Will ever there be a next Nirvana? Or are future generations

mac demarco after he commits suicide

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>Leave Nirvana to me

>>72650955
hopefully this time we will just skip the whole music making part and just fast forward to the suicide

For a long time I had this theory: the impossibility of a female Kurt Cobain. What he represents, leaning against the system and yet supported by consumers, there was no woman in the world that could command the masses so utterly. The music industry wouldn't let her. This thing I've been stewing about since I saw Grimes play to 20 people in 2011, and started reading her Tumblr, and then really starting feeling when "Oblivion" came out, is that Claire is the closest thing we have to a female Kurt Cobain, smart enough to understand the system but righteous enough to wall-jump away from it. But also, interestingly, what an inversion her approach is to Kurt's. His pose was anti-establishment, her pose is post-structural. He was rigorous, she is always looking outward, game for genre-experimentation and hilarity. I feel like even if I don't like her music, and I do so far, I will always feel like she's several steps ahead of me, several books ahead of me, and that makes me feel really fucking good. Anyone who gives her grief about anything can kick rocks as far as I'm concerned.

>>72650958
He's too happy to commit suicide

I don't want him to die :((((

DEATH GRIPS YUH !!!!!!!!!!!

>>72650980
death grips are the insane clown posse of this generation

>woop woop
>yuh yuh
it fits

Youth angst and anger will always have a place, so I don't doubt another will come.

>>72650972
Hopefully she kills herself too

>>72650958
>>72650972
>>72650980
lmao

>>72650965
kek

>>72650955
that was lorde. now her imitators (alessia cara, halsey, daya) are dominating the charts like their imitators (nickelback, creed) did.

>>72651021
lorde is the female bones

There are no 'next _______'s. There's nothing to gain from acting like a thing that exists needs to exist again.

Sort of reminds of this random guy who, years ago, argued at me unprovoked that Animal Collective's best album is MPP because it's their Sgt Pepper and went on to randomly assign the other 2 Animal Collective albums he knew to Beatles albums as if that arbitrary comparison makes any sense.

>>72650996
Yeah, thats why they are the nirvana of this generation

>>72650968
>muh edgy I dont like nirvana autist

>>72651098
not my fault they had no single good album to their name

>>72650997
Yeah but what about the great music?

Nirvana is insanely underrated. Kurt had one of the best senses for good melodies ever. Literally ever single song on Nevermind is catchy as fuck with strokes of genius. The whole thing got too famous to the point it became a meme but the music is there.

>>72651064
Sounds like you're the retard in this situation.

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>>72651121

>>72650972
lol grimes is a fucking retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf9HBZRq2eg

Paul McCartney would have liked to be on Nirvana:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uHUgazg0K0

anyone that thinks Nirvana was bad is memeing

>>72650972
the main problem is that kurt had talent

>>72651008

>>72651276
not true btw

Trap and EDM are more antiestablishment than contemporary rock music is.

>>72651389
stop posting

>>72651567
>offended by the truth
go back to /r/eddit

>>72651276
see
>>72651567

yung lean

>>72651136
>Kurt had one of the best senses for good melodies ever. Literally ever single song on Nevermind is catchy as fuck with strokes of genius. The whole thing got too famous to the point it became a meme but the music is there.
agreed

people always overlook the guitar smashing element of kurt cobain

>>72650955
A lot of music is surprisingly similar to old stuff but just needs to be looked for. You probably won't find the new Nirvana on the mainstream radio, or maybe not at all. You could find something better.

>>72651136
Yeah but the other three are better.

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Adolescence is liking nirvana
Adulthood is realizing weezer is the better 90s rock band

>>72651415
this is true

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We already have our next Kurt Cobain.

>>72651748
Weezer are even worse than Nirvana. At least Nirvana didn't write Tired of Sex.

>>72651415
How? They are the establishment.

If Nirvana never existed, and some band made Nevermind today, would it be as acclaimed?

>>72650955
No. In this age only bands willing to whore themselves for promotion will blow up. Genuine musicians die in the gutter

Kid Cudi. Being 100% honest here.

Why would anyone want this?

>>72652038
Yeah, it was completely different back in the day. Bands didn't have to whore themselves out. No siree.

>>72651764
What? While in my opinion Weezer isn't as good as Nirvana I wouldn't call them worse. You can feel the emotion in their s/t and Pinkerton just like the emotion in Nirvana's music.
>>72651748
Are you forgetting everything after Pinkerton and before EWBAITE?

>>72652248
really it was a matter of all the music of the time was fake plastic shit, nirvana came out and hit us with some realiti, and the frustration we had all been feeling, i'll never forget the day SMTS aired on MTV, my life changed
thank god they killed the glam-bands
also i don't care what people think, Tori's version is just as haunting, just in a different way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pekuZglq-Sg

>>72650955
Bush was the next Nirvana

>>72650955
It's all dying, music will just be functional.

>>72650955
>Will ever there be a next Nirvana?

no

white people and guitar based music is over

Sombody on this board ounce said clarence clarity, that seems like a possibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOZKz_sPM6U

how isn't this one of the best performances ever?

>>72651622
see
>>72653032

>>72653032
Because we're older than 18 and have heard more than corporate entry level shite.

>>72650955
Saw the chili peppers in march in seattle, used to listen to I'm with you on my way to work every day. No EDM or Trap for me dawgy

>>72653080
what music do you like then if you can't enjoy that

>>72651921
No. It would be still a great album, with some mainstream appeal but that's all. Nowadays it wouldn't blow up.

The era of rock bads on their garages blowing up and becoming rich is over. The entire idea of people isolated due no internet and coming up with their own thing is just over.

Also in 1993 Nevermind sounded like the future of rock music and still does in a way, the production is really fresh and clean.

But it wouldn't reach mainstream appeal I think. Who knows desu.

>>72653143
probably merzbow or some aspie shit

>>72652524
This desu.

Kurt said in an interview, that when kids dont care about rock and roll anymore, the world would explode.

I wonder what mainstream (and alternative) music in 2037 will be like.

It feels like everything has been done.

>>72653198
thats actually pretty cool senpai

>>72652729
How? im listening to "Not Now" and it's just bleeps n bloops.

>>72653267
Popular music may just be a temporary phenomena, even folk may succumb to technology and globalization.

>>72651415
I agree that rock isnt anti establishment anymore but you must be baiting to say edm and trap are at all anti establishment

>>72653267
yeah, lets listen to what the suicidal faggot had to say about the "world exploding".

also you clearly don't listen to new music if you think "everything has been done". like jesus, that's the most retarded statement someone could say about music

>>72653593
He wasn't a "suicidal faggot".
>My, there's this huge gaping wound in my head from that shotgun I just used to kill myself with
>Better wipe my fingerprints clean from the gun before anyone finds my dead body

>>72650955
What do you mean by 'next Nirvana'? If you're talking about a genuinely good artist who takes a previously underground genre mainstream, then yes. If you're talking about subversion, Nirvana weren't really all that subversive, so yes. If you're talking critically acclaimed, popular, slightly edgy and has a messed up personal life, then yes, you could even argue that Kanye fills that niche.

Nirvana were great, but they weren't genius innovators so much as Kurt was a songwriter who knew how to mix punk, indie rock, and pop into something that appealed to basically everyone.

>>72653181
>The entire idea of people isolated due to no internet and coming up with their own thing is just over

If Nirvana were isolated then they wouldn't have made Nevermind because they Kurt never would have heard the Pixies.

>>72653593
Link me to some recent music that sounds "new"

inb4 excuses to not put links

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*ahem*

>>72653731
top kek

>>72653705
Not that guy but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVyGxlgeAjc&ab_channel=xdannyxbrownxVEVO

>>72653691
>pixies
Yes, but you would need to search for stuff, there's not infinite access to all music on the planet

Also the pixies sound nothing like nirvana, i never got this meme.

>>72653788
Nearly every single Nirvana song is built on the Pixies' quiet-loud-quiet formula

>>72653782
It's just rapping and the instrumentals aren't anything i haven't heard before.

I havent heard anything mind blowing since 2001 Aphex Twin in terms of composition, drum programing etc.

Then Burial came up with a really unique vibe

Noisia took dnb production to the next level

Skrillex pushed "brostep" to the limit with Scary Monsters (even fantano gave it a 7.5)

Ive only heard trap shit since then and some weirdos like Death Grips but there's nothing remarkable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1hwH1tk8ig

>>72653865
but the sound is completely different

>>72653930
>even fantano gave it a 7.5
>people actually use that to try and further their point

wow

>>72653979
I felt like if I didnt said that people would troll me for praising skrillex

>>72653930
Find me some other hip-hop that sounds like Atrocity Exhibition.

As far as mind-blowing, you're moving the goalposts. You asked for something that sounded new and I gave it to you.

If you're going to be really pedantic though, how about Flying Lotus, Holly Herndon, Young Thug, Shabazz Palaces, Ben Frost, Anna Meredith, or Amnesia Scanner?

>>72651056
wrong

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>>72651189
this

>>72650972
this board is for 18+

>>72651136
>Nirvana is insanely underrated.
You mean overrated. Ultimately, they're a pop bad that managed to cash into teenage angst by being "authentic". True, the fact that they did that overshadows their actual musical chops, but the fact remains.

To be fair, all popular musicians are overrated one way or another, in that they're all considered untouchably mythic when they really aren't.

>>72654098
Flying Lotus really pushed the compression to ridiculous levels, not sure about the rest.
Young Thug? lol

Give me something that makes me go "wow" of this tier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RDWkgq2Waw

>>72650955
It was nickleback

>>72654203
Again, you asked for something new, not something that wowed you. Show me anything else that sounds like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjN5-f2MNWM&ab_channel=YoungThug

>>72650955
justin bieber was the second coming of cobain senpai

>>72654239
Just lol, any modern trap.

>>72654259
How did you manage to miss the vocals?

>>72654239
>it's a generic trap song
Kurt Cobainfags take his dick too far up their asses to think straight, guess you're a Young Thugfag. I guess in that way they're similar.

Nirvana made better music though.

>>72654307
I didnt. Not remarkable enough.

>>72654203
>Flying Lotus really pushed the compression to ridiculous levels

I think that's not really FlyLo's invention. If anything, it's already kind of a feature of this age of audio (Kanye does it a lot, for example). If you wanna be pedantic, Merzbow did that shit already in the 90s.

FlyLo's one of the best, but for different reasons than being like Kurt Cobain.

>>72651415
the only true antiestablishment genre around today is NSBM

>>72654361
There are easier ways to say that you don't listen to hip-hop

>>72654203
>it's another IDM track
Don't get me wrong, it's good, but you're just an Aphex Twin fanboy who overrates him to unreasonable levels.

>>72654366
Flylo did it in the beats in a different way, kind of like Clark.

Merzbow is just a mess.

They are good but my point is, theres nothing really new anymore.

>>72653930
>It's just rapping and instrumentals aren't anything i haven't heard before

Show me a rap song that sounds like that, then.

>>72654394
You are fucking insane. That was released in 2001. Nobody programs beats like that in 2017, but find me anything like that pre 2001.

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>>72653930
>he's a fantanodrone
>he unironically thinks EDM is innovative

>>72654415
Thats not the point. My point is there is nothing legit new anymore.

>>72654443
heres your (You)

>>72650955
its me

>>72654430
>find me x

It's that "you didn't find exactly what I asked for so I'll dismiss your point" argument
what a pleb

Anyway, your line of argumentation is stupid, just because nobody did the exact same thing as Yung Lean before he came out doesn't mean he's any good. Uniqueness ≠ good
It also misses the point entirely about you overrating him.

>>72650955
anything w/gtr/bass/drums/vox will be considered retro in some regard.. even if the band doesn't intend to be


it's done

>>72654394
>Young Thug fag calls Aphex Twin's magnus opus overrated
not unexpected

>>72654409
>Merzbow is just a mess

That's fine if you want to think that. But that has nothing to do with Merzbow making technical innovations. Hooray, you've managed to completely miss the point of the post! Congratulations!


>theres nothing really new anymore
Considering what you mean by "really new" is just your arbitrary definition, it's a stupid distinction that doesn't matter to anyone but you!

>>72654239
come on man

>>72654506
Aphex Twin advanced and pushed drum programing into unparalleled territory with that album, and the overal track writting is good as fuck in the way the tracks evolve, the melodies, everything. You are comparing this to some nigger blablering on top of a 2013 trap beat and expecting to get away with it.

>>72654569
Not who you responded to but holy crap you suck at arguing. You asked for something new and and when you got it you said it wasn't as good as Aphex Twin. It doesn't matter what your opinion of Young Thug is, the point is that his vocals, for better or worse, are something new.

>>72654610
>his vocals, for better or worse
only if you listen to trap shit

do you even krautrock? alternative rock? avant-garde? any hip-hop before young thug?

retarded swine

kill yourself

>>72654610
Okay lets change "new" to breaking new ground.

How can music break any new ground anymore?

The production is as clean as it gets, and the programing/composition got pushed to the limits already.

So it's sad to see in 20 years from now, nothing will be really breaking any new grounds other than subgenres that are ultimately memes like vaporware.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYV2fKdpjYs

I remember when this came out I was like what the fuck, how is that even possible?

20 years from now there will still be nothing like that.

>>72651056
Very. Wrong

>>72654669
>I hate Young Thug so I'll disregard that this guy isn't saying Young Thug is good just that he's doing something that other people aren't

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>>72654610
>Not who you responded to

>>72652182
That makes sense.

>>72653731
Exactly.

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>>72650972
>Grimes
>good
I'm dead.

>>72654706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMccwa-0vA

>>72650972
shiggy diggy

>>72651709
That was ripped from Pete Townshend

i always pictured kurt and krist laying low somewhere in canada planting crops and taking care of farm animals away from the publics eye but still playing music in the barn some nights or something. i dont known ive got a lame imagination.

>>72651064
glad i'm not alone in realizing this

>>72655581
well pete didnt invent it either but my point is he was way way into it for somebody from his scene

>>72654443
Grunge was innovative?

>>72656502
the small amount of grunge out there confuses me.
You know, after it got so popular.

>>72650958
When will this meme die

Mac DeShmarco will die happily and of old age, sucking on his gf and eventual wife's cow tits

Great thread

>>72656487
What do you mean by scene? If you mean for a relatively mainstream band, then the Who and various rock acts had also incorporated guitar smashing.

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>>72654240
NUH UH! REAL MUSIC ONLY

Nirvana was great
Pealr Jam was boring dad rock
Soundgardern had 1 good song

>>72650972
you grimethfags are becoming unbearable.

>>72651415
maybe when trap first started getting popular and was super aggressive but definitely not now.

>>72656626
>old age
he's dying of lung cancer let's be honest

There already was Nirvana. Why do we need another one?

>>72651764
>le Tired of Sex is bad meme
Why the fuck do people shit on the best song so much?

>>72651121
edgy faggot

>>72651764
Tired of Sex is great, ok?

>>72650955
Rock will always exist but I don't think it will ever be truly the mainstream again
It's becoming a niche genre like jazz that is always around and will always have an audience but largely ignored by the average music listener
Which is not actually bad, rock is better in small clubs than in stadiums anyway

>>72651415
As much as I love hip-hop/r&b/edm
They're all part of the establishment.

>>72652465
Hmm that first part feels soo familiar right now.

>>72658796
Soundgarden is better than Nirvana and Pearl Jam
They're one of those bands like Deep Purple where the song they're most known for isn't really representative of their sound as a whole

>>72652565
Lol check kendricks album idiot

>>72654391
Travis Scott is way better than young thug.

>>72653788
lawls, looks like someone doesn't know shit

>>72654391
Honestly I think the point everyone is trying to make is that they want an artist/band who appeals to an amazing amount of people, has talent, the image(come on people we know this helps too), and most importantly the music. It just seems nowadays that while there are good songwriters in every genre a lot of things kind of hold them back. For example, rock musicians even new ones are so stubborn that they won't even experiment with anything, hip-hop is being dominated by munbleness inb4 you say Le wrong gen. Good party music is fun, but when it's all the time. It gets pretty tiring. Pop is just trash with the same dancehall-esque songs being churned out or the same four piano chords and then a huge anthemic chorus( also millenial whoop needs to die), and even worst of all experimental music has no wow factor to it anymore. It just seems like all noise( if you're planning to make something trippy and experimental at least try to make it good.

>>72654443
Dubstep was innovative for a good four years then it died off like any musician movement. Why? Because everyone copied the formula .

>>72654509
Ehh I don't think so. Tbh as much as I hate death grips they sound like the music of the future.

>>72660378
You literally don't know what dancehall means.

>>72650955
i seriously hope nothing like nirvana ever happens again

grunge is the worst genre

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>>72654569
I agreed with you until you started sounding like a fucking idiot using the N word. Congratulations , you played yourself

>>72659030
Idk man.
My uncle smoked like 2 packs a day and this was back in the 90s.
He died at the age of 93.
In his sleep soo yeah.

>>72660166
>Rock will never be like jazz.
>it's easier to play and sounds youthful.
>thanks to having the internet, the new generations will find out about rock due to their parents probably being into it around this time.
>even though rock has been around since the 50's it still relates to kids today and tomorrow.
>doesn't matter if it's not in the mainstream anymore.

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>>72660425
There is plenty of songs with dancehall-ish songs on the radio. The Staccato chord progressions, the driving rocksteady beats, the chill relaxing feeling the songs bring, and thanks to western world influence the huge anthemic choruses.

>>72660166
Jazz actually has been popular, but in the form of hip-hop.
Same way rock has been popular in the form of any bleep music.

>>72660669
never post again

>>72660732
Bleep fag or jazz fag?

the question is why would we want another nirvana

>>72660639
But not every pop song, or like even 1% of all pop songs. So that was still a retarded post.

>>72653616
Actually the bullet lodged in his brain.

>>72660750
neither you're just wrong on all accounts

>>72660817
Well I did exaggerate it, but only because i hear the radio at work and desu they all sound the same.

>>72650955
>implying grunge is in any way superior or better than trap/EDM

fuck this board is hilarious

>>72660831
rock fag or hip-hop fag?

>>72660855
neither, like I said you're just stupid
>>72660847
all three of those genres are equally terrible

>>72660847
>implying trap/EDM isn't total fucking trash
LOL

Look up NOTHING

>>72650955
Grunge was a mistake.

>>72660876
Classical fag or pop fag?

>>72660906
Just like anime and trap.

>>72660876
Exactly

>>72660887
They're all total trash

>>72660557
I'm not saying it will be like jazz musically,
just that it will have the same level of mainstream popularity

>>72660956
why are you in a thread discussing all three? stop avoiding taking sides that's what pussies do.

>>72661189
Why are you discussing any of them on this music board.

>>72650955

Eminem was the last one, and there hasn't been one since.

>>72661264
Because it's a music board? Do you have some mental illness?