PWR BTTM DROPPED BY POLYVINYL

>>72754465
very old news

>>72754465
There's already a thread

how much Ben kills himself

>>72754487
I mean they've had time to deny it and they haven't

>>72754465
>accused of anti-semitism
>in the music industry
rip in piece

>>72754479
not it isn't you retard. they stopped selling their album but they just now dropped them.

>>72754487
They're not going to review it at all probably

>>72754502
Bruce wouldn't; Liv might though.

>>72754502
I have a $100 Target gift card. I'll bet it.

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>>72754529
Macklemore's still alive

>>72754523
still no confirmation. It's a witch hunt.

>>72754502
I wonder what they are doing right now. Crying?

>>72754594
hardly

>>72754611
if it wasn't true. if it was completely made up or even exaggerated. any of the surely dozens of people they have working with and advising them would've told them to flatly and strongly deny it as soon as possible.

why didn't they? why haven't they? why have they waited for all of their business contacts (tour mates, labels) to issue public statements first disowning them?

I'm the last person to defend a twitter rape accusation for no reason but their response is baffling if they're innocent.

>>72754577
Screencapped anon, I'll find something to bet

>>72754532
oh

>>72754719
>their response is baffling if they're innocent.
What do you expect from a duo of literal faggots?

>>72754784
Yep, they're no longer signed. They're done for. They were gearing up to be really big and they goofed everything.

>>72754818(You)

>>72754594
When was the last time Macklemore was relevant

>>72754719
thats because rape is incredibly common. and asshats like you who think anybody would make that shit are awful and perpetuate a system that allow abusers to get away with it or praised while the abused is called a liar, deserving, or exagerating...

>>72754861 are a faggot to I see!

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>>72754869
my drug dealer was a doctor

>>72754869
oh idk those huge singles and videos from his last album and his last album as a whole

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>>72754911
my music teacher was a /mu/tant

>>72754818
How can they be faggots if they raped women?

>>72755020
bisexuals are faggots

>>72755072
ummm

>>72755020
remember, they are faggots if they deserve to be burned alive on faggots

>>72754881
>to
slaying it

>>72754611
too many people who would have too much to lose if they were lying confirmed that its true

>>72754878
literally what does this response mean learn to read idiot

>>72755161
>You are a faggot
>to I
>see?
there's a pause

allegations =/= evidence

>>72755182
source on this?

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>An anonymous woman has given an interview to Jezebel describing an alleged sexual assault by Ben Hopkins of PWR BTTM, adding to allegations of predatory behavior that have been circulating over the past two days. The woman, who Jezebel has given the pseudonym of “Jen,” claims that Hopkins “made sexually aggressive advances and started having sex with her without permission while also refusing to wear protection,” according to Jezebel. “Later, while she was asleep, Jen said she woke up to Hopkins trying to have sex with her again.” She also claimed that Hopkins assaulted her a second time a month after the first incident.

do you believe?

>>72755336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Y0dTNH7Ns

>>72755182
Not really. Sadie is a lying and manipulative bitch and the other people were from small indie acts that would not have anything to lose. There is nothing to lose by lying about sexual assault these days. There is only something to gain really. It's fucking sick.

>>72755374
No. She didn't know it was rape until her friends told her it was.

>>72754465
MORE LIKE PWR BTFO AMIRITE

>>72755389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIIiYunMQk

>>72755387
Also Sadie can fall back on the argument that she really was raped since she changed the definition of rape to mean that he was being pushy

>>72755213
you couldn't read that? it was basic english fuckwit

>>72755389
I go to a lib arts college and practically all the girls here literally say they were raped. It usually go that they say they didn't know it was rape at the time but now they know.

Fucking hell no it's not then. You just had sex and regret it.

How the fuck did anyone even buy into this manufactured shit band?

>>72755387
you idiot do you even now how hard it is for these brave women to come forward with the truth in spite of the overwhelming institutional oppression they face in all aspects of life and from everyone they know

>>72755421
The words were English but their flow holds no relevance to the anon you were responding to.

>>72755404
>>72755425
Exactly. What the fuck did she expect going to a guys house late at night? That's what you do when you are going to have sex with someone. You go to their house late at night.

>>72755449
All this oppression you speak of literally does not exist.

Also, I said this in the previous threads but I personally know Sadie so don't act like you know what you are talking about.

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>>72755449
>institutional oppression
wew lad

>>72754924
His last album had 0 huge singles. You're thinking of the album before.

That's how irrelevant he is, you didn't even realize he had put out a more recent album.

>>72755588
You are forgetting about Downtown

>>72755449
Are you being serious or are you playing a character to get some (You)s?

I honestly cannot tell.

>>72755442
you answered your own question: it's manufactured.

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>>72754465
their response is fucking bizarre. bands and their management are terrible at writing responses to allegations. they are always extremely incriminating and poorly written. this type of stuff would be torn apart in a courtroom

this is why PR people exist. if ben and liv truly wrote this then they are fucking deranged. it basically reads "if ben has raped you then we (liv and friends?) would love to hear about it with ben reading over our shoulders"

if they are that divorced from reality then any accusation against them becomes more likely. what a fucking bonkers response o i am definitely laffing

>>72755588
nah dude. I actually like his new album more cause it's less basic bitch id politics and more fun.

do yourself a favor and watch this >>72755618

>>72755762
Regardless of that statement, there are things they could have denied by now. Particularly with this >>72755374. And yet they haven't. This screams of guilt.

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>>72755762

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>>72755762
>what a fucking bonkers response
kinda bonkers, eh?

>>72755390
got 'em

>>72755222
nice trips but this makes no sense

>>72755072
"faggot" is an exclusive term

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rapist confirmed

>>72755718
Still, /mu/ does not usually fall for manufactured pop trash. So why would they fall for this manufactured lgbt trash?

>>72756014
I still don't understand what this had to do with that allegation. It would be like saying someone raped you and then making a FB post accusing them and including and image of them wearing a KKK outfit. It's not a good image but it's still irrelevant.

>>72756044
I've literally never seen a thread about these faggots on /mu/ and had never even heard of them before this incident.

>>72754594
Jesus, I forgot he did that.

>>72756014
What was the point of including this photo with the accusation though? I think he's guilty as sin, but this just makes the accusation seem kinda petty and vindictive

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>>72754529
bad goys indeed

>>72756101
>petty and vindictive
that's the default mode for these people

>>72755421
>it was basic english fuckwit

>thats because rape is incredibly common. and asshats like you who think anybody would make that shit are awful and perpetuate a system that allow abusers to get away with it or praised while the abused is called a liar, deserving, or exagerating...

>>72756145
same with the indie scene now. head over to r/indieheads. they are giddy with this drama. it's sickening.

>>72754628
raping each other

>>72754594
what did he mean by this?

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>tfw Pageant is actually good
wtf

>>72754532
Does that mean they're not signed anywhere anymore?

>>72755336
yes, but regardless absolute silence does seem to = guilt.

>>72754577
I want it

>>72756257
it really isn't

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>>72755374
>She also claimed that Hopkins assaulted her a second time a month after the first incident.

???

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Kind of bizarre to watch the fallout in real-time.

I think they really did themselves in with their shitty and vague response. I get that they were trying to be pragmatic but they should have just outright denied it if he actually didn't do anything wrong.

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>>72756014
>drawing a swastika to be edgy makes you an anti-semite

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>>72756170
You weren't kidding.

>>72756044
Did /mu/? I only ever saw one thread about them before the controversy. They're more of a Stereogum band.

>>72756170
so was /mu/. did you not see the threads yesterday?

>>72755389
if i steal 100 dollars from you, but you only find out after a month, does it not count?

>>72756489
Yes

>good riddance

clear shitposting. it's not the same thing. That wasn't the whole thread either.

>>72756526
there were like 10 different threads and plenty of people were happy about their downfall

>>72756543
Like I said, it was a cross between shitposting as usual and also this >>72756463. /mu/ doesn't even care about this band so of course they don't care about their downfall.

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>>72755762
>If you were raped by Ben or have any inquires about our sexual abuse scandal, please contact us on our new rape victim survivors hotline. We love to hear your feedback!

>>72756526
every time I hear about something like this I get on /mu/

other than that it's fucking boring

>>72756435
He sort of looks Jewish too.

>>72756543
At least they were honest about it. And yeah there was probably a lot of shitposters too. A lot of /mu/, including me, had never heard of these people before yesterday.

>>72756581
>IF YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THE RAPIST YOU'D LIKE TO ACCUSE, PRESS 1

>>72755442
the same dumb cunt's who turned on them because another company told them thats what they should do.

>>72756067
he had posted it a year ago apologizing if anyone had been offended it by it.

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>>72756581

>>72754465
Their music is shit anyway. Who cares.

>>72756257
It was mediocre.

>>72756791
do you even like queercore?

So are they called PWR BTTM because he PWRed his way into girls BTTMs?

>>72756573
I like it when shit falls apart, but everyone involved in this case is garbage. from the band to the former fans, and blind rage against them.

But boy do i want to fuck liv

>>72755449
this but unironically

>>72756815
No.

>>72756014
WHT PWR BTTM

>>72755449
memeing?

>>72756934
then you can't judge it

>>72755374
Just fuckin look at these guys. Why would anybody doubt they're sexual deviants

>>72756728
>Thank you for calling Ben's Sexual Abuse Hotline! How would you rate your rape? Press 1 for 1 star, 2 for two stars, 3 for three stars, 4 for four stars, and 5 for five stars. To file a complaint and ruin our careers, press 6. We always appreciate your feedback!

>>72755449
hearty kek

>>72755762
Wow they're actually retarded

I don't think many people on /mu/ actually care about this band though, people just care because it's SJW getting blown the fuck out

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>>72756953
I don't know how

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>>72756815
>queercore

>>72757046
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queercore

>>72756815
I like queercore but this is the Good Charlotte of queercore

>>72757146
bad comparison. more like the ween of queercore, at least to normie indieheads.

>>72757019
>SJW getting blown the fuck out
more like SJWs eating each other

>>72757354
Yeah, that makes it doubly appealing I guess.

>>72755762
wow they're fucking stupid.

if you didn't do it then deny it. yes there will still be outrage for a bit but 9 times out of 10 it will blow over if you retain deniability. see: pretty much all actors except for bill cosby (and even he was still selling out all of his shows when the controversy was going on)

>>72755762
>>72757464
I understand what they are saying and how they feel but at the same time they have to know what inevitably becomes implicit within that statement and the following silence on their part.

>>72757542
it seems like they were so focused on being socially conscious that they forgot he was being accused of a major crime

>>72757666
kek, pretty much.

>>72756815
no

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Their other label dropped them too. Damn...

HEADS UP: this means you're not getting any physical copies nor will you be able to stream their music.

>>72758136

nothing of value was lost honestly

>>72757666
hit the nail on the head senpai

>>72758136
>THE HOTLINE MEME

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>>72758136
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>72758193
this desu

>>72758266
the face of a rapist

>>72758136

I love this because it proves that just because you act progressive doesn't mean you aren't a piece of shit capable of doing shitty things

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Stereogum, the worst SJW shithole on the net's lead guy in trouble for making problematic comments about this

>>72758881
>oh shit, I better retract my opinion and dissolve back into the hivemind!
These people are pathetic

>>72758881
This is absolutely pathetic. The music is not the person ffs.

Also, is Stereogum really that bad?

>>72754465
>literally who

>>72755914
LAWL AVERY TAR

>>72759184

Yes, the comment section is the largest congregation of nu-males on the net

>>72758881
hhahhdghhahhah

wy is dis shi so funnay

>>72759265
>inxy
literally who

>>72757666
>they forgot he was being accused of a major crime
these people treat rape like it's a social wrongdoing rather than a felony. it's all gossip and shunning each other rather than "hey if this person is actually a rapist then we need to do everything in our power to put them behind bars to prevent it from happening again." instead it's just facebook posts like someone cheated on their girlfriend or something.

>>72759316
I don't read the comments. They seem pretty normal for music journalism websites. They post more about smaller artists too which I like.

>>72759316
their heavy rotation list is usually pretty good tho

>>72759435
Exactly, and ironically by treating rape that way THEY are the ones who are actually creating the "rape culture" they so often labor over.

>>72756450
i hate that place

>>72759523
it's just a weird cognitive dissonance, it's treated both extremely seriously and not seriously at all. if someone is a rapist you NEED to go to the authorities. i understand, it can be difficult to prove and it can be traumatic, but you HAVE TO make an effort to prevent it from happening again. if someone murdered your family you would do whatever you can to put them in jail even if it was emotionally difficult to do so.

and note i'm not saying "if they didn't go to the cops then it's fake," i'm just shocked that everyone isn't like "TAKE IT TO THE POLICE PLEASE" all the time rather than "omg i'm so sorry please tweet about it"

>>72759767
Twitter is a good place to accuse someone of sexual abuse the same way Facebook is a good place to discuss politics.

>>72754611
They are incriminating themselves by not stepping forward