Plagiarism in Music

Men at Work got their asses sued off for Down Under

Fleetwood Mac's Edge of Seventeen stole the intro from The Police's Bring on the Night

The bass riff in Ride's Seagull is quite literally the same from The Beatles' Taxman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8twlaPM-_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svgRdLHNJIQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7DrIWcrdI

Stone Temple Pilots song sex type thing has literally the same riff as Danzig's Snakes of Christ

Zelda fans will hear it. This came out in 1976.
https://youtu.be/mk4EisAyX7I

>>72883334
Cigarettes and Alcohol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0LZcpSiE6s

>>72884537
speaking of zelda
https://youtu.be/1MXVokm2Qvw?t=46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNilsLf6eW4

>>72884555
NES Zelda dungeon theme at 03:10
https://youtu.be/jUcHKQ4G1vo

What's the difference between plagiarizing and sampling

>>72884626
are you retarded?

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7:45 is Batman: The Animated Series

https://youtu.be/VMw0EjLFPXw

Stolen riff:
https://youtu.be/I-QaFWURsMU

Original riff at 02:22:
https://youtu.be/4_rYk_aJbcQ

>>72884659
Holy plagiarism, Batman!

A lesser known one of the many Oasis rips is that Champagne Supernova is a riff on the Kinks' Lola

>>72884649
great addition to the question faggot
>>72884626
there is no difference, you just either gotta pay the original artist or flip it so its "unrecognizable" or use bits that can be argued to be original.

there lots of grey area but realistically, sampling is plagiarism.

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Led Zeppelin's entire career

>>72884626
sampling takes no skill

Einstürzende Neubauten claims that Depeche Mode took a sample from the studio by them. I don't remember the song

>>72884697
>Ripping off Death
Make this a cardinal sin. Schuldiner deserves better than this.

>>72884867
but plagiarising does?

no skill is required to spot a half second of audio that can be turned into a whole new song?

retuning? chopping? cleaning? mixing?

if it takes no skill why dont you just shit out a professional mix sampling some old track and make a hit

Kid Cudi's Flight at First Sight ripped off Shabazz Palaces' An Echo from the Hosts that Profess Infinitum

It might be coincidental, though. It just sounds like it to me.

>>72883342
Who did they steal?

>>72884626
Sampling is directly using an audio clip, plagarizing is imitating a musical idea from another song.

i remember being a teen and realizing From First to Last jacked Mastodon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsd1iCEIPU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av-mJ8RFuFU

>>72884903
Should also note that plagiarism only occurs if the original source isn't cited.

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tfw the Foo Fighters stole the god of metal's undisputed best riff and got literally zero shit for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkysjcs5vFU

riff starts at around 1:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_YlZ1JdcVk

>>72884929
Definitions don't matter to ppl who are trying to discredit hip hop and electronic music so they'll just skip over this post

>>72884858

Led Zeppelin took 2/10 songs and made them like 4/10!

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>>72883334
Reminder that Killing Joke dropped the suit when Kurt Cobain died. And then Dave Grohl sat on the drum stool for Killing Joke on their 2003 s/t album which is one of their best and revitalised their career.

All is right with the world.

Sean Paul steals a lot of music

>>72883334
But The Damned probably "stole" it from The Kinks or someone, who maybe robbed a Muddy Waters riff, who could have mugged some field recording artist's ditty, who heard a bird singing in a fucking tree or something.

It's pretty obvious once you hit play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZaSgnYLceQ

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https://youtu.be/yERildSsWxM?t=76
https://youtu.be/jcFKlEfu_eU?t=25

>>72884626
Sampling credits whoever they took the audio from and isn't trying to pass it off as their own thing.

>>72885524

http://ontheaside.com/uncategorized/10-artists-who-were-sued-for-unauthorized-samples/

>>72884733
Is every Oasis song just a rework a a British Invasion band's song? Only one I like that I don't think is a rip I'd Live Forever.

Don't know if it could count as plagiarism however one of the songs from Killer Instinct is extremely similar to a song from Tetsuo the Iron Man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxvzqwgoQb4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09UAzg3Ualc

After ripping of Nirvana, the guy from Seether has an apparently graduated to ripping off everyone else
>http://substreammagazine.com/2015/04/did-seether-intentionally-rip-off-brand-news-daisy-for-their-new-single/
>http://www.metalsucks.net/2017/05/15/did-seether-rip-off-tool/
>http://www.rock108.com/james-patrick/2017/03/03/did-seether-rip-off-chevelle-and-live
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/290z7m/seether_completely_rip_off_mad_world_and_brand/
>http://za24h.com/story/celebrities/277680/seethers-new-song-let-you-down-similar-chevelles-take-out-gunman.html

>>72883376

Not similar at all and they came out within months of each other..

>>72885662
Considering Nirvana's entire career was made ripping off the Pixies, I guess you could you say they're just paying it forward.

>>72885135
This

>>72885524
see >>72884903

>>72885698
See
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>>72884537
makes me wanna play a zelda game desu

>>72884626
1.) Plagiarism is taking an idea directly from someone else, executing it yourself so that it seems like your idea, and giving yourself credit for it (or not giving the original person credit for it.)
2.) Sampling is usually defined by taking bits and pieces directly from the original work, not replicating, and incorporating it into your own work so that it serves an almost entirely different purpose.

So sampling is kind of like adding 'sprinkles' to your already finished song, while plagiarizing is basically just covering a song without telling anyone it's a cover.

>>72885135
Speaking of The Kinks, plagiarism can't get more blatantly obvious than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7encWb7lNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eebfMFzJHNs

>>72885752
You can sample something and rerecord it instead of using the original track

Can someone post the one where Swans virtually copied the riff from Oxygen from another artist?

I don't remember who the other artist and, quite frankly, I don't care. They stole it but made it 100x better, so they get a pass.

>>72885823
I think you're thinking of Glenn Branca

Either way though Oxygen is at least original enough in comparison, and regardless the album version is what came from the acoustic song that Gira had as a solo thing for a while already so it's not like it was written to copy Branca

>>72884849
>faggot
Hi /b/. Come back when you're 18+

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>>72886048
???


I think you might be in the wrong thread

>>72885767
Perfect example. It's the bird in the tree that's been ripped off here.

>>72884537
>>72884555
>>72884619
>>72885748
speaking of the legend of zelda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_tnOXSxVis

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiIlcew-GVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v2GDbEmjGE

>>72883334
this song used to make me weep haha
I don't really think it sounds like come as you are though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RmMry47MCg

>>72885216
this can't be real holy shit

>>72885216
Top kek
>these comments

>>72884896
They used the nursery rhyme 'kookaburra sits in the old gum tree' in the flute bit which was owned by some twat record company that sued them

>>72883370
It is also very similar to a jam song

>>72885073
>sat on the drum stool
Cringe

>>72887665
To be fair they thought it was public domain or traditional, and they (and the Australian public) were unpleasantly surprised that it was not. The rights owners were twats, though.

As an artist myself, this is too much. I can't support music anymore. I guess I'll just have to find a new artform to appreciate.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r26krlXFmOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg

>>72883334
Strawberries is GOAT

Ed rush and opticals chubrub

https://youtu.be/r6QR8A9_iFU

Noisia and the upbeats Dustup

https://youtu.be/JnhjWUepaE8


It's the same in sense of synths and the beat progression

>>72885277
fight test is the far superior song desu

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Maynard James Keenan directly ripped off Michael Gira

Kennan (2007)
https://youtu.be/o-IW37Onb1Q

Gira (1997)
https://youtu.be/IUWP1sEdgJ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFRkpvvop3I
(3:34)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zGcUoRlhmw

At least the fray got a shit ton of royalties for that one

Phantom of the Opera plagiarised a part of Pink Floyd's Echoes.

>>72884626
The venn diagram of plagiarism and sampling has overlap but not all sampling is plagiarism. Its perfectly possible to take audio from other sources and use them to make entirely new compositions.

Coldplay using Kraftwerk's "Computer Love" for their single "Talk"

>>72884858
this

There's a dutch dub producer who released a load of music in midi format, Skream took at least one of his tracks, slapped some vst presets in, and released it under his name.

megadeth stole a riff from riblja corba
https://youtu.be/wYGDLtlSCms
is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6LL5iA6y9o

intro riff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHMy6V5Qjc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0SrxSMHDmE

>>72892872
>Brazilian bands
it's happened before where bands have a riff similar to some Brazilian artist

it happened to Sabbath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOnciH5Sy08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7HfCXQSPVY

it was pure coincidence and both parties have been flabbergasted on the similarities of the song

>>72893250
>some Brazilian artist
lol no it's the most famous serbian band but whatever

that one sounds too much the same

>>72883334
I always wondered if the riff in Faith No More's A Small Victory was based on Helicopter by XTC. I know Mike's a fan of Cardiacs and Oingo Boingo, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was an XTC fan as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO8y5nKSr0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4AlYVFC4RM

https://youtu.be/3L3lGwOyYoo
https://youtu.be/3j8ecF8Wt4E

For some reason around the time of their self-titled Blur had a habit of ripping off Bowie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BkbmQnau7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMhFyWEMlD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tt5wLujYQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWGXagA1MI

>>72893316
didn't mean some as to imply there where some second-rate musicians board-lining on the fridges of obscurity

but rather i used the word "some" as plural for multiple Brazilians artists

>>72893563
ok I'm just saying riblja corba is serbian

>>72893574
>>72893574
lel fooking slavs tricked me thought that said cordoba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hv7ticWWKY

Karma by Pharoh sanders is just a love supreme

>>72893629
lmao
it meands 'fish soup'
yeah that song is one of their biggest hits
they used to be my favorite band until I got internet connection lol
i still love them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFOYEl3ZGwI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB388dRtkwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czPZ3YbnTpY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvncyMqXrdU (1997)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPlURQI0bcc (2002)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIm4yfhlKUQ(2001)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxjmFCzW2rE (2002)

>>72884659
thought it's gonna be na na na na n a na na n a

LCD Soundsystem did this a bit, largely I think as homages rather than stealing though. Here's one I don't see mentioned a lot though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ2np7R-Uwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JdWayrLXUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoyEVTN_h9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyNc3wkJL1Y

>>72893677
hence the fish bone logo... thanks for the dubs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S3fpgrZ9ys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U3rY3fZ5vU
WINDMILL WINDMILL FOR THE LAND

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>>72893860
yeah and the ribs part is pic related since the frontman is a patriot

Rod Stewart had to settle with Jorge Ben for basically ripping of Taj Mahal on Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hphwfq1wLJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xFKwH-EwI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZteS4MV18
https://youtu.be/0Z4cLmbw6q0?t=27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvODHnpKf8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mri3NQNFadA

https://youtu.be/WJW_ldC7sUA
https://youtu.be/TaXqU7hVVhI

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>>72886091
Sorry no one fell for your bait, here's a (you).

Radiohead's b-side Kinetic stole the drums from Miles Runs the Voodoo Down

>>72884951
Was gonna post this.

>>72893988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_XBXtkd76k
He also nicked the strings from this Bobby Womack song, but got away with it because it was the arrangement of the song which isn't copyrightable

>>72883334
Marty Mcfly got cucked pretty hard by chuck berry over Johnny B. Goode

>>72884858
They made Houses of the Holy without any plagiarism but yes, it was out of hand.

>>72893860
>what are homages and running gags in the metal community

Learn what a ripoff really is before posting your tripe kid.


UP THE IRONS \m/\m/

>>72884951
Pretty forgettable foo fighter song. Probably why no one noticed.

that one song from deathconciousness that sounds like Rude box from Robin Williams

>>72894849
Gonna need to back this up if it's true because I can't find anything on it

Coldplay were sued by joe satriani for viva la vida and settled out of court

>>72894957
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>>72895120
Settlement is attorney language for bribe dumbass

>>72895221
NO! NONONONONONONONOONNONONO! SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU KNOW NOTHING!

NOTHING!

YOU KNOW NOT A FUCKING THING SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DIE BITCH! I'LL END YOU MOTHER FUCKER!

>>72885823
Speaking of Swans, Filth is basically an entire album of them ripping off this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf6W9TMol6U

>>72887981
I recommend pottery.

It's a financially secure market where you can incorporate your art into things people actually need and thus will pay money for.
Most other forms of art will either leave you broke or make you sell your soul. Pottery is a happy medium.

>>72890786
The Skin album with Everything At Once was released in 1988. 1997 brought the reissue paired with Children of God.

>>72884858
All of the Delta Blues artists plagiarized eachother. All of them. So to criticize Led Zeppelin for taking song ideas from blues artists is retarded, even though they often did.

>>72895318
There's hardly any resemblance. If Filth had nothing but Big Strong Boss, your claim might have some merit.

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Laika by Arcade Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlRfZABWgK4

That accordion bit is a straight rip of The Squires(early Neil Young band) song The Sultan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccy0DygxjvM

>>72895318
heh not really this is more like standard noise rock and filth has that industrial edge

ITT: delet

A member of The Beach Boys stole a song from Charles fucking Manson.

I told them [the girls] about our involvement with the Maharishi and they told me they too had a guru, a guy named Charlie who'd recently come out of jail after 12 years. ... He drifted into crime, but when I met him I found he had great musical ideas. We're writing together now. He's dumb, in some ways, but I accept his approach and have [learned] from him.[11]

- Dennis Wilson.

>>72896967
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Learn_Not_to_Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffRhBDVmrCo

>>72884537
Japanese videogame composers are the most shameless plagiarists out there.

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Did anyone else notice a very similar sound between Daft Punk's Make Love and Katy Perry's Last Friday Night? And what is interpolation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeZG0viNAjM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDb0d3-qGaA

>>72897025
I'm a fan of country teasars, what are you trying to say?

The tune to "Tongue Tied", the massively popular song by Grouplove was stolen from Portugal. The Man's song 1000 years (it's around the chorus that the exact melody plays).

Remember that Grouplove toured with Portugal The Man so they obviously heard the song.

>>72895318
Did you post the wrong song or something? This isn't at all what Filth sounds like.

>>72885677
Why is the pixies meme repeated by every contrarian who doesn't like Nirvana?
inb4
>Kurt Cobain said it himself

I'd give you SLTS, and even that is a stretch.

>>72883334
What Nirvana song?

>>72898004
Maybe Lithium but that's all really

>ctrl-f
>no will.i.am
>no the weeknd
cmon guys

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2013/04/24/will-i-am-admits-stealing-song-accidentally/#ca3ca8e4f72d
will.i.steal - let's go @ 0:00: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV6W6_PUj0E
arty & mat zo - rebound @ 1:00: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQhVmnNmxk

http://www.stereogum.com/1679691/portisheads-geoff-barrow-produces-new-evidence-in-sampling-feud-with-the-weeknd/wheres-the-beef/

Not sure how much of this is just (heavy) sampling or stealing but here's another thing that pissed me off from The Weeknd's Kissland:

The Weeknd - Professional @ 2:40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJPLBUz3YVs
is literally just using Emika - Professional Loving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxXS6WbO1HY

Literally lost all my respect for those two.

I thought it was funny when The Turtles sued fucking De La Soul I think or one of the early hip hop acts for a sample they used, won, and ruined sampling in hip hop until DJ Shadow came along and fixed it all

The Mario underground theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOFlsEBkPxs

Hardstyle fans will love this one:

Scooter - The Epic Hardstyle Rippers (Compilation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iruwYeOtro

>>72894672
>They made Houses of the Holy without any plagiarism
and it's their best album

>>72895593
>All of the Delta Blues artists plagiarized eachother.
Not really. Blues artists from the 1930s borrowed things from other songs, but it wasn't plagiarism in the way that most people mean it. For the most part, those blue guys were all pretty open about their influences, and if something was being copied, it would have been understood by everyone as an homage. The artists themselves also weren't really in charge of who was getting credit for a song. No one was intentionally ripping off other people's work and taking credit for it. Led Zeppelin did. They took melodies and lyrics from recordings they enjoyed, and deliberately didn't credit the original artists.

Funky Town was stolen from Joy Division

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9bBLR1bPkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36eQwgPNSE

The Lion Sleeps Tonight has a pretty interesting story behind it.

The melody came from a song called Mbube by a South African artist (Solomon Linda) who recorded it in the 1930s. In the early 1950s, Pete Seeger heard the song and recorded a cover that didn't credit Linda because he thought it was traditional. When he found out it wasn't, he sent a bunch of money to the Linda and told his record company to credit him. They didn't, and eventually, Seeger's version became a folk standard that everyone thought was a traditional song. Eventually, some record producers arranged a pop version that became "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," and didn't credit anyone for it. Years later, and after a messy lawsuit, it was finally acknowledged as a cover, but Linda's family still barely gets anything for it.

>>72884919
Not even fucking close

>>72884626
>>72884849
Oh yeah Kanye plagiarized counter strike by using the grenade sound effect in ultralight beam

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d4_6N-k5VS4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oKsxPW6i3pM

>>72885092
examples plox

>>72898330
Don't forget the other example, where that dickhead who made "Alone Again, Naturally" sued Biz Markie.
US copyright laws are ass.

>>72892774
they asked for permission

they did rip off Kate Bush though

>>72892980
>Bathory - Necromancer

Fucking Johnny Cash..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdCtc1WE3E0

>>72898265
Yeah, I don't really respect The Weeknd after learning that he completely bailed on his producers (who made the mixtapes so unique) at the first sight of success in favor his butt buddy Drake. He doesn't even write his own music now.

Humble mongolian tracker musician getting ripped off by Nelly Furtado/Timbaland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtUVC11ba4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asy6Cpbtwfs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIEijimuzr8