When are loud angry guitars going to be a thing again? Indie

>>73015330
>When are loud angry guitars going to be a thing again?
metal is still huge, incase you didn't notice. unless you're not a fan of growling vocals in which case you're SOL

>>73015330
Almost every rock band out right now has at least one song with heavy distortion, punk has made it acceptable.
God I fucking hate babymetal.

>>73015592
more gain =/= more energy/aggression
too bad 90% of rock listeners don't realize this

>she likes aggressive men
>Jap male are one of the most timid men in the world

How can nips even compete?

Babymetal makes me want to fucking kill myself. If they are a taste of what is to come then someone just shut the whole fucking genre down before it burns into cinder and smoke.

>>73015687
>If they are a taste of what is to come
pedophilia acceptance?

>>73015704
no: absolute garbage metal fed to idiots who have yellow fever, which I will never understand.

>>73015724
i was joking m8, but yeah it seems heavy music is increasingly catering to weeaboos and i can't stand it either

>>73015649
They stand no chance against the BWC

>>73015782
But Who Cares? I agree

>>73015562
>metal is still huge
Why does metal never age? It must literally be made of metal.

Bands like Metallica, Nirvana, or even Korn, devolved into generic rock, like Creed and Nickleback. Indie like the White Stripes et al. was the only anecdote to that soulless shit.

>>73015330
Well, Swans are a thing. And loud, angry guitars are a thing for them.

>>73016138
>anecdote
listen to lo-fi and garage shit. plenty of messy, angry guitar that isn't metal or hard rock

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Wot

there's good new stuff happening, taiwan housing project are promising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84RSN-m079k

White Suns (although their upcoming is a drone thing which triggers me a bit)
Idles has its moments
Pissed Jeans has its moments
KEN Mode is great
Fight Amp was great but they broke up recently

idk man there's lots of that stuff

>>73015330
Who the hell made this? None of it's true and it's just a weird thing to come up with.

>>73016255
She is so devoted with her character that she would without doubt take all of Metallica members at once

>>73016202
what the fuck am i listening to

The Japanese are a pervert race tbqf

https://soundcloud.com/xblackxsantax

peep me saving rock & roll

>>73016166
more like loud angry everything

>>73015948
Depends which metal your talking about

>>73016202
these are some crazy dykes

>>73015330
Listen to more garage rock bands, they usually intentionally sound lo fi and distorted like White Stripes and early Black Keys

>>73015649
I think she really just wants someone to do her chores

>>73015592
>Babymetal
That shit is awful. I listened to it once and I can't get why people like that shit. Also my facebook new feed getting flooded with shit like "(insert metal band here) meets babymetal!"

>>73015704
nah, cancerous J-pop with an electric guitar that leddit "metalheads" jerk off because they think it angers "metal elitists" or whatever

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>>73015948
metal is an elitist death cult that exists in the fifth dimension were they do not care for mainstream recognition and make albums filled with pig noises that have artwork of a zombie giving free abortions and the band is called "legalize murder" or something.
The pop machine refuses to absorb it because of how off putting it is, except for that one time in the 80's when everyone had big hair

baby metal is a novelty act thats gimmick is already worn thin, no need to get so ass Paineed about it,

>>73017526
can you name some?

>>73017678
The White Stripes and The Black Keys?

>>73017670
This basically, babymetal feels so gimmicky to me

>>73017767
The black keys for more heavy blues based hard rock and white stripes for just pure rock

>>73017789
Yeah, it's awful.

>>73017767
nigger everyone and their gran knows them, I meant bands like them

they're still a thing

>>73017868
Heh yeah about that anon.....
I've been in a stagnating period musically right now and heven't found any bands like them so far but good luck on finding them on your own!

>>73017670
>>73017789
>>73017833
do you guys feel the need to say obvious things when you're with friends too? it must be painful to listen to

There's been a garage rock revival going on for the past five years senpai

thee oh sees
everything ty segall touches
wand
king gizzard

just to name a few, they also tend to get pretty psychedelic if that's your jam

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>>73015330
this is bold new sellout territory for rhcp

>>73015330
Just listen to metal

>>73015330
>actual music played by musicians needs to be replaced with a wall of guitar overdrive again
No

>>73018548
>>73017526
Stay away from this trendy garbage, its just 60's pop rock with fuzz pedals and DUDE LOFI everything. Most boring shit ever to pose as psychedelic.

>>73016255
google it. clickbaity tabloid blog apparently. fake news literally.

>>73019929
>>73018548
>>73017526
ugh you guys make me sick
5 years huh?
White Stripes and Black Keys?

>>73015330
hardcore, metal, noise are all still things, friend

>>73017789
Metal is gimmicky and shit. It's lol so nerdy D&D faggot autism with a spooooky scary sheen and ridiculous stage gimmicks. Babby Metal isn't killing something that's already dead. It looks like it's parodying it as far as I can tell.

>>73018548

fuzz is pretty great too desu

i like being agressive as a person and musically

>>73020192
>everything Ty Segall touches

>>73020404
yeah im drunk idk how i missed that lmao

rec any wand albums?

>>73020485
they only have 3 and theyre all excellent
start with the 1st, go chronologically

>people STILL think they're dying out

Every single year since 2010, but they have gotten exponentially popular every single year.

Who /can't wait/?
https://www.warnerbros.com/studio/news/brc-baby-metal

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>>73018669
Opened for them two tours, as well as Guns n Roses and Metallica. About to open for Korn and Stone Sour and their solo show in Hollywood Palladium in a couple weeks Hell Yeah is gonna open for Babymetal.

RHCP didn't sell out though. They were playing at the same festival in Japan last year and they went to watch them perform from side stage and liked it so much they asked them to open for them. Babymetal came out and danced while they performed Weird Like Me the first time they opened. The last show they did together RHCP dressed like Babymetal band members and played along with them.

what the fuck is babymetal and should i be scared to find out?

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yfw kiedis fucked babby metal

>>73020786
japanese novelty meme act the mixes metal with pop music, blew up a few years ago.
Wake the fuck up old man

>>73020786
It's bizzare. It's catchy. It's over the top. It's funny. It has good metal instrumentals.

It's gonna give you a strong reaction whether you like it or not. It's too much to take at once so it will probably not be a great reaction that that faggot tripfag but for a lot of people it aticks with them and they end up watching all their videos and become a fan.

Start with Gimme Chocolate. It's not their best song but to me it is the most "Babymetal" song and gives the strongest reaction. Play it full screen and turn it all the way up.

>>73020786
a nip fad

>>73020886
japanese and pop metal arent new thing unless you are fucking plebe.
like you

>>73020920
7 year fad that is only projected to get bigger by next year

Wew

>>73020936
Name me a band like Babymetal before Babymetal. Remember, has to be before 2010.

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>>73020692

>>73020971
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dir_En_Grey

>>73020998
>Dir En Grey is like Babymetal

Come on guy. Babymetal is not visual kei. And I'm pretty sure Dir En Grey fans would be offended by that lmoa

>>73017678
Black Lips
JEFF The Brotherhood
The Orwells
FIDLAR
Charly Bliss
Slothrust
PUP
Drenge
Bass Drum Of Death
Slow Warm Death
Screaming Females
Moon Duo
King Tuff
Black Angels
Hot Snakes
Damaged Bug
The Intelligence
The Frights first Noise/Surf EP
And what
>>73018548
Mentioned.

Also modern pop punk relies heavily on old 90s distortion but 95% of the time is very derivative and generic. Here's a sample of ones I enjoyed or are local

Sorority Noise
Remo Drive
Homesafe
Tiny Moving Parts
Hot Mulligan
Skylines

>>73021062
METZ
Idles
Daughters

are okay too

>>73015623
underrated

>>73015782
Big white cock
>>73016238
Drones make me upset anyways. They are dumb and overused in todays experimental music.
>>73017789
>>Japanese commercialism

>>73020948
It's not like anyone but you sick pedophiles care about them.

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>>73021253
Epik meme

Look at all these RHCP normies that were so excited to take a picture with a Japanese girl cosplayed as Moametal.
https://twitter.com/k715i/status/856731177134280704
https://twitter.com/k715i/status/856724074579537920
(there's a lot more but you get the picture)

Not to mention a bunch of actual big musicians and celebs love them.

And the lead is 19 and they will all be over 18 in a month so you're gonna have to get a new one, champ.

>>73021562
>Not to mention a bunch of actual big musicians and celebs love them.
Yeah i'm sure they all love them and there's no $$$ involved.
You babymetal pedophile evangelists are cringe as fuck.

>>73021599
>there's no $$$ involved
In what way does money enter the equation? Especially when their fans generally lose their shit if they say anything remotely positive about them?

They only started getting liked when they started performing festivals with metal artists. BM haters can't stand it but they are an amazing live group. And that got respect from other artists. Before then, they got no love.

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>>73021643

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>>73021562
could you possibly shitpost like unty? that's what we would prefer. you would have more fun and we would have more fun

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>>73015330
>indie rock and punk have fully divorced aside from bland-as-milk post punk "revival"
Luckily rap has filled in the void for aggressive music, look at Denzel Curry

>>73021696
>rob zombie
>metal
lmao

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>>73021804
I remember when one time an anon got so mad at a particular artist that took a pic with Babymetal and specifically named Abbath as the one band that at least would never sink that low. I want to find him and hear his thoughts.

>>73022010
But I'm not mad, Babymetal is objective trash and they'll still be trash no matter how many "musicians" pose with them for that sweet PR.

>>73022036
It always makes me smirk how people try to rationalize these things and you know that it gets to them because they feel the need to do that. Abbath posing with Babymetal is a good PR move for them? Really?

If a band wants PR they are much better off trashing them. Hell, Nergal slighted them in a video not too long ago and got his dick sucked for the next few days over it.

>>73021253
>pedophiles caring about 18-20 year olds

>>73022413
they're called "babymetal", they look very young, they started when they were even younger, they're very petite, they have the vocals of 10-year-old girls, and their entire image is based off of cutesy kawaii weeb pandering

don't let that get in your way though

>>73015623
I don't get this comment.

>>73021062
I hate doing this, but none of them have the songwritting talent of ANY of the great 90s bands.

>>73022575
>18-20 year olds looking and sounding like 18-20 year olds
>pedophiles

>>73022640
>look/sound like 20 year olds
>implying

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>>73022575
>they're called "babymetal"
Name came from the creation of their own genre, and also as a play on words in Japanese which rhymes with "Heavy Metal"

>they look very young, they're very petite, they have the vocals of 10-year-old girls
All of this boils down to them being East Asian

> they started when they were even younger
Yes, but they were part of a group that was basically a grooming unit for ejecting them into entertainment careers in adulthood, Babymetal accidentally caught on. It was never supposed to get this big.

>and their entire image is based off of cutesy kawaii weeb pandering
>entire
Wrong. They use a lot of metal and satanic/illuminati imagery.

That being said, to imply that they don't have those kind of fans is delusional but to imply they make up the majority of fans is even more so. They wouldn't be a huge success at every metal festival they go to filled with curious on-lookers and non-fans who happen to be metalheads if that were the case.

You're projecting.

>>73022745
>their own genre
lmao

>>73022755
Like I said, name me another band like them before they started. I can name you plenty like them after they started though. They spawned a whole bunch of "kawaii metal" bands.

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>>73020111
Spot on. Maybe they just don't like their wrinkly old bands being satired.

>>73022783
They're jpop with overdriven guitars.

People who dislike baby metal fall into two camps
true metal elitists, and people who see the obvious novelty act.

People who like baby metal fall into two camps, contrarians who like le quirky pop jap metal, and pedophiles

In the end the band itself is harmless, and i appreciate a pop act that isnt nigger music i guess

>>73022806
Actually, they're metal with J-pop vocals. Name me another like them before they started. Why can't anyone give me that?

>>73022843
They definitely created a new subgenre which most people refer to as "kawaii metal" or "alt idol".

>>73022783
Why m8? If we show you a japenese pop/metal band, you'll deflect it with some bullshit "YEAH BUT THEY'RE NOT KAWAII GURLS"

>>73020948
why are you defending this shit

>>73020786
90s Metallica for the 2010s

>>73022869
Dir En Grey? Really? Yea, give me an actual similar band. Like this. https://youtu.be/_-okRVwEvp0

>>73022873
That isn't happening at all though, you were the one who pointed out the "genre" thing.

>>73022902
You can say that about every subgenre you mong.

Pop and metal already fused together in the 80's it was called hair metal.
People who know nothing about metal get off on supporting this novelty act because they think they are le sticking it to the metal heads.
Also they are pedophiles.

>>73020111
Metal is just very gimmicky hard rock with the largest manchild demographic.

>>73022704
>tricking pedophiles with those bodies and faces
>implying

>>73022910
Yeah just looked them up.
Boring metallica riffs with a literal jpop band who can't play instruments being ~kawaii~

Why is this a thing?

>>73022959
>wearing loli
>literally named after nabokov's lolita
>literally romanticizing pedophilia

>>73022745
>Babymetal genuinely more kvlt than 90% of Black Metal

I love it

>>73022835
Because they follow the formula of every jpop act with sometimes a shallow guitar solo, but if I quote you any of them you'll say they're nothing similar because you're a philistine that can't analyze music and only listens to it on a superficial level (to the texture, basically).
You don't make a new music genre by playing something with distorted guitars and some growls, it's not that simple, the fundamental characteristics of jpop -formulaic structure, strong and catchy choruses, brevity, no thematic development- are all there.

>>73022967
They have a bunch of different styles in their music. I like their Dream Theater one best.
https://youtu.be/02uq_GQAly0

Also check out 4 No Uta. The verse riff is literally ripped from Master of Puppets.

I actually think if you somehow fused modern pop production with metal it would be a success, it would be different from all the rap nigger pop music the jews shove out.

Not sure if metal heads would take too kindly to it

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>>73022745
nothing you said contradicts any of my points. i never claimed it was a majority of the fans, i was merely pointing out how silly >>73022413 is. it's funny that you would claim that i'm projecting in such a strange context. especially when you're spamming /mu/ with your little girl group obsession. but hey man, no judgment. people don't ask to have bad taste or to have degenerate desires. you would have zero control over it anyway so how could i criticize it? it's just a matter of whether you choose to offend or to go to a babymetal concert. that's when society starts to reject you

>>73023008
People like you have no idea what you're talking about because YOU only look at them on a surface level. They don't follow the formula at all. They aren't on TV, they don't do commercials. They don't act super bubbly(watch a western interview, they're boring as fuck). Literally the only thing they have in common is that they aren't in charge and didn't create it themselves but that isn't even exclusive to J-pop and their are plenty J-pop artists that are self-made.

Also name me one J-pop artist ever that has constant mosh pits and calls for wall of deaths at their shows.

>>73023009
Amore best song. Fite me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7xameyqEMs

Japanese pop music is very different from american pop music, jpop girls have a focus on cuteness and purity, while western pop girls always turn into ultra sluts.

And you have to be a mouth drooling moron to think jpop isnt manufactured persona even more than american pop music


And no, fusing pop music with metal isnt new or original, i guess dancing Japanese metal girls is

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>>73023149
>this is how reddit actually formats

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>pedophiles

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>>73023093
>>73023005
>>73022745
>>73022413
>>73021562
>>73020948
>>73020533

>defending and/or enjoying baby metal

>>73023093
You keep focusing on things that are not musical at all.
You're only supporting my argument that you're an uneducated philistine that is uncapable of the most basic musical analysis.
All that shit about their persona, their shows, their TV interviews have jack to do with their music.

>>73023042
Weak shit to fall back on. Notice how I haven't argued with anybody who called them shit? Because I don't care. Every time they're brought up it's the same exact regurgitated memes from people who have the most entry-level knowledge of the group and Japanese music industry.

I view it as a whole project. I view the leader as the guy who created the group. They have people from Mad Capsule Markets and Coaltar of the Deepers making the music. There is way more to it musically than you give it credit for. If I didn't like the music I wouldn't give a fuck about the group. Also an amazing live show. And your argument falls flat on its face when they play to 10s of thousanda of metal non-fans who fully embrace them by the end of the show.

Keep projecting though. You only see what's in your own head. You're the one focusing solely on the girls when they are just one part of a wider thing. The backing band became beloved as well by fans and they were always meant to be faceless.

>>73023217
is that supposed to be an accurate way of determining age lmao

>>73023009
>ripped from master of puppets
you must have never heard limp bizkit, fucking noob

>>73023284
your brain is, but that failed

>>73017646
Shhhhhhhhhh. We don't talk about the 80's or the Glamfags come.

>>73023189
>somebody actually uses paragraph breaks?
>reeeeeeeeeeeeee leddit

>>73023321
they look 15 to me

>>73023217
>I'm into 17 year old minors who dress like 8 year olds
>I'm definitely not a pedophile guys!

I found Babymetal through X Japan and a couple of their songs reminded me of X Japan. I quite like them. They're nice.

>>73023335
>glamfags come

But we're already here. Who Poison, L.A. Guns, Enuff Z'Nuff, Ratt, Warrant, Tuff, Pretty Boy Floyd, Motley Crue, Dave Lee Roth, Tigertailz, Wrathchild here?

>>73023358
>implying you aren't talking to a pedophile who is telling you he won't touch that grandma shit

>>73023266
Well what the fuck else are you talking about because musically they're NOTHING like J-pop. And a major thing about J-pop is image. You are literally calling them that because they are Jap, girls, and have some poppy songs. Listen to the recently posted songs and make up some bullshit about those songs being J-pop. I would argue the first album has a strong J-pop element but the second one abandons it(which I don't think is a good thing).

>>73023132
Not my favorite but one of the best from Metal Resistance.

>>73023335
Metal is the best genre, its a weird paradox of a genre were its fans despise mainstream success, and are elitists and proud to be the complete opposite of everything mainstream and popular.
I think that mentality actually oddly helps metal survive

Does this cound as a mix of pop and metal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-8RmmfTHQM

>>73023312
You're thinking of Onedari Daisakusen.

>>73023422
>You are literally calling them that because they are Jap, girls, and have some poppy songs.
Sure, it's not like I explicitly told you why they're musically jpop, things you conveniently ignored because you probably don't even know what they are.
>Listen to the recently posted songs
Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7xameyqEMs ? Because that's a perfect example of what I meant with "jpop with overdriven guitars".

>>73023422
>I would argue the first album has a strong J-pop element but the second one abandons

The first kinda demonstrated their change from J-Pop with metal elements to full blown metal. Considering the first song they wrote was Doki Doki Morning and seeing how the last song they wrote for the album was Ijime Dame Zettai, you do get the sense that they were dropping more and more of their J-pop beginnings.

>>73023523
Holy shit that's power metal lmao

>>73023429
how is that a paradox?

>>73023559
>tfw the best Helloween albums released in the last 10 years were written by teenage Japanese girls

Feels weird, man.

>>73023559
It's almost like nips took a big inspiration from the hair metal and power metal scenes.

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>>73023442
>Glam metal (also known as hair metal and often used synonymously with pop metal) is a subgenre of heavy metal which features pop-influenced hooks and guitar riffs, and borrows from the fashion of 1970s glam rock.


Too late poptamists, you cant ruin metal, because it already happened >:)

>>73023581
usually music fans are happy and begging to be popular, while varg vikernes runs around a Forrest stabbing people and there is a hidden cult of metal elites called the dark circle and only true metal heads are allowed in

>>73023446
both songs desu

>>73023645
What part of 4 no uta is limp bizkit? The verse is literally the master of puppets riff.

there is literally nothing wrong with Babymetal. also there are still a good amount of sludge and doom metal bands putting out good shit like Crowbar

>>73023358
>17 year old minors
>being the same as pedophilia
lol libcuck ameritards are so fucking pathetic

>>73023879
>it's not pedophilia, it's epoepbebeoiboebphilia!!!!
this is what pedophiles actually believe

>>73023005
It was their best concert ever. Almost like theater.
https://youtu.be/jRc9dbgiBPI

>>73023963
>tfw age of consent if 16 in my country

Totally legal to lust over the baby metals

>>73023963
actually its perfectly legal pretty much everywhere. so again you are the only one in the wrong here.

also you're the first one whose mind immediately jumped to sexualizing them. got quite an imagination don't you bud?

>>73021696
This is just as bad as random metal bands wanting to back for lady gaga. It's always older bands too thinking lady gaga is still popular.

>>73024043
Is this another "only being positive towards Babymetal for money" episode?

He's attacking his own fans in defense of them for money? Think about how stupid that is.

>>73024006
Age of consent isn't there for 35 year old predators who live in their mothers basements to take advantage of.

And to be quite honest they don't even look 17, they're doing the loli thing.

Clearly this is for disgusting pedophiles who dream of going to Nippon and luring their own 9 year old loli sex slave.

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>>73024043
>I'M STILL RELEVANT: the picture

>>73024043
>rich people doing silly shit is so le fricking triggering!!!!
>people should only have fun the way my epic fantasies of them dictate!!
pathetic
by the way, why did you rape Lavren?

>>73024088
age of consent is age of consent you double thinking retard.
have fun raising Stacie's 3 black children because of your arbitrary personal vendetta against almost the entire world. once a bitch hits 21 you'll never know what she has fucked unless you had her early

>>73024117
It's crazy to think that people who use this logic for these pictures think literal icons (whom are still headlining festivals) are riding off of Babymetal's success. They are ironically putting Babymetal on a pedestal.

>>7302418
t. a pedophile

>>73024117
I said none of that, what's wrong with you?

>>73024268
Meant for this pedo:
>>73024187

>>73024295
damn... guess I'll have to turn myself in for not being a cuckold like you
oh wait, I don't live in your fantasy world so 17 is still legal lol
better luck next time

>>73024368
I like how anyone who doesn't date minors is a cuckold in your world. Your probably 14, so I'll give you a brake, but eventually it'll be really creepy for you to list over 14 year old girls. Your weird theory about adult women only haven sex with black men is just going to make people think you're a racist pedophile.

>>73024409
You're probably 14*
Lust over*
Haven = ha

>>73024440
Having*
Holy fuck I hate mobile

>>73024409
What are you on about dude? The main girl is 19 and the other two will be 18 in a month. I personally don't think they're attractive but you sound retarded. Also, most people here are 18-24.

>>73024043
i saw something about scott ian from anthrax wanting to work with her. it's amusing how out of touch some people can be.

>>73024459
They dress up as lolis and Japs look physically immature. I don't care if they're 90, they look 11 and they act kawaii~
They're for pedophiles like you

>>73024409
nice non-arguments you illiterate faggot. again, have fun being wrong when most of the world isn't like your imaginary land.
please go back to your shed

>>73024498
and how exactly isn't that a racist sentiment you fucking retard?

>>73024498
Their costume isn't remotely sexual. Go watch an AKB48 video if you want to see that.

And explain why they have a bunch of female fans dumbo

>>73022010
Why would he think Abbath would never do goofy shit like pose with Babymetal? The dude is fucking ridiculous. Have you ever watched him interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H6MYFC-f2w

>>73024498
>Japanese girls can wear costumes or have fun because they all look like children
>if they do they're just trying to win the pedophile crowd
wow, what the fuck is wrong with you. would you rather they don burqas and never be allowed to leave the house?

>>73024631
I find that most people who hate Babymetal don't know what they're talking about. Like this guy >>73023523 who has since been MIA.

It's funny that they got a much better response on /meal/ than the rest of the board even though the naysayers tend to do so in defense of metal.

And no I'm not saying if you hate Babymetal you don't know metal it's just that they usually have no clue what they're talking about yet pretensiously act like it.

>>73024540
>Calls other people racist
>Believes every white adult woman is impregnated by a black absentee father
Wew

>>73024556
Keep telling yourself that loli isnt sexualized lmao.

And female baby metal fans are 14 year old girls who don't sexualized them.

I mean, my little pony has 14 yo girl fans but that doesn't mean pedo autists don't love it.

>>73024709
>Women can either be sexualized or wear burqas, there is no inbetween.
Oh no, it's retarded!

>>73024745
>Like this guy >>73023523(You) who has since been MIA.
I'm still here what the fuck are you talking about.

>>73024786
>reddit spacing
>non-arguments
>tumblr ideology
we got a winner here boys
and may i remind you that you're the only one thinking about these (legal aged) girls sexually

>>73024808
hahahaha

>>73024808
Bwahahah are you the one sperging in the last few posts? No response for your poor knowledge so now you're resorting to this?

>>73024871
No one replied to my last post so I stopped posting in this thread.
Pretending everyone that disagrees with you is the same person so you can pretend they're mad is pathetic.

>>73024906
Being pathetic is pretensiously acting like a know-it-all and not even knowing what power metal is.

>>73024709
>>73024709
Yes.

>>73017646
>do not care for mainstream recognition

clearly you've never talked to a metalhead. He will tell you in far too many words that metal isn't about being mainstream but how it's so much better than pop music and how the musicians are really good and how everyone should just give it a chance, dude.

t. guy who has been into metal for 14 years

>>73024864
>Reddit spacing
>using paragraph breaks
Is this thread full of retarded 12 year olds?

>>73025062
Let's be real. Metalfags always complain about popular metal artists and want their favorite underground artists to get that kind of publicity and then when it happens they turn on them and repeat the cycle. Metal scene is divisive as hell in general.

>>73021696
>ROB ZOMBIE HAS NO TIME FOR HATERS
>literally replies to them on facebook

I want smartphones and social media to go away and give me back my pre-2007 internet...

>>73023603
>nitro
>ruined metal
numales leave the hall. you just mad because that 4 neck guitar impregnated your transGF instead of you.

>>73024966
Change the distorted guitars with something else and what you have is a run-of-the-mill less than 3min long jpop song.
Not like power metal isn't garbage, but that song, like virtually all babymetal songs is only about taking the most surface and basic elements of metal to give it the appropiate "harsh" texture while keeping the musical foundations as basic and jpop as possible.
As such what you have is a structure that would fit straight on the radio, a song that is short, a guitar that even when is in a solo is completely forgettable and an absolute focus on vocal melody.

Now keep saying how that is power metal because the guitar solo sounds like Dragonforce (all guitars played like that sound the same).

>>73025131
I was gonna call you grandpa but then I remembered how nice it was when people like Billy Corgan had no platform to talk about chemtrails and homosexual brainwashing.

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>>73025114
divisive is not the word I would use. Moronic is more like it.

The last time I went to see Metallica (about 10 years ago) there was a guy at the front, who literally looked away during all sets by all opening bands, but didn't leave his spot. Whenever the band played something from their first 4 albums, this guy rocked out hard and practically spat back all the lyrics towards the stage. Anything from the black album and newer? He's literally look away from the stage again.

This man paid 80 eurobucks to do this and did not get a drink or take a piss for hours to do so.

THAT is metal to me. A bunch of stuck up retards who will still spend literal money and time on bands they tell everyone they don't like.

>>73025220
>take away the metal instrumentation and it won't sound metal

Wow! What an argument!

Now redpill me on this song. Power metal? Or J-pop?
https://youtu.be/MIfPobGQmio

>>73025286
>Wow! What an argument!
Of course it is, playing the same style of music with another set of instruments is the shallower way to "make a genre" there is, however is the most effective since every plebeian can hear the difference without knowing shit.

You're the one that said "they created a new genre", they didn't create shit, going by the musical characteristics of their work they haven't done anything remotely original, the only reason they get hailed as that is because they put idols with a metal aesthetic, something that only works with people that are interested in consuming a product, and not music.

The video is blocked in my country but I'm not even going to use that as an excuse, I just can't be bothered.

>>73025275
The thing is, I think metalfags on the internet are absolute shite. But in real life they are usually some of the coolest people. I wonder do they act different online or are the ones online the ones that never leave the house.

/mu/ really has gotten pathetic

>>73025353
This is an ENTIRELY different argument from whether it's J-pop or not you dolt. Genres aren't all about music. Visual Kei and idols are their own genres and the music is just one part of it.

And since when is combining genres not creating new subgenres? That's literally how you make new ones. Babymetal is one big amalgamation of a variety of genres.

And the video is of a song made by Sam Totman and Herman Li. Literally Dragonforce with. Babymetal vocals instead. You would have called it J-pop like an idiot because you think the girls are the only thing that matters in the entire thing even when they are singing in a power metal style.

>>73025491
>This is an ENTIRELY different argument from whether it's J-pop or not you dolt.
It absolutely isn't, the whole basis for this discussion is you saying "their own genre".

>Genres aren't all about music.
Wrong, musical genres are all about music, you're confusing them with marketing labels like "grunge", that are created so listeners can develop a community around it and they can be marketed to more effectively.
>And since when is combining genres not creating new subgenres?
It depends what you mean by "combining genres".
If you mean taking musical characteristics of them both and combining them then sure, if you mean taking one genre and playing it with other instruments (and that's not even the case anyway) then hardly.

>And the video is of a song made by Sam Totman and Herman Li. Literally Dragonforce with. Babymetal vocals instead. You would have called it J-pop
I would've probably called it garbage.

>>73025596
You literally said it was J-pop then used an argument for them not creating a new genre by citing the fact they made a power metal song lmao

You're going off the deep end with this revisionism of subgenres. Your pretensiousness knows no bounds. They stated that Babymetal is a fusion of idol/J-pop and metal and their first album was exactly that and nothing that predates it sounds anything like it but things after did. It's like calling Linkin Park and Rage Against the Machine plain rap.

>I would've probably called it garbage.
Of course. That's what your argument is all about. You want to throw out all logic and objectivity because you strongly dislike them. Ironically these strong negative reactions helped them get big.

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>>73015330
Babymetal is pretty gay desu, especially their second album.

The lead singer doesn't scream or shout or yell or anything she just goes "whoa-oh-oh" for like 45 minutes and the same goes for the two dancing pipsqueaks.

It would be fine if it was actually a gateway band for actual metal groups but there is no venn diagram here the babymetal fandom is a self-contained one.

>>73026109
t. ex-babymetal fan/ladyfag

it's been a while dude

>>73025885
>nothing that predates it sounds anything like it


BiS did it first, and better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rehz5z0uuWA

>>73026164
nope. doki doki morning debuted in 2010.

that song also isn't similar to anything babymetal have done but I'll allow it anyway since there is a lot of crossover in fans. personally I don't know much of bis, and the one song I know from BISH is soft rock. (Spark '16, great song)

>>73026263
>nope. doki doki morning debuted in 2010.

yeah and that was a kids' song from a kids' group

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QbAXXXOJF8

This is as metal as Crazy Town during the heyday of nu-metal. You also know and I know that they weren't a group until years later.

>>73026403
>This is as metal as Crazy Town during the heyday of nu-metal. You also know and I know that they weren't a group until years later.
What? They were literally conceived as a group in 2010 on their own record label and everything. Your other comments don't have a point either.

>>73026459
They were conceived as a throwaway joke subgroup, and they didn't have a live band until 2014

>>73026607
>They were conceived as a throwaway joke subgroup
No they weren't. The guy who created it firmly believed in it. He took a risk going for it in the first place. There is some guy who works in the music industry that said he asked him about it and he told him to go for it full blast but I forgot who. And the first time Babymetal used a live band was in 2012, not that that matters.

Did Bis ever even have one?

>>73025275
Kek
Did he cross his arms disaprovingly too

>>73026109
Does that person have a pokemon shield and a sword?
Why?

>>73015562
more like stagnant and proud

>>73026750
>And the first time Babymetal used a live band was in 2012

skeleton band with unplugged guitars and rubber drum sticks does not count as a band.

I don't know where you're from, but most people typically understand that a "metal band" has, you know, an actual BAND involved and not just a bunch of people pretending to play instruments and pretending to sing.

They weren't a real band by any stretch of that term until 2014. before then they they had a fake band or no band at all.

>Did Bis ever even have one?

BiS wasn't pretending to be a metal band, they've always been an idol group, while ironically being more metal than Babymetal.

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>>73026800
>shield and a sword?

wut

I just think he's holding his backpack (purse?) and like a flyer or something in his other hand

I don't see a shield and sword

also I think it's brony/furry shit and not really pokemon

>>73026109
>muh screaming
Metal doesn't need screaming to be metal. You prove your newfaggotry to the genre by implying such. A band can sing faggy Jap melodies and still be metal.
>actual metal groups
Which you know nothing about. Maybe you're right that their fanbase is self-contained. You're living proof.

>>73026913
>Metal doesn't need screaming to be metal.

well it helps, that's also why the girl pretends to screams in a bunch of songs with very obvious playback screaming.

>>73026862
I don't understand why you use a live backing band as a defense for Bis when they never had one wtf

>I don't know where you're from, but most people typically understand that a "metal band" has, you know, an actual BAND involved and not just a bunch of people pretending to play instruments and pretending to sing.
ahh when people talk down to you when they're the ones who are wrong
https://youtu.be/hYHzzPzUIM8

Like I said it doesn't even matter because they never were official members, and it was a matter of budget back then.

>>73026164
That is godawful shit and so is babbymetal. Goddamn that is just shit.

>>73026963
>hat's also why the girl pretends to screams in a bunch of songs with very obvious playback screaming.
Do you think they are trying to trick people when they do that?

>>73026963
No it doesn't help. Metal doesn't mean screaming. And I don't care. I'm only on your case cause you act like a know it all when you don't.

Why are babymetal fans so cringe?
They're like those thirsty teenagers that lust after boy bands.

>>73026911
Nah the first picture is def a pokemon.
On mobile, he's actually holding a paper(?), It looked kinda like a shitty cosplay blade from far away.

>>73027070
it's mostly metalheads who think their taste is unique for listening to them
what else would you expect

>>73026981
dude that was just like 3 songs of the whole concert, the rest of the 40 minutes is the fake skeleton band with full playback

No real metal band has a fake metal band, ever.

>Like I said it doesn't even matter

It doesn't even matter that your metal band wasn't actually a real metal band for more than half of its career?

So what are you trying to argue exactly?

>>73027025
Yes.

Otherwise they wouldn't be lip-synching with it.

That's what lip-synching is.

>>73027096
What are you trying to argue? When did I imply any of that? You brought up the backing band all on your own. The hell is wrong with you.

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>>73027093
>it's mostly metalheads

no not really

like it was said earlier, it's a self-contained fandom. Babymetal fans aren't into much metal if any at all, and they weren't into much idol groups either. It's Babymetl 4 lyfe

>>73027115
>ywn be this dumb

>>73027032
>No it doesn't help. Metal doesn't mean screaming

Okay but they do scream in a bunch of their songs.

Well someone does, they pretend to scream.

>And I don't care.

You very obviously do care a whole lot.

>>73021062
>Black Angels
mi negro

>>73027139
That's not true though. The only people that knew them before 2015 were metalfags and weebs. Since then they have received a lot of mainstream exposure that has attracted average/casual music listeners.

Btw this dude is an ex-babymetalfag himself who is extremely mad about the musical direction of the new album and will apparently never get over it.

>>73027126
>What are you trying to argue?

BiS did it first and did it better. They had no pretense of being a band.

Babymetal is trying to pretend that they're a metal band and they're not very good at it.

>>73023629
how is that a paradox?

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>>73027187
>metalfags

I mean sure maybe in the "Linkin Park is my favorite metal band" sense

>>73027169
I don't care about the lip synch or Babyshit/Bishit or whatever, you weeb.

>>73027189
So you just wanna go in circles. They literally weren't first and they're not really alike especially considering you think Babymetal is trying to be a metal band (which they explicitly state they aren't) and Bis wasn't. Find a new group to argue cause Bis is not it and your backing band bit was embarrassing.

>>73015623
What = more energy and aggression in your opinion

>>73027218
So why are you white-knighting Babymetal?

>>73027249
He isn't dummy. He's telling you that screaming =/= metal.

>>73027249
I'm shitting on you for implying metal means screaming which is a separate thing. Now stop giving me (You)s, fag.

>>73027225
>you think Babymetal is trying to be a metal band (which they explicitly state they aren't)

oh is that why they decided to get a live band around the start of 2014 and then forever go on tours with western nu-metal bands and at nu-metal festivals?

I guess them ass-kissing Cannibal Corpse and Metallica and BMTH and Limp Bizkit is also them not trying to be a metal band

>>73023026
>fused modern pop production with metal it would be a success
Normies will never listen to anything with screaming, period. Pop music is more focused on image than music anyway, you could create the perfect pop song and no one would care unless it was performed by a Twitter meme or some attractive fuckboy

>>73027271
>>73027273

So what?

There can be screaming in metal, there is in quite a lot of it, even in Babymetal sometimes.

what flavor of autism is this

>>73027093
id say its more pedo weebs than serious metalheads

>>73027284
>2014
You are being willfully ignorant. Why not use a live band if you can have one? Like I don't get why you're actually complaining about these things.

>why are they bettering themselves??

>It's an "a good reason to listen to obnoxious Jap pedophile music is that it might piss off elitist metal fans" episode

>>73027370
>it's a "stop liking what i don't like!" episode
never gets old

>>73027363
>Why not use a live band if you can have one?

Well they obviously couldn't if they only had them for the last 15 minute of their live shows like it's a special treat.

No metal band does that
>How is everyone doing tonight! We'll be pretending to play our live song with unplugged instruments while our studio tracks are played, and then only play live for the last 3 songs!

They weren't a real band until 2014 when they finally had a real band full-time. That's what a metal band is. That's the bare minimum of what anyone would call a "band": having an actual band.

>>73027305
"There can be" isn't the same as implying there has to be.
>what flavor of autism is this
You tell me, autist.

>people getting this worked up over a novelty band that they don't have to listen to
epic

>>73027486
>crossposting white-knight babymetal fans defending the honor of their fair maidens

why

>>73027483
>"There can be" isn't the same as implying there has to be.

but there is in Babymetal, only it's not the singer who does any of it.

so where does that leave you

>>73026991
Like nails on a chalkboard. If that's the best Nip idols can do, fuuuck me I don't want to hear any more.

>>73027503
>implying i've ever listened to Babymetal
i just don't pay attention to things i don't like or am not interested in
you're sure angry about a couple teenage industry plants living a seemingly fun life

why don't you do something better with your life?

>>73017646
This but also not at all this. It's easy for bands and fans to fall into that but there is actually a lot of good stuff in metal that isn't just the same thrash album getting released over and over for decades.

Indie rock is full of loud angry guitars. Fuck dude, that was one of the defining qualities of the genre for a while.

>>73027460
I don't even get what your point is. They had a live band for a full tour in 2013. They still aren't actual members of the group. They play music made by other people and they rotate.

And then you say they onpy became a real group at that point? While the group who supposedly did it first never even reached that point? What is wrong with you?

>>73027516
That leaves me keking at your dumb ass. I don't care since that's not the point. You keep thinking I'm talking about that group and not you implying metal needs screaming to be metal. So stop moving the goalposts to irrelevant arguments I'm not even having.

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>>73027543
>implying i've ever listened to Babymetal
>i just don't pay attention to things i don't like or am not interested in

but you're posting in this babymetal thread aren't you?

Why would you do that if you don't like them or know about or listened to them?

really makes me think

>>73027643
because i spend my leisure time browsing 4chan
and it's just funny to me that people can get angry about the most inane shit imaginable

nice reddit meme by the way, thumbs'd up!

>>73027597
Nah. Indie Rock is full of limp-wristed faggots with Kurt Cobain haircuts crying about their feels. It's become one of the worst genres on the planet.

>>73027601
>They had a live band for a full tour in 2013

Not they didn't. That was 2014.

>And then you say they onpy became a real group at that point? While the group who supposedly did it first never even reached that point? What is wrong with you?

BiS was not a subgroup, and they weren't pretending to be a metal band either.

>>73027682
Somebody who clearly knows nothing about music spouting ideas based entirely on his idea of the image portrayed by fans of a band using meaningless 4chan buzzwords. Nice

>>73027642
>implying metal needs screaming to be metal.

I said that like 4 hours ago and corrected myself (screaming makes it not as gay) why are you still trying argue

>>73027709
How many times can you be wrong in one discussion?
https://youtu.be/Ky2c_nq9s5Y

>BiS was not a subgroup, and they weren't pretending to be a metal band either.
Can you stop making up your own standards to fit your argument? It is so so stupid. Bis was not a real group until they rebranded as Bish then.

>>73027778
>>73027709
https://youtu.be/3NLRkmxL1zM

>>73027398
I don't really care about them either way but the autism in this thread is pissing me off
>This band isn't good, why do people like them?
>LE TRIGGERED METALFAG xDDDD

>>73027976
That's just bullshit. It's actually
>I like this band
>Pedo! Weeb! Fake metal! It's so offensive!

I've been arguing the most in their defense and the arguments have been music related.

>>73021599

By this definition, I'm proud to be a pedophile.

>>73015330
It's still a thing, critics are crit ick and are never worth paying attention to. Look at some metal, hard rock, punk websites or whatever you're interested in. Or use RYM's custom charts.

>>73022575

They're not children.

Dont let that get in your way though.

Why does everyone hate Babymetal? It's the only good music besides Nujabes to come out of Japan ever.

>>73028063
this is most accurate
just look at the thread

>>73022930

>manchild

Theres a word that needs to be annihilated from the dictionary.

>>73028241
They don't. They used to have a really bad rep but they have become really "in" the past year and have gotten quite a bit of mainstream acceptance. They're way more liked than disliked nowadays.

For one, their yt videos are filled with nothing but positive comments but a couple years ago half of them were the same as the shit you see in this thread.

>>73023358

Pedophile means into prepubescent kids you silly little prick.

>>73023963

Except thats exactly what it is. Its like calling somebody gay cuz his girl has short hair or something.

17 year olds arent children. Children dont have sex with each other. 17 year olds do.

>>73015330
Stoner metal is going strong right now, but Doom isn't "angry" like that. I presume that the other metal subgenres are strong right now too, but I keep to my little realm unless I get good recs.

>>73024088

Seriously is it the HFCS that fucks up Americans minds? How in the hell is he a "predator" you autistic faggot.

>tfw i just can't into metal and indie is too soft and boring
>tfw i have to turn to pop punk or post punk or whatever those emo bastards call themselves just to get my fix ever since alternative croaked

hail the sun is okay but their first album is shit

>>73027778
>>73027797

They went back to using the fake band in June and December later that year.

Again, 2014 was the real they totally stopped using the fake band and permanently had a live band.

>Bis was not a real group until they rebranded as Bish then.

What does that have to do with anything? BiS is not BiSh

>>73028826
Are you still arguing this non-point? Jesus.

>>73028826
>he spent all this time googling this
So, let's say they stop using the live band again for a short tour. Does that retroactively mean they were never a "real" band? Think about the dumb shit you are spewing.

>What does that have to do with anything? BiS is not BiSh
The reboot of Bis has nothing to do with Bis? It has as much to do with each other as your "argument".

God I can't wait for archive.

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>that feel when made this thread
>its still up
>all the babby metal fags who think they are subversive get shut down when they get called pedos

post more pics of babby metal going around america and taking pics with metal bands like a japanese tourist at Disney land.

" Dave Mustaine san SUGOIIIIIII DESU NEEEEEE"

damn you showed us xd

>>73019801
>actual music played by musicians needs to be replaced by a wall of guitar reverb, delay, chorus, tremolo and "big muff" again
No

>>73029025
>implying you shut anyone down
>implying you haven't just been autistic screeching the entire time
you're really proud of yourself for making baby's first shitpost. try lurking for a few years before you try again

>>73028996
>he spent all this time googling this

nah I had other things to do besides hitting F5.

>So, let's say they stop using the live band again for a short tour. Does that retroactively mean they were never a "real" band?

Yes.

Real bands don't have to worry about not having a band, because they're real bands.

They can just barely be considered a real band right now considering their past and what they're trying to be. They would never go back to the fake band because they're trying to so hard to be real metal right now.

BiS never tried to be a metal band, they knew what they were, and they did it better than Babymetal.

>>73029211
You are mind-bogglingly retarded. By your own definition, Bis was never a real band. Just dumb. Very, very dumb.

>>73025094
Reddit btfo

so weird question

I'm looking for the name of this music I watched a while ago, it was of this female singer, a bit chubby if I remember, and she was singing in a warehouse. And in the warehouse had like barrels and like stars of lights came out of the barrels. I think the song was about like loving yourself or some shit. Anyways, any help is welcome, this is driving me CRAZY.

>>73015330
What the fuck did I just read, why did you post this
Explain

>>73029291
>By your own definition, Bis was never a real band

I never, ever said that BiS was a band, just the opposite. They're an idol group.

band =! group

>>73029552
So they're remarkably different yet BiS did it first? What? Babymetal started as an idol group and they were literally first and just as real as BiS was at that point.

Instead of doubling down on stupidity you should learn to accept when you're wrong. But you won't do that. You'll move around logic to different standards for each group to fit your argument just because you can't admit you're wrong.

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>>73029434
japanese girls form metal band travel around the west fucking various white men and taking trophy photos

Its just like a hentai

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>>73029025
>post more pics of babby metal going around america and taking pics with metal bands like a japanese tourist at Disney land.
Nah, I'll do videos instead.
https://youtu.be/TV82sursi14?t=5m43s
https://youtu.be/-VdZgKEWkzc?t=3m3s
https://youtu.be/xQZ9qvOM3bk

>inb4 music industry conspiracy
They got the metal scene giddy about meeting them, how bout that. And it bothers the fuck out of you.

>>73029620
>Babymetal started as an idol group

They started as a subgroup, Bis was its own group, and like you or some other dude said, their intention was to "go full blast" so their intention was always to become a pseudo metal band which is what they are these days

BiS not only had more of a metal sound right from the very beginning, but also a metal attitude. Their live shows and their entire existence was chaotic and controversial while Babymetal is safe and mediocre. They didn't have to wait for Dragonforce to write a song for them or take pictures with Limp Bizkit backstage.

>>73029711
>And it bothers the fuck out of you.


I literally can not even begin to explain to you in human words how much i dont give a fuck

>>73029711
>Five Finger Death Punch
>Papa Roach
>Corey Dadrock Taylor
>metal

OOOOOOO

>>73029735
You really should stop because you don't know what you're talking about. One of the other "subgroups" started before Sakura Gakuin did. They were their own entity. They had their own record label dumbass. That's as real as it gets. Your arguments are so stupid. The kami band to this day is also still separate from Babymetal. They are only a live thing but not an actual part of the group or the creative process.

>>73029751
>makes a thread
>makes excuses for the pictures like everyone else who """doesn't care""""""""
yeaa

>>73029773
more excuses, it wasn't even about legitimacy, it's about claiming that the pics aren't out of genuine feeling
>leaves out holt

>>73029825
>One of the other "subgroups" started before Sakura Gakuin did.

Babymetal did not

> They were their own entity. They had their own record label dumbass.

Yeah for the their one kids' song about putting on make-up in the morning.

as metal and as real as the unplugged guitars they pretended to play for years.

>>73030190
You still aren't making any point and you still are saying they're so dissimilar yet similar at the same time.

You're all over the place.

>>73030261
Let me reiterate.

BiS was first, and did it better.

>>73030352
You were already proven wrong

Babymetal was literally first. And judging by the reactions, even the people that dislike Babymetal think it's much worse. You can make up all the bullshit reasoning you want but Doki Doki Morning predates anything they've done. It's real. It happened. It exists. Fuck off.

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>>73030393
>Babymetal was literally first


Doki Doki Morning: October 24, 2011
Taiyou no Jumon: January 15, 2011

>>73030407
really makes me think

Who bought their tickets to see babymetal at the palladium in LA for next month?

>>73030446
>Doki Doki Morning: October 24, 2011
Debuted in 2010

wrong yet AGAIN

>>73030481
We're going with what you were saying about them being a real group with their own record label. That was when their first singles were released.

Since when did they move bump limit up to 310 on /mu/?

>>73030468
I'm not gonna fly all the way over there like so many crazy fucks are but it's great to see Vinnie Paul opening for them. Vinnie fuckin Paul.

Hopefully there's a nice new major announcement. I'll be jealous if they play a new song.

>>73030534
No, that's what you're going with. I said from the beginning they started in 2010, you are the one trying to arbitrarily move the goalpost wherever you can to fit your argument. You cannot change the fact that they were literally first.

>>73030551
>I said from the beginning they started in 2010

So did BiS.

>>73030586
And when did their first song debut? Babymetal already had a live performance by the time they were conceived. In 2010.

>>73030606
idk probably way earlier than whenever you think it was.

You spent all this time arguing that they're a real band and a real group and they were on their own real record label, and now you're backtracking and covering your tracks and saying "but they debuted as the heavy music club with Sakura Gakuin!". moving the hoalposts as they say

I don't know why you're telling me that I'm the one doing what you're doing.

>idk probably way earlier than whenever you think it was.
woooah this is the power of your argument

>>73030728
>>73030699

>>73015562
I can name some metal bamds with strong guitars without "growly" vocals
>Baroness
>Soen
>Beartooth
>A Perfect Circle
etc.

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>>73015330
off topic

something about indie rock:

-cobain admired and was dis-sed by black francis (pixies), who admired and was dissed by mark e smith (the fall)

-cobain also admired and was dissed by mark e smith

>>73022783
>>73022835
>>73022866
>>73023008

I just listened to them for the first time. In what universe is this not just nu metal? This shit was everywhere 10-15 years ago, even the vocal style is roughly the same just in a different language than the English most bands used. How have none of you mentioned this yet, were you all asleep last decade or something?

>>73030821
>implying any of this is true and you haven't been in this thread

They're "vocally" like nu-metal??? What? Most their songs are power metal but they span a bunch of different subgenres and a couple are yes, nu-metal.

>>73023337

>paragraph breaks
>every sentence
>two of the sentences don't even have periods and one is a run on sentence

>>73030821
Babymetal is babby's first, and usually only, "metal" band.

Plus I doubt much of the fanbase was either born or old enough to be aware of nu-metal from 15-20 years ago.

>>73030869

I... don't know what that means. Yes, I'm in the thread, that's how you're reading that.

Maybe they do jump genres, I only listened to the first thing that popped up on a youtube search and it was clearly just nu metal. If they do hit a bunch of different metal genres then that just means they... hit a bunch of different metal genres. It doesn't bring a new genre into existence somehow.

>>73030869
>Most their songs are power metal

what

>>73030896
It's fusion dude. If you took the girls out the picture it would just be metal.

>>73030925
Okay not most but I think they've hit that subgenre more than any other.

Off the top of my head
>IDZ
>RoR
>Akatsuki
>Amore

>>73030937
>It's fusion dude.

Not him but that's what nu-metal is.

>would just be metal

with elements of electro and hip-hop and pop and whatever else. That's nu-metal. Almost every band in the 90s had a DJ in it.

>>73030969
It's a fusion but nu-metal does not equal fusion. The only thing BM has in common with nu-metal is heaviness and in fact Babymetal is actually more metal because nu-metal musically tends to be hard rock.

>>73031022
>Babymetal is actually more metal

and why is that now

>>73031092
Musically. Nu-metal was basically hard rock.

>>73031160
and Babymetal is not? They're on tour with some of the biggest names in nu-metal and hard rock.

>>73031170
Uh, no? It's musically metal. I remember when people used to call nu-metal rap-rock. They are nothing close dude and your underage argument doesn't work on me.

>>73031189
>It's musically metal
>>73031092

>>73031221
https://youtu.be/6H_OxQgJks8
https://youtu.be/02uq_GQAly0
https://youtu.be/MIfPobGQmio
etc

>They're on tour with some of the biggest names in nu-metal and hard rock.
>red hot chili peppers
>metallica

>>73031250
even so, vocally there isn't a single similarity, I have no idea wtf that guy is smoking that said that was the main reason

>>73031189
>I remember when people used to call nu-metal rap-rock

Not all nu-metal is rap-rock

>>73031250
They're not on tour with metallica. They're touring with Korn and Stone Sour.

RHCP is alternative rock, which doesn't help your case.

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>>73021062
>Hot Mulligan mentioned
MY FUCKING MAN

>>73031310
Most of the most notable nu-metal bands were, and either way you are stretching like a motherfucker calling a j-pop/idol/metal fusion group nu-metal. Even wiki has it right.

>>73031329
>They're not on tour with metallica.
They already opened for them

>RHCP is alternative rock, which doesn't help your case.
Not a single person would call them nu-metal smart guy

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Is BiS nu-metal?

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>>73031382
They're nu-idol, I think

>>73031359
>Even wiki has it right.

Wikipedia also pretends that Kawaii Metal is a thing that exists because of autistic people

>>73020270
this is the most true answer
some people just love listening to aggression, just like people love watching violent movies or watching MMA. Metal is an outlet for aggressive and/or repressed people.

>>73031359
>Korn is rap-rock
>Disturbed is rap-rock
>Marylin manson is rap-rock
>Rammstein is rap-rock
>Slipknot is rap-rock

etc.

>>73031435
oh, can't call em nu-metal? they're closer to it too

>>73031478
I was referring more to the heavy aspect being classified as "heavy metal" but yea, kawaii metal is a thing, that babymetal made.

>>73031553
Are you one of those that classify all heavy music coming out in that era as nu-metal? Either way, I'm not concerned with nu-metal, has nothing to do with Babymetal.

>mfw bands considered nu-metal either don't consider themselves metal, or nu-metal.