Whats going on with Katy Perry?

she flipped the fuck out on election night when Trump won and has remained in tantrum mode ever since, but she's like the biggest pop star of the decade so of course she's caught in a creative cul-de-sac, the label wouldn't have it any other way but safe

pop star fatigue

>>73033691
she's 30 and was only popular for looking like the hot girl next door, the zooey deschanel archetype. she either has to try to reinvent herself or it's over.

>>73033691
She's been wearing wigs for years, so I wouldn't be surprised if she had short hair for a long time.
Being a gross nigger loving skank is just the cliche thing for pop stars to do when their career goes south. The "controversy" gets people talking and watching.
That's all this is. It's not that interesting or surprising really.

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>>73033793
>was only popular for looking like the hot girl next door, the zooey deschanel archetype
Had to be more than just that. She tied MJ's record for most No. 1s on an album. People were digging the songs.

>>73033691
She's trying to be intellectual and political with her music but since she doesn't know shit, it hasn't worked. Plus she's had some pretty conflicting opinions on things such as opposing racism but then making fairly racist comments, so she's not even that dedicated to the beliefs she claims to have.

Her normie fans are confused and over her and anyone who knows anything can see she's just a pseudo intellectual trying to be "deep".

So she's going back to regular pop to stay in the spotlight.

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>>73033691
she's hanging around with black people

minaj, migos

obviously she's going down that miley ratchet pussy route

>>73033824
it's because they picture her when they listen to them. she was hot so men thought she wanted fuck them, but not like like an unobtainable model, so white teenage girls (the most important demographic in music) didn't feel intimidated and pictured themselves as her.

She knows her career is dying.

It's the curse of all 30 year old female pop artists, she has already been replaced by a younger version of herself.
>>73033862
>thinking that she decides who gets a feature on one of "her" songs

>>73033891
Who's the new Katy Perry? I honestly don't know who's current in anything anymore.

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>>73033891
Regardless of who's behind it, that pussy is still turning ratchet..

>>73033898
Selena Gomez I guess.

If there isn't one then there will be one is a few months, but female pop music is dying in general so I don't know what's going to happen.

>>73033864
And she dressed quirky but didnt looked like a cum dupmster freak like lady gaga (who aimed at hysterical girls and faggots)

>>73033908
She's 32, it's already been ratched for more than two years

>>73033909
Boy bands might make a comeback but I doubt it. Maybe girl bands?

>>73033898
halsey. we left the basic bitch era of pop music, went to 80s revival era #271, no we are firmly in the thot era.

>>73033928
One Direction was the only Boyband in the last few years and even they died, just like Fifth Haromy. People generally stopped listening to what's popular.

>>73033931
also adding this >>73033909 Selena Gomez is prime thot music material. She's even hispanic.
>>73033928
>Maybe girl bands?
that ended last year

unlike gaga she doesn't have a strong core fanbase and can't perform so she literally has nothing to fall back on

won't be missed

>>73033909
>female pop music is dying in general so I don't know what's going to happen.
Huh?
>>73033928
There two girl pop groups that are pretty big right now.

>>73033931
"tumblr" is the current look of all the hot female pop acts. Halsey and her clones all look, act and sound the same. "alt girl" voice with edm/hiphop inspired beats.

>>73033691
Just as Nicki Minaj was a straight up copy of Katy Perry when her style was fashionable (dressing up quirky and shit) now its the other way arround ("woke-blackexellence-onfleek-trap-blackculture" is now in) and that obviously affects her music. Also female popstars are market products of a giant industry before anything and they need to keep their brand fresh and relevant "reinventing" themselves (some music critic talked about Madonna as "pop fascism" because her music kinda sucked compared to other contemporary singers but her image and persona is what captivated the listeners)

>>73033864
do you always project this much

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Lady Gaga has been the only good mainstream, non-indie female pop artist of the past 10 years.

>>73033953
Female pop music is dying, it's over roasties.

Male Pop, Rock and Rap is on the rise.

>>73033975
All gimmick and all "wow look how weird I am". Take that shit away and her music is the same as any other female pop star of the last 10 years, Katy Perry included.

>>73033953
>tumblr" is the current look of all the hot female pop acts.
sorta. it was starting to go that way, but now it's switched to alt normie thots. that's why justin bieber, the king of thots, can bring any song to the top 10.
>"alt girl" voice with edm/hiphop inspired beats.
that, justin bieber, anything that appeals to their daddy issues and the chainsmokers are what make up thot-core.

Normie music
normie political platitude opinions

>>73033975
She killed her career by trying to cash out on faggots, LOL!

>>73033966
how is recognizing marketing projecting? you think she crafted her own image? there's a reason she went from Christian pop rock to Bon Appetit

>>73034004
True but shes easily made the best music out of all recent pop stars.

>>73034019
her voice gives me a headache. all of the songs i've heard from her last album were annoying. she's at her best when she makes the most soulless shit possible

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>>73033931
>basic bitch era
It's called Slutwave™, you dumb little shit.

>>73034004
she's actually the only pop starlet that could engage an audience with just an instrument and her voice if required... the others around her success level are all utterly fucked if the power goes out.

>>73034004
are you dumb fags are the most loyal fans. no other pop star is gonna sell 200k first week without a top 10 single

>>73034012
>it's because they picture her when they listen to them. she was hot so men thought she wanted fuck them, but not like like an unobtainable model, so white teenage girls (the most important demographic in music) didn't feel intimidated and pictured themselves as her.
this isnt recognizing marketing, its porly written rambling
electro influenced pop sells better than christian rock? who knew fucko

>>73034029
basic bitch era was from post "in the club" era, to 1989 dropping. it was when indie pop/rock could chart and the fault in our stars movie was released

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I've heard Taylor Swift stole a few members of her team.

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>>73034066
No, you dumb little shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwave

>>73034044
it's poorly written, i still think that was what their intentions were with her image. what's your interpretation?

The demon that was possessing Miley Cyrus was exorcised and possessed Katy Perry instead.

>>73034082
>Slutwave is a pejorative applied as if it were a musical genre to female pop music stars which emerged in the late 2000s. Houston Press describes the genre as female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music."
Slutwave started in the 1980s with fucking Madonna.

>>73034082
slutwave is incorporated in the basic bitch era. basic bitch also included the neighborhood, the lumineers, and the arctic monkeys.

>>73034085
reddit reposts

>>73034096
>Madonna
Idiot.
>>73034099
>the neighborhood, the lumineers, and the arctic monkeys
Shut up, you dumb little shit. When your "basic bitch era" gets a wiki you can speak again.

>>73034121
>female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music.
All of that applies to Madonna's entire career, you retard. She's always been a provocateur to cover for her lack of talent.

>>73033975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC8L0QDRqZ4
this song is cute! cute!!

>>73034134
madonna is basically the OG genre and trend vampire

>>73034083
my interpretation is that you arent too far off but spend too much time obsessing over detail to remember the actual music
generic or not she and her team has been following trends well

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I'm just excited we might have a chance to finally see her tits in the near future.

>>73034121
i'm describing a time period not a genre you faggot. call it whatever you want, but i find "basic bitch" accurate because it describes the target audience well, and it's a dated phrase from that era.

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>>73034162
I love Katy so I'm against a full on breakdown, desu.

>>73034159
i just focus on those points to emphasize what their goals were with her image. her image was one of the most geniusly crafted. only thing that comes close in recent times is miley and swift

>>73034134
>which emerged in the late 2000s
You can shut up too, idiot. We're talking about a date specific phenomena in pop culture, not cherry picking examples from earlier time periods that might fit the basic description.
>>73034165
>but i find
You need me to tell you again?
Shut the fuck up, moron.
No one gives a shit about some retarded term you made up because you're stupid.

>>73034032
>are you dumb fags are the most loyal fans.
LOL! No.

Pandering towards gays makes your straight fan abandon which will kill your career no matter what.

Straight people will always make up the majority of the fanbase of all artist that make accessible music and not all gay people like pop music.

And gays aren't loyal at all.

>>73034176
how embarrassing, it's like mileys mom performing we can't stop

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>>73034176
I love Katy too, anon. But I REALLY want to see those fucking things.

>>73033691
JUST

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>tfw Paramore swooped in to save the day for pop as soon as Katy stated going haywire

>>73034004
she build her career on cashing out on faggots duh (and it works because it was grounded on a legit empathy towards LBGT peeps anyway)

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>>73034198
>caring this much about what to name 2011-2014 in pop music
call it whatever you want faggot. call it 2011-2014. it doesn't fucking matter you spastic

>>73034162
>wanna see some saggy veiny +30yo tits
ok dad

>>73034229
She didn't, her first two album weren't blatantly gay oriented and they were successful, that's what build her career. It all went downhill by Born This Way, a very gay oriented album by "mere coincides"

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>>73034240
apologize

>>73034202
Madonna? Cher? Barbara Streisand?

you ok?

>>73034198
>which emerged in the late 2000s
Madonna is proof that it didn't emerge in the late 2000s and that it isn't a date-specific phenomena.

>not cherry picking examples from earlier time periods that might fit the basic description.
Madonna fits the description to a fucking T and is the progenitor of all of the current supposed "slutwave" artists.

Madonna is the original slutwave musical performer.

>>73034202
>>73034312
>Without a single and without marketing, I’m not drawing on hetero males as a core audience. But thank God for the gays! My homos — they stick by me through thick and thin.
Courtney Love said this in a interview like...it's common sense

>>73034378
And where is Courtney Love today? Exactly.

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>generic top 40 plebe music
>supported Hillary Clinton
>made "woke" pop music, alienating half the country, and making anyone who actually knows shit about politics cringe
>made a video acting like a giant slut while surrounded by niggers, lost the pol audience, acting like a giant coal burner whore alienates white men and black women, stop doing this.
>seems kind of desperate, whole slut act was stolen from miley and she doesnt look good with short hair
>is reaching the age whee pop stars get sent to the farm far away where they get to play with the other pop stars of yore and are replaced by a younger, better looking product, i mean pop star


On another note, i feel like female pop music is dying, there is clear trend and rise of male pop music and rappers topping the chart.
EDM guys, rappers, and pop folk faggots like sherran.
There also seems to be room for really awful soft rock like maroon five, and imagine dragons.
Or like 21 pilots.


In conclusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYHSGQhswWE

>>73034238
lol
Then what are you arguing about, retard?
>>73034335
The phenomena is date specific and doesn't include Madonna, hence why you're reduced to describing her as a "progenitor" and admitting to her being separate from said "date specific phenomena". You don't have an argument.

>>73034483
>anyone who actually knows shit about politics
so not you or any other polfags

Marketing executives cottoned on to people not giving a shit about mileys antics anymore so they substituted her out with perry while miley trying to make pop-"country" again .

>>73034488
i was saying that you can't call 2011-2014 pop music in general "slutwave" because most pop at the time wasn't that. you could call the whole era slutwave, and that's retarded so I'm sure you do. i gave my reason for why I personally call it the "basic bitch era" and that has to do with the audience and the time frame. giving these stupid time frames names is the only way to get retards like you to notice cultural trends and shifts in audiences.

>>73034527
You cant be woke if you support clinton, being mainstream woke would have been like being a bernie bro.
Being actually woke would be demanding full communism now

>>73033691
>Shes being very pretentious about her music, calling it "pop with a purpose" and such yet the lyrics to every single after Chained To The Rhythm (which bombed) hasn' not fit that description in the slightest.

Well, yeah. You're surprised this whore's product is saying anything beyond "follow your desire / look at my hot body" ?

>>73034555
>bernie being even the slightest bit "woke"
>Being actually woke would be demanding full communism now
im sure it would be levi

>>73034549
>you can't call 2011-2014 pop music in general "slutwave"
No one did that, you fucking idiot. You just outed yourself as a complete fucking retard.

Now shut the fuck up.

>>73034577
bernie was a socialist, clinton was a neoliberal
on the leftwing scale of wokeness bernie wins

>>73034584
OwO what's this?
>>73034029

>>73034488
>The phenomena is date specific
Except it isn't since Madonna was doing everything these slutwave artists are doing now in the 1980s.

>hence why you're reduced to describing her as a "progenitor" and admitting to her being separate
No, I'm saying she's the progenitor because the she was literally the first fucking slutwave artist. The slutwave artist that all other slutwave artists have followed since the 1980s.

You have no argument. Your position is saying "NUH UH THAT DOESN'T COUNT" when presented with contradictory information.

>>73034607
>implying left wing is woke

The question is when is rhianna going to finally fuck off

>>73034478
courtney love didn't base her career around gays????????? the point is when she goes on tour (despite having nothing to promote) gays are the ones who go to see her. and career wise she's by far the most relevant 90s alt rock girl, she's doing acting shit right now so either way you're wrong

what is there not to understand. good job dodging madonna, cher and babs btw

>>73034610
You tried to make some retarded shit up and I corrected you because you're a retard. Katy Perry is a Slutwave artist.
>>73034616
>Madonna was doing
>was
In other words separated by time. Too bad for you the phenomena is date specific or you'd have an actual argument. Better luck next time, idiot.

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>>73034285

>>73034645
Is Rihanna the only woman that doesnt gonna go low as those degenerates??????????????????

she has nice feet
I have probably sploodged to them several times
that is all that matters

>>73034660
She's not slutwave though.

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>Tay gets a number 2 in 2017
>Katy barely breaks the top 10
Tay wins again baby

>>73034650
>In other words separated by time.
So according to your logic, Miley Cyrus is not slutwave? After all, she was heavy into slutwave activities but since she's not anymore that must mean she's not slutwave and has never been slutwave, right? Just trying to see how many mental hoops you want to jump through here.

Madonna was doing slutwave before slutwave had the name slutwave and she still does slutwave. For almost 35 years she's been slutwave.

>>73034730
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwave
>which emerged in the late 2000s.
When you can come up with an actual argument let me know.

>>73034650
>a genre some guy from a magazine made up that no one has used in half a decade is a real genre
what are the musical characteristics that define slutwave then? Electropop with explicitly sexual lyrics and imagery from the late 2000s-early 2010s? is bjork slutwave? i also just said she was from that era. i didnt say what genre of music she made. i was describing the time period.

>>73034742
>i was describing the time period.
Yes, you're a retard. We get it already. You admit to it. Move along now.

>>73034740
>female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music.
So, Madonna. Timeframe is irrelevant.

When you can come up with an actual rebuttal, let me know. Methinks you're just a butthurt Madge fan that can't handle the truth.

>>73034742
you can't read dummy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwave
>Houston Press describes the genre as female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music."

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Hole was the most successful female fronted rock band in american history, she was very important to female rock even if everyone despise her.

Only rock, folk, and rap music are allowed to be political.
Pop music is about being happy, lowest common denominator.
No one wants to hear katy perry be woke, they want her to shut the fuck up and shake her titties and sing about lolipops.

>>73034754
See >>73034740
>>which emerged in the late 2000s.
I guess we're going to just go around and around in circles now because you lost the argument.

>>73034762
>Hole was the most successful female fronted rock band in american history
No they weren't, and they only had that popularity because of her boyfriend rather than their music

>>73034770
how many platinum records (without john) does yoko have again?

>>73034758
The only musical attribute they describe is the lyrics and gender of the musicians you aspie. Is that all you need to be slutwave?
>>73034750
nigga just kill yourself if you can't argue past posting wikipedia links and using the same 3 of insults.

>>73034783
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwave
>Houston Press describes the genre as female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music."
Read it, moron. Then read it again until you understand what the words say. I know it's hard but you'd be doing yourself a huge favor.

>>73034765
From the one of the sources Wikipedia fucking linked.
>But mostly, Rocks Off failed to convince me that “slutwave” is new. Female artists have long used crazy costumes/makeup/hair/shoes to exploit the attention they were getting for their music. As the blog noted, Madonna, Debbie Harry and Pat Benatar all wore provocative outfits that were sexually daring for their time. (And for male artists, look to David Bowie or Elton John.)
Actually read past what's on a references for once.

>>73034762
Original anti-bully anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE_IHgEGLsU
Whew Courtney did that

>>73034801
what are the musical characteristics though? ive read the article and the sources (that weren't dead links), something you haven't done >>73034812 and they never describe any musical characteristics past the lyrics. and answer the question, is bjork slutwave then?

>>73034812
>Female artists have long used
>wore provocative outfits that were sexually daring for their time
>used, wore, were
>this new thing has elements of some old thing
lmao
You just can't win, can you? Thinking is hard though, right?

>>73034834
See >>73034801
>Read it, moron. Then read it again until you understand what the words say. I know it's hard but you'd be doing yourself a huge favor.
Now you want to ask questions that have nothing to do with the argument because you're an idiot. Not interested. better luck next time.

>>73034840
slut wave isn't a real genre. half of the links on the page that aren't dead say it isn't a genre. also it's not a fucking genre unless you're saying lana del rey, nicki minaj, and bjork are in the same genre.

>>73034855
>better luck next time.
>nothing personnel kid
answer the question then. is bjork slutwave? why or why not? but you can't answer that without looking like a retard because a) you are one b) bjork fits the vague definition and to say no would be contradictory of yourself and c) calling bjork slutwave would show how big of a retard you are

slutwave is more of an aesthetic than it is a musical genre.
And it is most noticeable and predictable in western pop music.
You dont see your pure Japanese pop waifus doing that slut shit in public.

Anyways, by now acting like a giant slut is super predictable and repetitive in pop music. Need to make people think you are a big girl now? Act like a stupid whore.

The same way teen boy pop stars will graduate into the " i bang a lot of ladies now, A LOT" phase.

I can literally pull up sever porn videos of women having their assholes fall out, right now.

In the age of the internet being a slut just seems desperate and try hard.

I think pop music is stagnate because they keep doing the same shit over and over again.
Also they need a new sound to absorb, something original.

ok that argument escalated but wouldn't "slutwave" have technically started in the 60s...70s for sure

>>73034888
how is it reaching for straws? your only argument is wikipedia article. not even the sources of that article agree with you. but because you can't be bothered to read past that website you stick semantics even when proven wrong by your own source

>>73034916
oh and there are a lot of sounds top 40 pop could absorb to create something weird and unique that they have never done before, like shoegaze, or vaporwave, or death metal.

But the modern music industry is full of pussies who dont take risks anymore

>>73034919
>bobs burgers
oh my bad. didn't realize i was talking to an actual autistic child

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>>73033691
Its not exactly new, as her body ages she struggles to gain relevance through her physical charm and thus is becoming rapidly disillusioned to the music industry, as a result of this she is attempting to rebel against such whilst being afraid of losing her main source of income and is so is intentionally putting herself across as being as crass and impulsive as possible with the hopes of exploiting the current trends of feminism and open sexuality to maintain what little relevance she has left. Keep in mind that, at the end of the day, a large amount of these pop acts are little more than commercial products and have little to no ability to write their own compositions, lyrics, melodies etc. so she is essentially stuck in the bubble of having the same pop producers as before and can only really change her own style rather than the style of the music - which is fundamental to keeping an act fresh and engaging to the listener both of which she is far past and likely beyond the point of no return. No doubt she likely saw the attention and controversy Miley Cyrus gained with her "slutty" appearance and decided the ends justified the means, sacrificing what little self-respect she has in exchange for keeping her mansion in top form.

>>73034956
>can't answer the bjork question so im just gonna repeat the same joke three times
nigga it's right there. just answer the question and explain why. that's all you gotta do.

>>73034984
>four times
>https://psychology-tools.com/autism-spectrum-quotient/
post your results and ill post mine. not even kidding.

>>73035012
>>73034984
>>73034956
>>73034919
What did he mean by this?

>>73035012
>five times
>pictureofhand.jpg
ya got me anon. katy perry is definitely post avante jazzcore

>>73035041
It heavily upsets me that you keep posting this.

>>73035056
i know, it isnt even an argument and it derailed the thread where we shit on how shitty this dumb slut is

>>73035041
you know there is a spam rule right? or are you that new? you know you could just decide to make an argument instead of downloading so many pictures of hands?

>>73035092
you're gay

>>73035092
they weren't in the """argument""". this >>73035086 was my post

>>73034919
>>73034956
>>73034984
>>73035012
>>73035041
wicked banter

>>73035105
you're gay x2

>>73035137
you're gay x3

>>73035105
>>73035127
>>73035137
please keep going
I think I'm in love with you

>>73035150
you're gay x4

>>73035137
>tfw i was actually arguing with a Kaufman-esque character actor

>>73035159
you're gay x5

>>73035171
ay

>>73035171
lmao

>>73035187
but that's 8 you fucking retard

>>73035187
that's eight

>>73035171
now i wanna watch you run out of the count images. or answer the bjork question.

>>73035204
you're my best friend

>>73035204
what's your favorite slutwave album?

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>only a matter of time before those two start to ERP

>>73035222
Nice trips

>>73035204
the fact you're not counting ALL the autism replies is upsetting me deeply

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>>73035215

>>73035233
is this an autism reply

>>73035222
my favorite slutwave album is Vulnicura

This dude is samefagging the shit out of this thread

>>73035247
is this an autism reply? skip to 15 if this is an autism reply

>>73035250
swear to god he will not

>>73035256
i <3 you

>>73035256
What will happen first?
>runs out of sesame steet images and gives up
>runs out of sesame steet images and he makes his own (my vote)
>gets banned
>reaches bump limit
place your bets here

>>73035282
well I guess that question got answered

breaking news : mods hate fun

>>73035256
Where did you go?

>>73035339
Do you have anymore Count pics?

>>73035339
>not using the same filename count-anon did
you could have at least tried a little more. anyway, how do you feel about Katy Pery, Bjork and slutwave as a whole?

great thread

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>the lil' butthurt faggot is still reporting my posts
LMAO

You've lost in every conceivable way at this point, retard. The very best you could do was run for help like a bitch when you didn't have the intellect to refute anything I said couldn't outlast me with your autism replies.

I sooooo won, you weak-minded little shit. Now run hit the report button because you're a stupid twat and you need someone to protect you from the mean mans bad words.

>>73035556
>several people are willing to get themselves banned just to continue the count meme
what are the musical characteristics of synthwave besides lyrics?

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>>73035596
>furiously reporting like a lil' bitch because you lost an argument
How's your tiny dick doing, faggot? Does it hurt like your ass does right now?

>>73035636
so explain slutwave then. even though I called it synthwave here >>73035596

>>73035670
See >>73034855
>Now you want to ask questions that have nothing to do with the argument because you're an idiot. Not interested.

>>73035681
how are asking what are the musical characteristics not relevant?

>>73035697
See >>73034801
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwave
>Houston Press describes the genre as female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music."
>Read it, moron. Then read it again until you understand what the words say. I know it's hard but you'd be doing yourself a huge favor.

>>73035707
the only thing it describes are the lyrics. what else? is bjork slutwave?

>>73035718
Answer your own question, moron.
Is Bjork
>a female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music.
Well?

>>73035736
i say slutwave isn't a real genre so no. your turn to answer the question.

>>73035759
In other words you desperately tried to change the subject of the argument and now that I'm willing to engage with your diversion tactic you'd do anything to avoid the substance of the alternate discussion you yourself brought up.

You're an idiot. You can't even evade without making yourself look stupid.

>>73035805
So why won't you answer the question? I already acknowledged several posts ago the i don't believe slutwave is a real genre. And (you) said it was. So my question is to help clarify what is or isn't slutwave. So is bjork slutwave?

I already answered your question, you're just too stupid to realize it. You wanted to know if Bjork is Slutwave? Here it is, see >>73035736
>Answer your own question, moron.
>Is Bjork
>a female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music.
>Well?

This is just MK Ultra monarch shit to draw our attention away from global affairs

>>73035860
All you have to do is say yes or no. A one word answer. So which is it?

>>73035832
>All you have to do is say yes or no. A one word answer. So which is it?
Once again: answer your own question, moron.
>Is Bjork a female musician who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music?

>>73034762
>L7 was the most successful female fronted rock band in american history
Fixed

>>73035885
I did here >>73035759
now what is your answer? yes or no? no in between.

>>73034483
>no ARMBAR
one job anon

>>73033975
>not rihanna

>>73035911
lmao
Well well well...
It looks like I've backed you into another corner you can't seem to wiggle free from and all you have left is going around around in circles again.

You can't even win an argument you framed yourself. Sucks to be stupid, I guess.

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Who did it better, /mu/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtHKAykdByc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7_Zlnh0dzw

>>73033691
marketing

>>73035951
>can't give a one word answer
it's ok dude. i guess thinking for yourself can be difficult for your types.

I just don't get something. Why this whole slutwave garbage is even a thing when there are actually decent pop female singers like Adele, or Sia? If their target audience is teenage girls, why sexualize your image?

>>73036035
it's not a real thing. but the sexualized image is so teenage girls can feel rebellious. been that way since at least the 80s

Bjork is uglywave.

She's an artist who uses her ugliness as a promotional tool.

Just like other ugly female pop musicians like Grimes, Lorde, and Sky Ferreira.
A male equivalent would be Thom Yorke.
An actress/model equivalent would be Cara Delevingne

Their artistry consists mainly in being ugly in a quirky and crudely glamorized way, in order to be idolized by alt-normies who need a SPECIAL waifu to reflect their SPECIAL personality. The music is there just to support that.

but she's not a slut, she's more like an escort: she exists to satisfy people's ego, instead of their dicks.

>>73036024
>can't give a one word answer
lol, no you obviously can't. Because it would mean you lost a second argument in this thread to me, your intellectual superior. Hence whey we're going
>around and around and around
But please feel free to see >>73035885 one more time.
>Is Bjork a female musician who "favors sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music?
How's the salt in that wound?

>>73036061
and what are the musical characteristics of slutwave? all that you posted are the lyrical.

>>73036105
>>around and around and around
lol

>>73036110
and yet you can't answer anything in your own words

>>73036121
>and around and around and around

>>73036125
are you gonna post the same thing until you get banned or answer 1 (one) question for yourself?

>>73036144
>and around and around and around

I'd say that what distinguishes slutwave artists from earlier slutty artists is that the former try to be *disgusting* whereas the latter merely tried to be sexy and kind of lewd.

Like, sure, Madonna was kind of a slut and so was Britney Spears. But they didn't try to come off as *gross*. If you check out Miley's costumes they always include some grotesque accessories.

Kinda like those ugly-ass kneepad-things >>73033691

And also there was the whole seafood thing, and the adult baby gimmick.

Slutwave is meant to gross people out more than it's meant to arouse them. It's kind of like some high-budget mainstream Troma aesthetic.

>>73036152
so you are not gonna answer any question for yourself?

>>73036182
lol
>and around and around and around

>>73036185
so you're gonna just spam instead? I want to discuss "slutwave"

>>73036212
>so you're gonna just spam instead? I want to discuss "slutwave"
>and around and around and around

>>73036221
I think "slutwave" is to ill defined to be a genre and that it overlaps to include artists the original term was not meant to

>>73036241
>I think "slutwave" is to ill defined to be a genre and that it overlaps to include artists the original term was not meant to
>and around and around and around

>>73036241
see
>>73036165

>>73036241
Yeah, autismo. See >>73036165.

>>73036252
had Katy Perry ever tried to be gross with her slutiness? she seemed to have done it the conventional madonna way. also i barely wanna talk about this non-genre. kinda just want to continue the autistic argument with the guy leaping as the first guy

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so does that mean slutwave is the pornogrind of pop music?

>>73036248
how am I avoiding the argument?

>>73036285
I'd say there was always an intentionally creepy fake-sugary element to her aesthetic, but it wasn't as fucked as what Lady Gaga did around the same time.

but now she's going full-on weirdo gross-out slut

>>73036297
see
>>73036165

>>73036304
but madonna's forward sexuality had been used as a tool to cause disgust as well. her somewhat blasphemous like a prayer video was designed to cause repulsion in the same way "slutwave" musicians were. Also no one has used the term slutwave to describe an artist since 2012 so I'm sticking to Katy Perry before then

>>73036339
see
>>73036165

>>73036306
How is that avoiding an argument though? I responded to the person who posted that here >>73036285

>>73036346
then Katy wouldn't fit because she was no more goss than madonna

>>73036339
guess that depends on how integral to the artist's image it is, then, cause that's a rather exceptional element of Madonna's image.

>>73034082
>this shit has wiki article, which is approved
'kek'.

>>73036350
>>73036360
see
>>73036165

Eh, I'm bored now.

>>73036362
honestly I really don't think this is even a genre. barely an aesthetic. I'm really just trying to see how far the larper >>73036371 will go.

>>73036371
But I already addressed his points. What do you mean?

>>73036389
>>73036397
see
>>73036381

>>73036413
but why don't you just answer my question instead?

>>73036436
see
>>73036381

>>73036443
Can't you just go back to posting Count pictures

>>73036518
no
see
>>73036381

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>>73033691
>Chained To The Rhythm (which bombed)
Did it actually? I unironically like that song desu

>>73036535
Please?

>>73034004
She buried her career by trying to act like a southern normie singer. BTW wasn't my favourite song of hers but you can't deny how successful it was.

>>73036558
everything other than number one is a bomb for perry, but yes that song is actually pretty good.

>>73034082
Dude I remember hipster runoff holy shit

>>73034770
this is completely false. The only reason Nirvana seem like the bigger band now was his suicide

>>73033691
reminder that she was never hot. just had big tits nothing else

>>73033975
nice try little fagster

gaga's career died a long time ago. now she is a nostalgia act

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>number one in Hungary
holy fucking shit, congrats!

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>>73033975
Along with my boo... Who should be more popular being that she is the most talented singer that has come around in a very long time. Pic related

>>73033691
>problematic

anyone that unironically uses that word deserves a slow painful death

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>>73034240
leafy fans aren't welcome here

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>surprised that an aging pop star is using a faux-edgy rebirth to boost sales
Miley Cyrus just got out of her "white nigger" phase (acting like an offensive stereotype to associate with "urban" culture), it seems Perry is doing a Bowie thing. She fails horribly at it because she has not one iota of Bowie's talent or artistic vision.