alright kids, let's get this finished.
interesting idea
you really think corgan suffered 70% of his life?
PUT NICK DRAKE BACK OP
I'M NOT KIDDING
>>73133965
Move thug to S90 D45
move Travis to S10 D60
S 55
D 100
S 70
D 100
Why the fuck is David Bowie more deserving of suffering than Sid Vicious?
>>73134635
>d: 100
no, more like 60-65
>>73133965
seems to be the worst suffering chart of them all
S 80
D 30
>>73133965
Didn't see her on the graph so Taylor Swift should be at D 60 and S 15 (for going through so many breakups)
>>73134768
dude was a pedophile, he deserves at least an 80
>>73134184
he's at 95/10
>>73134905
Was he proven to be a real pedophile or was he just compiling shit for his magazine? Either way that doesn't stack up with the type of people we have already have up in that level, especially since he never acted on it
>>73134979
it's fair to say he deserves worse than Cal Chuchesta imo
>>73135027
Well Cal's there as a meme
>>73135082
Ok, well another point of comparison: Clapton was just a general asshole and a racist whereas Sotos actually has charges put against him. Yes you can argue that he was doing "research" for Pure magazine but it's likely that he's just a sick fuck. He also wrote about the pleasures of child abuse and borderline glorified those kinds of sick acts
>>73135168
Then Clapton is too high
where does Stefan go?
>>73133965
>d 50 s 55
Varg deserves more.
>d 85 s 85
whats wrong with The Fall guy?
>>73133965
JUSTICE FOR GRIMES, MOTHERFUCKERS!
>suffering: 5
what about this?
"Visions was an extremely cathartic album to make. I went through a period a few years back when I was really addicted to drugs. Two of my best friends died, I had this really fucked-up assault experience and I was constantly in and out of terrible relationships. I never really dealt with all that, but I eventually realised that by making songs I could work through these things that had been plaguing me for years."
As a result, Claire reckons there is a "weird jubilance" to Visions. "It can totally be a party album if you want, which is hilarious to me because it's so tortured. But because it's about sloughing off that pain, there is a kind of joy in the way it takes you from utter depression to utter ecstasy."
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/apr/28/grimes-visions-montreal
>deserving: 95
fuckwit hater detected. fuck you very much.
>>73135224
Nah keep it for the meme and so more people like this get mad
>>73135237
This. She's in the perfect spot.
>>73135224
fair enough, maybe put her at S 55 D 95 instead
I wanna put Marvin Gaye in s 80 d 30 but I feel like he didn't deserve it at all.
Grimes fans getting triggered because she's got a worse spot then Hayley Williams
S90
D50
Can someone tell me who is in each corner of the graph? Don't recognize any.
>>73135299
>D 95
TRIGGERED
>>73135351
no way. many grimes fans love hayley as well. they're triggered because grimes was placed ridiculously wrong. she should be somewhere like S 60 D 5.
D 95 is completely out of place and S 5 is completely false according to the facts.
>>73135585
>TRIGGERED
lmao wtf? what kind of meme is this?
keep D: 95 for Grimes, or move her to S: 60 D:40 or something and put grimes fans where Grimes is
>>73133965
Thurston Moore is there twice.
Also, he doesn't deserve 100 at suffering. He should be 75 to 85
beefheart doesnt deserve to be next to watkins
>make best rock album of all time
>abuse bandmates in the process
seems like a small price to pay
>>73135622
her fans are nice people if you don't mess with them. e.g. if you ask them about some rarities or some grimes interviews, they're very helpful.
why this cat
>>73135299
I agree
>>73134283
He should be 0 on S desu
>>73135717
>her fans are nice people if you don't mess with them
sure, but they define "messing with" as "saying anything about Grimes", in which case they will turn autistic. And I do like Grimes, but not to the degree that these people do
>>73135820
Is that KT?
Montie
S: 35
D: 70
>>73135948
true, I figured he's been completely disgraced and he's had his grave vandalized so that's gotta count for something, but then again that all happened after he died
>>73135982
>but they define "messing with" as "saying anything about Grimes",
i doubt it. there's a fine line between criticism and trolling. most people who "criticize" grimes on /mu/ talk like shit about her. they focus on her appearance and say shallow crap like "her music sucks". i never saw a decent analysis of why her music is bad. not even once.
that stupid trollish behaviour demands some proper action. that's why the trolls have difficulties in her threads and whine about that later.
be nice and they will be nice.
>>73136364
>demands proper action
no it doesn't. if grimes fans just let those retards say whatever and didn't fall for the bait then the baiting would probably stop.
alright... I'm guessing Mike Love is at the bottom right...
I just got into the Beach Boys, so I'm kind of curious... What the fuck did he do/What's his fucking problem?
Where's Sun Ra?
Here's another pic of him if you're gonna be autistic about the last pic I gave you.
S:30
D:50
>>73136408
that's not how /mu/ works. /grimes/ is their place, if you (in general) come here to shitpost, be prepared to have your ass kicked. bonus: maybe even a temp ban on top of that.
as i said, her fans are nice people in general.
>>73136520
I'm not talking about /grimes/, plus you're sort of assuming that the grimes fans end up winning the argument, which almost never happens
>>73136671
>you're sort of assuming that the grimes fans end up winning the argument, which almost never happens
actually they won almost any argument. case in point: right now in their thread >>73129337
a dude dropped the bomb here:
>>73130380
>no one can explain why grimes should be considered important within musical history
>instead all comments are surface level shit like "she's awkward and cute" and "be nice to her because she tries hard"
...and when he got a proper reply here:
>>73133691
>>73133706
he chickened out:
>>73134226
this is how you beat naysayers: with solid arguments.
>>73135186
I agree about Varg, dickhead is a murderer. Also, who's at S55 D65? Looks like Jari Maenpaa, wtf did he do to deserve that place?
is OP kill?
Varg and Billy should be switched thb
>>73136879
>links to one example in one thread that I said I wasn't talking about
xD
>>73135182
Suffering is definitely >85
>>73134145
huge fans of him like myself know from reading these short memories he would post that he had a really shitty childhood, brother had problems, stepmom was a MASSIVE FUCKING BITCH towards the boys, family was poor as fuck. not to mention later on his marriage with his first wife ended terrible and he also had to deal with Courtney Love at one point
I feel like thom yorke suffered a little more than that
He deserves some though
Hank Williams
S:80
D:60
Robert Johnson
S:>70
D:<30
>>73137246
>expecting me to hunt down specific examples in other threads
xD
>>73133965
>K-Fed suffered more than MJ and deserved it more than Gary Glitter
cmon son, as if you wouldnt marry a nutty rich chick if she asked.
>>73136441
Mike is a scapegoat for Brian's suffering, he's almost top left
>>73137660
I'm not expecting you to hunt down specific examples, but the least you could do is read my fucking post before giving an example that doesn't even fit
S - 80
D - 30
Busdriver
S: 25
D: 40
If we increase the suffering will eventually how much they deserved it decrease?
>>73138146
forgot pic
>>73138144
Ween don't belong on this graph at all because there's no option to put them on D: 0, where they belong.
S:20
D:70
>>73133965
they died omg that means they suffered
>>73134635
another retard that probably actually thinks Sotos is a pedophile. nice
>>73138144
I think Gene is already on there somewhere.
>>73133965
did bowie really suffer
>>73133965
Wheres Bootzilla?
Is frusciante already on there? if not he's a perfect fit for S:80 D:30
>>73138832
I'd be down with that
>>73138832
This is a good idea
>>73136122
This is a bad idea
>>73133965
bumping this thread I want to see it finished.
OP is not kill, gimme a sec
>>73139560
HOORAY
>>73139560
OP you fucking cunt get back in here.
>>73139748
OP is a cheeky bastard
>>73139748
>>73139792
He just likes to tease people. Sick fuck gets off to it.
>>73139844
>>73139792
He can fucking tease my entire family and then murder them I don't give a shit as long as he puts Frusciante in S:80 D:30
Tom Waits
S:20
D:40
>>73140125
What's Tom Waits ever done to deserve to suffer??
>>73140158
>>73140125
Don't even bother guys OP has forsaken us.
Now I'll never see my waifu FruFru at S:80 D:30 his rightful place
>>73140125
Literally nothing but all the other spots are taken and he deserves to be somewhere on the chart at least.
>>73140198
meant for
>>73140158
Phil Spector 80,30
>>73138741
Not seeing him. What's that S/D?
>>73140294
Gener s65, d40
>>73133965
phil spector didn't kill that dumb bitch
>>73140272
That space is reserved for John Frusciante who spent 10 years of his life as a heroin addict and nearly died multiple times from overdoses and house fires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngw07DZQrGQ
Bumping out of my last shred of faith that OP hasn't left us.
Is Cornell in there? Can't tell
>>73135631
this
Blind willie johnson
S:80
D:30
where is my boy Michael Gira??
bump
op plz don't be kill :((
Who's at 100/100?
OP YOU FUCK
sorry lads, I've been working double shifts the last few days, so I've had little opportunity to work on this. working now tho
>>73136350
A firewall for higher-ups. Still a cunt, tho.
I always wanted to know who the guy on the top right was, anyone care to enlighten me?
>>73143790
its that dude from that british emo band lost prophets. he fucked a 3 year old
I'd never leave you guys, fuck the h8rs.
If you suggest I put somebody in a place where someone else is, I've been trying to get as close to that spot as possible
>>73135631
where are they?
>>73144246
tanks op :))
Brendan Fraser should be top left
What did Townes ever do to deserve that much suffering?
>Around the time of their April 1993 separation, Jeanene coaxed the musician into signing over the publishing rights of his entire back catalog and recording royalties to her and their children. Townes's only source of income after this point was money received from concert engagements, and even then Townes would frequently visit his ex-wife and "give her all the money in his pockets."
>Following their divorce in 1994, his only worldly possessions were listed as a 1989 GMC Truck with camper shell, a 1984 Honda Shadow motorcycle and a 1983 Starwind 22-foot boat named Dorothy; he also retained sole ownership of his family inheritance of "ownership in oil lease and mineral rights.
Other sufferin country singers, Steve Earle, Blaze Foley, and most definitely Glen Campbell ought to be up there
is mac demarco on here and I'm not seeing him? if not, add him to
S: 5
D: 40
>Implying Bob Dylan didn't deserve most of his suffering
S:45, D:50 makes a lot more sense
>>73144535
he's at S:40 and D:5
bretty close if you ask me
>>73144576
um, what was the reasoning behind that one
when has he ever suffered
>>73144669
Dude was homeless for a long while, drug problems, the girl he was gonna marry cheated on him and left him
I think his D should be a bit higher though
>>73144669
His dad also made drugs left mac and his mom when he was young
I think that d:5 is okay, he himself seems like a nice guy
wheres rivers lol?
>>73142174
A child rapist, a welsh thrash metalist I think, forgot his name
>>73144535
>D: 40
What the fuck, what the hell did he do?
This needs a name list, sorry to say m8
>>73133965
when this is finished, someone post a name list please
>>73134184
Yeah, I thought it'd been changed round too
>>73142174
>>73144881
Ian Watkins
We need to be faster, all the others boards already finished it, even /his/
S: 50
D: 55
>>73144246
The idea that john frusciante has only suffered as much as Joji is fucking retarded.
Look at the state he was in, OP. Then rearrange. Fucker should be 80+ on suffering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngw07DZQrGQ
S 65
D 80
John Lennon should be 80+ on S. Just listening to Plastic Ono Band for the first time made me anxious.
I think you should take some liberties and rearrange it if it gets finished, OP. It's not that accurate.
>>73148588
Joji is the one that sould be higher lol
Shane MacGowan
S: 75
D:50
>>73140324
thats deaner you fucking imbecile
>>73144246
Deserve 50 Suffer 30
80 / 30
50 Cent
S: 65
D: 50
>>73133965
I haven't been keeping up with this, what happened to Lana Del Rey to put her above Gira?
>>73133965
>nardwuar at only 30 suffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNvk2MgiCc