/jazz/ general

>inb4 /classical/ autists
>inb4 /mu/ shitposts
>inb4 thread 404s because it's not about flavor of the month trash or some fucking meme

I don't think I've ever listened to a jazz album released after 2010. The new Kamasi song is shit, sounds like a boring version of Pharaoh Sanders.

Same with classical music, really. I just can't stomach the never stuff.

Just my opinion. :^)

>>72577278
newer*

>>72577278
Yeah, I sometimes think that the golden era of jazz is gone too, but there are still some nice albums like for example Idris Ackamoor The Pyramids - We Be All Africans from last year, or many yass albums.

Frogwings
You have to listen. Jams are beyond amazing

https://youtu.be/FDiNghJKfHY

>>72577278
Colin Stetson still puts out good stuff

>>72577242
The folks from /classical/ weren't that bad towards the end of the thread. There was also some interesting discussion on jazz towards the end of their own general too.
I think both generals got raided by some third party.

what the point of this general if everyone constantly poats jazz in other threads

>>72573818

you either have a general and keep all discussion there or you dont

>>72577795
It's a shame that the only two good kinds of music (classical and jazz) are relegated to containment threads because we can't have them taking up space that could be used for the five millionth shitpost about dadrock or death grips

I will never understand why you all hide away in a general and let poptimists, memerap idiots and fantano drones take over the board.

Spam jazz, spam classical, spam good electronic music, push the retards out the board, don't hide away with your tails between your legs.

>>72577313
>>72577470
Thanks. Will check it out.

>>72577313
The golden age of jazz was the 20s and 30s (40s and 50s being the silver age). Sorry to say, but it's loooong gone.

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Are you all purists or do you like a bit of modern bleep fusion?

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Been getting back into him lately since the you-know-what. Here's my favorite album of his and my favorite rendition of his band. Really helped me through some low times.

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>>72578050
Most posts are made by a handful of users. When there is little discussion, generals help with getting more of it. People can more easily bounce ideas off one another when they all gather in one place. The only reason why classical discussion survived even in times when practically no one was talking about jazz on /mu/ is because they've been autistic enough to keep their general alive and stick to it.

>What are you listening to right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uunKxbTJomk
>What are your favourite labels?
Don't have any.
>What are your favourite jazz releases from this year?
I haven't tried any yet. I'm a jaded piece of shit.

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>>72578162
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>>72575770

>>72578269
I get that, same for /bleep/ although thats an autistic wasteland of shitposting and little music now

>What are you listening to right now?
pic related
>What are your favourite labels?
First Word Records, 2000Black
>What are your favourite jazz releases from this year?
Only heard the latest Kaidi Tatham EP - Changing Times

>>72577795
lol you make it sound like someone came into your thread and randomly started posting about jazz

somebody just started a new thread to address one very specific question about jazz, probably because there was no general thread up at the time

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David Binney's new album is really good

>>72577225
Saw Chris Potter Quartet recently. Everyone is incredibly talented and it's great to see them show it. Several solos were absolutely spectacular, fantastic from beginning to end.

However, other solos weren't as effective unfortunately and they would drag on. In these less effective solos there were still moments of brilliance in it, which makes it endurable. I also felt that the drummer was in a weird position. He is something between Rashied Ali and Elvin Jones, very interesting, but that role occasionally doesn't exactly fit in with the rest of the group. Incredibly talented though! Also, sometimes Potter would blow too harshly and shrilly in places where he is supposed or where it's needed to play tenderly, making you question his style, something which bothers me sometimes about him in general. But then at another moment he completely does the job and surprises you and blows you away.

Apart from other songs I'm glad they played stuff off the new album: Heart in Hand, The Dreamer is the Dream, Sonic Anomaly. Ilimba was definitely a highlight, Potter was spectacular there and had the crowd riled up! Recommended!

Also, I would never have thought that Andrew Hill on Soprano would remind me of Coltrane a little bit (check out Mahogany). Really in love with his music atm.

>>72578363
>very interesting, but that role occasionally doesn't exactly fit in with the rest of the group. Incredibly talented though!
sound like a Trump tweet

>>72578363
Forgot to add: Joe Martin, the bass player, was fantastic!

>>72578380
lolwut

>>72578392
It's because you put an exclamation point at the end.

>>72578406
>>72578380
Thanks for sharing:(

>>72578406
I'm not the one who made that post tho.
I still don't get it but it don't matter anyway.

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About to listen for the first time while sitting on a $6 coach bus headed towards the trains to NYC. Feels good man. :'^)

Also, is anyone a fan of Christian Scott? I'd love to find more like his self-titled and Yesterday You Said Tomorrow. His last album was cool too, but I figure Robert Glasper has me covered there. :3

When I started listening to jazz in the early 70, the notion that "the golden age of jazz is long past" was generally thought of as reactionary nonsense.

The music moves forward. There has been plenty of deep, great, powerful, life-affirming jazz since then -- think of Dave Holland's "Not For Nothing," Chris Potter's "Gratitude," Chick Corea's "Change," Glasper's "Experiment" and so many more.

There have also been endless stacks of non-at-good. To coin a phrase, "So what?" People try. That's the human condition.

>>72578783
>When I started listening to jazz in the early 70
Wtf are you doing on 4chan grandpa

>>72578783
Quality post. I donate an internet to you. :^)

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>>72578797

>>72578797
>music and the internet is only for young people

Explain Scaruffi then

to this https://youtu.be/K9zmiF810rw

any sad or melancholic jazz albums?

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>>72578927
Melancholy is the perfect word to describe Kenny Wheeler's music

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>mfw there is more talk about current jazz in this thread than the classic stuff

when did /mu/ start caring about current jazz?

is dark jazz real jazz?

>>72579816
The OP questions kinda forced that.

>>72577278
Hey, I liked Kamasi's new song, and I'm a fan of Pharoah. Sure, he's not as complex, but the fact that he's taking a lot of inspiration directly from Pharoah gets me excited. We need more Pharoah clones imo.

>>72579816
This thread makes me happy. c:

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>>72579946
Is a shitposter a real person?

>>72578363
Chris Potter is great to see live. You don't realize just how much control he has on the sax until you're in the same room hearing him play.

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Recommending this for 2017 releases. Best Attias recording I've heard.

>>72580374
This better be good

>>72579744
thanks mate, I'll try it.

>>72580394
you got one of the best ones on there

yo anyone kno that Miles remix album Bill Laswell did? it's called Panthalassa. Highly recommend it.

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David Kikoski is a motherfucker

has there been any information about the next Herbie Hancock album this year?

I haven't heard anything about it since last year and his going on tour next month already, so I guess the album isn't coming out this year yet

>>72581667
Do you maybe have these for other decades? Seems cool

>>72581667
this is a very good list - I've bought ARC and Open, To Love on vinyl in the last month

>>72581667
More in the same vein?

>>72582203
unfortunately I've got only this one, but maybe someone will post others

>>72580374
Holy shit I actually like Now is the Time

>>72578162
desu most recent jazz has been shit even with bleeps added in, so i just stick with funk. hip hop influences arent always a bad thing, and i think that new thundercat album shows that

is this /pseud/ general?

>>72583822
dead general more like it

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>>72583845
here's Jerry Garcia with Ornette Coleman then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwQvcMQsOfU

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last bump for today

>>72584273
anything good from this year?

>>72584296
I hasn't really been listening to a lot of jazz albums from this year, but
John Abercrombie Quartet - Up and Coming
Tigran Hamasyan - An Ancient Observer
Craig Taborn - Daylight Ghosts
Tomasz Stańko New York Quartet - December Avenue
weren't bad, although they weren't really anything special, but you may like them more than I.

Saagara - 2 and The Necks - Unfold were quiet nice.

Also, I'm not the creator of those charts, I'm just reposting them.

>>72578783
The robert glasper experiment is total garbage. They cant even dress well. I dont know life affirming is good and all but soul less infantilism in shitty attitudes is just what let jazz turn old and withered.

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>>72577225
>What are you listening to right now?
Pic related
>What are your favourite labels?
Blue Note
ECM
Riverside
Impulse
Atlantic
Pi
Columbia
Prestige
Act
>What are your favourite jazz releases from this year?
Chris Potter - TDITD
Collin Vallon - Danse
Craig Taborn - Daylight Ghosts
Jan Lundgren - Potsdamer Platz
Matthew Shipp - Piano Song

>>72580374
rollin'

>>72580374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vio-TjMi5_s&ab_channel=preservationhall01

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>>72582203
>>72583322
As far as I know, there aren't ones for the 90s or 2000s unfortunately. Least I've never seen em'.

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>>72580374
rollan

>>72580394
>>72583497
>>72585375
>>72586201
Come on guys, where are all the sick puns gone? Y'all were on a roll yesterday
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/72548245/#q72563234

>>72586384
Rapidly repeat the word hex a couple of times

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>>72580374
huh

>>72580374
reroll already heard

Who has that new Craig Taborn?

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i want to listen too less weabo music, but somehow always get pulled back to touhou doujin music
what genre are those songs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34qMwgeczyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_AfpcFl14

>>72588690
if you know this, check this >>72581385

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so, I have this pic and all the decades that come after it

but I don't want to listen to 200+ jazz albums (yet) to get more into jazz. what are some absolute jazz essentials, regardless of type?

>>72589101
shit

>>72589260
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
A Love Supreme
Bitches Brew
Brilliant Corners
Unit Structures

>>72590258
never heard of that before
do you have any recommendations for that genre?

>>72590806
nah, i don't really listen to that kind of music

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>>72585230
fuck yeah man. very good shit. why no AUM fidelity under favorite labels if you like Matt Shipp stuff though? or ESP Disk?

>>72584130
keeeeeek

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>Bill Evans Gil Evans Orris Evans

>>72577278
I like the new angles 9 album released this year. Also High Definition Quartet have put out two solid releases.

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>>72593845
there's also the saxophonist Bill Evans who played on this (underrated) Miles album

on the topic of labels, anyone else noticed that now that last December Hathut was acquired by Outhere Music, it's actually starting to realize with higher visibility for Hathut/Hatology releases?

I've been noticing more albums available on Spotify and today a local distributor that has before mostly just represented ECM for jazz is now also promoting and distributing Hatology -series releases

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Alexi Tuomarila Trio's Kingdom out today on Edition Records - for fans of contemporary melodic piano trio music

Some might know Tuomarila and drummer Olavi Louhivuori from Tomasz Stanko's European quartet that played on the Dark Eyes -album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OFSgitZVG0
https://open.spotify.com/album/5VaADJQBAj3lVWH03ZKteT

>>72581707
man I love this album.. that piano

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>Terrible drumming, bad compositions, bad soloing except for the vibes player

Why did this get so popular?

>>72597008
>Scandinavian experimental big band associateso the band with the already popular Fire!
>catchy vamps maintain an easy to follow harmony
>familiarity through rock/fusion influence
>extended techniques and general focus on timbre/dynamics
>modern jazz, free jazz, non-Western Street cred

>Terrible drumming
>bad compositions
>bad soloing
All things that appeal to rock fans. I don't see why you're surprised. Remember anything with good compositions and good musicianship is "soulless technical wank"

>>72597142
Meant to quote
>>72597008

>>72597008
>>72597076
>>72597142
I thought /classical/ is supposed to be the elitist general...

>>72597256
>implying elitism is bad

>>72597256
>Music criticism = elitism
I thought underage posters stuck mostly to hip hop threads

>>72597256
Plz feel free to discuss other reasons the album is good. Or you could just bitch and name call like a pleb. At least that keeps the thread bumped.

>>72597689
>other reasons the album is good
Wait has anybody even mentioned one reason they like the album?

>>72597790
i like the way it sounds

>>72597008
It's not popular though?

Only seen it discussed here on /mu/ - that literally is the sign of one person here liking it.

>>72598108
It has 648 ratings on RYM which is probably at least 3 times as many as any other jazz release from this year.

>>72597008
Funnily enough, in the year+ that I've done my radio show I've never had anybody call up asking what I was playing, but last week I was playing a track from this and someone called and asked what it was

I guess it's just like super accessible free jazz?

>>72597790
I actually have in previous threads. I think it's vastly overrated, but entertaining. I'm >>72597076
I didn't mean this to be a criticism of the album. It's cool if those things don't appeal to you, but I like a bit of primitivism in my musical diet. It's like fibre.
I agree that the rhythm section is rigid as funk and the lack of interplay is a big problem, but I think simple compositioname aren't inherently a bad thing and that the vibes player isn't the only good soloist.
The sax is pretty good, in the same way I like someone like Mats is. They're kind of untrained and not all that concerned with the melodic contours of their music, which gives them less expressivity to work with, but opens up a lot of space for focusing on pacing, timbre and dynamics. A great player can do that without abandoning harmonic and melodic considerations, but a pretty good player can still pull off some passionate playing with that limited toolkit. There's, if not a lot of skill, a lot of conviction in the very dirty and wild sax playing, enough to warrant hearing, albeit not enough to make it aoty material.

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Anyone got any recent jazz purchases? Got these two recently, haven't had a chance to hear em yet, but I'm excited.

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>>72580374
roll

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good morning /jazz/