/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

first for telecaster best guitar

>>72967307
>>72967307
Post pictures

>>72967448
You had to mention him in the OP. You faggots are so retarded.

I'm walking into guitarcenter tomorrow and buying my first electric. I have 500 dollars to buy the guitar, pedals, ect, only thing I don't need to buy is the amp. What do I get tomorrow? Lookin for specific gear recommendations.

Guitarists I like:
Frank Zappa
David Gilmour
Robert Fripp

>>72967509
Stop worrying about pedals so much you idiots. You don't need that right now, spend it all on a decent guitar.

>>72967509
for $500? at guitar center? a piece of shit

>>72967509
Line 6 Spider

>>72967509
I would get something with humbuckers + a big muff for those creamy lead sounds. I think all three of them have used a variant of a big muff at some point.

What guitar center are you going to, the best deals are usually on used stuff and you can look up their inventory online.

>>72967509
blues jr

>>72967509
buy the amp you like the sound of you retarded fucking cuntlick, quit obsessing over other guitarists, you're not them and they're not you, no matter how much you pose in front of your bedroom mirror and pretend

>>72967523
seconded

>>72967528

all you need is another guitar dude and you'll have the perfect tone. Just make sure you mod it with custom pickups

>>72967550
here's their inventory (probably doxing myself here but whatever):
https://stores.guitarcenter.com/englewood


>>72967523

i'm going to be using all this gear for a band, so I think pedals do matter atm since we're gonna start recording pretty soon. I don't get a lot of my money my way to go back and get pedals later, so I think i'm gonna get them now

>>72967591
And gibson bumblebee caps for the ultimate tone boost

>>72967528
>accoustic
>plays an instrument
>can't spell the name of it

fucking retard

>>72967610
>500 dollars
>wants several pedals and an electric

so youll be buying a squier then

>>72967611
>bumblebee caps

I die a little inside every time someone buys those things

>>72967558
i'm not obsessed with being those guitarists, i just like the way they sound. calm down

>>72967509
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Rogue/Rocketeer-Electric-Guitar-Pack.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Radial-Engineering/Tonebone-Plexitube-Distortion-Pedal.gc

>>72967668
cause youre too poor to sound that good?

>>72967685
thanks! will look into those

>>72967610
damn their used selection sucks, but this new Les Paul is a pretty good deal and they seem to have one in stock. The black one for $399

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone/Limited-Edition-Les-Paul-Traditional-PRO-II-Electric-Guitar.gc

That + a Big Muff and you're good to go.

>>72967671

every famous guitarist ever used like $2000 amps. You will never sound anything like them on a $500 budget. There's no point in "trying to sound close", nothing sounds close that's the point.

>>72967719
>every famous guitarist ever used like $2000 amps

lmao fucking idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q0nImsfMvE

>>72967719
i'm not delusional, i completely understand that. i'm sure anything close to Gilmour's pickups alone would run me at least 500. but you work with what you got

>>72967755
literally who?

>>72967718
that guitar is beautiful, looks like it has humbuckers and everything. thanks

>>72967755
>the proto hipster used shit gear
all he's missing is a fagmaster

>>72967778
>looks like it has humbuckers

holy shit, I missed that, those do look a bit like humbuckers don't they

>>72967756

what crayons should I buy if I want to paint something like the mona lisa???

>>72967827
>>72967778
You're shitting me, that's so awesome

>>72967778
>that guitar is beautiful

you should always buy the one that looks best. don't bother playing it or plugging it in. just order it online because you like how it looks, that's how to choose your guitar.

>>72967755
http://www.guitarplayer.com/news/1024/frank-zappa-inside-the-guitars-and-amps-of-his-greatest-recordings--video/54379

>>72967827
How old are you dude? You never get tired of doing this? I would expect this behavior from an autistic 14 year old, not anyone over 18.

>>72967832
Crayola make pretty good beginner level models

>>72967756
Yeah, those stock fender pickups are most of the cost of a guitar.

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>want to learn guitar but stuck in tiny dorms
is it sufficient enough to play unplugged or with a virtual amp? I literally cant make any noise around here

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>>72967832
it can be done, that's all i'll say

>>72967875
Why can't you use headphones?

>>72967844
>implying anyone who appreciates a guitar's look automatically doesn't care about tone

>>72967879

holy shit what crayons did he use there? Is that a crayola? I've been thinking of buying a crayola for that classic Da'vinci look, but I was wondering if maybe I should buy RoseArt instead

>>72967851
Fuck off roman, can't we have at least one serious discussion you don't shit on?

>/gg/ - hardwood flooring and crayon discussion

I'm ok with this.

>>72967903
I know for a fact crayola is non toxic. Great for when you're grounded and locked in a closet and you get hungry.

>>72967875
>is it sufficient enough

it's slightly sufficient, just not quite sufficient enough

work on finding ways to make it more sufficient, then it'll be sufficient enough

>>72967916
people itt can only afford one of those, and they probably have to ask their parents for the money

>>72967916
>hardwood flooring

I got warned for posting about hardwood flooring. Seriously. A mod objected to it being off topic for /mu/ and warned me. That's how great the mods are here. They're always on the lookout for hardwood flooring posts.

does swamp ash sound better than ordinary ash? how can I tell if my guitar is ash or swamp ash?

>>72967999
Scrape a knife across the back

>>72967999
Take the neck of, in the pocket it should have a list of wood details. Wood type, when it was cut, expiration date and so on.

>>72968039
off*

>>72968039
Or this, non destructive, knife if just a lot quicker.

>>72967999
if youre lucky itll say "qs". stands for quarter sawn, generally regarded as the most stable way to mill wood.

Todd Jones invented the guitar.

>>72968155
thanks for namefagging, makes it so much easier for me here

Does anyone have the name of that fuzz pedal that is pinkish and about the size of a memory man? The color kind of reminded me of the Sunbather cover but I can't remember the name of the pedal.

>>72968155
Stay in your containment thread cunt

>>72968212
>hipster shit

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>>72968212
?

>>72968268
>cream puff

how fitting for a /gg/ poster

>>72968280
Zing

Whats everybody's opinion of Celestion?
Worth the money?
Overpriced?
Comparable alternatives?

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I posted this a few days ago but I never checked for replies. Does anyone have experience with moog? Wanna try one of the small moogerfoogers specifically the delay. I honestly cant justify spending $800 on the other delay thats the size of an xbox.

>>72968268
This is the one, thank you

>>72968303
they are well worth the money but seriously overpriced, not really worth it, highly recommended, buy one immediately but avoid them like the fucking plague

>>72968310
Just got their ring mod the other day. It sounds amazing, highly recommend them.

>>72968366
see? no point giving good advice or bad advice or any advice at all here because no one listens

>>72968692
They're guitar players, not listening is what they do, be it to advice or to whatever music they're playing to

>>72968956
it's surprising as they seem so fond of the sound of their own voices

>>72968990
and their shit technique and toan

>>72967448
is playing bass fun? i want to learn an instrument but i think guitar is basic, drums are expensive and bass is pretty cool but idk. can u do cool shit with just bass?

>>72969115
Not really

>>72969115
Does this look like fun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NZGbD236fw

>>72969115

nobody plays bass for fun.

People play bass because a band needs a bass player so they get their shittiest guitar player to do it for them.

>>72969552
bass is kinda fun once in a while, it's sometimes good to switch your brain off and just groove along with a track if the bassline's good

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Any love for this guy?

Also friendly reminder, if you don't like microtonal music you are a racist.

Is this a good first guitar for a beginner http://usa.yamaha.com/products/guitars-basses/acoustic-electrics-guitars/fgx-fjx-fsx-series/fgx720sca.html because I can get it rather cheaply ~150usd in great condition? Also, is it right that I start with acoustic guitar, or can I start with electric? (I mostly listen to rock and different metal genres, but really don't mind acoustic sound).

>>72969709
>switch your brain off
I thought that's why people played guitar

>>72969715
No worthwhile music has ever been played or will ever be played on any guitar having more than six courses of strings.

>>72969779
http://m.usa.yamaha.com/products/guitars-basses/acoustic-electrics-guitars/fgx-fjx-fsx-series/fgx720sca.html

>>72969807
>No worthwhile music has ever been played on a guitar

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I fitted some new brass string pegs, will my toan be better now?

>>72969461
actually it does

>>72969807
>Korn
>George Van Eps


I could go on.

This short video really expanded my understanding of how to play bass properly and enjoy doing it.https://youtu.be/u3oNyBX3Vgo

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What are some surfy looking guitars?

What's the cheapest bass amp you could gig with ?
Hard mode : buying new

>>72967999
it literally makes no difference

toanfags are cancer.

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>>72970142
>Korn
>worthwhile

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>>72970475

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>>72970475
Flying Samurai is a good sho-off surf guitar.

Anyone knows of a place to find music theory books? I've been looking a couple of specific books on Classical Form, but I can't find them anywhere and they are a bit too expensive for my liking.

>>72970475
brand?

>>72972160
do you mean actually buying or pirating?

>>72972216
Nah, pirating. Unless I can somehow buy them at 50%.

Elements of Sonata Theory by James Hepokoski is at 50, Classical Form by Willian E. Caplin at 45. I already used more than I'd like on text books, they are fucking expensive.

>>72972258
>Elements of Sonata Theory

soulseek i dont know about the other one

/gg/ what do you think of my amon amarth cover

https://clyp.it/bxitb1xf

>>72972287
>soulseek
I didn't know about that one. I got it now, thanks anon.

>>72972311
I haven't listened to it but I just know it's complete fucking shit

>>72972407
Humor me

>>72972419
I can't even be bothered listening to that shit

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about to score this metal meme for 200, epiphone futura prophecy custom fx with original floyd rose

>>72972440

it's pretty good I guess

I hate this genre of music so it's hard for me to judge

>>72967509
Go to gc to try guitars. Go online to buy them. Just get a mim strat. Or an epiphone with coil tapped humbuckers.

>>72967448
What fuzz pedal should I get
I have almost no money to spend on pedals

>>72967668
>he doesnt repair vintage guitar gear

>>72968268
I'm gonna buy this only becuase it's pink.

>>72972493

have you tried turning the gain on your line 6 all the way up?

>>72967999
Swamp ash is lighter and considered more resonant. Its just ash that been in a bog or swamp.

>>72968303
Yes

>>72972311
6.5/10 playing
2/10 mix

>>72969807
Do you know who steve vai is? He actually popularized the 7 string. In fact korn used 7 string jems

>>72972455
Why would someone put a decent floyd in an epiphone?

>>72967448
>How do I start learning guitar?
>>justinguitar.com
Do you any other site you would recommend?

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>>72972500
sorry bro, but gibshit ripped you for $112 with a counterfeit cap. how does it feel to be retarded?

>>72972972
>Buying reproductions

>>72972673
If they didn't make bad choices they wouldn't be guitarists, now would they?

>>72972998
>reproductions
haha, no. what that's called is a "cash in"

besides, same value and polarity sound the same regardless of make up. these sound no different than a cheap ceramic.

>>72973073
that's a reproduction made by gibson, have you ever even held a real bumblebee cap? I put some real sprague bumblebee caps from the 50s in my guitar and there was a big difference in sound.

>>72967685
ew

>>72970475
Charvel spectrum

>>72973113
you got memed

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>>72972972
I blame the hifi cork sniffers for the fake chinese caps but yeah, anyone who pays more than 2c for a tone cap is a fucking idiot

>>72973113
>what is confirmation bias

help my agoustic gedarr

the two highest strings buzz like hell around the 7th fret, what should i do
would changing strings remedy this

>>72973175
Burn it and get ableton, this obviously isn't the hobby for you

>>72967875
play unplugged, faggot

>>72973133
charvel rectum

Hi /mu/. Im a young guy who is looking for help on learning how to play Ravens by mount eerie on Guitar. My main issue is the picking pattern. I dont even know where to begin. Same goes for "you swan go on" by the same artist. ACLAM is just such a beautiful record it inspired me to pick up a guitar and try to learn. I think the trick is just to practice everyday and enjoying fiddling with the instrument but if anyone has tips for these two songs id be very greatful seeing as i cannont find the tabs or pattern anywhere else online.

>>72973141
>>72973163
nah i'm just fucking with you guys. I did put in sprague vitamin q caps in my guitars though and did notice a difference, probably because of different values since they're so old. They were only like $3 each anyways.

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Anyone know how to get rid of this weird build up on the metal parts?

>>72972606
>steve vai
>virtuoso wanking
>worthwhile

>>72973251
Shit in your hand, then rub it on your chest

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>>72973275

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>>72973251
that's called mojo, it's desirable if you're a blues or classic rock guitarist. Otherwise just use some Nevr Dull

>>72973297
Propane torh should do, set it at max and point at tele.
Problem solved

>>72973226
Tl;dr

>>72973251
Ounce of prevention. Cum in a rag or a person like a normal human

>>72973251

They make all kinds of metal polishes. The finer the better. Otherwise, replace the parts maybe?

>>72973342
>>72973336

I figured it just needed polish, I was hoping for more of an explanation of what causes it, since it only showed up on this one.

>>72973374
It's Paul GIlbert.
He sneaks into your house every night and cums on your Tele metal parts, then leaves.
Ibanez pays him to do that

>>72973416
>>72973340

I only came on my tele twice, baka

>>72973416
That makes sense, they obviously don't pay for his relevance.

>>72972972
I steal all my parts.

>>72973175
Buy an acoustic worth more than a blowjob from your mom

>>72969115
Yeah dude, I love listening to really good creative bassists tear it up. Check out Jaco Pastorius if you want to hear someone play bass to its full potential. Dan Briggs of Between the Buried and Me is one of the most insane modern bassists; listen to his solo "Viridian" on their album "Colors". Matt Freeman's bass playing with Operation Ivy is really melodic and adds a different dimension to the band's sound.

I would recommend learning bass in conjunction with piano/keyboard; it seems the best bass players are also generally good composers who use piano as a writing tool to overcome some of the limits of bass, namely the fairly limited range of the bass and difficulty of playing chords on such thick strings. Well-rounded bass players who have good technique and are well-versed in theory are hard to come by and are that much more valuable for it.

>>72970940
Fender Rumble 200

>>72974857
Stanley clarke

>>72974957
Ah, for sure. Love his shit with Return to Forever ("The Magician" is my favorite track off of "Romantic Warrior", and he was the primary composer on it) and his collaborations with Jeff Beck.

I've really been into this guy Miles Mosley lately. He plays an upright but uses tons of effects like wah, fuzz, envelope filters, octave shit, etc.

>>72973275
best poster on gg

>>72974950
Second this.

>>72975006
Esperanza spalding. Tal wilkenfeld. I dont play bass just know some bassists. You like billy sheehan?

>>72975216
Not a huge Billy Sheehan fan, actually, probably for the same reasons that a lot of people don't like Steve Vai (who I happen to love). I like Esperanza Spalding, she's a great songwriter, and Tal is a very competent young musician with a lot of potential. If you like Sheehan, I recommend checking out Jonas Hellborg.

>>72975216
Also if you like Esperanza Spalding, give Miles Mosley a listen.

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>>72975321
People that dislike Vai are just trying to be contrarian. Ok i was curious because i know guitar players like sheehan but i didnt know what a bass player though of him. Another guy i like is pic related. You know him?

>>72975380
Yea ill take a listen to miles mosley when i get home from work

>>72975460
Not sure who that is. Btw I'm not a bass player, I'm a guitarist who just happens to know a lot of bass players. And I guess I can play bass competently but I'm much more experienced as a guitarist.

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>>72971825
Underrated af.

>>72975507
I see im in the same boat. Hes Dave LaRue. Watch joe satriani cool#9 live. He plays alot for satriani live. I believe satriani plays the bass in studio.

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>>72970475
Dipinto Galaxie looks pretty cool

>>72973374
>was hoping for more of an explanation of what causes it

your sweat and finger grease causes it and it just builds up over time.

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>>72967509
Yamaha Revstar
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha/Revstar-RS320-Electric-Guitar.gc

You'll have about $100 left over for a decent fuzz pedal.

>>72976107
Why do people shit on metal guitars for being one trick ponies but these guitars have an even narrower niche? Why do you guys even like these? Why not a regular strat or gretsch hollowbody? Why be such a special snowflake?

>>72968303
Celestions are the gold standard, and they are priced like it.
I switched to Eminence speakers. Just as good, and a hell of a lot cheaper.

>>72975610
Probably, Satriani's definitely capable or writing bass lines and performing them. Not as much of a Satriani fan though, he just sounds like a significantly less-interesting Steve Vai. I feel like Vai is just a better composer in general because he treats the guitar as just his particular instrument in the larger context of an ensemble, rather than the focal point to the exclusion of all else.

>>72976431
>>72976476
>>72977471
couldn't help but noticing how sad your life is

>>72967509
Get:

Gibson $500 guitar of your choice. They all sound the same so style is purely cosmetic.

Mexican Fender standard of your choice (HSS strat is the most versatile).

AVOID: Made in KOREA, INDONESIA, CHINA They make $150 guitars not $500 guitars. They throw gimmick paint job and artist name on it to jack up the price.

>>72977471
To each his own. I think satriani has a little more soul. Heres a nice vid of him with LaRue

https://youtu.be/qtlmunpBruQ

>>72967610
>https://stores.guitarcenter.com/englewood
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Schecter-Guitar-Research/Solo-6-Custom-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar-113105522.gc

This guitar retails at $900 new.

Thats the best deal in the store. And you have money for a pedal.

>>72977874
Satriani looks like such a douche. Eric Johnson will always be 100x better.

>>72977898
I don't know about that first bit, but I agree with you about Johnson 100%. His style is very much his own and he's a very versatile guitarist.

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>>72977819
Some korean guitars are decent. My dean i will never replace. I like how the neck is not like a goddamn ibanez wizard neck

>>72977914
I tend to find him boring. Eric johnson is a little too bland and major key for me. Hes a very competent and technically proficient guitarist but his style doesnt resonate with me

>>72978015
Watch this live performance, especially the minor blues he does around the halfway point. Dude's phrasing is unreal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZN7Une_0Ic&t=1511s

I actually feel like Satriani is the more boring player, just my opinion though. His tendency to play a lot of major and lydian-sounding melodies is why we have the term "Satrianicore" to describe bands like Polyphia or Chon that play these really linear, major-interval-heavy instrumental pieces that all kind of sound the same after a while.

I also just enjoy Johnson's tone more, the violin-like sound he gets from his Strat really suits his legato playing and gives him a very distinctive sound.

>>72978103
Idk. whatever johnson has to offer me i find it satisfied much better by jeff beck. Did you know tony mcalpine is gonna die soon.

>>72978337
I knew he had been dealing with cancer for a while, I think Vai and a bunch of guys on his label threw a benefit for him a few months back. Shame, great guitar player and underrated keyboardist.

I do enjoy Jeff Beck, although I think Johnson has a more intuitive command over jazz phrasing than Beck does. Beck's finger style playing doesn't sound as smooth to me, either. For that, I like to listen to Richie Kotzen.

>>72978378
I dont think youve heard enough beck then.

Satriani, Eric Johnson, Vai, etc. are all very overrated and up their own asses. Technically, I believe I could mop the floor with any of them and I'm just a bedroom guitarist who's been playing 7 years. Really, name ONE song by any of them that is actually difficult to play...?

The only reason they are even famous is because they were rich enough to spend 5,000 dollars on pedals and all have really big hands. The only true guitarists I can respect are ones like Jimmy Page who have mastered tone, song writing, and sound engineering at a godly level and don't just rely on "muh effects pedals" and "muh 3rd fret to 12th fret stretchy hands technique" to be good

>>72978378
And steven stevens is an immensely underrated guitar player along with dave kilminster

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>>72978449

>>72978463
Dude, I love Dave Kilminster. I saw him live when I was 16 when Roger Waters was doing his DSOTM tour and his musicianship absolutely floored me.

>>72978449
Not a huge fan of Satch. And I'll admit I kind of lost interest in Vai for a few years: after I'd been playing three years, I could tap, sweep, and knew a whole bunch of different minor scales so I could do a pretty good impression of his playing and nothing about him was super technically impressive to me after that. But think about the level of musicianship necessary to hang with a guy like Frank Zappa, or the discipline involved in composing for a full orchestra like on the second half of the "Sound Theories" album. After about a decade of playing guitar, those thoughts drew me back to Vai's work and the elements of his relationship to the guitar. He's one of the most endlessly creative musicians alive right now, and I think that he's just been trying to do as much as he can with his craft as possible. And clearly he doesn't care too much about what his detractors have to say about it. Dude is fucking Steve Vai, he can do whatever he wants.

>be trying to find a singer
>everyone is a fucking waste of space
>suddenly find a reasonably local ad
>two twin girls
>holy shit yes
>oh wait
>they ugly
>and fucking talentless

https://www.bandmix.co.uk/zoeandfiona/

is it impossible to play cleanly if your action is too high? my guitars neck is warped too fuck and i dont have any cash to get a proper set up.

>>72978828
costs nothing to learn how to do a setup yourself and there's no shortage of videos showing you exactly how to do it, quit whining, fix your guitar and learn to fucking play

>>72978850
you cant fix a warped neck by yourself retard

>>72978873
protip: when an inexperienced guitarist says the neck's warped, it actually isn't and the guitar just needs setting up

>>72978734
I saw him on the wall tour in l.a. he has good stuff with phil collins too.

>>72978873
unless the guitar is 40+ years old i highly doubt the neck is unfixable via trussrod adjustment.

This guy was just giving you a hard truth and encouragement to fix it yourself. but you dont seem to be the kind of person capable of teaching yourself things

>>72978923
>>72979000
the guitar neck leans forward a lot and the truss rod cant be tightened anymore. if that isnt warped then i dont know what it is then.lowering the bridge just makes the notes die at the upper frets.

>>72979036
is it a bolt on neck? might need a shim to change the angle

might also need lighter strings or tuning down a bit to let the neck recover some straightness

>>72979036
look up "how to set up electric guitar" on youtube and follow it closely, dont skip any steps. if you still are having problems with your neck then take it into a professional

>>72978933
Nice, I also saw him on the Wall tour in Chicago a few years ago. I know he was Steve Wilson's touring guitarist for a few months, hoping he gets the chance to do a solo album.

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How do you feel about Steve Stevens and his flamenco-meets-EVH style?

>>72967448
I like the look of Gretch guitars, are they that good?

anyone gigging this weekend lads?

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>>72979705
At a festival Friday and another festival Sunday in upstate new York.

What's the most pretentious guitar brand?
[spoiler]Is it a tie between Godin, PRS and Music Man?[/spoiler]

>>72976431
>Dipinto Galaxie
No they don't, they are just as good as a strat, but their whammy bar is what makes them different

>>72979000
>>72978923
Not that guy, but you need to kys

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>>72980749
>Godin

I did like the Godin RG-2, mainly for the inlaid outline of a pickguard they did on the top

>>72967875
I'm the same I just play unplugged practising the mundane shit and use headphones and a micro crush mini amp for when I actually wanna play cool shit

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>>72980789
>just as good as a strat
>another Jaguar copy

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any opinions on Jackson basses/guitars? just got this C5A about a month ago and everything feels and sounds great except for the tuners, they're the shit standard Jackson tuners and the feel flimsy as fuck but the neck is a super deep cut bolt so it can pretty much stop a fucking bullet. seriously i've thrown this tank down 2 flights of stairs for my bands promo video and the most it did was scratch the wire cover a little, seriously best gig bass i've ever owned.

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>>72981744
>my bands promo video

I bet that's really great. I mean, you'll probably get signed to a major label on the strength of that one youtube video shot on your phone.

>>72981775
>not on youtube
>not for any label
>shot with an actual film crew
>we had to make one for this competition at a music festival in my area, when you get into the finals you have to make a promo video for the people's choice voting, they also play it before you get on stage
but that's just like your opinion man

>>72981818
wow, sorry man, I didn't realize you were already such a big rock star

can I get your autograph?

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>tfw when it took me 20 years and dozens of guitars until i realized a Gibson™ Les Paul™ Standard™ does everything i need

Youre not poor, are you anon?

>>72981838
i'm not saying i'm anything, sorry big boy's cranky because he's too much of a pussy to take any musical opportunity in his life

>>72981862
I don't like the scale length on Les Pauls, makes for terrible tuning stability, other then that they're pretty much the godfather of guitars and anyone who calls themselves a musician should have one yes

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>>72981865
>take any musical opportunity

>>72981818
>competition at a music festival in my area

I bet you were a BIG hit at the town hootenanny. I bet you get asked to play at people's BBQs all over town now.

Congratulations son. You've made it. You're a STAR.

>>72976409

The Revstars are literally the best design since the SG.

Im probably buying the green one with the shield. So sexy.

>>72981838
>autistic anons trying to start flame wars on /mu/ for literally no reason
I bet you're a drummer aren't you anon :^)

>>72978780
Not ugly. You watch too much porn. Talentless? Didn't have audio

>>72981881

Never had a problem with them, im more suprised how good you can set them up coming from Stratocasters.

They even play better than them.

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>>72981889
Why are you so angry friend, I deadass have no idea what your problem is here
>"ZOMG TH1S RANDUM ANON ON /MU/ DID A THING THAT I ASSUME MEANS ANOTHER THING GOD HE MUST BE SO FAR UP HIS OWN ASS!!!!111!111"
>"I'LL SHOW HIM"
>*sips 4L bottle of 7up from costco*
>*cracks knuckles*
>*wipes raging sweat from brow*
>*takes an inhaler hit to steady furious rapid breathing*
>*kisses waifu pillow goodbye, not knowing if you'll make it back from this war in one piece*
>*shakes dried cum off keyboard*
>*rubs hate-fueled®™ sweaty hands together in anticipation*
>*takes deep suspenseful breath*
>*lays fingers on keys of doom*
>"these are my weapons"
>*begins typing*
>"ur band probably bad lel ur not gonna get famus kek xd"
>*pants uncontrollably from supreme roast that's just been exerted*
>"sure showed him"

>>72981927
hm yeah it's more of a preference thing, I prefer the fatter necks so I tend to stick to Gibsons

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>>72981927
>better
I went the other way, had LP's and sold them, went to upper level American Strats and never looked back and don't regret if for a second. That's not to mean they're bad, they just didn't do it for me anymore. I would like to have an LP Recording for the collection but big $$$.

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>>72982021
>>*takes an inhaler hit to steady furious rapid breathing*
I laughed

Can anyone tab out ravens by mount eerie for me

>>72978449
Have some respect, faggot. We stand on the shoulders of giants.

>>72982148

>he doesnt transcribe by ear since childhood

>>72978449

The only good thing Vai has done is the last solo in Break Like The Wind from Spinal Tap.

Thats it. The best thing hes ever done is a solo in a comedy band.

Let this sink in.

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>>72978780
You're right. It's not going to happen with them. With makeup they need to look at least as good as the NoFrills Twins.

>>72982021
wew lad

>>72979389
see
>>72978463

>>72980789
But it doesnt even have a mid single coil to give you the only reason anyone buys a strat. The 2nd and 4th toggle position.

>>72981900
Every single one I've played (about 25) was terrible. They look nice though

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>Guys, vote on which tele I should buy!

>>72981900
>the green one
I saw the dark green one at the shop. It's almost perfect. Take the neck from the left and pickups/guard from the right (pictured) for the complete package.

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>>72982687
They normally come with 4 pickups.

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>>72982339
get out with this tumblr meme shit, holy hell.

>>72982339
I might still answer the ad, convince them they can be famous if I get a twin blowjob from them

>>72982829
Minimum good looks for a chick to have in your band. The bar is lower for twins.

How do you know so much about tumblr? I thought it was just for fat feminists with blue hair.

>>72982762

You need to set them up, lol.

>>72982941
>The bar is lower for twins

this is true, just look at the fucking Olsens

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>>72982941
>How do you know so much about tumblr? I thought it was just for fat feminists with blue hair.
You don't have to visit tumblr to spot them
Also they just need a better haircut, that one doesn't suit them that much.

>>72979389
I like his playing far more than I do his wig and painted nails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5qlW1jt5Pw

>>72982950
We did. They all sounded like shit and half of them needed fretwork. Sent them all back to Yamaha.

Can you fine people recommend me things that would "spice up" my playing? I am stuck playing the same things over and over, and I want to start playing more interesting things. Thanks in advance.

>>72983214
That's a shame because the yt demos had me thinking the quality was there.

>>72982803
Interesting but seems unnecessary

>>72983306
Listen to different music. Particularly music you dont like. Not rap tho.

>>72983306
learn to play slide guitar in standard tuning and copy vocal lines

really difficult to control the open strings and pick out a melody accurately but it's a surprisingly useful skill to have

>>72979389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg6sl2DXkOU

>>72983306
learn indian guitar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA5UWHFg-SE

>>72983483
>indian guitar
>take it out in the street and shit on it

>>72983488
nice one, I also visit /pol/

>>72983483
that legit looks quite cool. I can tell that Steve Vai took some inspiration from this kind of music, and incorporated it into some of his songs.

>>72983307
That's why we had ordered some, but it was a real disappointment.

The guitars all had a choked nasally sound in the middle and bridge positions, and the neck was muddy. The "dry switch" probably has something to do with the terrible sounding electronics, but I don't know for sure.

The necks felt pretty nice, between a 60s and 59 Gibson neck as far as size goes. Fretboards were dry and gross feeling, and the aforementioned fret problems just made a few of them unplayable.

I don't think we just happened to get 25 lemons.

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What the FUCK is a 'Shawbucker' and how does it compare to a 'Fender designed wide range humbucker'

I've read lots of shit about neither of them being real humbuckers and loads of conflicting opinions

I just want a humbucker, mang

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>not playing the literal mothership of electric guitars

>>72983839

>humbuckers on neck when the only thing a tele needs is one on the BRIDGE replacing the shitty noisy single coil

Whoever EVER made this design decision wasnt a player. The point of the SC/HB combo is high crisp output on the bridge while being warm at bridge.

>>72983888
I know right?! Why do 99% of teles have the humbucker in the neck?! Who the fuck?!

>>72983888
I like the bridge single coil
Humbucker in neck always sound so boring though.

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>>72983888
Nah the best part about the tele is the twangy bridge pickup, that's what it's known for. A humbucker in the neck is the complete opposite, makes it a versatile as fuck guitar. It's the most patrician setup. humbucker in the bridge is metalfag shit.

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https://clyp.it/vcdav4po

>>72983839
Shaw bucker is humbucker designed by tim shaw. Its more voiced like a single coil. Im gonna pick up an hss strat with it soon. But i will probably replace it with my suhr aldrich humbucker

>>72983979
How will a Shawbucker handle muh gainz? I just want to be able to push the distortion past 3 without it going SQUEEEEEEEEEEE

>>72983952
You had it right until the end

>>72983952
I saw a metal band where one of the two guitarists used a tele on one song out of their set.
It did work out alright, even when the other guitarist wasn't riffing.

>>72984001
It wont be noisy but i do believe it will be a little less round and warm.

>>72984001
Why dont you look at appropriate pickups?
>>72984030
Alot of metal guitarists use teles. Blame john 5.

>>72984057
You mean like humbuckers x

>>72984032
Interesting. It's annoying, because I want a Tele, but their American range seems to only have Shabuckers if you're wanting humbuckers, so all that's available is their cheaper Deluxe range with "wide-range humbuckers"

I'd make a custom build on Halo if I could be confident in their quality

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>>72978780
lemme sing for u daddy :3

>>72984057
I mean an actual tele, butterscotch and full single coil not some dual humbucker one. Which is why it was surprising.

>>72984057
More like blame Joe Duplantier. He is the MAIN reason why teles are even considered on a metal setting. He doesn't cheat like John 5 by putting humbuckers on his tele. Joe Duplantier straight up plays single coils, and we all know Gojira is one of the best metal bands at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xUoOaHzk5s&t=163s

>>72978828
this >>72978850 but its possible to play cleanly on a high action it just takes getting used to it

>bought a cheap beginner double bass
>played for two hours, had a blast
>now have fuck huge blisters
shit
now what lads

>>72984350
This isn't for you

>>72984303
>we all know Gojira is one of the best metal bands at the moment.
nice joke

>>72984366
:(

>>72984386
Listen to this song then come back and tell me that Gojira ain't one of the greatest metal bands at least for the last decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-XaaTqOICU

Also, I am quite interested in knowing which band you think is as good or better than Gojira. Not flaming, just curious.

dont reply to tourists

>>72984452
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the abherrant turd Magma was.

>>72984579
I guess I am in the minority that enjoys Magma. Not gonna lie, I don't like Magma as much as I like their previous albums. However, it gave us Silvera, The Cell, and Pray, so I can't really complain.

I've a silly question for you.
Is panning the spectrum of a guitar something that people do? (like putting the bass in one place, the high frequency in another, etc.)

I'm listening to this band, Bölzer, and they only have one guitarist in the band (no bassist), yet, the sound is huge, it's all over the place.

>>72984128
I mean appropriate for the genre you want to play. Get hi output for gains.

>>72984350
Keep going until pain turns into skill

>>72984750
I like the high output I get from my Les Paul copy but I hate the feel of playing a Les Paul and much of its design. I played a Tele, and loved the fuck out of it, so I want a Tele with humbuckers. Fuck getting a Gibson, and Strats feel cheap to me for baised reasons so a humbucker tele is what I'm going for.

I could get a Tele Deluxe and replace the pickups but fuck, there are so many pickups to choose from I don't even know where to start

>>72984796
Easy
You like the gibson LP sound ? Get their pickups.
It's as simple as that.

What are the best $250-300 acoustic guitars?

>>72984796
I feel youre too caught up in trying to look a certain way. Start off basic and standard with like seymour duncan jbs

>>72984960
I'm not fussed on how it looks, I just seriously don't like the feel of a Les Paul after playing one for 4 years or a strat after 10, and love the feel of a Tele. It could be pink and shaped like an enormous penis if it was comfortable to play and sounded decent

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whats a pick that sound like the fenders but dont break as easily?

>>72984796
maybe a paf type pickup?
maybe a duncan 59, with a 250k pot to sound proper

>>72985169
I'm a big proponent of the Gibson M picks, but I can only find listings for them online where they come in those little tins, and I already have 3 of those and don't want any more

Yeah I'm reading up on Gibson pickups now, it's a bit of a mine-field. I want a nice, big, controlled distorted sound like (just as an example) American Idiot [obviously a lot of the sound of that album is production, but something -like- that)
I could also go for something a bit more vintage sounding like The Police, but I'm leaning more towards a modern sound honestly
I know I don't want active pickups because in my experience they're pretty gash

>>72985169
You mean 500k

>>72985264
american idiot was recorded with a les paul jr, with p90 pickup´
i suggest to get a duncan JB or some hot p90

>>72985407
no, 250k cause the 59 can be too bright and teles are bright themselves
or get like a gibson 57 thats not so bright

>>72985458
Then you mean 500k. Youre confusing the 2. Humbuckers dont sound good with 250k. They sound thin and bright.

>>72985458
I have an Epi LPJ which is absolutely pants and sounds like shit. P90s confuse me because like they're single coils, right? How do they get such a controlled sound out of single coils? I'm really interested in the actual bucking of the hum and quelling of the feedback afforded by humbuckers

>>72985476
youre confusing
less k's filters more treble
single coils sound too bright with 500k and are usually used with 250k pots
buckers are naturally muddier and are usually used with 500k (gibson been using 300k lately for some reason)

>>72967755
Zappa loved Pignose amps, and they're great amps in the studio when you have them dialed in right.

do people pick with just a tiny tip of the pick, when picking it 90º to the strings? i.e. not slanted

been trying to learn thumbpicking, and realized i was slanted picking with it, so i started doing it square angle to the strings to get more attack and punch, but it was a though physical resistance and i can't sweep picking stuff like vid below that way, so i noticed i was picking with a huge amount of the pick, thats probably "wrong" and i should practice hitting with just the tip of the pick. is that right, is that why i'm having this problem? thinkin thats also why i break regular picks often

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDRDE8ViFg

>>72985557
probably compression would do that with single coils

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>>72985716
forgot pic

>>72985716
I play with picks on electric guitar only, and some electric songs I play with my thumb and index fingerpicking style.

>>72984733
According to some interviews he splits his signal in two, I think that might be more important to get the same sound. Inquisition does the same, back when I saw them live the guitarist had one 6x10 on the scene he was using, no clue what run through it.
Also his 10 string probably plays a big part in his sound.

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>>72984001
I've got a Shawbucker in my pimped up partscaster, it's an excellent low output humbucker but if you really want a humbucker that's voiced to work well with single coils then I would recommend ...

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>>72985769
... a Baby 71 from The Creamery, reproduction of the tone of a Wide Range humbucker. Like I have in my other partscaster.

Guys, where do you get guitar tabs?
I can't find anything worthwhile, everything is tabbed for electric guitars, I just want to find tabs made for fingerpicking.

>>72971825
>p90s

DROPPED
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I bet you'll nerds don't even divebomb
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0t5OxgsKonn

>>72986064
You fucking suck. Have fun with your licensed floyd.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AE44IIPTBKF

whats up with this guitar

>>72986175
lmao I only fuck with the finest Kahler Tremolo Systems
Obviously you know nothing about flicking a sick nasty divebomb because that shit was straight fire

How do you guys warm up?

https://youtu.be/95GMQNc-XrM

>>72986370
Lol kahlers suck.

>>72970940
Rumble 100

>>72986456
getting this printed on a t-shirt now

>>72986684
>You have to push it all the way back down to get it in tune again

so turns out the last guy to own my Hot Rod Deluxe took out the 6L6's and put in EL34's even though the grid resistors and the bias weren't correct for them.

should i just put 6L6's back? i guess i'd have to change a bunch of shit to keep the EL34's

>>72986414
a quick wank

>>72986749
>should i just put 6L6's back?

Yes, you should do that immediately. The grid resistors aren't critical but with the bias set too low you run a chance of the amp drawing too much anode current and blowing the HT fuse.

Whoever swapped the tubes without changing the bias is a fucking idiot.

>>72986806
well the filter caps were fucked so the guy obviously didn't give a shit or know anything about the amp (not that i do either but i at least wouldn't go fucking around with it)

do you think with the bias set higher the HRD would sound good with EL-34s? I know they're used for marshalls a lot. idk why this guy changed them in the first place

>>72986749
grid stops just kill noise, blocking, and rf.

If they bias up and the extra filament doesn't take the secondary of the PT, you're good to go I guess.

>>72986896
sorry i don't know what any of this means. what's the secondary of the PT?

and are you saying the grid resistor being wrong doesn't matter?

>>72986860
Amps always sound better with EL34s, properly biased. Well, that's my opinion anyway.

The problem with EL34s in Fender amps is the bias circuit for 6L6 tubes is designed to supply around -37 Volts and can't supply the -45 Volts needed for EL34s. People tend to turn the pot as far as it can go, then leave it around -40V but that's not a great idea either. The tubes will run hot and there's less current limiting resistance before the grids. Most of the time the bias is generated from a winding on the HT transformer so it's difficult to upgrade without fitting a small bias transformer. If you seriously want EL34s in your amp then that's the "pro" option. Otherwise, set it back to stock 6L6s. Because the average guitar player doesn't know enough about tube amps to modify them.

>>72986976
>>72986976
>>72986976

>>72986896
>A wild ill-informed idiot appears

We're not talking about grid stoppers, we're talking about the HT dropping resistors for the screen grid.

>If they bias up

bias down, just saying

>and the extra filament

There is no extra filemant you moron. I'm guessing you copied that from some website about fitting an extra gain stage.

> doesn't take the secondary of the PT

How does an extra heater "take" the PT secondary?

You don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. So hush now, grownups are speaking.

>>72986935
>Amps always sound better with EL34s, properly biased. Well, that's my opinion anyway.

What's the difference, tone-wise? I've heard it's less clean

>>72986925
The filament side of the power transformer. 34s take 1.5a where as 6l6s take .9a. So that's a good amount of extra 6.3v. Sometimes a manufacturer will tell you it's cool, and other times guys just go for it. I don't know of an easy way of testing other than maybe feeling if the iron gets hot.

Grid resistors help amplifier stability, but there's a pretty good range of working values. They're in the way of the bias so obviously you need to make sure the tubes aren't pulling too much current.

>>72987038
If you listen to a loud clean Marshall and a loud clean Fender the difference is obvious immediately. The EL34s just seem to have a bit more blast to them, especially if you use really good tubes like Winged C's.

Incidentally, if you've got EL34s in a Fender amp and the bias is wrong then switch the amp on and have a good look at the tubes. Look for signs of the internal grids lighting up orange (not the central heater, look at the the spiral wires surrounding the cathodes). If the grids are glowing, turn the amp off and fit 6L6s. And if you see the anode plates lighting up after a few seconds or minutes then that's another indication the bias is wrong.

Red plating - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SfJJ8A8XNM

Can't find any video or images of grid glowing but you should only see one glowing orange element per tube, if there's more then the amp's underbiased and drawing too much HT current.

>>72987170
oh it's definitely underbiased. i was just wondering what the difference is tone-wise

i think i'm just going to switch back to 6L6's. don't wanna go through the trouble

>>72987149
>I don't know of an easy way of testing

How about a fucking multimeter set to measure current you fucking moron?

Seriously, stop talking about shit you don't understand. Stop trying to quote shit you half-remember from other websites.

>>72987235
lol this spurge

I'm going to have you come over and test transformer coil VA with a multimeter.

>>72967875
does your school have music practice rooms? go play guitar in there

>>72987541
>School