 max midi fx, this has 64*16 knobs separated in groups of 16
and you map the sixteen different knobs of say the kick to the knobs that control step on /step off

you then go to preset n°2 and do the same for the hh, then n°3 and the same for the hh-o, etc, etc

your limit is 8 bodies

after you do this, you map your white buttons to the 16 knobs, this mapping will be consistent on all the presets

then you make the 1-8 black buttons to send note on/note off messages(midi notes instead of cc) of 8 consecutives notes(important) , and map them all as a bunch to the preset changer, on the midi mapping view you restrict the upper range to 8

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>>73206783
(now, if you got 24 light feedbacked buttons what you will want to do is to make a new midi channel, put 8 clips in it, set the quantization mode to none, and map each one to each one of your 1-8 black buttons, this will give you light feedback for what drum body pattern you are seeing in the white buttons)

So, what you are left with now is, each time you press a black button you are switching the mapper preset to a 16 step pattern for each drum body, you can switch through them and change pattern on the fly

If you have some extra buttons, you can duplicate your initial midi clip, the one that handles the stepsequencer, and give each one of them a different groove setting, so you can switch through them according to what you are going for.

Now 4 faders/knobs you could do several things, but given you don't have light feedback on them, i would be careful with using the max preset mapper to map everything, since you will easily get lost if you aren't looking at the screen and can fuck up what would otherwise be a perfect performance.

Things ive tried with faders/knobs => volumes, decay/release, pitches, sends, fx for the whole drum bus (reverb/delay/compressor/saturators, whatever you can think of), and, another neat trick:

You can set up a chain of "logic gates" with audio racks with two channels, one dry and one with a looper, this allows you to record your patterns part by part, and to mix several fxs into one big audio ball, but i wont go into it in here cause i lost the explanation and i cant find it anymore, doe if you mess around with what i just said you will be able to find how its done

>>73206783
>the sixteen different knobs
of the midi racks controlling the hits, that you created on the first video

>to the knobs that control step on /step off
meaning the sixteen macros 2.0 knobs

>>73206783
>your limit is 8 bodies
cause you have the 8 black buttons (the ones beneath the faders)

forgot to say, if you use less, say you just want 4 bodies, you can use the extra 4 to controll stuff like body mutes or whatever else you can think off that just needs a simple on/off dynamic

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>>73206802
>>73206792
>>73206788
>>73206783

>>73206856
if you are deeply autistic, you can also get your drumrack, and on each body you place a midi random fx, a midi scale fx on C, an replace the simplers for impulses, on the impulses you copy paste either round-robbin samples or the same sample and (very) slightly edit the parameters of each one, filters, attack/decays, maybe transposition too

So then what you get is everytime the body is hit, it randoms between each of the 8 possible sounds giving your drumrack a bit more life

Ffs do you think he cares enough to do all that loool

Can I get some feedback on this master,

https://clyp.it/xyua0an5

Thanks :)

>ableton stock fx sound worse than a 90s multi fx unit
how is this possible?

>>73195731

I want to cum on her tits if you know what I mean ;)

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Ive never made music before besides playing piano, guitar and sax as a child/teenage and I'd like to start making music as creative expression.

Do I need anything besides a midi controller, audio interface and studio headphones? Will be getting a mic later and am learning guitar once I have the money.

>>73207983
A good grasp on music theory helps

>>73208080
Besides the courses mentioned in OP's post, can you recommend any learning system or is it the more you do it the better you get?

https://clyp.it/blcq34ym

HOWS MY Mastering lads? I can't get it to the maximum it seems!!

>>73202602
>hate edison
??
why??

>>73208152
are they not enough?
>>73207983
how do you even express yourself and your emotions? in any art, i have no idea..

>>73208927
well I also draw so in in real life it's like I'm constantly underwater holding my breath but as soon as I put pen to paper I splash up out of the water and can breathe again

>>73208967
ur weird bro

is it a bad idea to just pirate a DAW and start dicking around with music until i've made a collection of noise that i like?
at some point i do sort of intend to read and try to learn things properly, but i'm interested if that can yield anything remotely serviceable. (in the same way as sort of childish doodling does for visual art, or something.)

>>73209387
>is it a bad idea to just pirate a DAW and start dicking around with music until i've made a collection of noise that i like?
Nah, I wish I did that actually. Been writing music for a while but only recently started using a DAW so progress is much slower than it'd be if I was already familiar with the software. It's like learning an instrument.

>>73209387
If you do it too long, later you'd think you lost your time. Fiddle to figure out the daw

>>73209387
>>73209438
Writing and recording are two separate process. Do not confuse them, your craft will only suffer in the long run.

>>73208980
don't hit on me faggot

>>73207482
>how to tell someone is new

>>73206449
my drumset is technically a midi controller

>>73206783
but dont the pads on that midi controller actually just represent notes on the same midi channel?

literally why even have keys.

>>73204205
is your room treated? if not, that's the reason.
You've probably got standing waves killing the bass frequencies where you are sitting.

>>73208152
If you want to learn music theory, the best place is university / college.

>>73207179
well then he is a faggot

>>73210344
what?

>>73209994
yeah, but you talked about recording

https://clyp.it/tnhjogaz
first 2 mins of my WIP. I actually have the whole track laid out, just needs some fine tuning and mixing. comments, thoughts, recommendations?

>>73202982
I appreciate you doing all of that for me. Thank you!

https://clyp.it/lxjxddgj

Finally finished with this, probably the best "EDM" track I've made so far.
What's your opinion guys.

>Into 80s music
>Realize all the 80s quality synths and samples are just a crutch for a lack of composition and performance skill
God I'm so fucking stupid. Like I could go back in time and give Peter Gabriel and Corey Hart and Ultravox a laptop with a cracked FL Studio and VST of the Week and they'd still have that 80s sound because their performances and compositions are the REAL sound, not the surface level 12-bit drum machines and dull tapes and simple pulse / saw synths. Fuck me, put that in my obituary.

>>73213281
ur halfway there now

>>73213257
It sounds polished and professional but it is lacking in any originality imo. Just sounds like another generic edm song.

>>73208967
This sounds very melodramatic

Alright I'm carrying my collection of basic 80s synth programming into Sytrus so I can ditch the stupid dull aesthetic and I ran into an issue, which I solved and will get into later, and that is that Sytrus doesn't have Pulse Width Modulation. You can adjust the waveform to get thinner or wider pulses but that's it. However. If you have two squares, invert one, and modulate the phase of the second then they'll essentially add up to different pulse widths. Now I can get my classic PWM strings.

How to mix and master a hip hop beat on Ableton?

probably gonna look into buying a synth or digital piano/midi controller, any recs? got about 400 to spend.
trying to find something with a decent range of keys
side note, anybody else getting attacked by serum ads on facebook

>>73196298
kek

>>73206517
doesnt even rhyme

>>73195731
who is this ejaculate graduate?

>>73208915
I find it pointless, I can just record to the playlist and do whatever I want from there

>>73213322
Aw man, first of all I'm happy it sounds professional and polished but I thought that at least at parts it was lil bit original. Oh well, gonna have to try harder for my album.

Anybody know where to find South American percussive samples?

>>73216421
Just google "latin percussion", i got mine on audioz.

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I absolutely love DSK vsts, but are there any other free vsts that offer a white array of instruments and classical sections that are 64x? I'm climbing out of holes to fall in more holes with these 32x and 86x vsts and 64x reaper

Hey /prod/ hopefully you can help, this didn't happen on my previous computer, which had a worse processor and RAM. But, I noticed some input lag in my DAW, so I did what any rational human being would do and lowered the buffer size to 16. I was still getting 2.0 latency which is not at all optimal for me. So I increased the sampling rate to 9600 which brought my latency to 1.4 milliseconds which im very happy with. HOWEVER, when ever I record or press play i'll get nothing but a high pitched ringing 3 times out of 5. If i keep spamming play, or record it'll actually begin to record or play.

Anyone know what the problem is? RAM is clocked at 2400mhz 16 gbs, and I have a ryzen 5 1600. So i'm doubting it's my hardware, drivers are also all up to date. Any help would be appreciated

>>73216082
Take what i said with a grain of salt my man, i dont listen to much edm so i would get a second opinion from some one who is more well versed in the genre.
Keep at it.

>>73217726
Oh alright man, thanks for listening anyway <3

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>>73196298
>yogurt ogre

hey guys, just looking for the name of a pitch shifting audio manipulation plugin used very commonly in music.
some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1UTTNeAcg4
happens clearly at 1:25 and throughout the song at other places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZQFUhW5uI
happens very clearly after the drop at 0:59 throughout.
thanks :)

>>73218033
tapestop

>>73195731
How the hell do you get your 808s so punchy and clear? I've been using the stock samples that came with ableton + eq and comp and I can't get anywhere near this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLqWjUWGYFA

>>73218126
thankss so much, been looking literally everywhere for thiss

>>73213257
>https://clyp.it/lxjxddgj
The other guy is bang on the money. It sounds very well done, get it mastered and it will sound professional. However, the genre of music doesn't do anything for me. The song writing is extremely straight forward. Build up, drop, build up drop, build up drop.

>>73218321
India culiá fea.

I've been practicing making music in FL studio, I'd like to get some feedback on this song so I have some idea how far I've come.

https://clyp.it/yojmdxus

>>73218290
Ah fair enough man.Hmm, you think the mastering I did sounds professional?

https://clyp.it/mbiysp2k


bleep attempt

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>>73218628

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obvious mixing aside.

do you think the rapping vocals work here?

what type of vocals do work here?

I've been trying to make something work with this noise/dream pop/hip hop thing

https://clyp.it/gpvfyw05

>>73218290

then what do you think about this (I know It's soundcloud but I just would like an honest review on here rather than fake comments on sc)
https://soundcloud.com/monokkult/lost

>>73216578
thats not south american

>>73218778
Best thing I've heard on /prod/ in a long while.
If you put similar stuff into an album, I would happily purchase it.
I wish i was able to make shit like this honestly.
Only qualm is that the end part is completely different from the rest of the song and imo doesnt fit.

>>73218628
Learn some theory nigga.
>inb4 "X" doesn't know anything about theory and makes great music
Yeah, but you are not making great music, give it a try, it'll help you becoming a better producer.

>>73219070
Vocals remind me a tad of massive attack. I think they work yea

>>73219070
>https://clyp.it/yojmdxus
ok yeah at like 2:31 thats when the hairs on the back of my neck start to stand up

I've got a problem using audacity/renoise. A lot of my tracks seem to be significantly quieter when compared to other stuff, even though I try to make them as balanced as possible and have my loudest peaks at 0dB. Am I doing something wrong here?

>>73219250
>>73219070
Wrong clyp link sorry:
https://clyp.it/gpvfyw05 instead im talking about

>>73216847
you must have a shit soundcard

>>73219194
Dude that's very kind of you, thanks
I honestly tried to copy a lot from vsnares and boards of canada, I'm using Ableton atm and I'm not even close to learn how to use it properly

like you said, I'm trying to make some sort of album/publication and at the end, that's the transition into the second song

Anyway, I spent the last months downloading samples, I've got a huge archive by now, I've got this notebook with all the files that could work together

Yes, I don't have a job

>>73211576
pads and keys are on the same midi channel, what don't you understand?

>>73219303
Ah that explains it, cause it sounded quite different. Yeah never thought about it like that regarding the samples, interesting to say the least.

>nobody notices you in /prod/ but you're not willing to beg for attention

I GUESS I SUCK. THIS MEANS I MUST WORK HARDER

>>73219462
no, it means that no one in /prod/ actually cares about any other music but their own

>>73219462

Show me what you got.

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>>73219774
>he thinks I even care about my own music

>>73219462
Nah, when you suck you get told in depth how much you suck. No comments means there's nothing worth noting.

https://clyp.it/12anwojq
I'm new to mixing vocals. How do I subtly but effectively minimize the hiss from the sibilance.

>>73197556
make a fuckton of tracks. a FUCKTON.

>>73219867
if you don't who will

>>73219937
my family and friends who love and support me

>>73219774
desu I don't give a shit about 90% of /prod/ers either but I still listen to their shit and reply because I want more people to make better music :(

>>73219880
desu I actually considered this but dismissed the thought because it doesn't benefit you to think your song is good enough as is. I got "interesting" and "unique" once but that doesn't help to improve lol

>>73219867
who are you tho

>>73219894
de esser and multiband compression are the usual tricks

pros go in and manually edit out the parts that they can before that

>>73220203
>it doesn't benefit you to think your song is good enough as is
If it was someone would say so. No comments means it's neither good or bad. Which is pretty shitty in itself desu.

>>73220526
brb gonna kms

>>73220203
just a shitty no name who hasn't finished anything original in over a year

>>73220640
>hasn't finished anything original in over a year

JUST DO IT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING GET OFF FUCKING 4CHAN

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https://clyp.it/bgfuarbm

>>73220715
god damn I haven't heard that song in like two months man

>>73198042
I feel like varied velocites should be used on the drums, I'd filter it a bit to match the washed sound of the rest of the track.

>>73218628
Kinda annoying hearing the clap throughout the track.

>>73218778
Nice, the lead is kinda invasive and I think you should try to bring the other stuff more up front in the mix


How's this? https://clyp.it/h4xxokwu

>>73220809
different mix man

>>73220671
it's not from lack of trying
https://clyp.it/opj1bu4e
this currently needs quite a bit of fx and a new lead synth + melody at 4:33

hows this? was gonna start trying to polish it but i figure it would be wise getting some feedback before starting on that.
https://clyp.it/ktvnp00w

i'm gonna experiment record two vocal takes
one a half step above and one half step below
then switch them to the song's pitch
lets see if this makes a fuller sound

>>73219328
how does that affect anything at all, you don't kneed the C-2 range or the C8 one

>>73221515
You might as well use a formant shifter and layer that, apart from the subtle pitch difference you'll get from multiple takes but just add chorus whatever. KeroVee is free and probably the best you'll come across for that price.

>>73220203
if no one posts it doesn't mean anything, you just grow some patience and post it next day, eventually someone who likes to respond will say sth

but honestly, there's no reason for lack of response, could be anything

>>73220883
yeah, I'm having a lot of trouble with mixing
I use my headphones a lot, and when the sound comes out it's completely different
and when I'm recording a track with the guitar, bass etc it sounds like shit

>>73220925
i think you have a problem being a perfectionist lol. not that its bad, cause i like your track a lot, but there reaches a point of diminishing returns with spending more time on a single song and the song ends up being a gigantic 10 minute monster that nobody bothers listening all the way through.
unless you have like hundreds of unfinished songs which is more like me, i have a rolling cutoff of around 6 months where if a project is that old and its not done i either release it as is or drop it.

>>73221605
use reference tracks and switch hearing gear around as much as you can

>>73220925
but this is actually good???? (although I dislike that kick) wtf man >>73221677 has a pointo imo, I think you'll end up being better off in the long run if you get good about finishing things and recognizing that your next song will be better so it's not so terrible that the last one wasn't parfect

>>73221605
unless you can objectively blame your recording gear your tone is probably shit and/or not suited for the song

>>73221600
eh true, i'm sure everyone knows the struggle of not taking these things personally lol

>>73218778
i like it senpai

>>73219894
Can I get some general feedback on this?

>>73221977
for the part with the two vocal parts overlapping, turn down the background one or slop some effects on it or something. cause theyre on the same frequency spectrum space and it sounds like theyre competing for it. having two sound sources compete for the same frequency space makes it sound cluttered.

>>73221838
thank you

I will post something else then, thanks for all the feedback

>>73221789
heh, I don't think it's my gear, my mixer and speakers are fine

>>73198142
Logic is definitely better than FL in regards to working with live audio.

>>73223272
What makes it better for live audio?

put some pauses in your melodies, no one likes a run-on sentence.

How do I into drums? Even if I know what beat I want and can hear it in my head, finding the right sounds seems almost impossible

>>73224388
youre rarely going to find that "perfect" sound, you need to be able to hear potential and be able to shape it into what you want

op gril is makin me drool

i luv prod

>>73224307
Good advice

if you have nothing to say, say nothing

>>73224307
It's called phrasing and shutup that's not true

>>73224577
This*1000

I felt like my drums were always the weak link until I realized I was just being an idiot thinking parallel compression and some reverb with intricate velocity was all it takes.... eq saturation envelopes/transient shapers resampling...

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>>73219894
>>73221977
There's a lot of low end build up and mud. Get the Brainworx bx_dynEQ V2. Go through each track and listen for what's contributing to the mud, and put it on those tracks that are too bassy. Set the band to a low shelf, set the frequency to around 260hz or where you feel is right, then set the threshold so that the dynamic eq controls the bass.

You could also do this is another dynamic eq or multiband compression, but I find this plugin works best for this (and many other things).

Anyone tried out loopcloud? closed beta at the moment but I've been invited, seems kinda cool if it remains free

>>73219057
>>73220883
Thanks for the feedback

>>73219206
Thank you for the feedback too. If you're still here, could you explain a bit what about the song is not good/could be improved with music theory?

I'm definitely going to give music theory a try one of these days, but I have a lot of other things to study atm.

I want to make shitty meme remixes, like Youtube poop style remixes
What software should i use?

>>73226027
doesn't really matter desu

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>>73213806
>Open up chrome
>goto thepiratebay
>torrent 3gigs of waves plugins
>load into ableton
>set plugins on every track (makesure to use nice preset)
>export beats :D

>>73213257
bumping this, anyone else has any insight on the arrangement/mix/mastering?

>>73227647

production is top. you should focus on originality Imo, what music do you listen to?
Mind reviewing my track?
https://soundcloud.com/monokkult/lost

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should i try guitar samples + vocaloid with trap music or is that shit idea
i really liked the stuff big boi did on kill jill and would wanna create some stuff like that

also does using anime images at soundcloud win you the internet audience

https://clyp.it/ijua3ssk

How does this sound, apart from the out of tune singing in parts?
I just quickly threw it together and i wanna know what you guys n gals think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjONt_g7i0

how to make this sound more professional and better https://clyp.it/uo2j2u0o
and more like this mix https://clyp.it/idxxv2g5

>>73228029
vocals are too low, and even the tempo sounds a little strange

you want to turn up the volume of your drums, the melody is fine, I would add a little more reverb

lacks a bass line and a more defined drum track IMHO


>>73228646
well dude, sounds already professional, good job

>>73227940
you just described most of the musical scene right now

everyone listen to trap rock music, AMVs with anime and chillstep /trapstep are so hot right now

it seems like you want to find a niche and sell out, rather than express yourself with music

>>73228820
absolutely coz i do this shit for audience and i wanna be where the audience is with their fucking flavor of the month genres

>>73228820
fuck, i once asked on /prod/ what rock/guitar music with electronic (trap) beats and synth stuff would be like and got shitd on

>everyone listen to trap rock music
/r/ pls

>AMVs with anime and chillstep /trapstep are so hot right now
/r/ those too pls

>>73227918
I listen to pretty much everything my man.
Overall the track lacks "fullness". Sounds very empty because there's only a few things playing. Not digging the chord progression that much either, mix is very quiet and dull.
I'd add much more detail, probably use better drum samples and master it so it's tight and loud.

>>73227940
>should I
>shit idea
get the FUCK off your ass and start experimenting, everything is worth experimenting with bro.

>>73228029
Vocals are too quiet, if it's to hide the out of tune singing, get melodyne, get fixing and bring them up, also treat them a bit, slap some reverb on those nibbas. I dig the chord progression. Drums are super super quiet, bring those up a bit, add some more pads, ambience and foley and you're good. Drumming at 1:10 a bit weird.

>>73228646
The mix is pretty good. It does sound a tiny bit dull, probably because it's a bit too quiet, bring drums up a bit, give it some high freq action going but don't overdo it.

Listening to the other mix you posted, it's super loud and there's more reverb going on, more high freqs overall, more compression.

>when your piano playing so bad when you quantize it it fucks shit up so bad it actually sounds pretty cool

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>>73229049
Every time I quantize my note playing it's completely fucked up. But only because I wasn't even close to being on time in the first place

>>73229049
>>73229224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIfD7ZN5FYI

Unless your issue is hunting and pecking, in which case you've got to learn to just hit a damn note even if it's not right, fix it later. Getting human input on timing and velocity is the important part, you can transpose midi any time you want.

>>73228820
>chillstep /trapstep
It really inflames my almonds when genres just append step as a postfix despite having nothing in common with 2 step garage.

>>73229343
>Getting human input on timing and velocity is the important part
except when that human has shaky hands and anxiety

not him

>>73229513
call that polyrhythms

>>73229513
>shaky hands and anxiety
all a matter of practice

>>73229513
call that radiohead

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What’s up /mu/tants!
I have a problem with vsts, especially serum. When I try to type with my keyboard, it doesn’t write anything, it just plays notes instead. I don’t want that. My PC is connected to a MIDI keyboard. I play notes with my keyboard. When the keep focus thing is on and when I click the bar where I’ll type, it flashes.

>>73229971
>When the keep focus thing is on and when I click the bar where I’ll type, it flashes.
what?

>>73228865
eh, good for you then fren

>>73228897
well, since travis scott/kanye we heard a lot of rock samples in rap/trap tunes
like that last lil yatchy record

on the AMV side, I saw a lot of GitS, Berserk and naruto, just go on youtube

>>73229971
are you on a mac or a pc?
seems like there's some trouble going on with your drivers, since your midi keyboard overlaps your typing characters

>>73229049
record it live, do it a thousand times if necessary, but melodies sound better when actually played
little, microscopic imperfections are key

also, you just can't snap everything to a grid and hope it works

>>73229971
which DAW

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>>73231222
But what happens when someone puts your track against a metronome and it's off

>>73231526
record with the metronome on to keep your timing in check

>>73231526
you mean you're not playing with a metronome? or just a tracking beat

dude, work on your tempo
but, if you can't keep up because, I don't know, you're not that skilled and you miss nailing a few notes in the right spot, you should work on your technique, eventually you will get it right

Retrospectivelly, I remember sequencing midtempo 606-cowbells in my cousins basement and telling myself that a 48hz-slope is kind of oh-kay for a cymbal hi-pass. As time fled by I realized that jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

>>73228646

Dude are you RETARDED??? It's fokken 1917 YOU CAN'T record a fokken GUITAR (!!!!) and up it on the NET BROH without CRINGEING HARD and not knowing that SEQUENCED DRUMS ARE THE FUCKING FUTR, MAYNG and synthesizers FUCKING HAVE TAKEN OVER THE GAME AS man invented fire

>>73232284
what the fuck is wrong with you
get out

How into dead genres? :^)

>>73232336
Stay mad caveman

Lulz

How mad are you about the fact that glorious niggermusic has ultimativelly taken over and you never will be able to bring back "le good ol times" where strumming some sad stories about faggotry was acceptable?

>>73232347
create your own original genre, gain a niche following and then kill yourself ;_;

Rate my clyp.
https://clyp.it/43fnoey0
Replies with links to your own will get feedback <3

>>73232521

Thank you wise little bilderberger

>>73232574
I like it. Reminds me of something I listened to recently I can't remember name of.

>>73232784
Cheers.

I think it needs another section but nothing else is coming out today.

did we ever figure out who the babe

>>73232853
non

>>73229049
>tfw I can play better melodies on my PC keyboard than on my piano

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>>73229049
>quantize

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Still true.

yet another /bleep/

https://clyp.it/2xs0rtwb

>>73233125
you can use vsts now in reason 9.5

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>>73232574
Try this. https://clyp.it/g2yyc3cr

>>73228792
Well the vocals and piano are one recording so no volume or reverb.
Whats wrong with the tempo?
The drums are intentionally minimalist and there is a baseline that comes and goes.
>>73228947
The vocals are quiet because the piano was recorded with it. The singing is out of tune because this was all done in one take so i was figuring out the melody; i aint gonna use melodyne lol can't add reverb as above.
Thanks :)
Drums are meant to be in the background.
Yeah i might add some foley.
Drums at 1:10 are known as polyrhythms.

Thanks for the input both of you!

>tfw love composing electronic music and halfway decent at it
>fucking hate producing/mixing and the "make ur drumz sound SUPER GUD" aspect of it all
>can't even be arsed to learn it
Oh well

>>73233390
on a second listening the vocals are fine, it's the slight uptempo of the beat that makes it a little faded in the mix, sometimes it feels like it skips half a measure
but this sounds like some yung lean/spooky black stuff, you should turn it up a little more

also, work a little with your mic: with the higher notes, you should lean a little back from the mic

I understand your choice of a minimalist drum set, so can't argue with that

you're welcome!

>>73210506
>paying for an education in the arts
some of us are realistic about our futures anon

>>73233774
Yeah youre right i might turn up the drums to bring that elements out.
Yea i mighy do another take keeping that in mind cause i agree the vocal volume is pretty all over the place, esp at the end.

So how much should one pan guitars in a mix?

Say you record two guitars, left and right, how much should one pan them out in the stereo field, 40% 60% 75% 100%? Is there a golden rule? Or is it down to preference?

>>73233668
Stup lying my friend :^) Little cute bilderberger

>>73226844
what is that

So, how do I use the mono mix bus correctly? I tried to figure out all day but all I came across were some tutorials about stereo crossfader units and such. Here I've cut two listening examples together so you could understand my problem and try to help me:

https://voicespice.com/Player.aspx?c=p&h=1F0E9E58&j=521B6

>>73233235

One really does not melody like this

https://clyp.it/kl0aqqlg
Hey /prod/ absolute mixing newb here,
How do i make a bunch of layers of tracks not sound so busy/noisy? And how does one balance out the different volumes to find a suitable level?

>>73234330

You have to tell em to relax and stop being busy

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https://clyp.it/srj03muw

any cc on this WIP?
shoegaze/dancey stuff

>>73234274
>click the toggle master mono button on reaper
>adjust volumes so it sounds good on mono
>toggle back to stereo and check if its fine on stereo

>>73233937
However much sounds right..? It's song by song basis. If you're double tracking in the first place I don't see why you wouldn't just hard pan lol

Pro tip because it happens to a lot of guitarists: if it sounds like shit hard panned the playing isn't tight enough and or too much low end

>>73195731

Nice hanging fruits, i'd like to suck e'm

>>73234330
>How do i make a bunch of layers of tracks not sound so busy/noisy?
Through equalization, for example use high pass to leave space for the bass and kick, boosts on each instruments main frequencies etc
>And how does one balance out the different volumes to find a suitable level?
By fucking experimenting and trying to make the volumes even?

how was that recorded

>>73234330
1. That double bassdrum, get rid of it, replace it with a rythm that compliments the melody rhythmically. It doesnt make the song more energetic, it's just constant droning double bassdrum with no purpose that muddies up everything.

2. I cant hear if you have 3 or 4 guitars going on here, it's a mess. If you're going for multile melodies, learn to counterpoint, otherwise, leave that shit in the trashbin.

3. Drums are way far behind in the mix, pull the drums further to the front

4. guitars are muddy and boomy. EQ out anything below 80-100 hz, reduce the 100-250 area with a few db and you can probably scoop a fair amount out of the 250 - 400 hz area.

5. Your guitar playing is sloppy, really sloppy and off beat. practice playing with a metronome.

>And how does one balance out the different volumes to find a suitable level?
practice, listen to something you deem well mixed and emulate that.

>>73234294
Elaborate

>>73234330
>>73234919
>highpass everything that isn't kick and bass

Even if you didn't say so explicitly everybody stop this meme

Also to rock anon:

Change your fucking guitar tones wtf, yes you have to eq itb but more importantly there should already be separation on the recording. Switch up mic placement as well. Shouldn't need o be said but I will anyway: don't ignore your tone knob and don't be afraid to darken your tones (especially rhythm guitars) more than sounds good alone- they don't need to be that bright and it clutters up the high end

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>>73233235
Guy who you replied to.
This is good.

>>73235029
yes hi pass everything
below 80~60hz on guitar you only have mud and probably hum

>>73234780
I like it, well balanced mix. Drums are a bit sterile and boring, but that's probably the samples you're working with.

Same thing with the piano, sounds a bit cheap.
Maybe that's the schtick, a bit of bedrom Casio keyboard production.

Not completely sure about the pitched vocals, but thats in these days so why not.

I dunno, it's a well rounded song, all I can come with is based solely on preference, not objectivity.
Maybe smash the drums in a paralell buss with some tape saturation to give them more of an edge.

>>73234780
great stuff

https://clyp.it/xd2n10s0

samples and looperman and fl drums

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>>73235216
nothing is in key here.

the brush snare is killing my ears.

the 808 sounds like it's coming from two blocks down the street

random brass samples out of nowhere

random nexus pad in my left ear

just stop whatever it is you're doing, learn 2 music and come back again later.

>>73235322
I lol'd at two blocks down the street 808s

How can I remove a laugh track from something? Like, keep the main voice, but remove or really lower the volume of that shit

>>73235322
so you're saying you didn't like it

>>73235216
This is hard to listen to

>>73235376
can we hear the sound in question so we know what we are dealing with here?

>>73235376
Denoiser might work if the laughter is noisy enough, then gate. Maybe find it in surround sound and look for a less laughy channel, maybe you could even invert one and cancel it out.

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>>73235379
did it sound like I did?

>>73235456
you could feasibly like all those things

people still buy radiohead albums

>>73235464
Yeah but radiohead is atleast in key

>>73235456
sorry cat anon I'll try harder

maybe you'll like this more
https://clyp.it/0gw1h1ag

>>73235493
Its better but those drums are very boring

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can't record, it wont show the input devices, what do

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>>73235493
at least shit is in key, it's better than the first one, but god that chopping is obnoxious. And I can hear you have rounding off on the end of the samples where you chop them since they make a pop sound everytime.
Still sounds like you dont have a clue what the fuck you're doing since you've randomly placed a pitched chord in the middle of a loop that sounds the fuck out of place.

Instead of just tossing loops into FL and hoping shit will be lit, maybe actually compose some music of your own so you'll know when shit works and when it doesnt. Right now it sounds like you have no knowledge of either rythm or chord struture.

I dont have enough cats for this

>>73233937
around 40% to left or right is where the "phantom center" ends, so if I'm going for a distinct "left and right" sound guitar, I'll have them at least past 40%. You have to decide if you want a left and right sound, or just a wide center sound. So basically yes it's down to preference and what works for the mix

>>73235607
> And I can hear you have rounding off
havent* rounded off

>>73235607
ok indulge me one last time
https://clyp.it/qa40jqpi

this one has no samples

>>73235609
Never heard of the phantom center.

I like my guitars at 50% - 60%, but my headphones might be tricking me since headphones tend to lie a fair amount about stereo width, then again, I dont like extreme left/right guitars. Depends alot on the genre and style I guess.

>>73235686
Phantom center is just the term for how when your head is between two speakers, the sound sounds like it's in the center, but obviously there's no speaker in the center. Once you're past 40%, you're out of the phantom center and you're distinctly to whichever direction it's panned to

>>73235666
This makes me want to rip out my fucking ears.
You really need to learn music theory and have an understanding of what notes to play for a given key, cause this is atrocious.

>>73235593
will anyone help
i can't wait all night, i have vocals and guitars to re-record

>>73234921
i greatly appreciate no nonsense criticism like this, thank you.

1. yeah its shit, im not a drummer, i didnt put much thought into it, i used the droning beat because it felt safe and plain to use.
2. Its 2 rhythm and one lead, and it is a mess, thats exactly my point, didnt eq shit, but ill mess around with it and see what sounds good.
3. Noted
4. The recording and tone is trash, sounds like to much gain from the amp in hindsight, another thing i need to toy around with.
5. Absolutely correct

>>73235666
is that roller coaster tycoon?

Again, nothing is in key, everything sounds like they were recorded on seperate planets.

how long have you been doing this for?

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>>73235796
forgot the fucking cat

>>73235796
lol yes it is from rct

I just taught myself how to make beats for fun, or so I thought. It's been off and on for like 2 years. I never thought they were amazing but I had a bunch sitting around so I figured I'd see what people thought

You're right though I don't know shit about keys or music theory or how to mix properly I just throw stuff together that I think sounds good

>>73235740
exit any program that might take single priority over the sound driver (games, other sound editing software, video editing sofware etc)

if that doesnt wort

restart your computer

if that doesnt work

try reinstalling sound driver.

if that doesnt work

record guitars with a phone

good luck

I'm too new to pull this off.
The idea is that it sounds like it skips a beat, but it doesn't.
Feedback appretiated
https://clyp.it/kffajfcd

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https://soundcloud.com/yung-caucasian/
https://soundcloud.com/yung-caucasian/
https://soundcloud.com/yung-caucasian/

>>73235848
Well your ear is very off for working out 'good' sounding melodies because they sound very incoherent

lol meme rap guys am i rite !!

>>73235091
Of it clearly helps your song, then yes

As a default cut- no, especially if there are only a few instruments. I'm not saying it's not often a good idea on electric guitars, just that nobody should do it by default

>>73235852
audacity is recording but it leaves a delay thats hard to compensate right

>>73235917
i agree

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>>73235848
>I just taught myself how to make beats for fun
well at least you're not hurting anybody

If you're planning on making a career or a serious hobby out of this, you have alot to learn.

If not and it's just funny hobby, knock yourself out.

>>73235876
I enjoyed listening to this

>>73235918
>a delay
latency?

Record without monitoring, it's your best bet, you can hear your guitar well enough without any effects.

>>73235376
Removing sounds is done with phasing- if you can find the exact laugh track, line it up and flip the phase. Otherwise your out of luck, just gotta eq of cover it up.

It's kind of a long shot without hearing it but if something's mono and the other isn't you may be able to isolate one sound and then use that to do what I just said. Probably not though

>>73235973
im miking the amp, monitorings not a problem
problem is syncing it with the songs metronome

https://clyp.it/aq4pmeve
https://clyp.it/4ncpyfhj
https://clyp.it/rk0rjjgf

three beats ive been working on for you guys
sincerely yung caucasian

>>73235976
How would he phase it out if there's other sounds on top? Even if he has the exact track

>>73235944
yeah when I first started I had aspirations to become the next Kanye but I soon found out how much time and dedication and that actually takes so now I just shit out a beat every week or so, whenever I'm in the mood

I'll leave you guys with one more, my favorite of mine. I got these loops from looperman so I think they should be in key and the drums are a lot quieter
https://clyp.it/sravekaz

>>73235918
>audacity

Fucking nigger. First off download reaper if you're not going to pirate some shit, and then assuming you're actually playing in time, just nudge your track so it's in time

>>73236040
he's absolutely right, what remains is the difference between the two
pretty impossible to find the exact underlying tracks though and edit it to be in sync all the time

>>73236040
Phase flip still works, that's how people get acapellas and all that

>>73236056
^^^^^^^

unless he's literally not using a daw and just straight up recording in audacity

>>73236031
They sounds ok but they are just generic trap beats and you're not going to get anywhere by advertising these.
You need to make them interesting otherwise they are just going to get lost in the background noise with all the other shitty trap beats.

Does anyone else hate the trap style rolling hi hats that infest 90% of what gets posted in /prod/?

>>73236142
nope

>>73236056
fucking retard. its reaper that im having problem with >>73235593
>just nudge your track so it's in time
i cant get it exactly on the time i played it

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Do any of you guys know from what synth the stab at 0:33 comes from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R__Nf8M5VN4

>>73236142
Depends where it is.

>>73236142
>hating on the best thing that has come out of trap (and memphis (i think) )

>>73236031
https://clyp.it/v23d34em

sorry guys! forgot about this one
it's a remix of Trap Still Bunkin Part 2 by Loud Lord

>>73235949
Thanks mydude. I was getting ready for some painful deconstructing but I'll take this lmao

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>>73235888

>>73236524
thank you for your suggestion!

>>73235888
Why so many idiots are adopting the yung meme? What's up with that?

>>73236549
im not a meme wtff

>>73235876
toexperiemental4me/10

and EQ that bass, way to much 200-400 hz, maybe dial it back, it's way to loud compared to the drums.

Make a beat that actually drives the beat forward, now it's a slugg crawling along.

>>73236623
I can't figure it out. I can't make it move with a missing snare

Thanks for the eq tip, I'll see tomorrow as it's late

who is the girl in pic related

please.................

>>73237180
>girl

>>73237297

>>73234832
youre not funny ist dir das bewusst?

>>73237435
wut

>>73228947
>The mix is pretty good. It does sound a tiny bit dull, probably because it's a bit too quiet, bring drums up a bit, give it some high freq action going but don't overdo it.
>Listening to the other mix you posted, it's super loud and there's more reverb going on, more high freqs overall, more compression.
thanks man, done these stuff, just gonna re-record the guitars and vocals and will repost the new mix