What separates good lyrics from bad/cringey/cliche lyrics?

sometimes a chorus

It's all out of context for me. Ween are good lyricists because they pay attention to the mannerisms of the music they parody, but the lyrics themselves are usually dumb.

Bob Dylan or Phil Ochs are good lyricists because they just exceed at prose and sentimentality. Get it?

>>72508347
wether or not you like them

>>72508347
Not being generic, mildly open ended and simultaneously not being too unrelatable

>>72508347
i mean it depends on context a lot
a good vocalist can make otherwise kinda cliche lyrics powerful, future islands is a good example
and good lyrics on their own are often stunted if they don't have decent backing to highlight them
but in general, honesty and uniqueness of perspective.

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Compare "Through the lights, cameras and action, glamour, glitters, and gold" to "Did the man who invented college go to college"
There you'll find your answer

Honestly, I think it just depends on how overused a certain "kind" of lyric is used in mainstream media. You get pretty tired of "fire/desire" and "down on my knees/begging you please" after you hear that shit a million times over the top 40 pop radio playing at the supermarket.

Anything sincere is lame now. That's why if you come in with some " rain drop, drop smokin on a cookie in da hotbox, fuckin on yo bitch she a thot thot thot" gets a #1 hit

charisma

vocal delivery

If you look at rap these days it's just bitch money weed. If you look at older rap, there's clever wordplay, metaphors, etc. Even if you look at non rap, they need more metaphors and shit

>>72508347
Trying to sound deep,
cliche.
Ed Sheeran's "Shape of you" is like they tried to make the most generic pop song ever, it sounds like a parody.