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Harshest truths in music

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Shinji Sato's actual cause of death being a suicide has the likelihood of roughly 99.9%.
You don't just play the concert of a lifetime and die of a "heart defect" less than three months later.
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But David Bowie and Leonard Cohen did their best to leave behind a final musical expression in the face of their impending deaths.

Is it that unbelievable?
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Stone Temple Pilots is good
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>>72668003
Yeah but they were old as fuck, Shinji was only 33.
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Thom Yorke IS going to die within 2 decades.
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>>72668052
More like in 7 years after two albums at the age of 54.
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>>72668052
KEK WILLS IT
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ITT: Death is real and it happens to everyone!
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Lemmy Kilmister's actual cause of death being Meme Magic™ has the likelihood of roughly 100%.
You don't just be 70 years old and still play shows and die of Cancer.
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>>72667961
What are you talking about? Shinji is alive and well. He is teaching Japanese at Princeton. Power to him!

http://www.princeton.edu/eas/people/display_person.xml?netid=ssato
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sonemic will eventually lunch
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>>72668109
>pointless snarky cynicism
Hope death happens to you, like, right at this very moment!
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>>72668109
D-Did you say..?
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>>72668047
That doesn't mean you can't understand that your life is ending. I mean, David Bowie wasn't just old, he was dying of a specific cancer.

Not even saying Shinji didn't OD or whatever else might be reported to the public as a heart defect, but it wouldn't surprise me if he simply knew his time was up.
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>>72668136
Ah, as expected of a genius like Sato-san!
Haha.....
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>>72668161
DELET
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elliott smith was murdered.

people don't want to believe it because they like listening to sad music by people that killed themselves
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There is no good music, nor is there a definitive definition to 'good' or 'bad' when coming to describe creative works

There's simply what you like and don't like, that's its.
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>>72668139
NEVER
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>>72668289
This is only a harsh truth to a 16 year old.
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>>72668109
>>72668161
Someone's there and then they're not
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>>72668318
try most of this board
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>>72668161
>>72668347
1:04 AM, Vdara Hotel
Room 14015, April 9, 2016
Our day started today with many kisses
You were on your way out the door to Southern California 'til the fourteenth
And I was on my way to Las Vegas, then to New Orleans
When you said bye and closed my apartment door behind you
A heavy feeling fell upon me, it hit me in a very real way
That we'll live the rest of our lives together
And that gives me so much happiness and comfort
But it also hit me harder than ever before that one day we'll say goodbye for a final time
Every day we get closer and closer to death
I have no illusions of an afterlife
And have no idea how much longer I have on this planet
Or what my quality of life will be in five, ten, fifteen years
Where will our final goodbye be? What condition will I be in?
And how will your health be? Are we even sure we'll be in the same place when one of us has to go?
I don't like goodbyes
I've had enough last goodbyes with people to know that it's the most painful emotion in the world
I don't want to live for eternity, life is filled with too much sorrow
My mind keeps flashing to a woman I saw recently
Of her and her son asleep in the car on the Tenderloin on a very hot day
They were in a tow-away zone and looked to be completely passed out
She had a big map open on her lap
But I knocked on the door and though she couldn't speak to me she was okay
My biggest hope in life is that you are beside me when I die
I've lived many lifetimes in forty-nine years
But the best time of my life is of my days and years spent with you
I'm getting older and my stomach is bloated and feels off
I burp too much, I'm that middle-aged guy with a gut that I never thought I'd be
And here I am in Las Vegas
Family men with bellies bigger than mine are walking around with Guns N' Roses t-shirts
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>>72667961
i have a theory he was gonna kill himself but the stress of being in a band that amazing killed him first
>>72668161
luv u phil
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>>72668243
Obviously murdered. Who the fuck really thinks he killed himself?
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>>72667961
pretty sure he died of aids or something. he was gay, and it's not uncommon for japanese media to cover up this sorta thing
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>>72668243
but hes attempted suicide before, why is it unreasonable to assume that he tried it again
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Victor Tsui got murdered by the KGB.
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>>72669437
Who?
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>>72669437
>>72669450
im with anon on this, who?
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>>72669350
>he was gay
Was he?
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>>72669437
The guy from KINO?
probably.
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>>72669355
>guy has loud argument with girlfriend in apartment
>she decides to take a shower
>he goes to the kitchen
>he writes a suicide note "I'm so sorry — love, Elliott. God forgive me."
>stabs himself in through the chestplate with one stab, no hesitation wound or nothing
>girlfriend hears him scream, so she gets out of the shower she was taking
>he's standing there with a knife standing out of his chest
>girlfriend removes the knife from his chest before he collapses

>"seems surreal that he would call me to finish an album and then a week later kill himself" -Elliott's producer
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>>72667961
N-n-no! He did not kill himself! That's impossible!
I'm sorry OP, but I REFUSE to believe your bullshit!
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>>72669437
>CIA backed traitor gets executed

Not surprising.
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>>72669350
idk I remember in the last Fishmans thread they were talking about his apparent long-time gf and she was a real qt
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>>72668139
Excuse me sir, did I hear that right?
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>>72669767
Don't forget- he misspelled his own name in his suicide note

One of those "really makes u think" cases.
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>>72669882
Archive link?
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>>72670010
No, they misspelled his name in the coroner's report
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>>72669767
It was two stabs....
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>>72670010
that one was apparently a misunderstanding based on a spelling error in the police report but still, pretty much everything in that case points to murder.
what kind of a guy kills himself by stabbing himself through the chestplate when there another person in the house unless he wanted to frame that person? (and obviously if he wanted to frame her he wouldn't have written that suicide note)
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>>72670153
holy shit I wasn't even aware of that, now I went from 90% sure he was murdered to 100%
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>>72669835
dont worry anon op is faggot and a liar
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>>72670229
autopsy report questioning the suicide
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All this talk about Elliott Smith and no ones talking about Kurt Cobain's obvious murder.

>>72668024
this too
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>>72670542
we don't need to discuss it because he was so obviously murdered by Courtney Love
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>>72670542
>>72670998
Nah, dude, it happens all the time. You're telling me that, where you're from, it ISN'T commonplace to have people miraculously shoot themselves with their toe... while their shoes are on and they're on enough heroin to kill an elephant?
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>>72671086
yeah that makes way more sense
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>>72670439
How does one stab himself twice?
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>>72671157
how the fuck do you stab yourself in the chest twice? wouldn't you cut some muscles required to even hold the knife up with the first stab?
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>>72669767
Although his death being murder is more possible than the other cases like this, the circumstances also don't point *away* from suicide. The comment from his producer is a point of view from someone who doesn't really understand bipolar/depression; you can be on top of the world one day and then an argument sets you off and you spiral insanely quickly.
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>>72669437
holy shit, there's a theory that Viktor & КИHO were CIA plants? that's fucking crazy
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nothing this man has been involved with has been remotely good
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>>72671686
He looks grumpy
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>>72671228
he fell on the shards of a broken lamp after stabbing himself
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>>72668243
Elliott smith killing himself is a pretty harsh truth
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>>72668243
The one thing I don't get about the murder theory is what is Chiba's motive? I guess she could have just snapped in a fit of anger and hastily made it look like a suicide. I have read stories that she seemed very controlling of Elliott. Still, she wasn't married to him so she wasn't entitled to any of his earning. I think she even tried to sue his family for money but the case didn't go anywhere. I remember reading on an old Elliott Smith website (can't remember what it was but it wasn't Sweet Adeline) that someone who lived nearby went by the house a night after his death and saw a van loading stuff into it with a girl that was likely Chiba. I wonder if she was just moving her stuff or taking Elliott's stuff before family and friends could work the situation out. She's acted really shitty about the whole thing, but I don't think that makes her a murderer. She also dated Rivers Cuomo, so it seems she was just an opportunist/gold digger.
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>>72671686
go listen to Duk Koo Kim and eat crow
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>>72668052
>A pretentious hack will die in your lifetime
>Harsh
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>>72671957
She killed him cause she was a pathetic crazy bitch.

RIP Elliott
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>>72671686
Have you even listened to anything he has been involved in?
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