ITT: great albums that are overshadowed by better/more famous

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>>72586060
Tweez is the better album though.

>>72586082
I'd say Spiderland was superior, but regardless not nearly enough people talk about Tweez

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Low key best CT, coming through.

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>>72586163
tweez sounds much worse
and the songwriting gets old quickly despite being so short

too bad albini ruined the production trying to make them into a big black clone, it would still be pretty fucking good if it sounded a little different

>>72586261
also my misphonia makes kent the most disgusting track i've ever listened to
ends well though

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How about this? Imo it's their most underrated

>>72586082
Nah, even Albini knows that Spiderland is their masterpiece.

>>72586450
Overrated*

>>72586450
god dammit

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>>72586450
Actually this is

>>72586231
best thing phil has released to date

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Naomi is in top 5 of their best songs desu

>>72586815
I'll give it a listen

>>72586815
This and song against sex are great

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secretly their best album imo

>>72586963
also Gardenhead

>>72586493
agreed, clearly that other guy doesn't come on here often enough

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not as good as Doolittle but still deserves cred

>>72587448
What? Surfer Rosa isn't overshadowed by any means, when people discuss the best Pixies album it's either that one or Doolittle. If you had said Trompe le Monde, that would've made more sense.

>>72587666
I agree, I generally recommend Surfer Rosa before Doolittle, because it's more rudimentary and raw. A more distinguished album overall

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>>72586060
that album is shit m8
>>72586231
good album, i don't think it's overshadowed though
>>72586268
it's ok
>>72586450
it's good, not overshadowed though
>>72586493
haha, no. their second worst
>>72586815
9/10, but ITAOTS is 10/10
>>72587448
their couple album post-Doolittle are better imo

>>72586815
Not *quite* on the level of ITAOTS but I probably listen to it more
It's my favorite summer album by far and it's got so many killer tracks on it

>>72586060
I will always defend this album. Fucking love it so much

>>72588093
I've always liked this more than s/t, even when I first started exploring Violent Femmes.

i actually liked it more than loveless

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>>72588541
i swear to god i put the image in

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>>72586060
its different from pink moon

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might actually be at the level of pet sounds

>>72588723
The only song on it that reaches the level of Pet Sounds is Good Time.

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>>72586963
You've Passed is 10/10 also, amazing

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It's better than The Moon & Antarctica imo

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It's still fairly new, but I know that Benji will always overshadow it.

>>72586060
There's good music on this album, and I love how vague the lyrics are to build suspense. Albini's production messed it up though IMO.

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Fuck Painted Shut that shit's got like 3 good songs

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>>72588560
Man I love the hell out of Loveless but I still have a hard time with this one
All I Need kills though

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Their best EP
Glider is also better than YMMR

>>72588637
best nick drake album

>>72586082
One of the worst contrarian opinions I've heard, and I have a friend who refuses to listen to Pet Sounds because Surfin' USA was a thing

>>72588734
I think you spelled "ding dang" wrong

>>72590623
That's not You Made Me Realize.

>>72590851
Are you retard ?

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People usually point to Emperor Tomato Ketchup or Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements but pic related is easily my favorite Stereolab album.

>>72590887
No. As you can see, I don't have retard opinions, like thinking that Glider is the best My Bloody Valentine EP.

>>72590939
(cont)
Sorry, I meant Tremolo, but hey, they're practically the same shitty fucking record.

>>72590906
Same. In general I prefer later Stereolab to earlier Stereolab. Cobra, Sound-Dust, and Margerine are seriously under-appreciated.

>>72590939
>>72590951
Pleb af

>>72591231
You prefer the two EP's that are 25% already on Loveless?
YMMR is more novel and formative than those afterthought albums.

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>mfw the intro to Kent

Fucking grating as hell every time

>>72588560
fucking amazing album
still you made me realise EP is the greatest music MBV has ever made

>>72591372
THANK YOU

>>72591261
Aside from the title track YMMR is basically Britpop. Glider and Tremolo have a way better shoegazy sound and some interesting experiments, plus Tremolo has generally more satisfying songwriting.
>25% already on Loveless
Why would this matter unless you're a ">muh full albums" pleb? Regardless even if you removed THKW I'd still rather listen to Tremolo over YMMR.

>>72586206
This

>>72591598
The Charm of the Highway Strip is my favorite Magnetic Fields album but I'm not sure if there is a generally most acclaimed album by them. Is it 69 Love Songs?

>>72591453
>Aside from the title track YMMR is basically Britpop
Sure, when I think noisy, fuzzy guitars with songwriting akin to 80s 4AD and The Jesus and Mary Chain, the first thought that comes to my mind is "basically britpop." lol

Loveless accomplished what it needed to do, and while the Tremelo/Glider EPs serve as nice bonuses, they don't stand out--too similar to Loveless.

YMMR is the first time MBV truly starts sounding like MBV, and everything they did afterwards can be traced back that EP. Without it, there is no Loveless.

To be honest though, my favorite MBV track is on neither of those records.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0fybOfazSU

>>72591662
yeh

>>72589883
I think that they sorta tie, honestly, senpai.

>>72591355
This, it's an amazing album, just as good as VDC

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Objectively their best work

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The consensus seems to be Oh, Inverted World is their best but this one is honestly a 9, pushing 10.

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>>72591770
Literally every other album they released in the 80s is better than this
Submitting pic related as a response to OP's question

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>>72591805
Bad Moon Rising and Murray Street are their best.

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>>72591805
>that opinion
Oh yikes...

>>72591838
Sister is literally just an inferior prequel to Daydream Nation

>>72591858
Its nothing like DN. Its a completely different album

>>72591879
this

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>>72591858
Contrarian af, my man.

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I likes this better than his self titled tbqhwyf

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Most people just listen to Solid State Survivor and don't even bother to check out any of YMO's more experimental and/or solo work.

>>72591858
Sister is their most emotional, textural, and lyricaly image laden work. DN is good, but its mostly just a catchy rock album

Shellac and Rapeman are overshadowed by Big Black

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>>72591995
>but its mostly just a catchy rock album
GO TO BED

>>72591998
Eh, rapeman is just proto-big black imo. Once youve heard big black, rapeman just sounds meh

>>72592054
But he formed Rapeman after disbanding Big Black with the people from Scratch Acid (Or was it Jesus Lizard).
Albini didn't even know how to play guitar before he started Big Black.

>>72592034
Its true though. DN was Sonic Youths attempt (and a successful one) to merge their iconic noisy sound with more accessible rock music. Its a great album, but its not nearly as interesting or unique as Sister

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Spirit and Merriweather have overshadowed all their other albums, and they're all great (well, 8/11 ain't bad). But Sung Tongs definitely has the highest quality/unpopularity ratio.

>>72591879
DDN is much more varied but there isn't really anything on Sister that wasn't done better on it, except maybe Beauty Lies in the Eye.

>>72591995
Bad Moon Rising is obviously their most textural album. Most emotional is debatable but I don't really care anyway.
>lyricaly image laden
>mostly just a catchy rock album
Haha what the fuck do either of these even mean?

>>72592125
>Haha what the fuck do either of these even mean?
Theyre pretty self explanatory

>>72592076
>DN was Sonic Youths attempt (and a successful one) to merge their iconic noisy sound with more accessible rock music
No, that was Sister. Daydream Nation was a successful attempt to improve and expand on that by moving away from simple pop and punk structures into a more minimalist improvisatory approach characterised by lengthy studio jams that were later edited down to workable song lengths, as well as a generally higher level of variety and experimentation and better songwriting. It basically made Sister obsolete.

>>72588566
I agree, my black friend.

>>72592196
>No, that was Sister
No, it wasnt

>>72592076
I wouldn't call it "mostly catchy rock music" when a song can end with a three-and-a-half minute instrumental section featuring a guitar blaring without any kind of structure or melody.
https://youtu.be/PVwJMOtfJbU?t=15m8s

Or when another track just splits apart into cacophony.
https://youtu.be/PVwJMOtfJbU?t=8m27s

Or when an entire track is an ambient piano piece played over an answering machine.
https://youtu.be/PVwJMOtfJbU?t=33m43s

Is it catchy? Fuck yes. But it's also way more than that--nearly every song on that record ends in a wildly different place than where it started, yet reaches those points effortlessly. It's discordant, disorienting, exciting, and yet paced in such a way to never become exhausting. Few rock records have ever achieved this (White Light / White Heat, New Day Rising, You're Living All Over Me, to name a few).

I love Sister, by the way. But DN is WAY MORE than just a "mostly catchy rock record." It's fucking exceptional.

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>>72592308
>he thinks im going to read this
Heh

>>72592144
>>72592288
Are you just shitposting at this point or are you legitimately this dumb and incorrigible? Nice digits either way.

>>72592332
>can't read 10 sentences
well, at least you'll never have to acknowledge why you're wrong.

>>72592341
>WAHH YOU DISAGREED WITH MY BLATANTLY WRONG ASSERTIONS! YOU USED COMMON VOCABULARY THAT I DONT UNDERSTAND! HOW CAN YOU BE SO DUMB!?
If you really think Sister was their attempt at appealing to the more casual rock audience then youre the idiot. Also you used the word minimalist to describe DN which makes you a fucking idiot. And how exactly does an improvastional studio jam album (as you described it) make a pop and punk styled (as you described it) album obsolete?

>>72592494
Calling them "blatantly wrong" does not make them wrong. Simply negating my point is not an argument.
>If you really think Sister was their attempt at appealing to the more casual rock audience then youre the idiot.
Why? It was much less experimental than both EVOL and DDN
>Also you used the word minimalist to describe DN which makes you a fucking idiot.
This shows how little you know about SY. Branca was a notable influence throughout their career, as was Krautrock. Several songs on DDN evince this, particularly "The Sprawl".
>And how exactly does an improvastional studio jam album (as you described it) make a pop and punk styled (as you described it) album obsolete?
Because DDN had both.

>>72592687
>They were influeced by an artist that has done minimalist work in the past and thus they are minimalist
Holy fucking shit you are dumb. DN is not a minimalist album.

>>72592787
Nice strawman.

>>72592813
>described DN as minimalist
>get called out on it
>argues "b-but they were influenced by glenn branca!"
>implying this some how makes DN a minimalist album
>fall back on naming random irrelevant argument fallacy as internet pseudo intellectuals always do

>>72592860
More minimalist songwriting approach != minimalist music
You're really grasping at straws here.

>>72587816
80's comedown machine is pretty good, but very inconsistent IMO. I personally love 80's comedown machine, slow animals, chances, and call it fate call it karma

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>>72592916
>More minimalist songwriting approach != minimalist music
holy shit. Only one person here is grasping at straws and it isnt me

>>72592957
I see you've run out of arguments and are resorting to posting reaction images instead. I think we're done here.

>>72592982
You cant even accurately represent the argument you were orginally making. If you think calling DN minimalist and then trying to backtrack and say "no, no, I meant it has a minimalist songwriting approach, not that its minimalist!" is valid, then youre dumber than I thought. That distinction is pure fucking sematics that you just invented. And then you have the audacity to accuse anyone else of grasping at straws. Its time for bed

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>>72592196
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>>72592076

Was it autism?

>>72590916
Sorry but wrong. Not even their best annoyingly overly poppy album

>>72591355
That's not Halica

>>72593055
Please just stop posting. Not just in this thread but in general.

>>72593184
>accuses someone else of not having an argument
>gets an argument
>responds with "stop posting"
Wew lad

>>72593208
>gets told to stop posting
>continues posting

>>72593227
Damn you got me there anon. I guess you were right about everything

>>72591716
Not that anon, but I agree that it's a tie. I prefer Long Drive for personal reasons though. Never ever gets old. Never will. It's been years and years and it's still my favorite.

>>72593105
Possibly. Its primairly two psueds who have no idea what they're talking about pretend like they have any idea what they're talking about.

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alright well now that those two are done I'm gonna post some albums that fulfill OP

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student demonstration time was a good addition to this album and fits in well

yes i said it

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this is better than 98.12 28. more concise and consistently brilliant

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their best

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this > it's album time

>>72593543
I see this album posted a lot more than 98.12.28, I wouldn't say it's overshadowed at all

>>72593126
Maladroit is the least poppy weezer album though. That's why it's so fucking good. They actually bothered to write interesting guitar parts.

>>72590916
This. Obviously Blue and Pinkerton are better but I can't stand it when people will say Green was the only acceptable Weezer album post Pinkerton. Maladroit blows it out of the fucking water.

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>>72586261

i agree, this woudlve been good if it didnt sound so bad.

>>72586815
This is the best example ITT

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For all the shit TI gets on this board, the live versions are easily the best thing in their discography.

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>>72586060
Has some of their best songs on it

Misery is probably their best song overall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeGs9O7C3IM

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>>72593543
I honestly prefer pic related than both Long Seasons and 98.12.28 but I'm probably biased because its their first album I listened to

>>72593105
Yes.

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better versions of some of their best tracks, shit's 10/10

>>72593526
SDT is pretty bad but Life of A Tree is fucking unlistenable.

>>72594643
I didn't know taste could be this terrible. Stop posting anytime.

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Mistake #1, coming out with a self-titled album after long rehab/hiatus.

That being said. I love this album. The reviews were mixed, with strong likes/dislikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tenrQIOMa1o

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A great rainy day album.

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I don't get the hate for Twisterella

>>72593553
it's okay but I think it's pretty boring. Their second weakest after Von for me.
great cover, though

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the best album released as Coil (Time Machines doesn't count) but no one heard it since there were like 99 copies pressed

>>72586231
good pick, 2nd best Microphones release
>>72587489
also underrated
>>72588437
people may like UP more but Closer is regarded as a classic, I don't think it's overlooked
(it is their best tho)
>>72590612
it seems to be a pretty even divide among fans I know; those who got into them when Painted Shut came out prefer it. GD is a way better album and way more dynamic.
>>72589898
April is the better choice

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>>72586206
That's not Blue Bell Knoll.
>>72595757
Going Blank Again IS the best Ride album, tho. and Twisterella is one of the best songs on the album besides Leave Them All Behind and Cool Your Boots.
>>72588560
I thnk Loveless is better. Isn't Anything is still amazing however.

>>72592102
>Sung Tongs
>not Feels

>>72593526
Wrong but it's still their best album.

>>72587448
It goes Come On Pilgrim>Doolittle>Surfer Rosa IMO. The last two I consider the start of Frank Black's solo career.

>>72586060
Sometimes I wonder how much of the sound is from the post production, and how much of it is from just how the guitars were tuned and sounded in the room.

I'm sure Albini would never do it, but if it was possible, it would be nice to get a remaster of this album where the guitars aren't drowning out all the fucking sounds on it.

I really like the first half of this album actually, Ron, Nang Ding and Carol are a great streak of tracks, Charlotte is also sick. But they sound so bad.

>>72586060
Meh, it's a bad Big Black clone. Some good lyrics, but it gets really old really quickly. Doesn't compare to Spiderland, because it sounds like an entirely different band. Still, pretty good for a bunch of teenage kids.

Also, Carol is my fucking jam.

>>72598649
i bet a remaster of this album would be amazing

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People don't really talk about their reunion stuff because the band split in two and Faust I is the greatest album of all time but this is a very good industrial hip hop album

>>72598649
Agree completely. There's an awesome album in there, but Albini fucked it up trying to put his mark on it.

>>72599391
Faust IV > Faust I

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>>72590612
so much better than painted shut, though i don't know if it's actually overshadowed

every bebop album sans this one