/prod/ Music Production General

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what's up my dudes, just trying a new genre here :^)

https://clyp.it/0qpk3w0u

forgive the lead melody, i'm still trying to sort that out

>>72650678

better than a lot of stuff posted here

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>mfw Omnisphere
Pirating it was a hassle but totally worth it.

>>72650678
Way too upbeat and loud for my taste.

Preferences aside, sounds pretty well made.

can someone post the stickies pls? I want to start getting into music production. currently reading Audio Engineering 101 by Timothy Dittmar

>LEARNING RESOURCES

(Obligatory mixing course)
>The Art of Mixing by David Gibson
https://youtu.be/TEjOdqZFvhY [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

(Obligatory synthesis course + additional related videos)
>Intro to Synthesis by New York School of Synthesis
https://youtu.be/atvtBE6t48M [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

YouTube channels that you should subscribe to:

>Point Blank Music School
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIWNozFjO8yVdJFsGKVmPgg

>Pensado's Place
https://www.youtube.com/user/PensadosPlace

>SeamlessR (in-depth music production and sound design tutorials, based on FL Studio)
https://www.youtube.com/user/SeamlessR

>BusyWorksBeats (same as above, a lot of good new content coming)
https://www.youtube.com/user/busyworksbeats

>ADSR Music Production Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf5UKh_cj2_5pUomhyswWYQ

>Justin Omoi
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMnmXvv9JHJPsrrob-gEn5A

>WarBeats
https://www.youtube.com/user/nfxbeats/videos

>Samori Coles (not many videos, but a few good ones on compression and EQ)
https://www.youtube.com/user/homestudiotutor/videos

>Modern Mixing
https://www.youtube.com/user/ModernMixing/videos

>Image Line Tutorials (for FL Studio users)
https://www.youtube.com/user/imageline/playlists

>READ THIS BEFORE ASKING WHERE TO BEGIN

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First dabble on that chill LoFi shit
I think I made some sounds too quiet
Any way to improve?

https://clyp.it/23nlv523

>>72651213
>https://clyp.it/23nlv523
Kick could be louder. I like the drift to the keys, would be nice if they were noisier and significantly quieter tho. They overpower everything but the snare. Hard to judge much else because it's quiet as fuck. Seems nice tho. Some of the worst overall levels I've seen DESU which is a shame because it seems like a nice track. Should be an easy fix tho.

>>72650678
Too sonic the hedgehog sounding for my taste, but seems good if that's what you're going for

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I feel like this thing is iconic as a Fender Strat or a Les Paul

hey omnisphere users

post a song of yours that uses it and what it's doing

https://clyp.it/t5rtf4d2

I need advice on how to mix at around the 1:30 mark when the reverb piano joins in. It sounds way too busy. How would I go about panning and making room for the piano. I currently have the wailing pattern and the static noise rhythm and the bass at 0% pan, the synth that mimics the bass 25% left and the piano at 25% right

>>72651881
get real dude, no one but people /into/ music know what that is, but people hear about les paul and strats from the plethora of bedroom guitarists and rock bands in the world

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this is way worse than i expected

http://www.airwindows.com/

Chris released Iron Oxide 5, a tape emulation, for Windows and free.

>>72651964
Nah. For a lot of musicians Moog is synonymous for synthesizer. Most people don't know what Les Pauls or Strats are called.

Sure the synthesizer doesn't have the status of the guitar yet but they will.

yo what should i get if im finna play the piano and add my own sounds to keys and do bass n shit
/new

What instrument does /mu/ think is the sexiest when played?

https://strawpoll.com/d356ccy

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Synth1 things:

Enable chorus / flanger and turn depth to 0 to add a resonance similar to a physical body. It can also add a metallic tone to cymbals.

Use a low Q EQ boost to bring back frequencies that have been filtered out or accentuate enveloped filter plucks.

>>72651213
What did you use for the keys? I really, really like everything about it except for the levels. The drums need to be louder, and the keys need to be a little quieter. You might want to try using pink noise to set the levels initially and tweak from there. Here's a very short how-to video on the topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsV4mGTLB8s

If you google "mixing with pink noise," you can find stuff that's a lot more in depth if you want.

>>72651953
Anybody?

>>72652336
Nah, most people associate electronic music with computers rather than synths. Besides synths are not as flashy.

>>72651881
What would the Jazzmaster of the synth world be?

>>72652671
Juno 106

>>72652671
Korg M1

>>72650759
enjoy using it for a total of two days and realizing most of its 60 gb size is burning pianos

>>72652769
The basses are quality tho.

>>72651953
>>72652613
I'm not a pro or anything, but...

Generally, it's best to mix things in mono, using EQ and other tools to separate things. You can use panning, reverb, etc. later to add a sense of space, but you don't necessarily want that to be your only way of making instruments distinguishable from one another. You'll want your mixes to sound good in mono, too (in case somebody is listening in mono, like on a smartphone). Maybe consider boosting the highs and upper mids on the piano and making lead synth slightly quieter during that part.

Basically as far as EQing goes, you don't want too many instruments to take up the same frequency range. There will obviously be lots of overlap, but it helps if each one has its own space.

Honestly, the notes themselves at the end didn't make much sense to me (piano and lead synth). If notes are clashing, it can make things sound muddy sometimes.

Hope some of that helped.

>>72652848
post something you used them in. what's the cpu and memory hit?

>>72652884
panning, adding reverb, etc will alter your mix, definitely don't want to wait until the end to do that.

absolutely check your mix in mono though. if your daw doesn't have a plugin for it, get a stereo adjustment tool and set it to mid only. it'll help you make sure your track adds up properly in the middle of the stereo field as well, not just for mono speaker systems.

>>72652884
Thanks for the advice. What part about the end didn't make sense? Do they just not fit musically, or is the mixing that doesn't sound good?

>>72652943
>post something you used them in
I just downloaded it so I'm still playing around with it, idk about the cpu but it does use a lot. My laptop is shitty so it barely handles it.

>>72652710
this

https://clyp.it/wcxgc3hj

quick attempt at a dance track i guess

some feedback please!
https://clyp.it/bpvx5rvn

>>72651213
i think you could use auto filters to clear out the muddy beginning with overlapping frequencies and then transition in. As mentioned by another, kicks could be a little louder as well

>>72654813
>https://clyp.it/bpvx5rvn
Fairly crisp and well produced but also painfully generic and uninteresting. The little distorted pluck things halfway thru are awful as well. Can't make out the bass really.

Rant here, why the fuck do producers , even really good producers not fucking develop their themes? Its the same fucmking melody spamming for 2-3 minutes until the fucking breakdown.

Learn some fucking theory.

>>72656266
Because once you've found the 'ideal' phrasing for a melody any variation of it sounds wrong.

>>72656297
>any variation of it sounds wrong.
Youre a pleb

>open window
>put on hoodie
>snort some water for that fresh from the pool smell
>open synth1
i made a fuck cymbal
https://clyp.it/o12iabmn

can't figure out a good cymbal but a fuck cymbal? boy i got it.

enharmonically tuned squares stacked up gets a good metallic base, but there's some ratio i'm not finding.

>>72656315
>Dismissing people trying to answer your stupid questions.

>>72656375

>implying your stupid answer doesn't deserve to be dismissed.

>>72656266
Hey buddy I don't need people thinking I'm pretentious when all they want to do is pop their pussy. If someone has to stop and think about what's happening in the song then I'm fucked, I fucked up, because that's where electronic music falls apart.

>>72656297
I think people just aren't varying it well. I've seen some guy make braindead uh, what's that fucking genre with the annoying booming kick and heavily reverbed pluck, music on YouTube and make great melodies that varied. He seemed sold on the idea that keeping the different versions of the melody "symmetrical" (same general pitch up and down shape) while breaking it for tension was the key to successful variations and I'm inclined to agree with him.

>>72656442
>electronic music falls apart.

No thats where it becomes the under-developed shit most of it is now.

https://clyp.it/2s4icwzn

a little stuck on what to do for the bass part. using FL and was wondering what kind of bass synth would be good for this sort of beat.

>>72656526
maybe a quick bluppy staccato bass and replace your repeating kicks with it, maybe a dark lowpassed reese legatoing around, maybe an upright bass put through 24 MP3s

>>72651881
Literally ruined synth fug bub moog and fug keybeds.

>>72656666
good post number friend.

>>72651386
Thank you!
I'm really bad as mixing, so that can be very useful!

I'm using one of ableton's stock instruments (hard keys, or something like that) with the settings adjusted, and then iZotope Vynil, some reverb, an EQ, and a compressor to slightly sidechain th keys with the input from the kicks
I also put a slight flanger on the master

>>72652769
You are bullshiting, Omnisphere 2 has almost everything. I've been using it for months and I still find new amazing shit every day.

https://clyp.it/lti4mtg0

Thoughts on this?

>>72656666
t. bugla, sergay :DDDD

>>72657748
>https://clyp.it/lti4mtg0

The intro's pretty nice, and so is the ending, but that whole part in the middle is just difficult to listen to.
There doesn't seem to be any dynamics, everything is so loud all the time.
I'm also not sure if the whole dissonance in the background is working on your favour, but after you make it more dynamic, it might just improve.

>>72657797
Cheers, i'll endeavor to change the middle.
Are the vocals that come in part of the 'middle' or the 'end'?

>>72657817
I considered the end as the part with the vocals.
They sound really nice, and I think you're on to something there!

>>72651213

I took your suggestions and mixed the track again.
Any feedback?

https://clyp.it/xyebc2mi

>>72657826
Thanks!
Appreciate it.
Want me to provide feedback on anything?

>>72652605
Just want to give this a (you) because using pink noise mixing is very good advice for getting a quick and good first set of levels.

>>72656266
Sometimes its because they are unable, but its also worth remembering that not all music is an exploration of melody.

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messing with d-pole, shits amazing. one of the best vst filters i've used in a long time.

https://clyp.it/lwlcqepu

made some french-house thingy yo

how can a waveform have harmonics

when was the last time you checked craigslist? lots of cool stuff out there

>>72658800
harmonics are just multiples of the root frequency so you can fit two full repeating waves of the second harmonic in the space of the fundamental, three of the third, four of the fourth, and so on. just imagine stacking sine waves that get faster and faster.

>>72658812
how do harmonics define the waveform

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>>72658845
they just add up

you could put an oscilloscope in your daw and watch the waveform of a saw or square change as you filter it down to the fundamental with a lowpass filter and watch it build back up

>>72655797
what's that?

>>72658845
To add to what the other anon said, harmonics are a built in part of sound. They are part of the fundamental. They are measured out of the original

First time trying to track and mix using ableton, looking for some general feedback.

https://clyp.it/otjaaivx

>>72659250
Sounds very muddy and uncohesive.

>>72659288
Fair call, thanks for the feedback

>>72654813
>well produce

nigger are you deaf?

>>72659023
I think it's a cheap Korg Poly 800 someone has modded a cheap computer into. Looks like it has some other (circuit bent?) mods too.

https://learningmusic.ableton.com/

This is really cool. I'm having fun going thru it even tho I'm not really learning anything so far.

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dark "electro" track i made, not drexiyan but going more for a cyberpunk sci-fi feeling, what do you think. Its kind of repetitive but thats how I like it

https://clyp.it/uh3njr4c

how do you 'tune' fl studio

what i mean is - the default note is always C. Can the user change that

>>72660799
From the left of the metronome there is a master pitch slider which you can automate.

>>72660059
I think this cured my writers block. Weird what stripping something like a sequencer back to its bare minimum can do for your creativity.

>>72660909
Yeah, if you struggle with creativity just add more constraints to yourself, it always helps.

>>72661016
It makes sense to be honest. If you took a piano and removed a bunch of notes at random you'd probably come up with shit you wouldn't have even imagined otherwise. Or playing with a drum that has no plates. You'd come up with different stuff trying to make up for the lack of hats, then add them later for a more complete sound.

>>72659896
i wouldn't wanna work on a screen that small, but i really like the idea of a qwerty keyboard being built into a midi keyboard, would be a great space saver

>>72661587
Im fairly sure those exists, but its proved kinda hard to google on midi keyboard + keybaord

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I always feel like my tracks need more things going on in them but im never sure the line between too much or too litlle

Does this track have enough going on to rap or sing over?

https://clyp.it/ckyok2e0

>>72661587
>>72661828
piano an qwerty combo gave a few results but it's not really saving space, it's basically a small midi keyboard with a qwerty keyboard behind it and tacked on

>>72652671
Juno-60 = Stratocaster
Juno-106 = Jazzmaster
Jupiter-8 = Telecaster

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>>72651881
the only thing the comes close to that beauty

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Is there any evolutionary research into why people like music and react to certain timbres differently?

Like I was reading that lots of people hate the sound of nails down a blackboard because it tricks their lizard brain into thinking that they're biting into something that's breaking teeth. There's a similar evolutionary explanation for the 'hypnic jerk' - people get a falling sensation in their dreams and wake up because we used to sleep in trees when we were monkeys.

Is there anything like this for music? Could our love of music stem from ancestral memories of birdsong or babies crying?

>>72662774
I should have really googled this before typing all that out, its already a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_musicology

if anyone knows anything about this stuff feel free to chime in

>>72662774
Nails on a chalkboard doesn't sound like broken teeth, that's a crunch. Nails on chalkboard hurts because there's a lot of activity in the 3-5khz range which we're sensitive to, which is where baby cries and screams exist. http://www.livescience.com/57106-why-fingernails-on-chalkboard-hurts.html

>>72662961
It might have been the squeak of polystyrene. The sound was to do with the scraping of teeth when you had a stone in your food IIRC

Nails on chalkboard isn't that bad, knife on plate is where it's at.

>>72663007
the fucking marker writing through this entire song is probably the worst shit i have ever heard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E

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https://soundcloud.com/8th8th8th/whirring-tower

I know the lead synth is too harsh for the ears, but I don't know how to tone that down without losing the energy in the tone. ideas?

>>72663251
have you tried a compressor/limiter or eq?

>>72663307

yea but all three end up neutering the sound too much. I specifically want it to jump out and thrash about the track but some of the high notes just come across as too brash.

Im probably just doing something wrong though idk much about prodding yet

>>72663251
tone down the bitcrushy distortion

>>72663403

will try. apart from the mixing of it though, what do yall think of it

>>72662774
into psychoacoustics

>>72663432
get some structure in there and arrange it into a track
why are you even mixing it while it's still a short idea, first things first

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>>72663307
>>72663403
do not reply to soundcloud posters

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Got hold of one of these recently.

Fun toy. I need to get a new internal battery for it though, it's not saving anything.

I wanna buy a MIDI. I've never had one.
What should I look for in one? I'm in low budge but I'd rather save up more than buy something not good enough.

Also any tips on buying microphones would be appreciated.

>>72664665
>Also any tips on buying microphones would be appreciated.
Tell the guy in the shop you need a microphone with a wide enough frequency response to record any timbre of fart you may do, from a low rumbler to a high squeaker.

>>72664719
I don't really trust the guys in the shop. Some are all right but a lot of them don't give a fuck and just wanna sell shit and get it over with.

>>72664770
What do you want to use the microphone for? Recording which instrument?

>>72664800
Voice mostly and electric guitar. Also random shit in general, like a fart.

>>72665022
Buy an SM58. It's industry standard and will be the only mic you'll need.

They do two models, the SM58 for vocals, and the SM57 for instruments. Little known fact is the only difference between the two is the SM58 has a built in pop screen (the fuzzy afro). So if you ever want to try recording using an SM57 for guitar, just pull the bobblehead off and you're good to go.

>>72664665
i would recommend atleast 49 keys. otherwise just look for one that has a combination of faders and pots that you find useful since that is the main difference between most of them.

maudio, novation, alesis, and akai are some good brands to check out.

>>72665122
I was thinking that there were other differences, even if they're subtle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYJ0kKoMlkU

any of you got some odd drum synthesis tips?

>>72666318
i like to use absynth for drums but what i like to do is make a trash can(best i can describe it) kinda sound in absynth then give it some attack. layer this with an 808 or acoustic kick and it gives it more thrust
i did it in my current WIP but idk if you can tell
https://clyp.it/turvmeao

>>72665875
>I was thinking that there were other differences, even if they're subtle.
Sodo most people.

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anyone got that discord link?

>>72667452
>discord
Nice try NSA

Current wip
https://clyp.it/q3amu1kd

Is this listenable?

>>72668143
nope

>>72668196
If you could tell me how much it sucks and why I'd appreciate it.

t. newfag

>>72668252
>https://clyp.it/q3amu1kd
Sounds pretty cheesey/chiptuney/carnivaley and then that talking bass comes in and it reaches maximum cheese.

The instruments sound rough and basic. Melodically it feels like a joke. I don't know who would really wanna put this on and listen to it and in what situation.

Having said that I don't think you're bad at writing music or a melody, I just doubt that was something you set out to write.

>>72668712
>I don't know who would really wanna put this on and listen to it and in what situation.
I was thinking of it as a game's BGM kind of thing.

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yo

I wanna use Addictive Drums with Ableton but the notes on the piano roll give no indication as to what sound they make.
Is there any way to label the notes? I know that in Reaper you could, I had a preset that had all the sound names.

>>72669087
You could make a dummy drum rack, name the individual drum kits in that and then route the MIDI from that channel into your superior drummer track.

>>72669285
drum hits*

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suh dudes, is my track well made enough to be ironically good/a meme?

https://clyp.it/ckxgapii

guys how do i get that record scratch pitch shift effect on vocals?

>>72669692
tons of ways. usually people use glitch2 for that effect. since i dont have it I cut the part i want to slow down then use fl automation ezpz

>>72668143
>https://clyp.it/q3amu1kd
sounds like the circus theme level from a ps1 era game

anyone know any good sites for pirating sound banks and patches and other goodies?

If you do glitch open this http://tiny-808.com/ in Firefox and set your user agent to Chrome

https://clyp.it/qpcj53nj

It sounds real fucked up in Firefox so he disabled it in Firefox to save your ears.

>>72670163
audioz.download and rutracker.org and soulseek depending on who's online

Got a 16-disc compilation album of 80s New Wave

I guarantee all of you have a made a song better than at least 5 songs in this.

>>72650063
Kaitlyn is too good for /prod/

>>72670520
It was harder back then.

can the difference of 1 bpm make a difference?
any examples?

https://clyp.it/e0d4cht3

just started out making tracks, cant tell if its good or if listening to it on repeat has numbed my ears to all of its blaringly obvious flaws

sampled drums because lazy (see: inadequacy)

>>72670831
Only if you're trying to sync different recordings together

Guillotine but the vocals are 1 BPM slower some few minutes in
https://clyp.it/idf20bel

>>72670866
I liked the first minute or so. After 2 minutes it lost me. The panning distorted chords pan a little too far. The chords at 0:33 and 0:35 don't fit and it sounds weird.

Like 0:50 or so when it gets distorted and the breakbeat comes in and filters between that and a synth kick and hihat it's real strong, and it's very unfortunate that you didn't continue with the energy level at 2:00 with the drum roll. The best parts reminded me of Amon Tobin's early work.

>>72670866
Not bad if you've just started out. Those chords at 0:30 sound wrong to me.

Some of the ambient noises and stuff are pretty slick. I like how it's structured but some of the little melodies and stuff seem kinda random. I'm impressed if you're just starting.

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Recently I have been experiencing amp "hum" issues since i've moved into my new apartment and I'm trying to figure out if it is emi or a grounding issue. I have a telecaster with single coil pick ups, but I never had any problems until i moved. Which leads me to believe it's a grounding issue. But I have also read online that EMI could be caused by light dimmers, CRT TVs, computer monitors, etc. I wanted to ask if there is a sure fire way to differentiate between the two. Sorry, I know this is a very long post but I would greatly appreciate any input.

>>72670866
>sampled drums because lazy (see: inadequacy)
who cares?

There's so many studios putting out loops and shit now it's hard to tell if anything is "handmade" or just pulled out of a loop pack.

And so what if it is?

At some point your production skill become adequate that you can make just as good drums by yourself, but it's still a tiresome hassle that kills a good workflow.

Just because you went and recorded the drums yourself wont make your music any better or more unique. (unless your music is all about sound design/soundscapes and little else)

Not to shit on anyone who does, but I dont get this shitting on people who uses drum loops just because they dont want to sit and mix snares and kicks untill their ears wear out. Cause that's what happens alot of the time, you start fixating on details and lose sight of the big picture. You lose all flow and drive because you're not in the same mode as you were 5 hours ago when you started the track.

>>72671477
Does it only happen when the guitar is plugged in? Might be the pickups picking up something and not an electrical issue.

Post a clip of the hum, though I reckon just about anything electronic that would make a hum would all have the same frequency of 60hz if you're in the US, 50hz otherwise.

>>72671496
It's just bare minimum effort. Do you wanna listen to something knowing it's a bunch of loops pulled out of a library?

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What kind of stuff do i need to emulate New order?

i know they use extremely vintage expensive gear

like some emu emulator 2 or the tr 808

but what are some VST's / cheap stuff that can do it?

i just got my first distortion pedal

were all gonna make it ;_;7

>>72671559
if it's loops of a melody or chords in a genre that's not specifically about sampling then no, if it's just drums where chances are you'd do the exact same pattern with less processing then whatever.

however if i recognize a garageband loop then it's immediately shit, don't care of jonathan davis himself wrote the song

>>72671611
Oberheim DMX samples, drum machines in general really. Some good acoustic drum libraries too.

For synths, Synth1 is free and will get a retro sound just fine. There's even patches out there specifically for emulating famous sounds. OB-Xd, Mono/Fury, Ragnarok, Stigma.

Effects you'll want something to warm it up so get everything from Variety of Sound. Real good reverb and tape delay and saturation and EQ.

I'm pretty sure your DAW comes with enough to emulate New Order right out of the box though.

>>72671559
>Do you wanna listen to something knowing it's a bunch of loops pulled out of a library?

Do you want to listen to a song, knowing they have just sampled a hook, melody or drums, added a bassline and rapped over it?

And why does it matter? You drag drum samples out of a library all the time.

Hell, guitarists buy certain gear because they want a certain sound, unless you're a guitarist with some very out of the ordinary playing style, you're going to sound like 99% of everybody else out there.

I am not talking about these soulless Big Room House Construction Sets 074 where you just drag and drop a whole song into your project and call it the day, I'm talking about drumloops here.

Whatever you build around it is up to you.

>>72656266
it takes longer to add variations
time = money

You'll understand when you have skills that can actually turn a profit, theory fag.

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Is it worth it?

>>72671977
"Teenage Engineering" "Portable Synthesizer" "$899.00"

If you're a trustfund kid, sure.

https://clyp.it/dtvs0o3m

Worth continuing this track? Any thoughts?

>Tfw never finish anything

>>72672078
Bass too loud.

>>72672078
would work as a soundtrack for a quirky indie game, outside of that context, I dont know.

>>72671977
Seems like a neat musical sketchpad, but the truth is that you're spending $900 on a workstation with a ton of limitations (albeit intentional) and way less functionality than a DAW. If you're into that sort of thing you might enjoy it. Depending on who you talk to, it's either a revolutionary and mindblowing device or a well marketed gimmick that ultimately amounts to little more than an extremely expensive toy. I've never actually used one but would buy one if I could afford to throw $900 around.

>>72672137
>>72672178
Thanks guys. Up to the next attempt I guess.

https://clyp.it/4uu4t1hh

Here is a my first serious production.

How do i make sound less cheesy?
Btw this is the exposition, at the end the beginning of the development begins with the A melody being well, developed LOL

Does music theory hold any weight in djing

>>72671266
>>72671326
Wow thanks, didnt expect that kind of response (as in anyone else actually liking it)
I've just been experimenting really, and this is probably the best experiment

>>72671266
Duly noted
I guess my main problem is lack of structure, i dont transition the stages very well, and often i switch it up at the good parts. I just write down a load of different ideas and then try and smoosh them together and keep the result

>>72671326
yeah i dont know how chords work very well, need some music theory. really wish i'd paid attention to those piano lessons as a kid

Really I'm trying to run before I can walk - I'm gonna watch a load of tutorials on different types of music production and after mastering them, go back to experimenting

Thanks though, glad you liked (parts of) it, means a lot

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>>72671863
>>72671658
>>72671496
completely agree though

>>72672452
this would be great on a Wii Sports game

change the key if you want it less cheesy
and the synths

>>72672591
You can use the circle of fifths to make transitions sound nice harmonically.

>>72672591
doesnt hurt to learn the basics.

>>72657839
>https://clyp.it/xyebc2mi

make it louder?
idk, sounds dope tho

>>72671977
musical instruments don't really see the kind of depreciation common to most consumer products, so provided you're going to use the thing, the fun or at least instructive frustration had, will always be worth it.

I've been thinking about getting a new strings library for production, but, i don't know which one.

What would you recommend?
I've heard very nice things about Embertone's Solo strings series, but Chris Hein's also sounds pretty good.

Chris Hein can't compare in the marketing department though

What do you think?

Sorry if the question feels out of place, I just thought you guise would know

>>72669636
>https://clyp.it/qpcj53nj
it's definitely at that meme level, maybe make the bass just a little louder for the drop tho

sup lads is this of decent audio quality?

https://clyp.it/kndc24rw

i'm thinking of getting my band to record at home instead of paying a motorcycle worth of money to record in a studio with top quality audio.
and showing this as reference

Can someone give me advice on hardware? I'm just using a laptop at the moment, with digital piano, HD600's and a microphone, but I feel like I need some kind of interface to run it through before it goes to my laptop, but I'm an absolute hardware pleb and have no idea what I'm looking for. I just need something I can hook evrrything up to that then connects to my laptop

You have 10 seconds to convince me not to buy Komplete 11 Ultimate

My trigger finger is itching

>>72674752
use your trigger finger to pirate like a normal person

>>72674752
I bought Komplete 10 just for the effects units and Reaktor, best money I've spent.
Wait until it's on sale if you can, I managed to get mine in a sale and with a crossgrade upgrade from buying Maschine and it was around half price with both discounts, so if you are looking for a controller like Maschine then it might be worth buying that too as Maschine works really well with Komplete

>>72658271
>https://clyp.it/lwlcqepu
this is really good, but the bass is mixed way to loud. how did you find your open hi hats? i can never find anything with a sound like that

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Hows the structure senpai?
https://clyp.it/motfmyod

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lot of work to do. trying out a new genre for the first time. this is the rough core of the beat.

https://clyp.it/meeu4vqj

>>72676046
feltlikeiwaskidnappedinacrakden/10

the hats could use more sound design and are maybe too high in relation to the rest of the beat, and in 1:06 to 1:16 i feel they are a bit off of tempo with the voice, or maybe could use an extra note when it goes to 1/8ths, in that part only doe

>>72674288
yes man, it sounds great to me, how did you record it?

the intro could maybe use a bit of less noise

>>72670866
this is cool, sometimes its a bit too much, but i really liked it, specially got hard with the delay "bounce" at 0:46

if you are going to go that way with your music maybe try mixing time signatures too?

>>72676161
>feltlikeiwaskidnappedinacrakden/10

sweet thats what i was going for, listening to it again that 1:06 is actually painful to hear.

thanks for the feedback.

>>72676510
your welcome man, i also really liked how you made the other drum bodies out of gunshots and shit, keep working on it its gonna end up great

Is there any good repository of piano midi songs suitable for practicing with Synthesia? It'd be nice if they had finger hints, but not necessary.

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https://clyp.it/nmgs0er3?token=173d1c8d970be481e3f30f064e44dcc6

made a sampled trap track with a few friends, feedback on production?

brand new
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHxDhPrVqgc

>>72670866
CLIPPING EVERYWHERE

Don't you guys think it's interesting how many times people say that something sounds like it belongs in a video game here?

>>72678604
lmao not only that but every normie I show my music to says that as well

>>72678604
If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be making stupid video game music

>>72674734
scarlett 2i4 has midi in the back

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>>72674734
.. also monitor speakers are better than headphones if you can afford

>>72673443
Albion V Tundra

>>72671907
>commercialisality is better than quality

Unbelievable that people think this. Do you even like music

>>72650759
what part of the pirating process was the hassle? circumventing the DRM or waiting for 80GB of shit to download?

>>72671977
it sounds great but its kind of overpriced for what it is...

>>72678604
well, most of the music posted in this thread is shit-tier garbage with no production value that will never appeal to society so they reside in this umbrella term "video game music".

>>72671907
Sorry to tell you bro but if you think like this you'll never "make it" in the industry.

>>72678915
too many autistic chiptune glitch core trap tunes

>>72656266
that is the nature of electronic music.

>>72679021
nah if the music for those genres was well produced, the niche fans would still regard it as "real music". The problem here is not obscure genres, it's the quality of production that these fags can't even comprehend

>>72679034
It's not, 90% of professional electronic music has a lot of variation and details that you notice after the 10th listen. The fact that the process of making electronic music can lead to a lazy workflow is another subject altogether.

>>72679049
>mfw im actually tried to get signed

Yeah, but don't you guys realize most of the clyps here are just WIPs in various stages of production? Hell, even I sometimes post something I've been working on for just a few hours.

>>72675753
I used the built in 909 samples in ableton desu. It's more about the mixing than the samples really.

https://clyp.it/3ov2kpao
I just mixed it again, the bass is still pretty loud tho.

I will be posting some of my instrumentals in here for some feedback and thoughts

I'd like more thoughts on the mixes/arrangement more than anything (that's what I'm working on rn), as I often get "you should add x" and that's not really the type of critiquing I'm looking for, but if you feel it's a needed critique, by all means, have at it. Most of my stuff is hip hop instrumentals so if you think it needs a human voice that's probably why.

Note that if things are distorted or clipping that is done intentionally.

So yeah, I'll throw up some links real quick, and I'm gonna probably upload some stuff I'm looking for thoughts on pretty soon here.

>>72679830
Please tell me what are those trumpets? I need just that for my project but at the moment I don't have any.

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>>72679830
NIGGER FUCKING SIDECHAIN YOUR BASS LINE, IT'S CLIPPING EVERYWHERE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>72679849
I sampled everything from this track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS2PQs_IRNk

>>72679843

First one is just a little weird hip hop beat I did, tried to be different, that weird cut in the middle is intentional
https://clyp.it/zoivilyv

older trip hop/lo fi thing I did. Pretty proud of this one
https://clyp.it/bvkyiupm

traditional boombap/jazz rap, pretty standard nothing spectacular but I enjoyed making it
https://clyp.it/ljl5x5i4

my attempt at creating a lo fi "sample" without actually sampling

https://clyp.it/3g5xn132

fun with filters
https://clyp.it/tmoalw4c

>>72679944
Sidechaining is for pussies. Real man embrace the clipping.
Actually it's just barely sidechained, I might increase the threshold in the final mix.

>>72679830
Very french house sounding to me

I like it, is the sort of "primitive" sound intentional?

There's nothing wrong with being primitive btw, it is a nostalgic sound with the 909. If I had one problem with the track it'd be the hi hats, but if you were intentionally calling back to that sound then it sounds good to me.

Fuck, I thought that's some VST. Thanks anyway.

>>72679980
Yeah, I've been pretty much binging on roulé and crydamoure tracks recently and I really wanted to find that raw, repetitious sound.

>>72680005
I've been using VST kicks for a long time now, but I can't seem to deviate from the good ol' 606 and 909 hihats. There's really nothing like those.

>>72677292
Digging the fountain of dreams sample, but you really need to either pick a better kick or sidechain it to the 808. Also the vocals are mixed like shit.

>>72679830
sounds like 90s house with all that nostalgic filtering.

>>72679956
How the fuck are you proud of that? without the drums its a fucking endlessly looped silent hill sound. There is far too much low bass you dumb shit, would you listen to that by choice if you hadn't made it? Fuck what is wrong with your ears

>>72680136
lol chill my man

>>72680092
That's exactly the sound I was going for. Thank you!

>>72678900
>what part of the pirating process was the hassle?
The download and the installation mostly. It was a long ass installation that took a lot of memory so even refreshing 4chan took a while. Had to google a bit to troubleshoot patching issues but that was the quickest part.

>>72676264
great man, thanks
recorded guitars and bass DI'd and processed with amplitube. drums are programmed, ezdrummer.

>>72680136
I enjoyed it as background music. It's nothing remarkable and it does need some work but it's pleasant to listen.

>>72680296
>It does need some work

I'm the anon who posted, what work does it need?

>>72680175
good... now fix your clipping, niggerlover!!!

>>72680296
Its pleasant if you're deaf or a whale or some animal that can't hear low frequencies well.

>>72680308
As the other anon said, there's way too much low bass. It sounds like it was recorded underwater.

>>72680346
Post your music then, oh great musical judge

>>72680354
Intentional. Was going for a murky sound.

>>72680365
>"post your music then" as a comeback for valid critique

the new low of /prod/ ladies and gentlemen

>>72680384
Even if it was intentional, you didn't pull it off. It doesn't sound "murky", just shitty or unfinished.
I dig the murky vibe, it just needs more work.

>>72680384
I'm assuming you have shit-tier headphones or speakers if you think that this is even remotely okay.
Disgusting, loud, clashing bass =/= "murky sound"

>>72679956
sounds good to me anon

>>72679944
why sidechain instead of just limiting?

>>72680354
I don't think he has good speakers

>>72680420
Like how?

>>72680400
That's all well and good, but where's your music? Surely if you can critique, you can take criticism and feedback?

>>72679830
lower the bpm a bit.

its easy for a DJ to speed up a song but slowing it down always sounds like shit.

just helps make the song more versatile.

>>72680445
because the fucking track is overcompressed enough, do you want it to sound like a bouncy castle?

>>72680451
I think it's more an overrating oneself thing. I can tell from my laptop speakers.

Being able to be told your shit is not good enough is an important part of learning.

>>72680451
I don't

I just gave it a listen on my other set of speakers and it's quite different sounding. Maybe my set up lent itself to sounding better, because imo it sounds like exactly what I was going for when I listen to it on my regular speakers.

That's what I'm trying to get into, too. Trying to get a better set up so I can get a more neutral sound from my speakers.

>>72680483
That's a good idea. Since I tailored it around my house sets it's currently at 130 bpm but it is very reasonable that some DJs might wanna play it around 120-125.

>>72680466
I wasn't the one critiquing your music, I just thought "post your music then" is a very shitty comeback.
I posted my track right above your first post, if you want to shit all over it.

>>72680569
I pity you, you could spend a week on that track's low end and still not get it right

>>72680569
>not having at least 5 different sets of speakers and headphones to check your mix with
its like ur not even trying to be good

>tfw enthusiasm always drops a day after beginning a new project because you are starting to get into problems with sound design and mixing

It's just always muddy, why are even the presets muddy? Why do I have to slap a Maximus and Soundgoodizer on the master, and boost highs through the roof with EQ to sound listenable?

>>72680354
Are you talking about the track called 'fluid'?

lol, why isn't it a bright trap or EDM tune???

>>72680643
>not owning one of every speaker, amplifier and headphone ever released and checking your mix on each and every one of them
pleb producers these days.

>>72680483
I feel like speeding songs up sounds cheesey and kinda nasally but slowing them down sounds badass and atmospheric.

>>72680763
Cause people expect to be able to work their ass off on a track and have it come out good, when that's not how creativity works. Fucking music teachers and dubstep hacks try to sell this "USE MY COURSE I WILL MAKE YOU LE DUBSTEP MAN" and I really don't buy that shit.

>>72680782
>not getting into a house of every member of your audience and checking your mix on their speakers
You ain't gonna make it.

>>72680803
depends on the quality of the source media but i can always tell when the song is in the negative pitch range.

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A week ago or something I had a pretty great evening of inspiration. I worked it out and am planning on releasing it pretty soon on my soundcloud.

However something sounds off about it but I can't seem to find it.

Can anyone hear a problem in it?

https://clyp.it/wqc3jp5x

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>>72680839
fug you mang I made it cause I don't troll kids on the internet and take their lunch money to buy hookers and cocaine

>>72680776
wat

>>72680855
nice tune but those vocals are just so random and out of place.

>>72679830
what do you use to get that filter effect?

>>72680855
I wouldn't want to undignify this by trying to criticize an organic creative process.

is this finished?

https://clyp.it/sr0icsr5

tried to copy this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPlnOOmUJ5I

>>72680899
A filter, lol.

Waldorf D-Pole to be exact, tho my favorite filter has to be the u-he Runciter.

>>72680923
add a hint of reverb and/or delay to those shakers

>>72680899
That could really be the case, I never actually use samples, this was my first try.

>>72680904
Can understand where you're coming from, however trying to criticize someone creativally can help those artists into using criticism to change the way they create, in an improvement kind of way.

>>72680923
fuego los trackolones! Muy denaros hombre!

>>72680950
best idea is to chop your vocals so each phrase those kids are saying lines up with the start of a new bar and maybe have the key phrase repeat for a few bars.

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>>72680950
whatever you say

Someone please tell me whether or not I should stop making music. I want to just uninstall and delete everything. I can't make anything I like.

https://clyp.it/fhqvdudc

>>72681064
If you're not having fun what's the fucking point, you could work on a more marketable skill and actually make money legit. Or at least go and do something that makes you happy.

>>72680979
Like honestly now, after relistening to it for a while I think it sounds way better without any vocals

>>72681064
Jo man, this sounds pretty good. Though it needs some mixing. Also if you can't create what you want, learn it.

You're probally at one of the hardest stages of learning, that moment you just don't notice the improvement. It feels tedious, and the inspiration won't come.

Trust me, it will be over soon. And only if you just keep working on it. Maybe listen to some of your older projects just to see how much you've changes.

However if you don't enjoy it at all anymore, just do whatever you wanna do. You're not being forced to do this.

Anyways, it sounds good.

>>72681101
I don't know what else I could do besides making music. I've just been doing this so long and i can't even come anywhere close to making something good.
>>72681126
I feel like I've been stuck in this phase for too long now.

>>72681126
the vocals are indeed a tad bit odd but its always nice to have a bit of vocals. gives the song that extra character.

maybe try and find some vocals that are more musically inclined?

some chanting monks could be dope. check out freesounds dot org.

>>72681126
It doesn't sound good it sounds like absolute wank, not even trying to be mean. I mean like it's entirely terrible. But I really don't like it that much.

>>72681166
Literally anything

>>72681064
if you're making music for money, then stop, yours is not good anough

if you're doing it for a niche community, expect <100 views

if you're doing it for the lulz, then carry on

>>72681174
Not entirely terrible*. But people will do what they do, just wanted to chime in.

>>72681174
I think you're beating yourself a bit hard here.
I think melody wise it is good. You're using good samples. Maybe add some more bass, because it's lackluster. the drums need a bit more mixing.

>>72681219
I'm not the guy who made it I'm telling him what I think of it, no sugarcoating

>>72681214
I just want to make something good. Something that I can be happy with. I think I'm just done, this is a fucking waste of the little time I have left.

>>72681218
As it seems you're not that guy. I'm just gonna forward this to him
>>72681166


>>72681218
I think good was the wrong word, I meant it has the potential of being something better. it's not a lost cause

>>72681242
>the little time I have left
d-do you have cancer anon?
Maybe sneak a mic into the doctor's and get some samples. I bet it'd give your music some intense feels. Bonus points for surgery.

>>72681243
Yeah, he has some skillz, but I just think he'd benefit from taking a break and coming back to music when he's more inspired, if that ever happens. I don't like to see people break their back laboring over a track banging their head on a wall to get something that sounds good, when that's not how enjoyable music is even created in the first place.

>>72681243
I spent 2 and a half hours on it and that's all I have. This is what happens every single time I try.
>>72681271
I'm doing really bad health wise but I don't have cancer as far as I know.

>>72681273
I never meant to say that he should do that. If I'm stuck with a song I just abandon it for a while, maybe after some weeks listen to it back and look if you can keep working on it.

>>72681291
2 and a half hours is nothing for a musical project. :I

Like my first beta version of the track I'm working on right now took 4 hours. and I'm around 7 hours into it right now, finishing it. This is the fastest I'ver ever been.

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Some unfinished Futurepop for you.

https://clyp.it/bbelynyr

>>72681291
Then shit at least go try to have some fun and enjoy your life as best you can

>>72681343
That kick is horrendous. Arp and lead are pretty good though

>>72681343
More like "I just listened to deadmou5 production course and now I am le dubstep man" core

But if making music is truly what you wanna do, then that's that

>>72681335
But it's 2 and a half hours for a single minute. My finished tracks are usually around 8 hours or so. I can't even come up with a good basis for anything so there's no point in finishing tracks like that.
>>72681351
I mean if I could walk for more than 10 minutes I would.

>>72681383
there's fun to be had on the internet, don't die buddy

>>72681372

To who? Dude I don´t even listen to or like dubstep, I´m a dark electro/ebm/industrial/futurepop guy normally. I had to google who you ment. Do you really think I sound like him? That would be awful for me.

>>72681362

Thanks, yeah that kick needs more punch, will be my next step I think.

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>>72681454
yes

>>72681383
I get that, 2,5 hours is normally what I put into a good start and my first hook. The main problem will always lie of what will happen after it.

You want my absolute feedback on your track?

up until 0:38 the start is melodically and structure wise ok, just mix it a bit better,

at 0:38 your hook starts, make it fucking start man, Hard kick, better kicks. A low subbass that is pretty loud. Just anything to beef that part. after your hook you go back to a bit more simplistic, maybe a change in melody.

Build up to your 2nd hook, And make the 2nd hook more crazy, make 2 melodical leads run through eachother and make the bass funky.

Also, just fucking try. Try new stuff.
Make the song get stuck in your head and hum and play around with it in your head searching for the melody you need. I do this most of the time whilst at work and it does wonders.

>>72681572

Hello darkness my old friend

>>72681699
kek'd

Honestly, I'm fascinated by how much I manage to fuck up every preset sound. This shit sounds the worst.

how come 90% of clyps are 404'd?

>>72682670
media server probably went down. hopefully its just routine maintenance.

If you're making edm or trap then you're fucking dickhead and should end it all

>>72682670
anonymous ones only last for a day

>>72682776
sorry we dont all make autistic folk ambient glitch hop glam nigger tech step

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>>72682776
jelly because you lack knowledge and/or talent to make decent music?

how to make this synth sound?

http://55chan.org/mu/src/1494074514731.mp3

is there an easy VST for all those 80s type synths?

this one interests me too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMiYpjE1jVA

>Not making minnesota glamfolk trapcore

>>72652671
MS20 is the Mustang

>>72682820
>>72682811
Do you guys actually think there's anything interesting to be done in those genres?

>>72656266
>https://clyp.it/t5rtf4d2
google 'cantus firmus'

>>72683042
MiniMoog=Les Paul

>>72683011
80s synths are just basic subtractive or FM synths and I guarantee your DAW comes with five.

It sounds like a cheap imitation of a leslie organ, probably two triangles, one an octave up, or three triangles one an octave up and one an octave down depending on if they're playing just one note at a time or if they're actually playing octaves, and put a lowpass filter on it with an envelope that opens it up at the beginning and closes it down so it has a bit of a percussive sound, add a quick delay for that slapbacky echo and a fast phaser or chorus for the leslie approximation.

Then re-encode the MP3 five times.

>>72681291
2 1/2 hours is literally nothing. Even deadmou5 says he spends between a couple of days and 2 weeks per track. I'm far from being a pro but I can easily spend 4 hours plus on something like EQing and mixing and I'd probably spend a weekend in the studio just hashing out the basic ideas for a track.
I guess I'm slow as fuck but still

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>>72675887
plz help

>>72683314

Same here. My norm is about 16-24 hours before I put out a first demo file. After that time I set the song aside for a few days and go write lyrics. Once I got them recording and another mastering takes about 12 more hours.

I spent a few more minutes rearranging this. Is it any better at all. https://clyp.it/fvlxtlrq

>>72683314
I spent two weeks on de-essing the vocals of one track, now I know how to do it

>>72683165
my DAW comes with none as it is Reaper
I have Cubase too though, but its sims sound like cheap midi stuff and i dont want to use on cubase anymore because its heavy on my cpu

>It sounds like a cheap imitation of a leslie organ
so a hammond organ vst would do that sound on the first (.ogg) link?

>probably two triangles, one an octave up, or three triangles one an octave up and one an octave down depending on if...
these triangles are these "ruler" looking things you pull up and down to set the organ's tone?

>>72683404
>https://clyp.it/fvlxtlrq
i like it man, feels like its just starting doe

>>72675887
>https://clyp.it/motfmyod

A little too long for me. Also with this progressive song structure I don´t think somebody will critisize you. Sounds pretty good and I like how many different ideals you build in, but the part in the middle lost my interest. The ending with the guitar is cool.

Overall the mastering doesn´t sound finished, but I guess you know that.

>>72683445
by that i mean i feel like it should keep for at least 3 more mins


>>72683450
>with this progressive song structure I don´t think somebody will critisize you
what do you mean by that?

>the part in the middle lost my interest.
you mean when the bass is left alone and the whole shit rebuilds?

>>72683473

You chose a structure that literally says "I don´t give a fuck" and it shows. With a structure like that you will mostly attract music nerds as it´s not really easy to listen. Those might like it though.

And yeah, there is missing a bridge or two.

>>72683441
You could use a hammond organ synth but chances are what you're hearing is just a normal subtractive synth.

Triangle is a basic waveform available in virtually all synthesizers.

You never linked an OGG.

Look for a basic intro to subtractive synthesis. If your DAW really comes with no synths, I'd get Synth1. It's free, lots of patches are available for it, and it's based on a simple 90s synthesizer that'll cover all of your retro synth sounds.

hey

anyone here is doing nothing and could listen to this entirely and say which parts you found more interesting?

https://clyp.it/gmqizg55

imma cut the best parts to shorten the piece

>>72683529
forgot link, sorry

>>72683514
ok, noted, thanks for the feedback man!

>>72683541
whats up with all this Synth1 masturbation lately

>>72683635
It's free, popular, and isn't a 60GB torrent you'll use for 3 days.

Synth1 is gay, it came out last spring

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>>72683541
ah its not a OGG sorry its the mp3 link i refered to

so they work by generating a tone in a certain waveform and then EQing and lowpassing it?

i'm getting Synth1 thank you

>>72683799
That's the gist of it, yeah.

>>72683817
if you want to talk more i'm here ok

>>72683799
filters, envelopes, and lfos

>>72683391
>>72683411
Good to hear I'm not the only one that sinks stupid amounts of time into getting very minimal results.
I will quite often spend a whole weekend or most evenings during the week fucking about with a single bass sound in my sampler , I have no problem spending all day doing that.

Thinking of getting into euro rack purely for the Atlantis+Metropolis combo. I'm totally blown away by this and I don't even have a beard! What do?

https://youtu.be/uV9-XA5MPwY

>>72684368
Grow a beard.

can you redpill me on how many vaporwave artists manage to sell their cassettes on bandcamp without getting sued by copyright holders?

>>72684537
>Grow a beard.
That would be uncomfortable

>>72685037
Doubt they were making enough money to make suing worth it.

I'm working on this at the moment. The composition is on pause until I find the right sounds. Mixing this is pain in the ass, but I hope I'll figure it out. Feedback appreciated.

https://clyp.it/y2gr0i2t

Now that I'm listening to it, I don't feel it, it is still not even close like it is in my head. And these Omnisphere voices can't stay, but I don't know what kind of sound could work there.

>>72685323
>https://clyp.it/y2gr0i2t
Sounds like you need an actual guitar to do that chuggy thing.

Maybe actually vocals for the vocals?