ITT: essential poseurcore

>inb4 pleb
Poseurcore doesn't mean bad. It means that these albums are albums that poseurs typically listen to and brag about listening to super experimental music whilst only knowing essentials

>>73131614
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats

>>73131688
At least try to make your baits somewhat believable or funny.

Metal
All of it

>>73131614
>>73131688
>>73131709
wut

>>73131706
It's not a bait at all zappa fan
As this guy says >>73131645 it's not bad, it's that poseurs always claim 'it's soooooo experimental' and brag off about it as if it makes them special that they listen to it even though its pretty popular anyway and doesn't at all make them any different

>>73131730
First time I heard gumbo variations was on a Mexican radio station that play stuff like Eurodance, hi NRG, whatever fatboy slim plays, disco, and rock. Kind of took me by surprise

>>73131770
And I kind of bragged about that song for a while

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>>73131645
Good explanation

>>73131614
>>73131688
These

>>73131709
Nah

Pic Related desu

>>73131730
that makes sense buddy.

>>73131730
But that album isn't inaccessible at all, hence my objection. You could've chosen Uncle Meat.

Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, DNA, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Haruomi Hosono, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Frances Baskerville, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze, and Kaoru Abe.

>>73131645
this this this

>>73131835
damn son

Sing to God

>>73131688
No

>>73131709
Literally the least poseur genre that exists.

>>73131825
Yeah but poseurs don't usually know uncle meat. They listen to hot rats and think they're all superior and never move past it

>>73131812
>>73131906
>>73131722
"A genre that judges albums' worth on a scale of how masculine they make you appear isn't poser."
Can't wait to see some more "/metal/: ALPHA AS FUCK edition" threads.

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>>73132298
>he took the /meal/ memes seriously
senpai...

Tago Mago

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stale meme
(this is a good chart if you want "experimental" or "weird", which is not to imply "good" or "bad" just "different")

>>73131614
tfw Beefheart wouldn't have been SHIT w/o Zappa

Prime example: This album

>>73132556
this. everyone calling these albums poser core is either really insecure about their taste or they just can't accept that music doesn't have to be pop music made for easy listening

>>73132556
needs more ringo sheena and japanese shit (the most essential poseurcore) in general

also nurse with wound

>>73132811
you sound insecure yourself, see>>73131645

Any albums you don't like.

>>73131614
>>73131688
>>73131709
>>73131812
Please refer poptimists back to Tumblr/Twitter/Instagram or wherever their kind flourishes

>>73132976
>pointing out other's insecurities make me insecure
really made me think

it's impossible to dislike pop music, but why can't you faggots loosen up a little and listen to some interesting music for once in your life instead of spamming this board with non stop boring indie pop and alt rock?

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>>73132556
>Neubauten
Fortunately I listen more Neubauten than that album. It's pretty babby's first post industrial

>>73132556
honestly if i ever met someone in real life that listened to anyone of these bands id shit myself its easy to say that someone on /mu/ is a poser but we live in a world where even nirvana is becoming some sort of forgotten "experimental" band

>>73133130
This. I'd love to meet someone that likes that kind of stuff

>>73131645
>brag ... whilst only knowing essentials
People who know far beyond the essentials still (usually) agree on the essentials. You can pretend that some more obscure Beefheart album was more essential, but then you'd be the poseur, because most of his output is only for completists. Same goes for most artists.

You could listen to every album from that decade and still go, "yeah, that Warhol banana album is probably the one that sticks out the most". Your opinion would be well-informed, but your conclusion is no different than someone who just went straight for the established classics and 'best of' lists (and saved themselves from listening to a bunch of crap). Both would appear as a poseur, because they like an album that was already called essential by enough taste-makers.

I guess that's the heart of it. People call others poseurs because they want to separate themselves from people who took a shortcut to their patrician/refined tastes.

Certain albums will stand out no matter what spin you put on the motives of the listeners. Is agreement a bad thing? In other contexts they call it the 'canon'.

>>73131835
So, anything people heard about from scaruffi? "Weird" music that few people have heard? Albums people pretend to like, even though you like it yourself?

There aren't any tastes that people won't criticize. If you say you love the Beatles and Bowie and Nirvana, you're a dadcore specialist. If you like obscure/bizarre/noise/art rock album, it's because you're trying your hardest to not sound like a Bowie/Beatles/Prince fan.

There was a time not long ago when the White Light White Heat albums of the world were considered the weird and unlistenable albums that people only pretended to like. But I doubt if many here think that way, after having discovered how far others have pushed their music into similar realms. Listen to the weird long enough and it becomes the normal.

(Sorry for the long post. It's an interesting topic.)

>>73133130
>Coltrane, Residents, Beefheart, Sun Ra
these aren't that obscure. Granted, the average person you'll meet at a party probably hasn't heard them but they definitely have a following outside of /mu/ and some of those people even go outside every once in a while.

>>73132811
yes
>>73132924
why care?
>>73133091
gfu, don't get down because some autist (literally, go back and read those threads, it was like fucking Schopenhauer had come back to life to haunt the internet) put it on a chart a year and a half ago to get at /daily/ and /rym/
>>73133130
I know right, who gives a fuck, you've (likely) never met anybody who posts here, what does it matter what kind of music they listen to or why.
I don't know about Nirvanna, but I would say that's true for bands like, say, Flaming Lips, did you know they released an album this year?

>>73131614
Was at a festival last weekend and saw someone in a trout mask replica tee shirt, I told him it was a decent album and he said that he didn't even know it was an album and he only bought it cause he liked the picture

>>73133277
>People who know far beyond the essentials still (usually) agree on the essentials. You can pretend that some more obscure Beefheart album was more essential, but then you'd be the poseur, because most of his output is only for completists. Same goes for most artists.
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>>73131645
NOOOOOOOO STOP ENJOYING THINGS

>>73133355
I couldn't help but notice that you haven't changed any of the words in this copypasta. Can I infer from this that you are the poster of the original comment? If so, you are an inspiration to us all and I would be honored to receive a death threat from you, sir.

>>73132556
how does it not imply it's at least not in some way good?
The ambition involved in trying to do something experimental strikes me as a very a useful quality for any artist.
I suppose they'd have to actually succeed at being unique

>>73133313
I was shocked to find that not a single one of my younger sisters friends knew who nirvana are but the flaming lips are a much better example

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>>73133429
experimental does not equate to quality
exhibit one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIMSbKU2oZM (anyone that actually likes this is a fucking idiot, it's a fucking meme designed to clear a record contract).
exhibit two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br5tyuEUBWE
exhibit three: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjHSAcwtNnniw7mSjHe8SLfScPINMH8ej
exhibit four (from the chart this time):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpcwA2fJkAw&t=2033s (search your feelings, you know it to be true)