Can /mu/ agree on this?

>>72727871
>m-muh last few minutes of starless

sort yourself out

>>72727890
/thread

>>72727890
>>72728044
Sort yourselves out. Specifically, sort your necks into nooses, because ItCotCK fucking pales in comparison to Red with its wimpy Mellotrons and pseudo-jazz shit.

>>72727871
No.

>>72727871
Nah
LTIA>ITCOTCK>Discipline>Red>others

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>>72728053
Goddamn right. Red or Dead.

ITCOTCK > LTIA > ITWOP > Red > Discipline > others
my take anyways

>>72727871
Starless and Bible Black > others

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>>72727890
>sort yourself out
Peterson General?

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>>72727871

*blocks your path*

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>>72728233

ITCOTCK is one of the greatest debut albums of all time but red is a greater achievement in virtually every way tbqhwu senpai

ITCOTCK > Islands > Lizard > Red > Discipline > everything else

I realize this is totally just taste though in terms of quality people could make a ton of different assessments. KC is the best band of the 70s fight me.

>>72727871
Lark's Tongues is better than both.

>>72728279
honestly what makes Red such an achievement? I mean I love that record and Starless is GOAT ofc but ITCOTCK is insane like how does that album even exist

>>72728439
One word: Production.

Tell me Red couldn't have come out on 1985.

ITCOTCK sounds pretty 1969.

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>>72728439
to me red feels like the culmination of years of working to find and perfecting an original sound. red perfectly blends complexity with accessibility and has one of the best, most climactic endings to an album i've ever heard. i've played both albums to death and personally i can always go back to red, ITCOTCK has grown a little stale for me over the years but its still an undeniable classic, it just doesn't do it for me like red does.

>>72728233
>>72728275
which album would Peterson prefer? my guess would be ITCOTCK because of all the archetypes and fairytale-like properties

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>>72728248
This. Discipline is the true alpha record.
>He held a gun in his hand HAHA this is a DANGEROUS PLACE

Side note, when did there become so many KC threads on /mu/? I feel like three months ago it was the same way, except with Genesis.

>>72728484
Could have.

Fuck autocorrect.

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>>72727871
>>72728248
*teleports behind you*

>>72728882
every few weeks there's cycle where "patricians" listen to dad rock for the first time and realize they basically missed all good music for the last fifty years

Red=Discipline>cock

>>72728162
mad close
ltia>itcock>red>starless and bible black>Discipline>lizard

>>72727871


yess

except RED comes first

>>72727871

I'm not worried

>>72727871
cock is better because it has moonchild (the greatest song of all time) desu

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>>72729942

>>72728162
>>72728189
>>72728371
>>72729790
>>72729778
It's actually:
ITCOTCK=Discipline > Red > Larks' > Three of a Perfect Pair > THRAK > Power to Believe > ITWOP > Starless and Bible Black > Beat > Lizard > Islands > ConstruKction of Light

>>72730784
I agree with this ranking and feel like I posted it before but it might be because it's what I think also.

>>72730848
That's weird. No one ever comes up with one-to-one rankings in these threads.

>>72730784
>Three of a Perfect Pair that high
Did I miss something? I hated the rest of the 80's albums after Discipline

>>72731354
The only thing that really brings ToaPP down is Nuages, which is a completely unnecessary instrumental. All of the second side is just as good as Discipline, and much of the first side is good as well, particularly Sleepless and Model Man.

>>72731418
Eh, maybe I just don't like the vibe or something

>>72729742
there's nothing wrong with that though

>>72731431
With that ranking the only album I dislike is ConstrucKtion of Light, and everything from Beat on up is 6/10 or higher (albums I like).

The other 80s Crimson albums are fairly weird in terms of cohesion- neither one flows as cohesively as Discipline, and ToaPP in particular feels very jagged with its side 1 versus side 2. But there's good stuff on both, and if you just want the highlights, the Absent Lovers live album is perfect.

>>72728053
>wimpy Mellotrons and pseudo-jazz shit
>imbailin Red doesn't have those

>>72730784
>ITWOP and Lizard below ToaPP, Thrak and PtB

>>72727871
genius

Everyone's assuming what it means to be worried about that other guy, first off.