/prod/ - music production general anime edition

>LEARNING RESOURCES

(Obligatory mixing course)
>The Art of Mixing by David Gibson
https://youtu.be/TEjOdqZFvhY [Embed] [Embed]

(Obligatory synthesis course + additional related videos)
>Intro to Synthesis by New York School of Synthesis
https://youtu.be/atvtBE6t48M [Embed] [Embed]

YouTube channels that you should subscribe to:

>Point Blank Music School
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIWNozFjO8yVdJFsGKVmPgg

>Pensado's Place
https://www.youtube.com/user/PensadosPlace

>SeamlessR (in-depth music production and sound design tutorials, based on FL Studio)
https://www.youtube.com/user/SeamlessR

>BusyWorksBeats (same as above, a lot of good new content coming)
https://www.youtube.com/user/busyworksbeats

>ADSR Music Production Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf5UKh_cj2_5pUomhyswWYQ

>Justin Omoi
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMnmXvv9JHJPsrrob-gEn5A

>WarBeats
https://www.youtube.com/user/nfxbeats/videos

>Samori Coles (not many videos, but a few good ones on compression and EQ)
https://www.youtube.com/user/homestudiotutor/videos

>Modern Mixing
https://www.youtube.com/user/ModernMixing/videos

>Image Line Tutorials (for FL Studio users)
https://www.youtube.com/user/imageline/playlists

>READ THIS BEFORE ASKING WHERE TO BEGIN

https://clyp.it/0kcuz4pl

What do ya'll think about this?

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Is this the best drum album to sample or hwut?

t. noob shill

is sampling still relevant?

>>72577743
>https://clyp.it/0kcuz4pl
no pay-off but would work great as a soundtrack

>>72578885
No pay off?

>>72578358
sample yerself matey

most fun i ever had is forming chords on different things and playing the chords.

get on that rave tip playa

>>72578358
>is sampling still relevant?
i dunno, have you turned on the radio in the last 10 years?

got 2 clyps for you guys

https://clyp.it/kxbgccp5
posted this one yesterday too but no one gave me feedback

https://clyp.it/jybeo5mv
some beat I'm working on for a friend to rap over

as always I'll return r8/feedback

>>72579800

Sampling is still very relevent

Haito moe vertooal youtoobah kizunah ay desu

>>72580665
>https://clyp.it/jybeo5mv

Might be a tad too busy for a rap song

>>72580712
you're right, I'm going for more of a hybrid style but once I get the vocals I'm gonna turn some shit down for sure this is just an instrumental mix

>>72580746

Yeah it sounds like it. Also, you should probably mix it lower because you're going to have to fit vocals in there. I know it's just an instrumental but it'll save you from having to do extra work in the future.

>>72580769
yeah you're right man, I just HAD to see what it sounds like fully beefed up even without the vocals, I don't mind the extra work when I get the vocals desu

working on this house tune

https://clyp.it/pm20no11

>>72581509
>https://clyp.it/pm20no11

My 2 year old started dancing to your tune.

>>72581543
is that a good sign or a bad sign?

>>72581611
it means you're a babbycore producer now

>>72581509
This is pretty good desu, however I'm not a big fan of the drums, like, you're going for a dark minimal techno vibe but there's 0 variation on the drums, also the kick needs to be a bit more top heavy it's lost in the mix, and that clap is very cheesy.

>>72581638
the style im going for is "g-house" so loud deliberate claps are sort of a staple. i could try to introduce another clap layer.

>>72581611
>is that a good sign or a bad sign?

It's a good sign desu, although the track is too repetitive. Even for house.

>>72581699
how was that drop that happens after 2:30?

>>72581745
I just noticed the hats are basically nonexistent. And the guy above that said you kick is lost is right as well.

>>72578972
I think he means there's no verse-chorus structure. Doesn't really need it though.

>>72581665
it's not the volume or anything, it's the sample itself that I don't really like, but most of all I don't like that kick, it's way too soft and gets buried in the mix. Also you gotta vary your drums up and add more percussion to it it's way too simplistic

>>72581790
repairing shit as we speak

>>72581819
REEEEEE i just noticed this after an hour of mixing to make my bass cooperate... well back to the old drawing board.

>>72581845
the way your bass works reminds me of Jauz, listen to his deadmau5 remix or jaws theme, might wanna add a sub bassline too

>>72581906
its actually 3 basses layered...

sub is down the middle... one bass is panned 10L and the other 10R. ran it through this plugin called "mongoose" by boz digital labs which pretty much lets you pick a frequency and everything below that frequency gets turned into mono.

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Hiya, /mu/, should i keep working on this or is it crap?

https://clyp.it/kts5xu4r

>>72581970
what was your reason for the 3 basses layered, specifically the two that are panned ever so slightly to the sides

it doesn't seem to be really doing much so revisiting your reason for doing it could help you refine your idea

i'm not feeling too much sub either and without looking at it in a spectrograph it's either your kick and sub are fighting each other and cancelling out and / or your bass and sub are fighting each other and cancelling out, possibly from the inharmonic aspects. if there's an oscillator tuned to like +3 semitones in there try +15 just to get it away from the bass or using that second bass synth exclusively for the +3 semitone and highpassing it

>>72582069
only if you can put better drum samples in there. could even sample a whole rock drum loop and chop it up like triphop

>>72582080
i just liked the way each of them sounded. they are both high passed to about 120hz so the main bass still does a lot of the lifting.

i know layering bass is probably unconventional and not recommended but they both have really nice rings.

>>72582069
nice... reminds me of something that would be in a gears of war trailer.

>>72582069
>https://clyp.it/kts5xu4r
I like it so far. Drums don't sit properly yet. They're in that uncanny valley of having an acoustic timbre but programmed to sound way too mechanical. Synth at the end is lame. Definitely keep working on it.

>>72582148
Layering bass is conventional as fuck. You're probably better off making a really good bass that stands alone tho.

>>72582125
its not samples, its a chopped up recording of me playing , did i fuck it up?

>>72582163
should i not chop then then?

not a synth, steal lap guitar, i got like 20mins recorded of it and im chopping up parts to work as lead, thats just an unworked clip standing at the end of the section i was working in

>>72582179
i struggled to make a bass sound that was deep but also good sounding.

any particular plugins you like?

was just easier to use a sine wave for the deep stuff and a secondary bass for character.

>>72582206
>https://clyp.it/kts5xu4r
Nothing wrong with chopping but they just sound wrong to me. It's going for an acoustic kit sound but it's obviously programmed so it just sounds fake an lame.

I meant the sound starting at 1:18~ for the synth sound. Maybe it's just chopped lap steel. The melody just sounds cheesey as fuck to me.

It's almost like you're trying to make post-rock or something. I think the start of the track is definitely the best part so far.

>>72582224
I definitely put sine subs under stuff. I almost consider that a different instrument though.

I mostly use Operator/Analog/Simpler with single cycle waves for bass in Ableton or hardware synths. Serum is cool too.

>>72582206
the recording of you playing has a real bad sound and the retriggering ride that seems to stop before the next one plays is not great. the sound is so dry and muted, a longer sustained noisy sound would probably fit better with the long ambient tones the rest of the song has. a bit more room and less sharp definition maybe.

listen the drums in a song in a similar style, like some old psychedelic rock or postrock. right now it sounds like a basic general midi kit.

>>72582297
in my tune i used sine for the sub
spire for the right bass
lush101 for the left

>>72582276
chopped lap with another track upped a 7th

>Its almost like you're trying to make post-rock or something
i dunno, im just letting it work out by itself

>>72582302
OK, gonna work on that, thanks!

>>72582319
>>72582297
Sine subs are only appropriate on real big systems. Headphones and general speakers won't be moving as much air and will instead need a tone with more harmonics to be heard instead of just almost feeling it.

Typically we'd use a lowpassed square or a few sines tuned to harmonics, or saturate a sine. A quick pitch drop at the start can emphasize when the sub hits as well. Also be sure to EQ so you can control where in the frequency range the harmonics will be more prominent.

Here's a sample from Fanu's old Microbrute Bass pack that's a particularly song sub. http://www108.zippyshare.com/v/ouliLtHr/file.html Try this out. It's much more audible for situations where it's not feasible to move a giant coil in front of someone.

Does my bass sound ok? I'm trying to learn how to do bass, for this one I used some sampled bass notes and filtered them, but I don't know if they match the piano chords or not.

Any advice?

https://clyp.it/yn5d5kkq

>>72582479
>https://clyp.it/yn5d5kkq

Sounds off key and too much gain

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>>72582410
added to my sample collection.

pic related... its what i use to mix right now. nice speakers but they cant do low end for shit so there is some guess work involved.

i got some nice stereo speakers but my 20 year old amp finally bit the dust so i dont really have a secondary sound system for reference.

>>72582505
Any tips on how to get it on-key? I've never played an instrument so I don't have a great ear for these things

>>72582546
Get a tuner and play notes in the same scale as the rest of the tune.

>>72582546

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NFMKY__msI

>>72582479
If you're in FL Studio, open the samples in Edison and switch to spectrum view. Make the window bigger and move your mouse over the fundamental, the pitch will show up in the top-left of the FL Studio window.

If not, something like GTune http://www.gvst.co.uk/gtune.htm and use an EQ to emphasize / isolate the fundamental frequency of the samples to sort of coddle GTune so it picks the right frequency.

>>72582410
Sine subs are verrrryy noticeable thru headphones. I personally don't like the sound of the third harmonic of a complex wave shape when the fundamental is around 50Hz, even if it's heavily filtered. If you put a complex wave an octave up from the sub it sounds alright tho.

Personal taste I suppose.

>>72582702
>Sine subs are verrrryy noticeable thru headphones. I personally don't like the sound of the third harmonic of a complex wave shape when the fundamental is around 50Hz, even if it's heavily filtered. If you put a complex wave an octave up from the sub it sounds alright tho.

I literally have to distort mine, otherwise I hate it

>>72582576
>>72582589
>>72582653
Thanks for the help, I already have the notes of all the bass samples but I don't know how to find the key of the piano sample I'm using.

I'm in Ableton btw. Tried the built-in tuner but it doesn't detect half of the chords. I'll try GTune

>>72582725
The sine by itself sounds boring as fuck sure, that's why you have shit happening an octave up. It's fine if you can't hear it thru laptop speakers or small monitors. It's there for when you have the low end available.

>>72577627
Does anyone like creative sound lab on youtube? I really like them for typical studio like stuff.

does this sound too messy? considering scrapping or redoing the whole thing because I think I went overboard with all the stereo effects
https://clyp.it/wxi2l3j1

>>72582653
Ok, GTune says that the piano chords are G, F and D#. What do I do now?

>>72582878
the highest note in the piano chords goes
A# A# > A A > A# A# > G G
so for the bass maybe try
A# A# > A A > A# A# > D# D#

>>72582878
Your scale is prolly G minor.

G A A# C D D# F

Use those notes.

Made a quick demo of sub bass with cheesy Dectalk voices narrating so you know what works best on your system.

For me the saturated sine on 20 to 50hz range works best while the normal sine on 20 to 50hz works worst and the sine with 3 even harmonics is okay at 50 to 100hz but doesn't carry much weight at 20 to 50hz, so of course I use a saturated sine.

https://clyp.it/umxe224c

>>72582926
>>72582943
Thanks I'll try this now

>>72582814
You can still make your subs audible through harmonics when you're on speakers without a subwoofer, it's incredibly common in professional records to add harmonics to the low end either during production or in mastering because even if the root frequency of a note isn't there, your brain will fill it in if it hears harmonics. This is a basic principle of psychoacoustics and is just about all that "bass enhancers" do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_fundamental

And the best part is you usually won't be in a situation where the sub bass's fundamental is entirely missing, often it's just quiet.

>>72583160
Of course you can. I like the sub to actually be present and shaking my skull though. Your brain will be able to determine what the fundamental is from harmonics but they're not gonna move the same air. The whole point of a sub is to rattle shit.

>>72582926
>>72582943
Ok I tried your pattern of A# A# > A A > A# A# > D# D#, how does it sound?

https://clyp.it/rrw1ul2b

hey is this okay?
https://clyp.it/i44xey4l

>>72583411

wheres your low end

Is it possible to make a track with orchestral samples that doesn't sound like asshole?

>>72584109
yes

>>72584109
The Beatles' Strawberry Fields Forever and David Bowie's Space Oddity use a Mellotron, an orchestra sampler far less complex than whatever you have.

>>72584561
>complex=good

Mellotrons sound rad but not because they have an authentic sound.

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are you guys familiar with the idea of sharing midi messages between applications as you would do with a device? are there emulators for that?
suppose you want to send messages from a midi editor or a virtual keyboard from an application to a DAW without using VST and without importing midi files

>>72585300

Virtual MIDI cables - I use loopMIDI

>>72585444
thank you

Made some boom bap earlier

https://clyp.it/kjrm1gr2

trying to make this more interesting and giveing final touchs before mixing,
some toughts?
what would you do/change?

try not to say sampling/mixing changes, that will be the next step

https://clyp.it/xv2ld4hy

I'm going to create a new genre. When you see the phrase "psychadelic groove" what music do you think of? What do you think it sounds like?

>>72586677
triphop

>>72579800
My anaconda don't

which synth vsts are absolutely necessary
i tried to pirate serum but its a fucking pain in the ass

>>72587481

It's fucking $9 a month

>>72587506
im broke af
im not buying anything till i start making money

>>72587551

How about you get a job and stop mooching off your parents

>>72587506
what, like you rent a piece of software?

i can't believe millennials do this.

>>72587481
serum is nothing special, and none are necessary. if for some reason you can't figure out how to pirate serum, try sylenth or fm8 or use the synths that came with your fuckin daw you dunce.

https://clyp.it/1mv3ngwe

don't know where to go with this

>>72583411

i enjoyed it

>>72588216
Read the op

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>>72588458
whoopsie daisy, thanks anon

which kick should i use?

high kick: https://clyp.it/bsr4uiv1

mid kick: https://clyp.it/ggaatpzu

the high kick offers more clarity and less muddy mix, but loses the g house charm

>>72588599

High one

>>72587628
>what, like you rent a piece of software?
>i can't believe millennials do this.

>rent

It's a payment program for brokefags

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https://clyp.it/wkvfbex4
Here is a song I have been working on for awhile, I feel like sharing it.
It's supposed to be an electronic rock track. I recorded vocals for it but I can't sing.
My main questions are how does the bass sound in the mix (both intro and at 0:55) and where and how should I use reverb.
I haven't used reverb a lot in my productions and I think should start using it.

>>72586110
It's a very groovy track. I like it.

>>72587641
I am getting a strong Persona 5 vibe off of this. If you need inspiration, listen to some songs off the OST. Maybe trying adding some organ or elec. piano chords, or even a riff.

Here's some meta,

We used Clyp.it because Soundcloud and Youtube weren't anonymous and it was considered self-promotion, but a bunch of these Clyps are on registered profiles with other music, and some are real-ass usernames.

Do we lift the restriction since it's functionally pointless now or do we use Vocaroo or some shit?

Bitch if you don't use Vocaroo? You're just a self-promoting attentionwhore. That's 2017.

>>72589809
I use a account just because I can't upload WAVs that are bigger 20MB.
I just took a look at Vocaroo and the file size limit is 50MB. I uploaded a song here that is 72MB.
I use Ableton so I don't have a built in WAV-to-MP3 converter (I could use Audacity to convert but whatever).
I don't know the limitations of Vocaroo, for example, how long until a file disappears, is there any playback issues?
I also liking seeing the waveform of a file before playing.

>>72589886
Vocaroo was just a joke, it's like 22050hz sample rate I think? And I don't know how long it lasts, maybe a week after no listens.

Sucks that Ableton doesn't have built-in MP3 export. Seems like an obvious feature to have.

>>72589809
Vocaroo fucks audio quality, though. That's a big issue. Also seeing the waveform is nice.

But yeah I agree clyp is cancer.

Bunch of real nice drum samples from Morcheeba

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cjdw5puzglwzs36/PAUL%20MORCHEEBA%20HITS.zip?dl=1

They're a bit loose for me but maybe one of you will use them.

>>72590005
Gracias

>>72590005
NOICE
grasia

Can anyone tell me what's the purpose of a tape loop while you can just use a looper device/sampler/DAW to loop recordings? Many musique concrete and noise artists are all over it but I don't get it..

>>72590265
tape distortion

>>72589690

i've never played Persona 5 but you're right, it kinda sounds like something from the OST

>>72590265
Tradition, it's fun to have a physical thing to interact with, belief that it lends credibility to your music, bragging.

I've got a nice cassette deck but I've only put one song on tape unfortunately, it was a bit of a hassle with what I have available, but it sounded nice. Probably also just really liked the concept of it existing some place physical.

Somewhere around me there's a cassette tape labelled duck calls that contains a remix of Clarence Carter's Strokin'.

>>72590383

nice, sounds fun!

>>72590383
It sounds a lot better on said tape deck, but it's put away somewhere and all I've got is this 70s-ass olive drab canvas-covered portable tape recorder from the military or some shit. Mono with the timbre of a Tom & Jerry scream filtered out of your own asshole.

https://clyp.it/uqoenajq

>>72589566
The drums sound weird. Specially the kick.
Bass is all right.

https://clyp.it/zslrf5lc

my main question is did i go too far with the panning? i would also like general advice and information since i'm just getting started producing.

I was just fucking around in FL and this came up.
https://clyp.it/34dw445q

Any thoughts?
I know it's very unpolished.

>>72590922
The panning is dizzying. It feels like being drunk. You should probably cut it down a little.

i've been eating fiber powder supplements out the fuckin can and i'm ready to make whatever you think is impossible happen with synth1

challenge me

>>72591186
Make the talking bass from Scary Monsters Nice Sprites.

You have untill this thread drops dead.

Good Luck

>>72590922
That must sound great in mono

>>72591300
gonna need more fiber for this one

>>72591330
>>72591126
>>72590922
https://clyp.it/mt1zadqf

did i tone it down enough?

>>72591300
https://clyp.it/5vwvznkg

Had to add some off-board distortion and EQ but all the automation is inside Synth1.

Two variations of the patch, one with the FM going down in the middle, one with it going up and then also some Maximus (FL's mutliband compressor) to thicken it.

>>72591894
Actually slightly different modwheel automation.

https://clyp.it/ue0o0wq5

And with that I'm done, Supernatural's done downloading and I gotta watch my shitty TV show.

>>72588791
interesting, who else does this? already have a pirated version of serum though.

>>72592150
>>72591894
wow that's shit

Thoughts on this so far? Been a while since I've made a tune like this.

https://clyp.it/afrij23i

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Some trap/dub stuff my bud makes, I did the album art


https://nineteenninetynever.bandcamp.com/album/go-dawgs

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>>72593555
On the flip side, here's some old stuff of mine

https://clyp.it/zhp5iy2h

>>72593555
>my bud
hahaha nobody goes around image boards shilling for their "bud." Man up and shill for real if you're going to do it at all, faggot.

>>72583472
>>72587998
is it any better now?
https://clyp.it/0srgyweg


>>72591475
you toned it down, but it's still boring and lacking variety

>>72593351
it's nice, feels a little disjointed though

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https://clyp.it/4z5djfdu
Let's just get one thing straight, I am better at sampling than you. Case closed.

>>72593619
no I've known the guy for like 15 years lol fuck off nerd

https://clyp.it/fsu0jquh

Absolutely no mixing experience,

I would say this is about 40% done. If anyone could give me any feedback? Want to get it to a decent point where I can send it off to a producer to pay him to do the rest. Ignore vocals, still experimenting.


Using abelton, all instruments recorded live.

Aw yeah, it's time for that DUMB shit

https://clyp.it/lwi2khpm

Just to clarify, I'm making this as a goof and I just want one person to get a chuckle out of it

>>72593733
By producer do you mean a mix engineer? It's best to send them everything completely dry with no effects. You can do a rough mix yourself as a reference for the direction you want them to go in, though.

>>72593716
>lol fuck off nerd

Wow, you're bad at PR. You should quit before you give your 'friend' a bad reputation.

https://clyp.it/r1pz0coo

Just something I came up with recently. I still consider myself a beginner at this so any critiques or advice would be great.

>>72594634
Yeah someone to mix it. There are no effects on this minus a few references like you said.

>>72595180
Alright, just to be clear, take off literally everything you did to mix it when you send it in. You can find someone to mix it on fiverr.com by the way

>>72595032
I'm into it. It gets pretty abrasive sometimes with your sample layering though, and the bass doesn't have a very strong presence, and the mastering leaves a lot to be desired.

Otherwise though, that's pretty dope, seems like you put the effort in and it's complex enough to keep the listener interested. It doesn't really have any movement to it, though, it sounds good but it doesn't have a direction it's driving towards.

Once again though, I definitely fux with it and it's pretty solid if you consider yourself a beginner. We like weird shit here though, so on the outside you're on your own

>>72595200
Thanks for the link, i'll check it out. We are sending them entire work spaces so they can delete all effects as see fit, not a stereo bounce.

Does that matter? Is it more of an inconvenience for them?

>>725952
Hey man thanks for the advice. It means a lot to me that you took the time to listen to it.

If your still here do you have any tips for mastering? I've found that this is the most difficult part of the process for me and any help would be great.

>>72595643
Meant for >>72595204

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https://youtu.be/1GD6_Oa3Euw
Hip Hop mix

>>72595643
Honestly, just do what I did and watch a ton of youtube tutorials and attempt to read some books on it. There's a lot to it, and I don't think I could explain it well enough in this particular context for it to actually help you with it.

In a nutshell though, be careful about how you're dealing with similar frequencies, stratify your song by various frequency ranges and handle the gain and saturation for each separately, and be very careful with your mix. Also, don't stop when it sounds good. Walk away for a few hours and listen again.

I can do an 8 bar groove, but when I want to move into a different song section, I'm struggling in identifying changes that make sense. How do I weave changes in melodies/chord progressions, or add/subtract instruments without things seeming jarring?

>>72595778
Depends on what you're writing. Listen to similar music and analyze what they do, then emulate it until you understand why the tactic works.

>>72588599
i like the mid kick... did you see my g-house tune?
>>72581509

>>72595974
nah i'm sticking with the high kick, that mid kick sample was kinda distorted. anyways, decent idea, slight mixing flaws here and there. but im guessing this is an unmastered wip so you probably dgaf

>>72596008
actually it was an experimental master
>export song at 24bits and -6db
>apply ozone 6

i liked the vocal stabs in yours.

>>72596038
>ozone

anon....what are you doing?

>>72596051
ozone is fine. it has everything you need.
i prefer to use free plugins but ozone is not bad by any means

>>72596051
it was "experimental" and i wanted to see what all the hype was about ozone.

>Saturation Knob VST
>421MB

w-what

>>72596717
dumb shits put like all of their products in the installer so you end up demoing their paid plugins if you're not careful

it sounds weird anyway, it reminds me of foldback distortion almost

>>72593383
Very nice drums man. Keep it up.

What does mastering even do?

>>72597091
makes your mixed track sound good on most systems, adds some polish

>>72597091
a few things

sometimes bands record several songs in different studios so the mastering process involves giving the entire album a similar sound from track to track.

its also about bringing up the loudness of the entire track by limiting and compressing it.

>>72597139
How would I go about doing this?

What are some things I can do to help sound less midi and less programmed?

>>72597173
orchestral, electronic or something else?

>>72597183
Something else. I'm making pop music.

>>72597172
without any experience you'd just get something like isotope ozone and ease in the compression and saturation until it's nicely pronounced

you'll need critical listening to know how to eq it etc

>>72597209
something quick you can do is disable the snapping to grid if you use the piano roll, worked decently for me

>>72597209
add some swing and fuck with the velocities a little.

>>72597237
this. most importantly you need to give your mix space with the correct eq, volume, etc knob twiddling so that loud part can be loud but there is separation between the sounds.
compression is just one part of the equation. even with perfect compression thresholds etc. if your overall mix is shite it won't matter and your track will sound very demo like and amateurish.

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>when you start hoarding free plugins and you just can't stop

damn son it's like anything that varietyofsound dude touches becomes gold

sad he hasn't made anything in like 2 years and that the last few plugins he worked on were high-functioning demos with tokyo dawn labs but even those were really good, the dynamic eq and feedback compressor and mastering eq

god i want to see what he's working on now i'm getting blue balled over here

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>>72597586
>hundreds of plugins
>just use synth1 and sytrus

If you aren't routing your drums to five channels with different EQs and compressors, are you even human?

>>72595734
Ill make sure to follow your advice. I usually watch tutorials and such in my free time and my mastering has gotten better from where I started, but I still got a long ways to go. Thanks for taking the time to help me. It means a lot.

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lmao the art on this free plugin

>>72598547
Took me a minute to get it.

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So I've been making music for five years now and I think I'm ready to do a proper project. I've released a bunch of stuff on bandcamp and soundcloud and dabbled into every genre that I like to make. I've mostly made hip hop, chillwave, house and also recorded math and indie rock demos. Recently, I've been considering the idea of making an entire album (my bandcamp releases work more as compilations than anything). I'd want it to be a songwriter type album where I'd play guitar and synths and produce everything that's on it. I'd want to sing too if I get good enough at it. I wouldn't limit myself in any genre or in any specific sound. I also really don't want to make a generic "dude maj7 chords and reverb over surf rock beats lmao" indie album.

So I have a few questions, any input is appreciated.

Are there any examples of "multi-genre" albums like this I could learn from? I really really liked 6 feet beneath the moon by King Krule, for example. I'm asking because I'm sure there has to be something more "out-there".

How can I be consistent throughout the entire making of the entire project? If I really put in work in a song it takes a long ass time to really polish it up. I'd imagine it takes even more when they all need to be connected in some way. How to stay motivated and focused?

That's another thing, what makes an album an album? Is it enough for the songs to have the same feeling? I know how to work within a single song and I'm just wondering how do I even start to conceptualize a whole record of 8-9 songs. I do have certain things I'd want to make songs about, for a start.

I'm also aware of the fact that it's important to have the songs mixed/mastered a similiar way so it's consistent.

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>when u accidentally bought the one soundcard that still allows old school stereo mix recording

Usually I had to do this bullshit through a hardware sampler.

Can anyone recommend something that has advanced capabilities for finding a sound you're looking for or something similar to what you have in your head? Is there anything cutting edge like a shazam for samples or something where you can type in really specific qualities to get a certain sound

>>72594823
>people on 4chan not understanding how real life friendships work
lol

>>72596717
lol i honestly just torrented the bundle so i wouldn't have to be bothered with all of their registration shit and so i could just use everything if i have to download everything either way.

it's worth it though, saturation knob is fucking great

How do I create more lush, ambient sounds like for intros and builds etc?

>>72599724
Can you link the torrent?

>>72599819
i dont really remember the specific torrent, but i'm pretty sure it was on audioz

>>72600530
fuck it

i'm bump this

>>72600559
.... what?

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>>72600568

>>72601029
>synth1 guy too retarded to format text in a meme

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>>72601082

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>>72577627
I must have clicked something and now I can't see the notes names on my content.
How to fix it?

It's FL Studio 12 by the way

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>>72601173
Click this?

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>>72601221
I can't do that on FL Studio 12, or at least I can't find it.

Here's a overview of the piano roll options.

>>72601305
Wow I'm never updating. Guy on Reddit says top-right of the window.

I travel and move kinda frequently alone, and want to get a DSI rev2. Should I wait for the desktop version?

sup

anyone has experience with netlabels?

I have this new EP but I don't want to release solo because I don't have the time to promote it myself. I have this friend that is associated with a netlabel but I to be honest have no idea if I should stay with him or find something 'bigger' so to speak.

>>72593647
>no replies
I'm glad we've established my irrefutable skill

>>72593647
>>72601794
(You)

Anyone got a good crack for Ableton Live's current version?

first of all fuck this anime shit and put the old pic back as soon as next thread.

now to the beat, my brothers i want to recreate on my mpc a drum loop sounding like this from scratches https://clyp.it/d4f1aahd and need suggestions from you all. hit me up!

>>72602305
use old metal stuff from your recycling or gardening supplies or some shit for those clanks and possibly also the kick. Everything has various amounts of gated reverb on it possibly a with a pretty small size and low mix value. You'll want to gate the kick, you don't want it to overpower the actual transients of the kick itself. the snare is pretty basic, but is very tight so you'll want to boost freq around 800-1200 hz.

Honestly just put the loop through a spec analyzer or EQ and see what it's doing. Not that hard. There are free DAWs and free VSTs, you just have to learn shit.

>>72602707

thanks for your inputs! how to gate the kick?

>>72577627
Will learning to play the piano make me a better producer?

>>72603062
>72603062
yes it will what kind of retarded question is this

learning music will make you better at music whopdedoo

>>72577627
How can I sequence hi hats to sound tighter/more realistic? I'm not really sure how to describe it, but I want it to sound sort of like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ahU-x-4Gxw

Should I change the velocity or arrange them in a certain way or what? Thanks

>>72603175
velocity control

>>72603062
Learning music theory will.

Just how to read music and hit keys? I don't think so, that' just extra.

What's the best prod software to torrent

>>72605245
wut

>>72605245
everybody here uses fl studio i guess

>>72605510
Thanks

>>72605245
ableton

>>72603175
if you are willing to try sth new (i never tried this) but you can:

1- record yourself tapping on a table or sth, quality doesn't matter
2 - create a sustaining hihatty sound
3 - gate the hihatty to your tapping, adjust parameters
4 - record the gated hihatty sound
5 - chop all the individual hits
6 - work on the volume and fade-in/fade-out parameters of each hit

>>72601759
buy some botnet time and a social media bot, spam yourself into attention

>>72599785
layers, reverb, delay, reversed samples, harmony

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>>72599273
>How can I be consistent throughout the entire making of the entire project? If I really put in work in a song it takes a long ass time to really polish it up. I'd imagine it takes even more when they all need to be connected in some way. How to stay motivated and focused?

Look into stuff like SCRUM and agile development, its from software, but i find it good to organize big shit

>That's another thing, what makes an album an album? Is it enough for the songs to have the same feeling? I know how to work within a single song and I'm just wondering how do I even start to conceptualize a whole record of 8-9 songs. I do have certain things I'd want to make songs about, for a start.

Now im talking out my ass but maybe you should try to make it sonically consistent

>>72586677
psytrance

>>72606436
i like this idea


fuck this capthcha

>>72601305
Quick question about FL12. Can you copy and paste pitch changes in the piano roll yet?

Not sure if this is a good place to ask, but anyone know any programs that help you practice sight reading? Something like Synthesia but with sheet music?

>>72607297
piano booster

how can i make trap/r&b pop with ableton?

https://www.xlr8r.com/news/2017/05/psymun-drops-new-ep-on-ghostly-shares-massive-free-sample-pack/
psymun's free sample pack. he prods w/ spooky black most of the time

Some of my plug ins are starting to catch errors and my VST suddenly changed to read only. Did I catch a virus?

occiu uariu uariu

>>72602305
Hello again MPC anon. Pattern wise there you've got slight quarter note reverse swing dragging the snares back a bit, and slight regular swing pushing the 8th note hats forward. That'll give you the off kilter feel. Hit wise it sounds like most of the drums are sampled from breaks, each probably from a different break. Vinyl crackle layered over the top.

fuck im always too late to these threads.

https://clyp.it/1hjoxuux?token=8a76d23a497c47dce28c66a2fe22a389

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxMBZ8KQRmo

here's a cool thing that was on synthtopia today

>>72602858
>how to gate the kick?
use a gate

>>72608518
no you just have a shitty crack. noobs gtfo

>>72607361
>asking such noobish questions that google and youtube could easily answer
if you have to ask then dont even bother

>synth manufactures make a million analog mono synths
>synth manufactures make a million digital synths pretending to be analog synths

Why can't synth companies make something like a freely morphing wavetable fm synth with a spectral resonator/fixed filter bank?

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what is the best format to submit a demo?

mp3 or private soundcloud link?
mastered or un-mastered?
entire song or should i send them a snippet with the important part?

im going to work my way through the pic related list and try and get a bite.

poor fag here and I was wondering what are some the best free VSTs you guys know of?

>>72612885
>>72612885
fx or synths?

>>72612862
let us r8 ur shit first

>>72612929
see
>>72581509

im going to try and polish it off this weekend and implement all the suggestions i got this weekend and then im going to start submitting come monday.

>>72612927
synths mainly, but I'm fine hearing about any regardless

>>72612960
frohmage
tyrell
synth1
^from personal experience those are good

what i usually do when i am looking for something new is search "top free vst" or simmilar query in google and then i search youtube for demos of the interesting ones.

>>72612948
it's nice. a more aggressive sidechain between the kick the vocals/treble synths would be more appropriate as the kick doesn't seem to be cutting through as much during the heavier sections

>>72612862
>mp3 or private soundcloud link?
HAHAHHHAHHHAhahahhHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAA

this is a joke right

>>72613096
glad you liked it, i usually see most peoples clyps get shot down around here so this is refreshing... im going to sperge out and keep working out the kinks.

>>72613104
seems like a reasonable question. i dont think these label guys like constantly having to download 90MB wav files.

>>72613145
if you send anything other than 48k 24 bit wav you're a fag and industry heads will scoff at you. NEVER use mp3 in a professional scenario, I speak from experience

>>72613190
>48k 24 bit wav
why the fuck would they want that when they are only going to publish at 16 44?

and what would be the best way of even sending that? should i just send them a google drive link?

>>72613190
>>72613229
in addition to that i feel nervous about sending them a CD (or higher) quality demo. some corrupt intern could very well jack it and submit it as their own.

>>72612729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phi8zPZcWtw

>>72613039
thank you

>>72612960
tal dub
tal reverb 2

and get the key for bazille

>>72613258
Don't be, a physical demo is always going to be taken more seriously than a download.

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Im fairly drunk, and its only gonna get worse, does this sound messy? I got a bunch of layers on it but my reflexes are too slow to know if they are clashing


https://clyp.it/lm5as2uy

>>72613499
>https://clyp.it/lm5as2uy
Sounds way better than it did before. I wish the ride was darker and more washed out. Seems way too upfront and dry and bright to my ears.

Ending doesn't really go anywhere. Maybe a big lush C section to bring it home?

>>72613600
didn't finish it yet! i was fixing what you guys brought to my attention and adding some stuff to the A part and starting the B part, i still got loads of guitar stuff so im wanna make it last for a while longer

i unchopped and unwarped the drums to keep the groove and added a channel with a filter and reverb to try fix the ride cause you guys mentioned it needed more tail (it did)

the fuckup is the drums are all recorded in a single track, so the only way i can work with the ride is filtering, adding fx, and mixing it with the full version

>darker
this means lowering around 6.5 right?

>>72613684
6.5 what? kHz? You'll have to use your ears. Just means less brightness/top end.

Sounds like it's gonna be a pain in the ass to fix tho. I still don't really understand how you made the drums. Did you chop a break into a single track? If it's not too much work I'd put all of the rides into their own track so you can process them separately.

>>72613800
i used an electric drumkit and recorded muhself playing over the track, then cutted 4bars that were fully on time, the thing got two outputs(stereo) but i only had one cable, i might get it again to re-record it (with other sounds) if it proves impossible to fix

the shit is basically a group with a channel with the recording, compressed, eqd, and saturated, a channel with a delay on the high freqs that comes and goes, a midi channel with a 909 kick, a channel that gets both the midi kick and the filtered kick and compresses it, a channel for the reversed crash, and a return channel that compresses the whole group

>>72613874
oh yeah, and a channel with filter + reverb to un-dry the ride

>>72613874
I would have recorded MIDI and then just used that to trigger samples in the box (if it was possible).

>>72613912
it is possible if i get a usb cable, might try that, i neglected it due to latency

you really really hate the ride?

>>72613937
It's not the worst thing ever but it's the thing that stands out to me as 'wrong'. If it's a huge pain in the ass to fix your time is probably better spent finishing this and starting the next track.

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>>72614002
i wanna make this thing sound right!!

>>72614089
Honestly I see music as a learning process. The track you're making is cool but it's probably not gonna be your magnum opus. I think you've learned a good lesson about how processing drums like that is a cunt. Maybe you wanna do a lot of stuff with breaks and figuring out how to chop out certain parts to process them separately is an important skill to have though.

>>72613145
>seems like a reasonable question. i dont think these label guys like constantly having to download 90MB wav files.
Send them a cassette tape or cd, or contact them and ask them if they are looking for demos right now and what their preferred format for demos is?

>>72614287
You can assume their preferred format is a streaming website. Imagine how many hundreds of demos they listen to a week. Chances are they'll listen to 30-60 seconds of it. They don't wanna dust off their stereo systems to listen to something that's probably dogshit.

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>>72614287
from what all these "how to submit demo" search results are telling me a private soundcloud link works best.

if they are too snooty for that then fuck them.

atm im just compiling my emails (pic related).

>>72613258
Mate no intern is going to steal your shitty demos and pretend they are theirs.kek

>>72614348
anything could happen. id rather not risk anything by sending out my master copy to a bunch of labels who will inevitably become competition should someone actually want to sign my shit.

i just compiled the first 100 emails/submit links on my list and based on this link i have over 200 more emails to get.

https://www.beatstats.com/labels/list/list-YEAR-genre12-showfull

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>>72614221
yeah, you are 100% right, i know i still got a long to go

but this track started with a guitarist friend (who is not only very, very good, but also has a very unique style, he only likes/plays blues and european folk from the inter-war period (i once did lsd in his presence and he made me trip all over a world-map)) trying his new guitar over a two chord pad in a rainy day

he is really conservative, both in music and life, but i really want to keep playing with him, and im trying to sell ambient to him to start a band, i kind of mid-convinced him with some nice cymbal+syncopated rolls on a metal-tube while he played irish music, and he also seemed to like the atmosphere of delay+reverb in his guitar

and i figured if i manage to turn his guitar ramblings into a nice song i might capture his imagination

>>72614316
Actually they're more likely to listen to a physical demo precisely because they get sent so much crap online. You don't want to be piled into that list, you want to be the guy who put the extra effort, however small, in to present your stuff to them.

>>72614399
Go for it then dude. Seems like it's been an interesting process and putting everything you've got into a track never hurts. If anything I should do it way more often. I run out of ideas for a track after a day and get sick of hearing it.

>>72614316
That's a good point. I just assumed that if you ran a record label you'd probably have a decent monitoring setup with at the very least a CD and DAT player...I'm guessing times have changed

>>72614336
>from what all these "how to submit demo" search results are telling me a private soundcloud link works best
I can imagine the label boss listening to them on his laptop speakers

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>>72614404
if u want a fractaly cover to get more attention points hit me up im currently playing with algo image processing

>>72614369
You'll always have your stems to prove it's yours you melon.

>>72614404
Unless they're a label that is snooty about that kinda shit and only does physical releases I don't think that's true. Know your audience. If the label is more online focused (like the vast majority) then you'd want to present your stuff online.

Do people actually get signed from sending in demos though? I realize it's the neet dream but it seems like you always hear about guys signing their friends and people they have a connection in real life with.

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Hello, friends. Here is a WIP in which I am using the Amen broke and Think bleak.

https://instaud.io/VpT

p.s.: Chopping audio & using the fades view in Live is ugly....

p.p.s.: I got Renoise Redux today and can't wait to try that combined with Bitwig!!!!!!?!?!?

>>72614447
>if u want a fractaly cover to get more attention points hit me up
Not drawing your own covers with crayons

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https://clyp.it/5ccfjmyn

working on some trailer music for someone's videogame, pls into feedback thankyou.

>>72614447
Thumbnail almost looks like a circuitboard. Was the original image that Bjork cover?

>>72614497
don't discard it so fast, if you got an A+ crayon game you might make it

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>>72614504
no, it was this

>>72614486
this is true but i would still rather not release something that is intended to only be for people who actually want to commit. once its out there you cant exactly just take it back.

like a few other anons said, i dont think these people who get tonnes of emails every day really care to constantly download shitloads of large files. if the shoe was on the other foot would you constantly want your email server being flooded with 90 meg files?

>>72614498
Sounds like generic trailer crescendo hype music. Prolly does what you want it to. Seems well produced enough.

>>72614427
>I run out of ideas for a track after a day and get sick of hearing it.

Some anon said here that if you don't take your music seriously nobody will, sounded wise, you can't treat it as a toilet

>>72614538
That's why you can make private soundcloud (and probably bandcamp) links.

>>72614551
I don't sit on the toilet for a full day before I get off of it though.

I have a problem with properly cleaning up my tracks tho (and my toilet desu).

>>72614564
thats the plan.

as a bonus i can actually see how many plays im getting and if i only get a handful after sending out 300 emails and submits then i will know its probably time to change up my strategy.

so far a few labels have explicitly asked for private sc on their contact pages.

if they want anything better or as outlandish as physical media then they are probably going to be difficult people to work with anyways. so fuck them.

>>72614588
>and my toilet desu
aaah you mentioned that and i started smelling mine again

I dunno what the trick is for focusing, but just start by dropping any emotional hangups, normie-life is not worth a crap, if you suspend judgement you might find companionship in this bunch of wired messages

>>72614598
If they directly request it then you may as well. They're just filtering out lazy fucks.

>>72614369
>i just compiled the first 100 emails/submit links on my list and based on this link i have over 200 more emails to get.

Wait a minute...so is this how artist work now? They just grab a list of (200) record labels and mass spam the fuck out of them hoping one will bite!?
Whatever happened to the aspiring artist that looked up to a couple of labels that were releasing excellent music and had a no bullshit ethos?

>>72614316
Chances are they'll listen to 30-60 seconds of it.
I'm not surprised, they probably get mass spammed by people like anon above just copy and pasting every label in sight, with no relevance to what sort of music they are releasing. You could be sending your ill trap beetz to some label that exclusively releases euro trance

>>72614486
>Do people actually get signed from sending in demos though?

Yeah, I know four acts from college now on labels. One is actually quite famous, she was approached, the others sent their stuff to anyone they could. Professionally produced as part of our last term helped but still, that's how a music study & performance course will tell you you to promote yourself.

Going to try and spend the whole day in the studio today and get a few ideas down.

>>72614621
pretty much... if its actually a notable label then i wouldnt mind going out on a limb for that. otherwise being that demanding kind of reminds of of employers that call you for an interview and when you arrive 15 minutes prior to your scheduled time you are forced to wait in the lobby with like 10 other applicants.

they are already treating you like shit because they think that is ok.


>>72614648
im only targeting deephouse labels, here is what i am using to compile my list
>https://www.beatstats.com/labels/list/list-YEAR-genre12-showfull
basically they are labels that are doing well in the deephouse category of beatport.

i have like 10 or so labels that are more focused on my subgenre. for those ones i will probably tailor my emails and follow their submission guidelines if they have any.

>>72614655
>One is actually quite famous
>(((she)))
no surprises there...
>(((life on easy mode)))

>>72614648
>>72614655
>>72614621
forgot who im even replying to but so far it seems like atleast 40% of the labels are in fucking germany.

i dont really have the financial resources to snail mail physical media from north america all the way to germany en masse with no guarantees that they wont just use it as a coaster.

>>72614759
does techno interest you?

>>72614792
not entirely... if one of my wips evolves into techno then so be it but for now im focusing on deep house labels cause thats my sound.

also techno is probably the biggest category on beatport. would probably take me several days to compile that mailing list.

my endgame is to have something up on beatport.

>>72614849
That doesn't mean much.

>>72614896
i dont actively listen to techno or produce it.

>>72614896
furthermore when it rains it pours. the first hurdle is always the biggest pain the in the ass to overcome like getting your first paying dj gig or label signing.

btw if a label likes your shit to they call you or do they just email an offer?

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https://clyp.it/pvxfqr1e

>>72606593
thanks! will check it out. I'm already using google drive to keep notes and whatnot so I don't forget any ideas

hey homies been shitting out like a song a day and I'm really proud of this chorus please shit on it and tell me what's wrong with it because it sounds like the best thing you'll hear tonight.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0s4M43ZSwx8

>>72615159
you should try google keep.

>>72615191
I use that to write down lyrics and shit that i make up outside a lot, but right now I'm mainly using it as a to-do list for college and it's depressing to look at

>>72615171
lol

>>72615171
faggot emo music/10

>>72615303
>>72615379

Thanks pals, I'll go grab a Cymatics starter kit and some great serum presets and I'll be back in 5 with some a e s t h e t i c.

>>72615392
Or you could at least try to make something that isn't a cliche.

>>72615392
to be fair it was a well produced song but i just cant stand emo. my brother used to blast that shit all fucking day when we were teenagers.

>>72615456

I can't help it mate, just comes naturally. I'd love to hear some of your work.

>>72615461

As for the production side, I should post the gdrive link for it, I really liked how we did the sidechaining on this because it makes this effect of accenting the guitar chords on the kicks. Felt right.

>>72615461
It wasn't even that well produced tho. Drums were non existent beyond the snare and rolls for the fills. Guitars were blarey as fuck and filled up a lot of frequency space but lacked any definition. Vocals were 'well done' but also in the worst vocal style I can even think of. There was no hook.

It sounds well produced because it moves a lot of air around and has all the right ingredients to make teen girls scream 10 years ago. Those girls are all grown up and have kids and shit now tho.

His 'best thing you'll hear today' attitude was even more off putting.

>>72615514

Did you want me to shit on something I put my time and effort into? That's just counterproductive. Don't you have pride/confidence in what you do?

>>72615171
Sorry m8. We're only halfway thru the cycle where this shit becomes ironically hip again.

>>72615514

Otherwise I appreciate the comment in regards to the fact the chorus has no discernible hook.

>>72615524
You can be proud without being an obnoxious douchebag.

Would you talk like that if this wasn't anonymous? I doubt it. Arrogance is just a way to generate attention.

>>72615543

I talk that way. I seriously think you've got a self-flagellating thing going on if you can't be proud about the work you've done. You don't grow at all as an artist-- at least in my perspective if you just sit and shit on yourself when you present your work to others. (though, you'll say there's very little art to what I do, which I can contend, yes, I agree. To borrow the words of Kant, most music is purely aesthetic and relays no real meaning)

>>72615563
I don't care about promoting myself and my music.

>>72615576

That's a fair point. Otherwise, yeah, I appreciate the point you made about the chorus lacking a palpable hook. Do you get bored melodically anywhere through it? Felt catchy to me. I'll just give it another shot tomorrow 8-)

https://clyp.it/hwiv1ydl

One of my latest WIP's, anyone want to give me some critics guys? Does it sound ok? I made it on Ableton, any feedback is highly appreciated

>>72615593
Honestly when I listen to it it just sounds like EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>72615611

The mix feels fat through iphone headphones. Was a nice auditory experience through and through. I'm assuming this is some sort of break due to the repeated motifs. The pads playing the 1e+a 2e+a throughout the selection sound like they could be made brighter, since it's a groovy part, I think.

>>72615621

That's a lot of E's. I'll be sure to cut back on those from here on out.

>>72615632
Thanks man, i probably need to cut sum low frequencies and brighten those pads! Nedd to work on that :)

>>72615611
Bass has a weird washed out hollow sound to it. Drums have this weird overly affected sound, kinda digital and blurry sounding but they sound punchy and loud, i guess they don't really have much to compete with in terms of frequency space.

Not really my cup of tea but not bad I guess.

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>>72615657
So what would you improve asap in those things mentioned?

Do you guys ever worry who you're getting feedback off?

I give it out but my music is absolute trash. I straight up just don't like the genres most of you guys make too.

>>72615681

Yeah, but that's what you get with real people. I don't expect everyone to like what I'm doing but when I get generative criticism beyond (That's not to say I don't appreciate the criticism about what they think of the genre I've cornholed myself into-- it's all valid) "you suck", I can take that and make something I can be further proud of.

you could also be of the camp that you shouldn't take advice from anyone for a multitude of reasons. Who cares, you make music to present it to others unless you're some sort of rainman. We're all entertainers and nothing more.

Hey guys what's the cool new meme genre I should be learning how to make before it gets huge?

>>72615822
>>72615822
planthouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuXFIKckMQs

>>72615827

How do they make genre delineations out of this? Why is techno such a pretentious genre family? Like don't get me wrong this is a calming song, I'm not regretting the time spent listening to this but it's just concerning the level of shit that goes into the context setting of the music instead of the actual music itself.

>>72615839
I don't even get allthat man I just like to listen to it.
I said "planthouse" more as a joke. But this is a particular style of house music that's being made lately with bongos, nice fat kicks and e-piano.

>>72615862

Hasn't house had those last two things for the past eternity though?

>>72615870
Yeah it did. I couldn't really explain it in a different way. They all have a sort of "chillness" to them.

>>72615932

I personally have a bit of an asspain with electronic music for the most part considering that it's often a dilettante's field (I'm ready to get skewered for that one) so I always take a deep sigh when I see someone mash two words together for a slight stylistic change in an otherwise tested and understood formula. Just call it what it is. This was a nice track though good find.

>>72615955
Fair enough. As a non-expert though I think electronic music fans will often make up those terms because there's some songs/producers out there that are just THAT influential that they can create entire sub-genres (see animals by martin garrix for example) Like I wouldn't care much for a difference between jungle or drum and bass for example but they are two different genres. It's the fans that want to make that distinction so they can listen to that specific thing that they like.

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wannabe label fag here.

got about 208 deep house label emails and 25 odd submit links.

>>72616025
I have a few "house" tracks that I'd consider sending out to a label. Could I post them and would you recommend where I should send it or?

>>72616078
this is my primary resource
>https://labelsbase.net/?g=Deep+House
just compile a list of all the labels that you fancy and then carpet bomb them.

this is going to be my first time submitting anything to a label so wish me luck.

>>72616025
post the mails

>>72616158
yo thank you, good luck anon!
I'm going to send out a few aswell and try not to be annoying.

>>72616160
my only fear about doing that is that the list will somehow go viral and then everyone will use it.

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>>72577627

>https://clyp.it/duad3vhn

WIP, inspired by Alessandro Cortini's Forse 1. Any opinions on this track? I'm having difficulty mixing it.

Made using a Virus Access.

>>72615611
There is a good idea here. To me the bass has an odd blurry sound to it, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. It sounds calming in this context. Keep it up.

>>72615007
I like the overall noisy vibe and dissonant sounds. Reminds me of Nero's Day In Disneyland. I would consider speeding up the BPM slightly. The bass also sounds lost in the mix.

Otherwise good song here.

>>72616439
>>https://clyp.it/duad3vhn

inb4 thanks for the feedback on my WIP man, i like a lot the dark ambience on your track, expecially from 0:50 onward. I'd lowpass the pad in the intro, it sounds a bit too loud imho

>>72616513
The pad that shows up around 0:40 in the left ear? Or the one in the right ear?

I'll try it out.

>>72616439
is that your ms20?

>>72616533
I meant the one that shows since the beginning of the track! :)

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>>72616570
Yeah, I didn't use it in this song since the Virus was more suitable. I mostly use it for basslines and odd noises.

>>72616592

so sexy man!!

>>72616592
lucky cuck

i wish i had more hobby money

>>72616439
>https://clyp.it/duad3vhn
I feel like Cortini's stuff (that I've heard) is a lot sharper sounding. More like wavefolding, complex analog oscillators and maybe resonant filter banks (buchla+west coast synthesis I guess), spring reverb, shit like that. Very analog and physical sounding. Your stuff sounds more like detuned wavetables and a lowpass filter.

That's a hard thing to do digitally tho and I haven't actually heard the track you mentioned so I might be way off.

I think the structure is pretty spot on but when you're getting really minimalistic like your intro every single sound needs to be crisp and spot on.

>>72616620
I'll try and mess with mixing more, my fear was if I mixed it too bright it may be ear rape. I'll try and find a sweet spot on the instruments. But you're right, that's exactly what I'm trying to recreate.

I find minimalist ambient to be really interesting.

>>72616603
>>72616605
Thanks, I found this MS20 barely used for $300 and the Virus access is being borrowed by a friend of mine. I use it on everything, I love it.

>>72616646
You kinda need to get ear rapey for that kinda shit. A lot of his stuff can be really stripped back. I don't think it's a mixing problem really. Those kinda sounds are pretty hard to recreate unless you have the equipment. There isn't really anything that sounds like a Buchla unless you have thousands of bucks to spend. He'll just kinda go 'here's a single oscillator or a pair slightly detuned' appreciate that for what it is. Gear whore shit. The more you try to effect it the further away you get almost.

Just do the best with what you have I guess and find the sweet spots in the stuff in front of you.

I like what you're doing. I bought a shit ton of hardware and I can't get anything done with it beyond noodling.

>>72616680
I would love to have the gear he has. Right now I'm trying to find a few more synths to allow me to notate the notes in my DAW then send the midi to the synthesizers all at once. How I work now is I have to ditch templates I make and make a new sound and just try and remember how I made a sound if I want to go back. It's frustruating sometimes.

I'm gonna take your advice on making it sharper and just add subtle amounts of distortion to them.

What hardware do you own?

>>72616779
A few volcas. Minibrute. Minilogue. Mother 32. Some guitar pedals and cheap samplers. About 104hp of eurorack.

Actually inspired to hook some shit up. It can be 10 minutes getting organized before i start patching. Counter productive. Learn to be happy with little.

>>72616842
Niceee, hows the Mother 32? Was considering getting it between the MS20 and that, ended going with the MS20. Would love to have three connected to each other but that would be a shit ton of money.

The only downside of it is that it can only play one voice at a time. Right?

>>72616654
>$300
lucky cuck

i wish i had that kind of hobby money

>>72616861
Single oscillator. Limited as fuck modulation. I wouldn't get one unless you plan on getting lots more stuff with holes in it to plug cables into. It's easily the best sounding thing I own though and it taught me how to get a lot out of a little and embrace every feature of a machine.

If you're really into that Buchla/Cortini sound you should look into the Make Noise 0-Coast.

>>72616887
Exactly, it's annoying to try and make the most out of synths like that. It's only worthwhile if you have a lot of other things to go along with it.

I'll for sure check that out, I'm pretty new to ambient.

You should link some of your stuff, I'm curious what you can make with your setup.

>>72616916
Most of my 'recordings' are software really. I get too caught up noodling endlessly when I play with hardware.