Serious discussion. Why is this not appreciated here?
For a perfectly fine reason being it's cheesy and horrible.Serious question, can you explain why you like it without getting defensive or aggressive?
>>72748363
Because it's not good. He's a one-trick pony with his singing style, switching between quiet and scream-singing like his voice is going to give out. His songwriting is mediocre, production is god awful, and it opens with this leprechaun doing a fucking rap for christ's sake
>>72748387
Yes I would also like to hear why you like it.
Please tell me
I want to know
Inform me
On why it's good
The album I mean
Divide
Go on what are you waiting for?
Tell us
>>72748363
bland, predictable pop trash. there is nothing redeemable about ed sheeran's music. unadventurous, lacking creativity and innovation, and lyrically it's fucking horrible. it's so thoroughly obviously created as a product and feels so lifeless. i hate ed sheeran so god damn much
Tell us why you like it first
Ed doesn't make the board often, it's been appreciated here before
>>72748387
To begin thanks for a dignified response, and yes I can.
As far as singer/songwriter its quite excellent. Nothing spectacular granted. His last album was far superior, but this project is not horrible at all
>>72748464
I think it's too safe and uninspired, forgettable. Lao how can you not be sick of like half of the songs on his new album?
>>72748412
Troll on bro
>>72748430
>unadventurous, lacking creativity and innovation
that doesn't make music any less pleasant to hear
innovation is honestly just codeword for cred
>>72748487
Understandable to a degree. I wouldn't say half. Castle on the Hill, Hearts Dont break around Here, Happier, Supermarket Flowers, Paeen, Dive and Save Myself are all solid tracks
>>72748430
To each their own I believe and you obviously differ in taste musically but appropriate your input nevertheless
>>72748363
The thing is I'm a huge fan of Simon & Garfunkel, Clapton, Elliott Smith, Damion Rice etc. And not just this album bit Sheerans catalog as a whole firmly stands up to these artists
>>72748464
He's an excellent songwriter? Are you serious? And who are you comparing him to? Bob Dylan? I'm disgusted I even made such a "comparison".
>>72748529
>innovation is honestly just codeword for cred
I'm past the point of being mad. I'm just curious to see how low can this board possibly sink.
>>72748745
Chill that wasn't me "OP" I really do want to keep this dignified
>>72748745
you mean free of the pretense you still cling to?
>>72748726
Typical, but sure lets go extreme and compare to Dylan. Give me what you feel is a great Dylan song
>>72748785
What are you even talking about? It's alright, you like top 40 pop, so, don't make it something more than that.
>>72748785
>>72748795
Can we not derail my thread please
>>72748795
i wasn't even trying to talk about divide i was talking about your criticisms of it in a more general realm
being "different" is completely irrelevant to being "good"
>>72748793
>Typical, but sure lets go extreme and compare to Dylan
Well, you started by claiming that a safe, sugarcoated popstar is an excellent songwriter.
>Give me what you feel is a great Dylan song
It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding), A Hard Rains Gonna Fall, Gates of Eden, Like a Rolling Stone, Mr. Tambourine Man, Blowing in the Wind, The Times They Are A Changin'.
All songs describing life in ~5 minutes. He practically immortalized himself through these songs alone. If that's not good enough for you, I don't know what is. And here's Neil Young's opinion on Bob Dylan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmADAA97RTI
>>72748820
>being "different" is completely irrelevant to being "good"
As far as folk music goes, that's exactly what it's appreciated for - not being safe, being honest, provocative, life affirming, inspiring and above all human and raw.
>>72748870
>folk
you were talking about ed sheeran?
>>72748841
I fucks with you anon but tell me these can't compare
The A team, UNI. Wake Me Up, Small Bump, Lego House, Kiss Me. Give Me Love, One, I'm a Mess, Photograph, I See Fire, All of the Stars
>>72748900
Sheeran definitely qualifies as folk bro
>>72748917
Also, I'm not saying this is better than Dylan I'm just giving comparable material
>>72748841
https://youtu.be/Tx4JIlDtJsI
>>72748841
https://youtu.be/aHMlAYeFeYw
>>72748900
I'm the one who posted that and I don't qualify I'm as folk musician, because he's the exact rejection of what I've described. His fanbase certainly thinks otherwise.
>>72749036
Don't qualify him*
>>72748935
>he thinks "folk" means "white person with acoustic guitar"
>>72749007
>>72749028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l07cwNvZni8
And this isn't even a band remotely close to Dylan. My problem with modern "folk" musicians is the systematic rejection of:
>>72748870
And what's more, isn't this breathingly nasal and slightly melancholic singing style something we've all heard a million times now?
>>72749036
See that's part of the problem. No he's not a folk artist but he's made some folk sounding hits. So yet again we have this categorization problem
>>72749085
Good luck with convincing his fanbase otherwise.