NEW BURIAL
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/subtemple
sounds pretty good to me
any1 has links of download yet?
probably will grab the wax but i need to listen it at true 320 first :/
Tracklisting:
1. Subtemple (07:23)
2. Beachfires (09:50)
Young Death / Nightmarket was fucking shit.
I hope to god this is better.
It's like the intros to his songs made into 2 full length tracks. eh.
wow, this is shit. it's completely beatless, with crappy vocals and clock winding sounds. it's not even good ambient, like 36, gas, loscil etc... just found noises without any sense of melody/atmosphere/etc... he used to nail this stuff back in his early work, but burial has completely lost it at this point.
wow this is.......not good. at all.
and i say that as a will bevan apologist.
fucking lmao.
do yourselves a favour.
>>72867496
WHAT THE FUCK!
I finished listening to it. Young Death / Nightmarket was shit but at least it had something going on. These two songs are beyond lifeless. Young Death was Soundcloud-tier shit but this is just a pure mistake. Did he make this with a Chromebook?
so lets recap:
will hasn't released anything of value since Kindred in 2012. That's 5 years now he has been releasing sub-500 followers soundcloud-tier music, with all the ridiculous unwarranted hype that surrounds it. during this time, we've had tranny step, trancecore-ripoffs, butcher job of a goldie classic, the worst collab in the history of mankind with melon zomby, shitemarkets, and now 2 generic ambient tunes that you forget about the moment they finished.
ffs will, what the hell happened in your life to fall off the cliff like this?
>>72867602
truant/rough sleeper was good tho tb h
>>72867615
agreed senpai
Is this shit a joke?
here you all go, to save yourself paying money for this shite https://mega.nz/#F!XVlWiLSL!HaU1Io-LHbHwj9zWhRmvYg
>>72867602
rival dealer fucking bangs famalamb
>Burial returns to Hyperdub for a surprise two tracker of ghost hardware urban ambience and Metal Gear Solid garage. Here we find our hero returning to the rain-soaked South London boroughs from which his one-of-a-kind sound first came to fruition. Subtemple / Beachfires is sure to be William Bevan's most widely praised recording since we all fell under the angelic garage spell of Untrue, a decade ago.
On the A-Side, Subtemple deploys the inner workings of the Keysound classic 'Temple Sleeper', yet where that track spun off into a trance-inducing hardcore number, Subtemple steps deeper into the mix and comes through the other side of the dawn with echoes of the eternal classic 'Pirates' resonating through the spectral gloom, perfectly topped off with a filtered snatch of an old R&B white label dripping through the ceiling from the flat above.
On the B, Beachfires sets its way down a path of blurred memories from the rave a decade before, a howling wind blows out the last flick of the night's clipper while a rumbling bassline builds with momentum like the last night tube rumbling to a stop while you try and draw the last toke before descending down into the darkness. The end result is possibly the most vivid auto counterpoint to Burial's semi-imagined nighttime world yet.
Say what you like, but honestly, we don't really need to spell out just how good this one is.
This is from Bleep, are they trolling?
is it really THAT bad goys? i liked young death/nightmarket
>>72867561
very good vibrations, i listen to sleep research facility everyday
>>72867602
Truant Rough Sleeper was good and so was half of Come down to us
But ever since then he's only released shit
Well that was garbage.
It did make me want to listen to The Coldest Season again though, so that's pretty cool I guess.
>>72867667
Or...just click on OP's link
>>72867684
There's literally nothing to it
>>72867724
>Or...just click on OP's link
£2 is too much for a download of this shite
The second track is some decent ambient stuff, but not something i want when i hear the name Burial for fucks sake
>>72867735
Why would you want to download shite in the first place? Stream it, identify it as shite, and then walk away.
>>72867748
autism has no bounds. gotta catalog it.
I'm going to pretend I enjoy this
Looks like my taste is more sophisticated than yours once again
>>72867735
You don't have to download it to listen to it on bandcamp you mouthbreather
did you like Songs of Innocence?
>>72867721
is burial tsundere towards dub techno?
>>72867753
Anon, the archive is dead. No use in cataloging anything anymore
>>72867761
because a 96kbps bandcamp stream sounds like ass. it makes a bad burial record sound even worse.
>in b4 muh vinyl crackles
>>72867761
>reading comprehension
>>72867777
He's implying that by clicking on OP's link you have to pay 2 bucks to listen to it, which isn't worth it. But that's not true at all as you can just stream it
>Burial keeps making new tunes that the pards can't understand
good shit will
Burial hasn't come very far in 10 years kek. Think about how AFX progressed from 1991 to 2001, then think about Burial from 2007 to 2017.
What happened to our guy, fampai?
>>72867772
no it's not anon
>>72867810
Yeah, but I didn't say "listen" did I? Yet again, reading comprehension.
>>72867866
He's implying that by clicking on OP's link you have to pay 2 bucks. Which isn't worth it. But that's not true at all as you can just
>>72867878
You can't make an implication out of something I didn't imply.
God, you people are retards.
Each Burial release has gotten so stripped down and minimal
with its sci-fi samples that all Hyperdub can do now is release dat
sound-pack and cash in on deluxe reissues of Kindred.
>>72867884
??????????
You must be trolling by now
>>72867898
i actually enjoy it. you know somebody who does the minimal ambient better?
why doesn't he just release another full length baka
those two albums are his most cohesive and engaging statements to date, quit trying to act like you're underground will, you've already dug your rockist grave, now come on and lie in it already
>>72867544
>good ambient, like 36, gas, loscil etc...
>>72867544
>and the list goes on
>>72867924
Kindred was his most cohesive tbqh
>>72867909
Not at all. At least explain why you think I am.
it sounds VERY amateur
there's no feeling to it.. music without feeling is nothing
In other news, truth released another album also!
>>72867988
nothing is a feeling....
>>72867916
Burial isn't ambient. There is an atmospheric style to his production but there is still a melodic structure of sorts to his music, its just more drawn out in these latest songs.
>>72868058
Burial is a musician. Musician does ambient. This release is ambient.
>>72868074
smdh you missed my point entirely. Ambient to me is pure dissonance with no melodic phrasing. Did you even listen to these latest songs?
>>72868054
like feeling nothing = cold? this release doesn't even have that feel
>>72867916
Try Steve Roach on for size
>>72868122
a no feel. is still a feel.
>>72868102
then your definition of ambient needs work, because ambient encompasses all those things and more.
>>72868102
>Ambient to me
i didn't know you wrote the book of what ambient is?
>>72868138
yeah i understand what you're saying
what i'm saying is that this release is shite
>>72867898
I kind of wish there was a burial drum soundpack released alongside this current release so I can bash out some proper dubby swing beats to Beachfires
>>72868154
agreed
>>72867476
https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/subtemple
>>72868147
I.E My perception, nothing definitive just my perception. Get out you're just trolling by now
Here, having some exit music, fuckwit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQbmbNTyXU
burial you fucking suck at ambient my man
tetsu, save me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MPmrmmxaRo
>>72867679
>Subtemple / Beachfires is sure to be William Bevan's most widely praised recording
it came out today lmao
>>72868187
the thing is, he doesn't suck at ambient. night bus, in mcdonalds, the massive attack outro etc... he can be incredible at it, but as of late, he's just completely gone off the rails. his standards have dropped considerably. it's really weird.
>>72868181
okay mr.ambient man. dont get mad now
Best thing with Burials name on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCzJQRVbWtE
Where did everything go so WRONG?
https://www.reddit.com/r/burial/comments/6c1upu/new_burial_single_subtemple_beachfires_out_may/
>>72868214
All I hear now is the sound of a pot stirring itself
First Andy Stott comes up with some indecipherable shit, now this
Can it stop
>>72868373
Yeah that Stott album was a difficult one, am I just too brainlet to understand?
>>72868390
I'm talking about yesterday's new track, but the last album was 2deep for me too
>>72868373
Andy Stott? More like Andy Stop listening after Luxury Problems.
nice drum patterns on this one!!
>>72868373
>>72868405
andy stotts new album was a banger. git taste
>ah fuck he's... there's no drums on these... did he.. is this a mistake or is this, like, what he wants... errr... should I call him?... i mean this can't be right... there's nothing here... did he accidentally mute his drum channel? actually nah fuck it I'll release 'em anyway, p4k, RA, fantano and /mu/ will eat it up regardless
I think I've just got ripped off. The Bandcamp files must be corrupt, there are no beats in them.
>>72868446
Beats come with DLC
>>72867458
I like it.
>mfw I think this is actually not bad
I don't think it's offensively bad or notably good, but it feels like it's a smaller part of a bigger picture, and as a result not a very substantial release. These tracks don't seem like they belong on their own to me. They sound like intro / outro / interlude tracks from a full length album. Makes me think of the kind of thing that would be on Burial's version of SAW vol. 2...
>>72868438
>Fantano
He took a pretty big shit on Rival Dealer when it came out, and rightly so, only the title track was any good.
On the bright side, compared to these 2, Young Death sounds like a total banger now.
First track was trash, but i dig Beachfires more than anything in Young Death
Wow, unexpected!!!!
I think I would actually quite like this style from burial if he fleshed it out a little more, went a bit less minimalistic. There's potential for a change of course for him here, it could be pretty good.
This one is pretty forgettable, and too short imo for this style. Needs a third track, make it a good 25-30 minutes.
OH MY GOD, this is the greatest EP I've ever heard in my life!
>>72867764
It was kinda underrated t b h
Beachfires is pretty decent.
>/mu/ cant into ambient music
What went so horrible wrong?
>>72868848
>implying all ambient is created equal
>>72867946
>implying Gas and 36 isn't good
Do you actually think you're going to influence anyone with this post?
And judging by /mu/'s reaction to this excellent new EP, you guys should really stick to circlejerking over the same set of 6 albums day in day out
I wonder why I even come here anymore
>>72868669
First patrician post in the thread
>>72868473
>He took a pretty big shit on Rival Dealer when it came out, and rightly so, only the title track was any good.
kill yourself wow
>>72868848
this is pretty bad ambient, don't give me that shit
beachfire is the best thing he's done since kindred and it's slightly above average dark ambience.
someone tell this dumbass to go back and make some broken drums again.
It's an alright release, but it would be so much better if he combined the drumless rhythmics of the first tracks with the atmosphere of Beachfires.
>>72869705
*the first track
wew
Will obviously started going off the deep end at Rival Dealer
this isn't that bad. a very nuanced soundscape that is new coming from burial but also a little familiar with the vocals.
I like it way more than his last single and that one-off thing he did for the label that wasn't hyperdub. I like the he didn't go into the direction that people were predicting he'll go after them.
>>72867615
>>72867687
Truant/Rough Sleeper is probably my favourite Burial relese ever.
>>72867458
This has some sort of potential.
Ambient blues perhaps?
I'd go so far as to say this is his first fully "meh" release
Why does /mu/ insist on having such extreme opinions?
Is Will trolling us? This is Garbage. I will argue for Burial on every release for why its his best work yet -- but this ain't even got a beat, this ain't even got anything it's literally just sample meterial. Congrats for the producers of future garage out there -- you get stock burial sounds.
>>72871469
>not knowing what dark ambient is
>being this much of a pleb
>>72871501
so what's the draw? It's got no pulse, no hook, no melody, no harmony it's just noise.
>>72871535
it draws from a different aspect of Burial's music. Yes this is a teaser EP with ostensibly lesser quality music for Burial's standard. But you gotta appreciate the fact that he's exploring new ground. In this instance, it's dark ambient and field recordings, which are genres that we've known for a while now that Burial would be able to pull off.
They're also genres that require a bit more focus and less searching for "hooks" and "melodies", by far. It's about the vibe, man. listen to Hazard - Wood
>>72871619
My issue isn't the fact it's ambient (I've wanted Burial to do a completely ambient release for years in fact) but rather that these two tracks are rather boring and not really suited to a 12" 2 track vinyl release release.
This kind of music works better at least as a 30 min+ EP and preferably, a full-length LP. At least then, your brain isn't treating it like a Burial banger and you can get absorbed in the sound more.
>>72871535
so you've listened to no music from the past 20-30 years huh
just antiquated shit huh
>>72868002
Truth are so underrated imo, they released some solid stuff on Firepower a few years ago
did burial give up with record deals and get his own soundcloud?
why would bleep bloop artists even bother with labels anymore? everyone is on bandcamp
jesus christ, I guess ST and Untrue were really just flukes.
your face when steinvord does better ambient than burial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo2qKW5_H5w
anyone rip it yet?
>>72872328
Are these kind of music considered good? I could make something like this in 3 minutes.
Stop being so fucking pretentious.
I actually appreciate it for what it is. The second track is gorgeous to be honest. The first one is very skeletal but I like the experimentation anyway. It sounds like reading music. Although these tracks would have worked much better in an ambient LP. Kind of pointless to release these on vinyl. If this is the kind of stuff he is releasing on vinyl then I am sure he not making music at all these past few years.
>>72872532
No you can't. You have no idea how fucking hard it is to come up with two perfect chords with the right texture that have the repeat value for years.
>>72872280
I was pondering this same theory too. I think Burial caught a wave at the right time, right on the cusp of the beginning dubstep at and at the tail end of the UK Garage scene, and what really got him the extra boost was his unique sampling technique. I remember back in the day how everyone would talk about the innovation and complexity of his vocal manipulation, now that is par for the course in trap, EDM, Pop -- but to burial that type of thing was not new to him since he was exposed to the underground garage for a long time where sampling and warping r&b vocals was common.
Basically he put together the atmosphere-creating sound design of jungle/breakbeat with the r&b(which was the relatable bit that made him have mass appeal). I think it was indeed a fluke and burial has no idea what got him his acclaim, and now he's just making music disregarding the ingredients that got him where he is, which was basically borderline alt pop with syncopated rhythms and melancholic sound design with a touch of classical/romatic grandiose/religious music in the harmonies(I'm thinking the chord progression he samples in archangel from Metal Gear)
>>72872598
this
>>72872606
i just dont get how he got that insanely good production in burial
it sounds like pop music tier of production, as in it sounds like a multi million dollar production record or something
i cant just be good samples. i wonder what vsts does he use.
>>72872606
>>72872280
I wouldn't say anything by Burial is "flukey". He basically pioneered future garage and explores themes that I haven't ever heard any other artist do. However for me, getting into Burial wasn't even to do with dubstep; I got into it on the pure emotion that nothing else seems to match.
I don't really hear anything out right now that sounds like him. Anything that tries to sound like Burial usually comes across as cheap lo-fi 2-step woodblock imitation music.
people who actually like Burial like the emotional quality of the music. people who """"like"""" Burial only like his Untrue sound, and they still want to hear it. He's moved on.
>>72872739
his recent stuff just sounds uninspired; like he's someone else trying to emulate his own sound. maybe it's because Untrue was actually novel for its time. maybe it's because there are too many Burial clones that he can't distinguish himself from them
these textures are so fuckin tactile I love it
Beachfires is pretty good
>>72872931
Yeah love it
>>72872931
It really is. I'm personally loving the direction he's going in
>>72872532
>I could make something like this in 3 minutes
Let's see it, anon!
(2/10 for making me respond)
>>72872931
>>72872953
>>72873047
Burial get out
>>72867544
>good like 36, gas, loscil etc
>that excuse for """"""""""'ambient""""""""""'
>good
>>72873390
>Implying that Gas is not the greatest ambient artist to ever live
yeah its pretty good.
>those vocal samples
is this a fucking joke
Is there something that has the heavy atmosphere and skittery weird drums of future garage but with a 4-on-the-floor kick beat?
I feel like garage and minimal techno would crossover well but I haven't found anything like that
>>72867458
it sounds like backpambient. ambient for kids who listen to pop rock and indie lmao and who the only electronic music they listen to is burial and caphex twin and only ambient they listen to is tyco and gas lmfao faggots kill yourselves
>Gas is being usurped by backpambient p4k kiddies
Fucking kill me
>>72873747
>using backpambient unironically when that term was literally made as a meme to make fun of this retarded attitude
sad, anon. sad.
>>72873728
listen to hessle audio
I think I'd like this more if I knew it wasn't Burial.
god i hate teens
>>72873283
but consider this: it is good
>>72873747
>he uses his musical knowledge to make up for his self-hatred
LMAO
>>72872931
best thing he's drone since rival dealer (the track)
could use some shuffly drums I guess but I still take it over any of the other dreck he's released in recent times
>>72867458
jesus would it kill him to get some fucking album art for once
>>72873932
>drone
meant done
>>72872739
>people who actually like Burial like the emotional quality of the music. people who """"like"""" Burial only like his Untrue sound, and they still want to hear it. He's moved on.
i agree with this. i still really like his music.
>>72868473
>rival dealer is not the best one
please
>>72873747
ITT: people who listened to the EP with expectations of what Burial should be instead of encouraging his exploration
>>72874260
I agree. I think the it's amazing, in its own right.
Anyone else feel like they're listening to SAW 2 when you play this new EP? Gonna take some time to accept this, but now it just feels like a lazy copy.
>>72867602
Truant/Rough Sleeper and Rival Dealer are brilliant EPs
>>72874102
KEK
Beachfires is a song made out of all his songs. Thought that was pretty cool/original to be honest.
Subtemple on the other hand has me scratching my head.
>>72875320
>song made out of all his songs
I know it has the bit from Hiders in it, what else does it resample?
best thing he ever made.
yup, better than untrue and SLB.
fight me.
>>72867602
I feel like the only person in the world who actually like sweetz
>>72875429
kindred+street halo would have made a superb third burial album desu. all the tunes in retrospect are quite timeless.
i think hyperdub released a cd comp of them both actually. may as well consider it the official third burial lp, cos whatever he actually releases (if ever) is likely to be shit in comparison.
>>72875429
No sunshine.
>>72875501
my nigga
Burial has always been about mood. And I see myself listening to this while having a smoke and walking in the rain especially the second song. It is kind of underwhelming but hey new burial
>>72873747
GET THE FUCK OUT PLEB
What intrigues me most is the fact that /bleep/ is the same 60 people each time and there are never any UKgarage/whateveryouwanttocallit threads but Burial releases something and you all jump on it.
Is it because no one listens to anything else apart from the overhyped essentials or you've tried lots of similar music and think he is still the best?
>>72875702
/bleep/ is a shithole
>>72875702
/bleep/ is full of uk uni twats from middle class families thinking they're cultured because they've moved to a city and been to a underground rave that isn't even underground but has been marketed so.
>>72875715
>and there are never any UKgarage/whateveryouwanttocallit threads
I like it, as someone who mostly listens to ambient/drone this is nice, very urban and gritty atmosphere.
I do think Bevan did the whole garage/dubstep thing better but if this is the new direction I can dig it.
>>72875702
Well he's really unique feels/mood wise, so you can't really compare any other artists to him imo.
What release would you recommend that came out within 12 months in this genre?
>>72875765
They're quickly overrun by /bleep/ shitposters
>>72875794
either that or they just fall off the board to page 10
>>72875715
>>72875760
No arguments there
>>72875793
Okay, I don't really listen to it, just an observation was all, I'd probably listen to these though
https://www.discogs.com/search/?sort=hot%2Cdesc&style_exact=UK+Garage&type=master&decade=2010&year=2017
>>72875794
>>72875811
Thats the board in general if its not /mu/fantano/p4kcore though really
>>72867458
holy shit thanks op
its shjit
Most pretentious shit I've heard in a long time.
>>72872606
>2005 = dubstep started
It's pretty awful, honest.
More of that boring ambient noodling nobody really wanted to hear.
People just follow Will at this point because they're hoping that the old dubs are put out at some point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj39bxQC_VU
>>72875702
That's because /bleep/ is not the same people as the ones who visit the whole of /mu/. The people in /bleep/ despise the /mu/ attitudes towards music, because it is dishonest and pretentious to a degree, the very opposite of what club music is really all about.
>>72867758
I laughed at this for some reason. +1 for you anon
>>72872606
>>72872739
It's shocking that people can be this clueless.
>>72877262
looks like you're one of the latter of the 2 types mentioned in >>72872739. sucks to be so cuckolded to le golden days of Burial doesn't it?
>>72867458
>Listens to Subtemple
I-Is this a fucking joke? It sounds like field recordings of a car when you start its engine up. Why is there so much hype around this shit of an EP
>>72877431
You're absolutely right, I don't really care for Burial as an artist all that much.
I rate some of his tunes, but that's about it.
This is probably the best thing he ever did btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMCTyP8H3Yk
>>72872739
I liked Temple Sleeper too am I reel burial fan now
>>72877449
/mu/ just picks 2 or 3 artists from a genre and circlejerks over them
>>72877527
No, because Temple Sleeper sounds like one of those early EP era tunes after Untrue.
It was probably something Blackdown had on hand and he was like "Yo Will mind if I put this out?" and Will is like "yea ok go for it"
It's bad? What is it that makes ambient music good then?
all the plebs in this thread who cant into ambient
this release is perfectly good and im happy for it. ive been enjoying his more ambiently shit lately so this is more fuel to the fire for me. im just patiently waiting for a full length at this point. also would be nice if there was a compilation release of all his older shit unreleased and tracks w four tet and massive attack on one comp