what makes an objectively good song?
-lyrics aren't distractingly bad
-progression (it goes somewhere)
-the musicians have a high skill level
>>72617413
>lyrics matter
wat
>>72617593
have you ever heard a song with lyrics so bad they distract you from the music? also
>his music has lyrics in it
>>72617593
lyrics doesn't matter til it's not terribly bad and cringeworthy.
>>72617599
You mean all of Pinkerton?
>>72618065
Yeah
>>72617413
>high skill level
nigga this aint a vidya
>>72617608
>>72617593
If you don't listen to the lyrics I completely disregard every opinion on music and art you have.
>>72619551
I'll also add that many of the people who say lyrics don't matter spend excessive time making music on their computer, and are always too timid to add their vocals.
Their insistence that lyrics don't matter is a belief they use to reassure themselves.
Its not
>lyrics don't matter
Its
>lyrics don't matter more than any other instrument
The lyrics, as a component of the vocals, matter just as much as the drums, guitar, bass, piano, you name it. The issue is with music listeners that weight having relateable lyrics over anything else. It over emphasizes a fraction of the artform while ignoring the rest of the art.
>>72618065
if you were to name an album, this would work
if it sounds good it's good
nothing. people listen to fucking whale noises. people listen to kesha.
if you wanna talk about it with any real depth you'd have to investigate an artist, song, album or genre and ask, what is it that makes them successful or good?