Classical Music Recommendation Thread

Paganini's Caprice no. 24... This guy, in my opinion, was METAL before metal. He can play the violin so well that it sounds like a feverish energy.

>>73064528
>inb4 how do I into classical
>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes recordings of music by Bach, Mozart and others
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix
https://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #7. Too lazy to write up a description for this, but it has a little of everything
https://mega.nz/#F!pWR0zABY!xCwF1rEfXiyEy5HuhTDP0Q
>General Folder #8. The anon who made this loves the yellow piss of DG on his face. Also there's some other stuff in here.
https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy. There is an accompanying chart, available on request.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw

>>73064528
Just listen to Fünf Orchesterstücke, Op. 16 by Schönberg and don't listen to anything else ever agian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7l5OwgjwVM

>>73064528
if you like harsh stuff look up stravinsky's rite of spring

>>73064859
>rite of spring
>harsh

>>73064528
Best lully opera?

I guess this gets to be /classical/ since we are apparently unable to keep them bumped
>tfw in opera rehearsals all day for the next 3 weeks so can't spend my time bumping the threads
>>73065134
Armide is pretty good.

>tfw no recorded production of Un Re in ascolta

>>73064944
wow, poor

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO0HESdbzzs

>>73065913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnfLmstqHQA&t=986s
This duet...

>>73065134
Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme

Armide

Atys

Acis et Galatea

Bellerophon

Ballet des Artes

I love Wagner's overtures and preludes. When the opera singing starts, I am no longer singing. I don't know anything about classical music but I also have no interest in solo tinkling piano. I like Wagner because of the bigness and the seamlessness of his music. Maybe it is violin. Something about it is organic. It's annoying though since most of his stuff is opera.

Anyone know anything similar to what I am attempting to describe.

>>73064611
>>73064944
>>73064576
>>73064790

Thanks, will check your suggestions out once I have more time!

>>73066454
maybe listen to rachmaninoff's 2nd symphony

>>73066454
Try Bruckner's symphonies and the tone poems of Liszt and Richard Strauss.

>>73066454
>I am no longer singing.
I am no longer interested*

>>73066607
>>73067031
Thanks yall

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God, why was he so ugly? Yuck.

>>73067468
Because he was beautiful inside. No wait, he literally compared himself to Nero and performing musicians to insects. Great composer though.

>>73067031
hi ungeheuer

Creator of folder 8 here. Hoping everyone has found something they like, whoever has decided to download from it. Cheers.

>>73067901
Hi. How are you?

>>73064859
If your suggesting Stravinsky also look up the Stravinsky conducts Stravinsky stuff. Lots of good material but I love

>Symphony of Psalms
>Ebony Concerto
>Orchestra Variations (Aldous Huxley in Memoriam)
>Symphony in C
>Firebird
>Petrushka (Suite)
>Circus Polka

really anything by the guy

But Beethoven's 7th symphony is his best and Dvorak's New World Symphony is awesome too.

>>73064528
Petzold

Bela Bartok

>>73068042
Th 8th is much better, but only a few conductors know how to pull it off: Scherchen, Leibowitz, de Sabata and Immerseel.

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>>73068190
Bartok a shit
Janacek stronk

Mood: https://youtu.be/ZCRz2UdN0fs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azRoM3IRgn0

>>73068736
The eerie march has always struck me as proto-Mahlerian.

when is Beethoven gonna drop the new album? the last one was fire

I like Die Zauberflöte and just watched a DVD of Il Barbiere di Siviglia, but I'm having a hard time enjoying anything that I can't harmonically analyze on the fly meaning anything but classical-era piano sonatas. What can I do to fill in the gaps?

>>73068978
Learn Neo-Riemannian theory and listen to John Adams

Who composed the best piano trios?

>>73069075
Ravel

Favorite 20th/21th century composer?

I'd have to go with Ligeti.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiph7y5KzWE

>>73069075
Mozart, Brahms, Beethoven, Schubert. In that order.

>>73069107
Favorite living ones: Saariaho, Haas, Eröd, Cerha, Reed Thomas

>>73069107
Bernstein

Petzold

>>73069475
What about him? Do you have any favorite pieces by him, or is this just a meme?

Favorite composers pre-Bach?

>>73069670
William Byrd, Orlande de Lassus, Thomas Tallis, John Dunstable, Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina

If you get a chance take a music history class I think it'd benefit you

>>73069556
Petzold

>>73069556
The Best of Bach by Petzold

>>73069670
Perotin, Machaut, Ockeghem, Obrecht, Josquin, Gesualdo, Victoria, Frescobaldi, Monteverdi, Schütz, Buxtehude, Schein, Purcell, Gibbons, Sweelinck, Corelli, Biber, Lully

what does /classical/ think of Andreas Scholl?
I love every song in this collection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9nNr-dfOak

Other countertenors/singers you enjoy relevant to /classical/?

Do you prefer Jaroussky or Scholl?

>>73069919
Hey SDF, how was the academic year/Trump's America?

>>73070455
Pretty rough, first major depressive episode in a long while, but my institute likes and supports me. The last couple of days have been very good: I've conquered my writer's block and my crush requited my feelings. Now I might need to parse tfw qt 3.14 Asian Marxist memequeen trap gf.

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>>73070569
Sounds good. What have you been listening to? I've been digging through recordings of Liszt's pupils, will anyone ever be more GOAT than Rosenthal?

>>73069919
>no Palestrina, Morales, Taverner, Lassus or Tallis

>>73071417
Sorry for having different favorites from you

>>73065134
Bourgeois Gentilhomme

>>73070684
Lots of Bach cantatas (Harnoncourt/Leonhardt), Edwin Fischer playing Mozart and Nicki Minaj.

I've also started introducing my professors to Desormiere, Scherchen and Leibowitz.

>>73066454
Liszt - Les Preludes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgpS7B9OkU0

Theorem: All the best 19th century operas are about cucking

Proof: The Ring and Pelleas et Melisande

>>73069107
Weill

>>73070136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7CNQ7jTNJ4

Zeger Vandersteene

>>73071543
No, the best are about females getting cucked.

Proof: Norma

>>73071514
>Desormiere
Does he have much recorded besides his GOAT Pelleas et Melisande?
desu I haven't even been listening to much music recently, I've started trying to get more into literature. Currently reading the Iliad and Brave New World.

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>>73071884
I also meant to add, what has /classical/ been reading?

>>73071884
Quite a bit. A GOAT La Mer, early Boulez and some other stuff.

I've mostly been reading for classes - lot's of anthropology lateley. But I have plans to continue reading and excerpting the Phenomenology of Spirit this summer.

>>73071922
I'm also a certified French reader as of this quarter so I'll buy some Rousseau and Voltaire to stay fit/get better.

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I think I've only shitposted so far ITT so I'll shill some William Grant Still. Neat composer, hopefully he'll be properly revived and get some good recordings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OXmKehGDmE
>tfw no full recording of Stokowski conducting this symphony
>>73072179
I wonder if Beckett is better in French, I'm a victim of American public education so I can't speak another language worth shit, nor do I have a decent understanding of basic works of the canon.

>>73071574
This is a great version of Carmina Burana!

>>73069107
Pärt made some beautiful compositions

>>73070684
>no recordings of prime d'Albert

>>73071922
>Stuff by Rosen
his book on piano and his book on Schoenberg
>A book about Renaissance music.
just a general overview, but it was pretty enjoyable to read, apart from the fact that I can't find recordings of a lot of the pieces it referenced
A book about musica ficta
A book about Italian opera singers through the
ages
Ezra Pound's collected writings about music
(mostly concert reviews)
Butt's "Playing with History" (consideration of the history/theory behind HIP)
Fischer-Dieskau's book about the relationship between Nietzsche and Wagner

Non-musical reading:
Mann's novellas/short stories
Re-reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra

/classical/, please throw in my face best east european/russian shite.

>>73073841
shostakovich symphonies 7, 8, and 10

>>73069670
Agricola
Browne
Brumel
Busnois
Byrd
Carver
Crecquillon
Dufay
Dunstaple
Eccard
Gibbons
Gombert
Guerrero
Hassler
Isaac
Josquin
Lassus
Lawes (William)
Lobo (Alonso)
Lobo (Duarte)
Morales
Obrecht
Ockeghem
Othmayr
Parsons
Power
Praetorius (Michael)
de Rore
de la Rue
Sheppard
Striggio
Tallis
Victoria
Walther
White
Willaert

>>73073841
>best
>shite

can't really take your request seriously when you're asking for the best of the worst.

>>73074238
read as
>best pieces

Stravinsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_590K7_Dtu0

I'v recently been getting into the works of Satie

>>73070569
>tfw no asian trap gf
for once i wish i was you

>>73076090
This is an accomplishment?

>>73076569
no

I can't get into Webern, how do I be more patrician? I'm still reading Harmony and Voice Leading so I probably won't be learning much atonal theory anytime soon.

>>73076815

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkT-3Yh22PE

>>73073841
Prokofiev - Alexander Nevsky, Lieutenant Kijé
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFRTsfBFpSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1scluzlPz0
Tchaikovsky - The Seasons, Swan Lake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0izjJYHuiy4
Rimsky Korsakov - Scheherazade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQNymNaTr-Y
Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN2j-5ZB3ZQ
Shostakovich - Symphonies No. 8 and 15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOoY-_5atwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNh6WWEYnBU
Arensky - Piano Concerto in F minor op. 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR2kRY5eFAY
Rachmaninoff - Pianoconcerto No. 2 op.18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGOihjqO9w
Scriabin - Preludes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZT5jmL6b0E

>>73070569
>Memequeen trap
Disgusting, lnyd. I expected better. Of course, the Marxism is also disgusting, but I expected that from a degenerate academic.

>>73071514
Did you also re-evaluate the Harnoncourt cycle after his death? I was always a bit dismissive of it, but wrongly so, I think. It's a lot better than its reputation.

>>73071636
Well, technically the Ring is about a female getting cucked.

She gets cucked so hard that she burns everyone alive.

>>73078215
I did write out a response about why cucking isn't the central plot point of the Ring, but in the process of writing it out I realised that many things can be tied back to Fricka getting angry that Wotan cucked her. And whilst there is some slight anti-cuckery (like Alberich being a sort of MGTOW stand-in) it doesn't seem to balance it out.
But anyway, cucking is a fairly central plot point of a huge chunk of literature/theatre/opera, so it shouldn't be that surprising.

Alright /classical/, what is the best individual piece by each of the following composers:

>Bach
>Mozart
>Beethoven

>>73064528
I'm looking for some Chopin. I know some of his pieces and enjoy them, but haven't heard too much. What should I check out?

>>73068245
Nothing in common between both composers, m8.

Janacek is amazing in his own right tho, but Bartók is THE composer of the 20th century.

>>73071565
This, Weill was a fucking genius ;_____;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g59QANVrC44

>>73076569
>>73076569
It is. I know several plebs who dislike Satie.

To me, his real masterworks are his Nocturnes.

Here, have a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watchv=OGR9LiTdxuA

Incredibly nostalgic pieces.

>>73079078
The Preludes are a great starting point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGR9LiTdxuA

Then you can move to the etudes, waltzes and nocturnes.

Finally, you can enjoy the fucking ballades, including THE magnus opus, Ballade No. 4 in F minor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tmQSWuYwrI

Why is there no /classical/ general anymore?

>>73079273
It always comes back.

>>73078842

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkT-3Yh22PE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkT-3Yh22PE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkT-3Yh22PE

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I like Wagner are some other good degenerate music to listen too? I'm getting into Hans Pfitzner.

>>73079699
His opera Palestrina is great. Not sure the connection but perhaps Florent Schmitt's Seventh Seal or Karol Szymanowski's King Roger

What's the best leitmotif in Tristan? I think when "Tristan's Honour" first comes in… I think its first appearance is when Tristan first comes out to meet Isolde in act 1. Obviously everything related to the prelude…

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL78TsyiiZjhGGJhndz_P-8EbshbYcFDxB

So is this the makeshift /classical/ general for now?
Posting some

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>>73080180
>posting some
Gesualdo, that is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyGRjIZjJE

fun fact: this piece played for a few seconds in a Sopranos episode and I added that to wikipedia and it's still up there years later. Still to this day, it's my biggest achievement.

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Remember comrade

>>73080389
>tfw have to buy into the capitalist hegemony to fund your creative musical pursuits

>>73080266
which episode?

Finally set aside the requisite four hours to watch Visconti's 'Ludwig', will report back on how it is.

>>73070569
>queen
>gf
>trap
If it has a dick, it's a male. Didn't know you were a fag; congratulations on your fuccboi.

Who composed the best nocturne?

>>73079208
Any albums of recorded works I should check out. Ideally I'd like something I can add to my library.

>>73081248
Chopin of course

>>73080918
Last of season 1 I believe.

>>73081248
Faure

>>73081248
my diary desu

>>73081068
>implying I haven't fucked dudes before
The dick only makes it better.

>>73078215
Harnoncourt's portion of it has nice swing to it and I actually like the rustic brass now.

>>73082736
>I actually like the rustic brass now.
I think it was Taruskin that said that Harnoncourt's Cantatas were ugly in all the right ways.

In particular I think the (exaggerated?) dynamics of the recordings add a lot to the overall effect. Suzuki's set is nice and smooth, but I must admit I find it wanting in 'punch' after hearing a few of the Harnoncourt selections.

>>73082834
yeah it was Taruskin, saying that Bach's music shouldn't be sanitised to be in line with some Enlightenment ideal but instead focusing on the cantatas as Bach's presentation of Christianity in a more "severe" form, designed to be a little bit more shock and awe than pretty tunes

Glad all these recent reissues have been nice enough to include the original LP artwork in them, because 9 times out of 10 they look way better than the lazy reissue artwork that they sometimes do

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I am looking for the (recorded in) 1958 recording of karajan with the berlin philharmonic, performing from the new world and The Moldau. I believe it's only available on vinyl, but maybe someone has a download to it? If anyone has a download of it, preferably in flac, I would appreciate it. I will upload it to folder 8 if I receive it, but I would also like to listen to it for myself.

>>73083818
literally every Karajan recording ever has been reissued 50 times over at this point, so look harder

it's probably in one of those all-in-one boxsets on rutracker

>>73083966
I just checked the rutracker torrent of the complete karajan volume 1 on EMI. It only has one of the recordings, with 8 and 9 dvorak symphony. It does not say the orchestra.

I curse the faggot that told me to listen to Melchior in Siegfried. Now everytime I listen to another version of the piece, I sit there thinking how nice it would be if Melchior were singing it.

But the sound quality on his recordings suck and the performance is cut. Suffering.

Messiaen is unironically good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7QI8Kj1t40&t=441s

>>73084368
sure does suck lad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M9FKp89kj8

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>>73064528
what does /classical/ think of Yngwie Malmsteen?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jdwjb9BUdk

Petzold

>>73081248
Petzold

>>73082703
nice

Pezel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvajhAM-YPE

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Scriabin's Symphony no.2 is one the best I've heard. A true unfolding cosmology, no mere transient sentimentality. And yet still very human.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp9FGDD6eQg

It has such a tangible emotional narrative, equivalent to reading a book or watching a film. It's an intense experience. I also dig all composer who were heavy into occult. He was surely a mystic with access to the Vedic spheres. Incredibly underappreciated, though I think that's how the truly great works ought to be.

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>>73087339

>>73087080
bad scale wankery. Tasteless.
Jason Becker is the superior wank guitarist. At least he has polyphony sometimes.

>>73078842
Goldberg Variations
Marriage of Figaro
5th Symphony

>>73079078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7mntyrW3HU

This is my favourite piece by him

>>73085784
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeSVu1zbF94

>>73078472
>But anyway, cucking is a fairly central plot point of a huge chunk of literature/theatre/opera, so it shouldn't be that surprising.
True. Look at the Oresteia, with Clytemnestra cucking Agememnon n shit.
Odysseus' frau acted like she didn't want all the suitors but she really did. And they were swarthy too. Disgusting.

>>73089349
Hast thou learnt nothing from Bloom's exasperatorial self-acceptance of sexual congress with one's perceived possessed wedded other and her wanton appetites? That we should base our ability to enjoy life on such fleeting feminine fancies is no sign of a true man.

>>73082909
sauce?

>>73067468
wtf? hes a cutie

>>73089388
no joke I've masturbated multiple times (about 4 or 5) to the last section of Ulysses. Especially when she's talking about cocks. And the young "educated" man. But he based most of her character off of his wife, who was butt ugly. Like Lincoln's wife ugly.

Why are Purcell and Monteverdi the best composers of all time?

>>73087534
redpill me on the SQ (scriabin question)
asking 4 a frendz

(((Norman Lebrecht)))

>>73089971
>Appalled at antisemitic slurs on @Emmabarnett after @jeremycorbyn interview. Appalled, but not surprised.
from (((Normal Leeeeeeeeebrecht)))
O Y V E Y
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>>73090029

There's nothing wrong with the music.

It's the culture that's rotten. These """critics""" really should burn.

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>>73090063

Oy vey goyim, let me tell you who's actually responsible!

Aren't you happy I made it so clear? ;^DDD

>>73087080
Absolutely awful. He writes easily the worst music that could be considered classical that I have ever heard. He has all the composition skill of a freshman, a musical taste worse than Dragonforce, and the guitar playing skill of a monkey with lots of time on his hands. I'm not even kidding with the last part. He isn't a very good guitar playing. He can't play anything without having a million dead notes everywhere, his tone is awful, he can't stay in time and he hides his terrible technique behind his distortion.

>>73089441
Somewhere in Text and Act. Here's a stand-alone article that says something similar
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/27/arts/recordings-view-facing-up-finally-to-bach-s-dark-vision.html?pagewanted=all

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My personal favorites are from the Baroque and Romantic eras. Composers such as Purcell, Caccini, Marini, Dvorak, Schubert and Schumann.

Baroque if you want more of a raw, more embellished feel to things.
Romantic if you want something that experiments a little.

Debussy and satie are my go to guys if i want some comfy shit
Notjing tops girl with the flaxen hair and gymnopedie no.1

>>73090152

OF COURSE it wasn't faggot academics and critics that pushed the death of melody and harmony upon the audience and built up the HIPster meme and dictated rigid rules for concerts and recitals that made them about as fun as eating Icelandic food.

Oh no, anything but that!

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This thread is now blessed with Gergiev.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQjUL6OANzs

>>73092376
>no, no! do it like this!
>starts flailing around while barely conducting and groaning

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>>73090829
>Baroque and Romantic
>Schubert and Schumann

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Joyful sounding organ music anyone pls

>>73092485
Schubert is my favorite baroque composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEw-JOnNbt8

>>73092514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XarAdHPg9BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcRyXfs0K7U

>>73091506
No, you're right, it wasn't academics at all. The 'death' of melody and harmony was mostly due to composers themselves moving past that and leaving it to popular music and people like Zimmer or Williams to do it better. The HIPster meme was granted due to academia studying and not just repeating what last years maestro did but it wouldn't be the standard that everyone follows now without public preference for HIP. Concert rules are freer than they've been since the 19th century, fuck knows why you think academia has any say in that. You shouldn't excite yourself like this, you silly young fogy, you might spill your cocoa.

>>73092635
Thanks <3

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>>73083818
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1874221

>>73092638
I hope you're using scare-quotes around "death" because you're very aware that the accusations against the SVS (and a lot of serialist music following it) that their music has no care for harmony or melody is incredibly stupid?

>>73092664
>https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1874221
Great, great anon! I thank you!

>>73092638
>leaving it to popular music and people like Zimmer or Williams to do it better.

>tfw Zimmer and Williams are better than all other tonal composers

>>73092664
Wait a second, this is the one recording in 1976, not the one recorded in 1958.

>>73093354
There are no "tonal" composers. Tonality as a living, breathing, functional musical framework is restricted to hobbyist pastiche and student exercises. Whether this is a good or bad thing depends on your point of view. I think now that composers are quite literally free to do whatever they want, we're in a better place than we were in the '50s when schools and their respective dogmas were arbiters of what was new and good.

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFIu0q3icYU

>>73092475
Typical Russian musician.

I know this isn't completely related to classical music but is there any music that makes use of atonal composing techniques and sounds somewhat catchy? Or you know, any atonal passages in popular songs. I'm curious if atonality ever appears in unfamiliar places.

>>73094270
>There are no "tonal" composers
you are wrong. learn more about contemporary composers.

Tonality never died, it just went out of fashion in academic circles. Now its coming back into fashion. Some composers utilize a 'post tonal' style where they subvert atonal ideas with tonal ones.

We've had 50 years of serialism and atonality, people are getting over it and realizing the human body is attuned to the natural harmonic series - which implies regular tonality.

You can play a 10 minute atonal piece with 1 'wrong' note and no one will notice. But you can play a 3 hour tonal piece with 1 wrong note and everyone will notice.

>>73094376
Atonality is inherently non-catchy.

The closest you're going to get to atonality with popular music is Blotted Science - The Machinations of Dementia, which makes use of 12-tone rows.

>>73094376
Not sure if I understand your question fully, but you can find a lot of that in more experimental artists these days.

>>73065320
What kind of opera person are you? Singer? If so, what fach?

>>73094935
Any contemporary tonal composer recommendations?

>>73069107
>20-21st century composers
>being of value as even just humans
They were and are the death of music. After all, nowadays, who cares if you listen?

>>73069107
Two Steps From Hell

>>73095266
not him, but Arvo Pärt is an obvious suggestion.

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>>73084368
Melchior was probably one of the ~three most powerful and capable tenors of all time. He kinda did the same thing to my listening as he did to yours - except, I don't take it as a negative thing.

Have you heard his Gotterdammerung recording? His high C in the third act is the stuff of legends; almost as intense as Bonisolli going nuts on the C in Turandot. That's not to say that Bonisolli is in or anywhere near the top three tenors, though.

You know what, I'm going to provide references for these things. Here's Melchior's ridiculous C:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeU8Pm9iyCs

And here's Franco Bonisolli's life-legend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4w6ygRGqCA

>>73095799
The Hopf one, lmao

>>73095896
he just wanted to be a tenor man ;_;

>>73095799
Out of curiosity, what's your top 10 heldentenors?

>>73071417
>no Hildegard
what a hipster

>>73081068
what bothers you about this
if someone transitions but still uses their assigned-at-birth pronouns, how would you feel about that?

>>73096514
>transitions
>still has a dick
Hmmm

>>73096390
Hildegard isn't that good.

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>>73096000
I think that depends on how we define the word. If I was being a broad dipshit, I might say names like Del Monaco or Bergonzi. If I was trying to be extremely true to the definition of heldentenor whereupon its certain qualities are exceedingly rare, I don't think that I would be able to make a top 10 list.
I'll give you a top 3 list for that, though. I'm absolutely certain that at least one of these persons you will not have heard of: César Vezzani, Lauritz Melchior, Fritz Uhl. Honourable mention goes to Windgassen there, I think. Vezzani is bullshit OP, though; you will *never* hear a tenor with a blacker timbre.

Might as well throw in an exemplifier for each, so here we go:
Melchior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvDraXJjyfI
Uhl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82emsMixdFA
Vezzani: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUcvd8gkHbg

>>73096717
really unfortunate that the Swarowsky was recorded with tin cans and shoe string. lots of underrated singers on that one, but sometimes the orchestra sounds like it's submerged underwater...

>>73096702
>refuses to answer the question
hmmmmm

>>73096716
what a hipster

>>73064528
Trilogy Suite Op: 5
kek

Girls, I'm not sure where to go from here. I feel like I already know the most popular classical musicians very well. I wish that I could find some lesser known classical composers. I just don't know how to do this, besides occasionally stumbling onto them. Where should I go if I want to find lesser known composers?

>>73096949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQFRLvhS4N4

>>73096949
Just dig deeper bruv

>>73096949
YouTube recommendations and I'm not even memeing. Channels that upload videos with score usually also have obscure composers
Start here: https://www.youtube.com/user/fyrexianoff/videos

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>tfw the English commonwealth stopped English opera from taking off.

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>>73096764
I think I've got two physical copies of the Swarowsky Gotterdammerung; one from an elite music shop in London, and one from the Met (from the "Wagner at the Met" box). I'm fairly certain that at least one of them has been remastered to sound better than the conventional uploads sound. I'd have to go through my crap to check, and I'm not really willing to do that. You should look into the Wagner at the Met set by yourself, to see if it's been remastered. I have extremely foggy memory, but I seem to recall it being sold to me under that stipulation.

>>73097110
There ought to be a "composers' index" akin to Francois Nouvion's "tenors' index". Can you even imagine just how useful that would be for anyone and everyone?

>>73097239
>and one from the Met (from the "Wagner at the Met" box)
that would be rather strange, since i have no idea why the Swarowsky would be included on there considering it wasn't a Met performance. i'm guessing you misspoke here, since the Gotterdammerung on that set is the Bodanzky with Melchior and what not (god awful sound)

i do have the Profil remastering of the Swarowsky, and it sounds just as bad as all the other issues unfortunately.

>>73097308
Yeah, you're right; it's the Bodanzky. Oh, well.

>>73064611
Underrated post ty anon

>>73094935
Stravinsky's Neoclassicism was basically using tonality ironically until he decided to go the 12-tone route.
>>73094959
not necessarily "inherently"; that's a fairly loaded statement.
>>73095799
Svanholm's C is slightly more impressive than Melchior's. But Melchior is great. Always slightly underwhelmed by Lorenz, even though he's pretty great elsewhere.

>>73096717
>honourable mention to Windgassen
hmmmmmmm

>>73098585
>Always slightly underwhelmed by Lorenz, even though he's pretty great elsewhere.
Yeah, Max is more about his astonishing diction and understanding of the text than his technical ability. Though Max could be a technical autocrat just like Melchior was, as is evidenced by Max's earlier recordings. They did share the same teacher (Ernst Grenzebach) so I suppose it's no surprise that their techniques ended up being similar.

Interestingly enough, I recall Max's high C being more impressive in his two 50s recordings, when he was out of his prime. He holds it pretty long and hard, albeit with a bit of wobble iirc.

>>73098614
What are you getting at, boy? That Windgassen could outdo someone like Uhl?

>>73098786
I suspect he's poking fun at the fact that Windgassen really stretches the definition of a heldentenor.

>>73098820
Well, not really any more than Lauri-Volpi or Del Monaco or even Di Stefano.

>>73081248
Satie.

>>73098921
I agree, and I do like Windgassen, but he does admittedly sound too leathery for the role at times, especially from the late 50s and onwards.

It's fine in the early 50s recordings, though.

>>73097110
There's no way I'm digging through all those videos to find an artist I want to download albums from.

why was Mozart so much better than Beethoven??

>>73100036
Mozart was a terrible composer who wrote everything to sound happy.

>>73100626
That's an excellent impression of a plebeian, anon. Well done.

>>73100626
are you retarded lmao

>>73100712
>>73100750
Even though that guy sounded retarded I see his point. Major scales are soul-crushingly boring

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>>73100626
>happiness is a bad thing

>>73100923
go listen to jazz

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>composers who only write symphonies

>>73101989
you know he has like 70 lieder, right

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>>73067468
don't think so senpai

>>73068042
Oddly enough he's not a very good interpreter of his own work

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>>73100939
It's not that it's a bad thing. Sometimes I like happy music if it's cute or something. For some reason I am just a generally unhappy person, and I don't jive well with music that just exudes happiness (unless it's cute music). I generally prefer music which is more intense, or somber. Pic related is my top 100.

>>73097145
There's Benjamin Britten and he's all you need.

>>73103171
Purcell is way better than Britten desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rJTnQhKmOE

All fugues sound the same

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Was Mendelssohn the first transsexual composer?

>>73090684
thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5lRq0IcDzw

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Rate my classical. I am aware how entry level I am. Got these from the mega folders. Any glaring omissions ?

>>73094280
>>73094280
Is it only HIPster if you larp like you're an aristocrat in the 17th-18th c., costume, wig, n all?

>>73094376
many video game themes. the main theme from Mario I believe, though I may be wrong on that. If not the main one perhaps the other songs, like the cave song. the Halloween theme.

>>73064528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKy7jfCQXb0

related--->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KHS8g3ECE&t=1s

>>73104633
that's the point

>>73095284
>After all, nowadays, who cares if you listen?
What did he mean by that?

>>73105412
Pretty sure that's just a tree dude

>>73095355
This is some good stuff. Reminds me of the Requiem for a Dream theme. Makes me want to throw some antifa out of a helicopter.

>>73105701
I couldn't get a good painted portrait . It triggers my tism every day. But its one whole work so it fits

>>73105686
it's a reference to a mistitled milton babbitt article (originally the composer as specialist) where he argues that contemporary music is basically like theoretical physics in that it is really understood by a small handful of listeners rather than the general public

>>73105734
It's like a Talmudic study group centered around John Zorn, Steve Reich, Phillip Glass, Schoenberg, Ligeti, Morton Feldman, and other Jews.

>>73104853
No. Petzel wuz

>>73102089
whoa dude. It's freaky how much our tastes align from classical to non-classical. prob because we like experimental (within limits) and depressing tunes

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>tfw she'll never obliterate your anus with her voice alone

what does /classical/ think of Xiannakis?
Is he the greatest composer of the last 200 years, or am I a big silly man?

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>>73105727
you definitely have autism if you think a picture of a tree is closer in kind to a number of portraits

>>73106271
porcelain face, she breaks
breaks your ane',
get the salsa, back door
grassroots poopshoot
shoot the silly whore

what does /classical/ think of THIS:

(vid related)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vvgx0lwio0

what does /classical/ think of


muh
diq

>>73105521
hail hortler

moar marches plz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfhyUn_ezqw

>>73106303
It's a nice tree

stravinsky is kind of like a tree you know

>>73106576
Trees are Kabbalic. S-dawg was an Orthodocks nig-o. He shunned the heeb. Get real lil fagkid.

Someone explain El Contrabandista to me

>>73090292
Guitarist for 20 years here. Thank you. His alternate picking is nice, but he hasnt expanded his technique, adjusted, or even bothered experimenting with other styles. Just rip off classical meme-progressions, and when he doesnt know what to play he resorts to harmonic minor wank over an endless minor cadential tonic-dominant for about 6 minutes.

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>>73106538
srsly pham

>>73089821
>Purcell
What

Also what to the rest of your post

>>73106836
I like the tree better. He's so gloomy

>>73106424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPV9tfJNOvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gx9ayXdKRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=425c77Btq_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mk7SUehUYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo6eVtLWPXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjNThIQDaAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8eW0ZdurE

>>73105412
>>73105701
i dont know why im laughing so hard

>>73106981
thanks man

>>73106779
don't forget beating niggers up on airplanes

>>73106886
it was a reference to another comment about the main character from Ulysses which in turn was about cucking in literature, etc. I'm not sure what part you're "what"-ing to.

>Purcell
>What
>Yes, Purcell GOAT. Prove me wrong. Now.

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>>73106973
Do you like me now anonkun?

>>73107686
he b lookin' like dat six flags ass nigga mug

shuh-shuh-shuh-sheeeeeeee-eee-eee-eeeeeit

>Bartók divorced his then wife Márta Ziegler (1893-1967)[1] in June 1923. He had a distinct attraction to girls and women considerably younger than himself. Márta was aged only 16 when he married her in 1909, when he was 28.

is he /ourguy/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg0QYNocWhM

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>>73107829
broke - not /ourguy/
woke - sort of /ourguy/
sloke - ok, /ourguy/ n all, but still...
bartok - definitely /ourguy/ 1488

>>73108475
kill yourself

>>73108515
t. Chaim Leibowitz

gas yourself faggot. better yet, morph into a lampshade.

>>73106762
It's originally from a collection of songs by Schumann which are settings of Spanish poems translated into German. The piano part is pretty difficult and someone decided to transcribe the piece for piano alone to make it something of a showpiece

>>73107829
Nah Bruckner is

>>73106424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVmflCxrNxA

>>73108515
Oy Vey

>>73108647
yes!

redpill me on C P E BACH

wuz he a total genius

>>73069075
Mendelssohn

>>73078842
Art of Fugue
Haydn Quartets
Quartet No.13

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RIP Jiří Bělohlávek.
His Martinů will always be top tier - I haven't heard a better performance of Symphony No. 1 than pic related.

I thoroughly enjoy rach concerto 3 but not 2, why is this?

>>73110730
(Anecdotally, from speaking to pianists and reading books by pianists) 3 provides an interesting technical challenge in addition to the mushy Rach shit so there is at least something redeeming.

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>>73110446
Well shit, he did some good stuff such as his Smetena and Suk. RIP

>>73110873
Yeah I found 2 just blended into the same shit whereas 3 has very distinct themes.

Best classical music to listen to whilst working out?

>>73111571
wagner or thoven
that aryan strenfff

>>73111652
Anything particular?

>>73111571
philip glass - akhnaten

>>73083818
>I am looking for the (recorded in) 1958 recording of karajan with the berlin philharmonic, performing from the new world and The Moldau. I believe it's only available on vinyl, but maybe someone has a download to it? If anyone has a download of it, preferably in flac, I would appreciate it. I will upload it to folder 8 if I receive it, but I would also like to listen to it for myself.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY9dWhvEttM

hm

>>73071543
It truly was not a different time

>>73104853
>ywn know how his boipucci was

I hate that fucking kike, but not knowing this feel is the worse

post your best march /mu/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzAaq9A9_zU

(inb4 nanking 1937 victory march)

>>73116206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ7hXMLxGc

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Can someone please share a mega link with Shostakovich's 24 preludes and fugues? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

>>73116206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JOvzz7Usqs

>>73116549
how can you bring a piano while marching?

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Opinions on this qt?

Analysis of Deuxième Sonate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8giW4XdcV-M

one of his own compisitions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZMsWfNkbP4

Analysis of one of his own compositions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7WUb2_WZlI

mem sav

MEM SAV

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my husbando

Uploading new albums to folder 8

Valery Gergiev - stravinsky Rite of spring
valery gergiev - stravinsky firebird
george solti - dvorak from the new world
fricsay - dvorak from the new world
takacs quartet - bartok late string quartets
juilliard string quartet - bela bartok string quartets
arnold schoenberg - verklarte nacht, pelleas und melisande (berliner philharmoniker, karajan)
richard strauss - Vier letzte Lieder (Orchestre symphonique de la Radio de Berlin; George Szell; Elisabeth Schwarzkopf)

>>73119857
Maurice Ravel; London Symphony Orchestra; Claudio Abbado - complete orchestra works
Prokofiev - The Piano Concertos (Ashkenazy, Previn, LSO)

>>73119874
Brahms, Schumann - Hollywood String Quartet, Victor Aller

>>73119857
>>73119874
>>73119909
cool

>>73119857
>takacs quartet - bartok late string quartets
I'm sorry, I meant beethoven late string quartets.
>>73119970
You're welcome.

I just want a good flac a tad bit more fast paced (like rahbari's performance) version
of Beethoven's 9th symphony.
This is the best in terms of pace i could find that has the whole symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wZcbHX40jw.

Listened to the ones inside the general folders and they're either poorly mastered, recorded
or very slow paced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnfLmstqHQA&t=939s
This is perfection, especially that duet.

I've recently been listening to a lot of Edward Elgar. Definitely check out his violin sonata

>>73120154
Did you check folder 8? It was a folder which was put up fairly recently. It has fricsay, various furtwangler (a rather well recorded one), and multiple karajan recordings. If you haven't already that is.

>>73119857
What is folder 8?

>>73120276
>>General Folder #8. The anon who made this loves the yellow piss of DG on his face. Also there's some other stuff in here.
It's a few posts down from the top in the list of folders
>General Folder #8. The anon who made this loves the yellow piss of DG on his face. Also there's some other stuff in here.
https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg

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>>73120263
Oh, didn't check that. Thanks.

>>73120309
Ah, thanks.

>>73120331
>>73120325
If you download anything, just make sure to look at the dates. The most recent ones are still uploading, some of them. All the beethoven symphonies were uploaded a while ago.

Gimme that weird shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Zsk55I2Ww

>>73120263
First one i check and i already hear people coughing in the recording.
Seriously who the fuck even bothers uploading live recordings.

>>73120436
nvm next one is dope, holy shit Beethoven - Symphonies (BPO, Karajan, 1977)
has to be the best by far.

>>73120436
Idk. I think the furtwangler one is live. There's two versions of the furtwangler, both live. One is a bit better quality (the blue cover). The others, karajan and fricsay, I don't believe are live recordings, so they shouldn't have coughing. You'd do yourself good to watch a documentary on furtwangler though, and gain an appreciation for what a legendary conductor he was. He has some very power, wild interpretations of beethoven's 9th. It's madness when he performs the final moments of ode to joy.

>>73120436
One day you will understand the true power of the old memes my boy

>>73120476
Intrigued my interest, but are there non live recordings of him?
I'd rather not get hyped up to be stuck with the live ones.

>>73120501
He's recorded many albums, I have mostly listened to his beethoven's 9th and appreciated the documentaries about him. I did listen to his recording of tristan und isolde, which was quite a while ago. It would be worth checking out more recordings from him, but if you're looking for high quality recordings, perhaps not. He was a very early conductor, so a lot of his recordings are probably in rather poor quality, but not all.

stilo nuovo
>>73120619

>>73120626
or dolce stil nuovo even

>>73120657
piu' dolce stil nuovo (with dubs and subject)
>>73120722

Does anyone have a flac download of Furtwängler performing Mozart symphony no 39 and Dvořák symphony no 9 with the berlin philharmonic?

I've been listening to that Claude Abbado complete ravel symphonies all day. It's glorious. Ravel was such an amazing composer.