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find a flaw

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jazz fusion > prog rock

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>>72505902
>longest song is only 7 minutes and 40 seconds long

>>72505946
why not both?

>>72505948
seriously though never heard this. listening right now

>>72505902
I really hate that bit where the bint says 'I'm not your larder I'm your big fat doo dolly" or some such shite.

>>72505971
cuz one is clearly better lol

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Are you ready for our boy Steven to drop the AOTY again?

>>72506013
well fuck you buddy
if your genre is so great, you can give me one album and i'll listen and report back

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Whenever I see prog rock threads, I never see anybody mentioning Supertramp. Why is that?

>>72505946
Go to sleep, Rick

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Will anyone here admit that this is a really fucking great album?

In my opinion ITCOTCK is mid-tier prog. It's not bad by any means, but I don't get why it's prog's icon.

Someone explain.

>>72506026
4 1/2 was dogshit, pal. His collabs has been corny as fuck lately, I hope his new album is going to be decent at least. HCE is a 10/10 tho

okay i'm looking for albums that aren't rock but are still proggy. anyone got any recs?

>>72506103
Well, it was a collection of throwavays
Happiness III is a nice song though

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>>72506026
>implying this won't be prog AOTY

>>72506206
their new single is bad senpai

>>72505997
but that sort of absurdist humour waspart of their relationship - it makes it more honest and human to reveal that part of them

>>72506087
its the first prog album (moodyblues arent prog stop memeing them)
you have to give them credit for that. Also some incredibly well written prog songs - showcases maximallist and minimalist songs flawlessly - is technically, artistically and texturally interesting from start to finish
set standard for how to structure a prog album too - with a symmetrical order of intensity from start to finish

>>72506227
I have listened to it like 30 times already, it's great

>>72506081
You disappoint me /mu/, Tubular Bells is brilliant.

>>72505877
>pseudo-deep lyrics
It's time to get redpilled, senpai.
http://www.songsouponsea.com/Promenade/ChapterOneA.html

>>72506081
The exorcist part is amazing
Rest is very good

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who else wants to eat this album?

1. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
2. Discipline
3. In the Court of the Crimson King
4. Red
5. The Great Deceiver

>>72506026
>>72506206
So terrible and mediocre they might as well be classified as prog metal.

>>72507378
>muh old prog is only good prog
kys dad

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>>72507378
>not liking some prog metal

Can someone recommend me some prog rock albums or bands who have a lot of open instruments? Looking to sample some stuff

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You cannot fully appreciate prog unless you:
a) are watching a performance of the musicians playing
or
b) play an instrument well enough to be capable of visualizing the artists playing

Can someone explain why /mu/ likes Steven Willson? I find all of his songs kinda lifeless and they feel like a music major presentation of what prog is, just sort of a watered down amalgamation of the many ideas already presented and explored. In all my years here I've yet to understand why he gets any respect.

>>72507216
An absolute classic. Too bad it's not very well known.

>>72509667
He's spoken about that in interviews. People can relate to the atmosphere of his songs and it gives his audience a feeling of empowerment and not being alone. Besides that, he's played with many great musicians and every song is so uniquely his.

>>72509667
>/mu/ likes Steven Willson
what planet are you on, half of /mu/ hates him because they are Fantano drones like you

>>72505877
Oh God, this threads are so terrible.

Accept it, prog died in the '79, and it won't be back until prog musicians start to have a bohemian life and do natural drugs, and acid.

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>>72510860
>prog died in the '79

>>72510860
>prog died in the '79
No, symphonic prog died in '74. Then crossover prog became a thing, which was far superior to the crusty bloated buttprog that Rush and Yes were shitting out in a desperate attempt to emulate the symphonic greats.

>>72509807
It's not unknown by "prog fandom" standards, at least.
>>72510860
You were saying? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAlLQaDXc4I

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>>72510860
These threads are terrible because /mu/ is full of clueless retards who know nothing beyond basic essentials and they don't know there are still many great prog artists making music

>>72511017
>Rush
>buttprog
God this board is a fucking joke
Stick to circlejerking hp-hop you nu-male faggots

>>72510988
Oh, you don't think it died off in 1979?. Well maybe you are right, King Crimson's split up in 1975, Peter Gabriel left Genesis rotting in 1975- to me, the release of A Trick of the Tail was the epitaph for prog's tombstone.
I agree with you, prog was over way before the 79's.

>>72510860
>>72511046
You are one like those idiots who think modern jazz is dead
Try to actually explore new bands and not just getting spoonfed the essentials

>>72511017
>No, symphonic prog died in '74

Oh god you just don't know what you are talking about, don't you?.

>>72511022
>implying someone will ever recapture the unique essence and the true meaning prog had
in the '70s

It's over mate, just accept it.

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>progressive music is dead

>/mu/ hates Steven Wilson for being derivative while circlejerking bland neo psych bands like Tame Impala and King gizzard
lol

>>72511040
>>72511046
>>72511107
t. retards

>>72511103
see >>72511107

I can't deny there are plenty of bands who at least <<try>> to make prog music, what I'm saying is prog was a huge movement which had life on it's own and which was more than just music.
I'm sorry, this new boys will never be as great as their musical grandparents, and my heart aches because of it.

>>72511158
t. nu-male

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recc me something

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>>72506063
Idk certain albums are just mentioned more than others.
>pic related
Crime of the Century and Breakfast in America are good albums too

>>72511338
I mean them as a band. At least where I live Supertramp is essential dadrock. My father and the fathers of my friends have all heard Superramp. It's my father's favourite band, and I also like them

By the way, Hogdson having left was not necessarily a bad thing. Better days have come....

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Did someone say Prog Rock?
https://youtu.be/xmq4Ny4E_Bk
https://youtu.be/6PzkPXvmXiw
https://youtu.be/CIwpu6SB4Oo
https://youtu.be/vQZGugWUrD8

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No one is talking about the greatest prog rock band of all time?

Are there any modern prog bands out there with good lyrics that don't involve atheism and freethought? I'm rather fond of DtES' Heretics but I haven't really enjoyed a prog record since that

>>72506081
yes

>>72511022
Saw him in London a couple weeks ago. VIP and everything. 6th time seeing a band he's in but first time doing VIP. It was a magical experience, highly recommended. Going to all his UK shows next tour.
Who Flying Colors III hype

>>72512352
Magic Pie
Big Big Train
Transatlantic
The Flower Kings
Neal Morse

>>72507216
i can jerk off to this album daily its so fucking good. it's the perfect whimsical English album I've ever heard. Nine Feet Underground is a masterpiece.

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>>72511491
>By the way, Hogdson having left was not necessarily a bad thing. Better days have come....
Disagree, but I agree. Brother Where You Bound was the last great Supertramp record, and was very well done without Rodger, but after the band kinda went down hill.

>>72511021
What's with Talk Talk and animals/nature?

>>72505946
I'm sad that Chick Corea is a Scientologist.

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>>72506063
Thats a good ass question anon. Theyre underrated.
I love Crime of the century, but have been listening to pic related like fucking crazy recently

>>72506081
yes. Its a really fucking great album.

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Some good ass symphonic prog here. Eldorado by ELO is another good symph-prog album

>>72511174
Only nu-males like Rush and other such buttprog, nu-male.

>>72508822
That's not true at all. Prog and Post Rock are my favorite genres and I can't even play Hot Cross Buns on the recorder.

>>72514164
Says the nu-male hipster

>>72511158
>>72511174
>>72514164
>>72514373
>Stupid nu-male
>no u
>no, U
great thread, guys

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>>72506081
step aside pleb

>>72506026
HCE was great, much better than Raven, hopefully he doesn't fuck up this time either. I've heard the new album will have a more modern sound to it and he also fired most of his musicians. Should be interesting.

>>72511721
>Mandrake
My nigga, I was just about to make a post about them.

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What's your favorite Genesis album and song?

>>72513572
A very valid question. ...Wow, 4/5 of their album covers have some sort of flying creature on them.
Let's see long I have to watch the rather unusual music video for "It's My Life" before birds turns up. ...Five seconds.

>>72505877
What would Mr.Bungle be considered?

I'm not really sure how to even classify them.

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>>72514993
Dance with the Moonlit Knight

>>72514993
Abacab.

t. prog expert who has countless reviews in progarchives and an unfinished doctorate thesis about the chord structures of TAAB

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>>72505877
>>72510860
If you think that it's pretentious, you've been taken for a ride.

Also if prog died in 1979, explain pic related.

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>>72514993
Favorite song is either Supper's Ready or Carpet Crawlers.

>>72513646
wikipedia says this is from 1967, never heard it before but this sounds ahead of it's time

>>72515301
Only 2 types of people manage to listen Collins-era Genesis. Plebs who hate progressive rock or absolute patricians who basically listened the entire genre. I kinda relate to that notion. It's both entry and exit level at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7CLy70WtI
Thoughts on this?

>>72515301
I kinda want to reach the prog awareness level of yours.

>>72515529
Literally this.

Pleb level is only liking Collins Genesis.

Normie level is only liking Gabriel Genesis.

Patrician level is when you realize all of Genesis is top tier and that Genesis is the single most clever and gifted prog band of all time; not only surviving the 80s and the 90s, but embracing them.

>>72506227
It's actually not bad at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2haXwpj2rn0

This is cray cray.

>>72505902
Why find a flaw in what is already perfect?

>>72505902
Album cover is too bland.

90125 isn't Prog.

>>72515529
I love Gabirel-Genesis, but damn I can't go wrong with Duke sometimes. It's their last true 'prog' album.

>>72515929
anything post Drama by YES is garbage. Drama was really well done, it was their best 80s album.

>>72515476
Yeah, it is. Its heavy symphonic and also considered one of the first concept albums of its kind, as you probably read on wikipedia. give it a listen if orchestral rock is your thing

>>72515929
Fact.

>>72514565
FUCKING THIS

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>>72513572
It goes even deeper than I thought.
>>72515476
Damn, how how have you gone this long without hearing about Days of Future Passed? The concept is undoubtedly ahead of its time, I'd even argue it's the first PROPER prog record ever made, but the actual style could not be any more mid 60s.
>>72515701
...They didn't survive the 90's, bra. Notice their last record with Collins was 26 years ago.

>>72516652
They were still popular in the 90s is more of what I was getting at. We Can't Dance was 1991, and there was enough desire for a resurgence that they did have another record in 1996. Granted, it wasn't a great record, but there's no doubt Genesis had a bigger impact on the 90s than any of the other big prog bands.

>>72515301
>>72515640
>prog expert

>>72506063
>Why not Supertramp?
To me, Supertramp is more of an pop band that dabbles in prog from time to time, like Crime of the Century and the like.

>>72513604
>They're underrated
>Band that is played to death on the radio

They're about as underrated as Pink Floyd.

>>72513646
>>72515476
Do i listen to extended edition or remastered edition?

Name me some good prog that was composed in the 21st century.

>>72517551
Is this actually taking suggestions, or trying to have people prove something to you?

Because if it's the latter, you're either going to say"Sounds too samey to everything else" or "it's shit" because it has newer elements of music to it.

>>72517551
The Mars Volta, Coheed and Cambria, the list could go on...

>>72517551
Time Machine Modulus

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>>72517551
Arti & Mestieri - Universi Paralleli

someone fucking explain to me how post rock, math rock, and some alternative rock is not "progressive" rock
if Discipline is prog then other albums that advance rock music instrumentally without trying to be jazz or classical should be too

>>72517859
Because people like to slap labels on everything without cut and dry definitions of those labels.

You can't just slap everything into a box.

>>72517859
...Who said they aren't? Though I would like to know "alternative" you have in mind, as that's been such a vague term for 20 odd years.

>>72517551
Porcupine Tree

>>72517551
See
>>72511128

>>72517979
Radiohead (sometimes), Muse (sometimes), MBV (again, sometimes), and the probably hundreds of bandcamp projects I've only just reached into

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Thoughts about the new Ayreaon album?

>>72518886
First I've actually listened to them due to a couple of the guest singers.

I guess I liked it, lots of interesting and intricate parts, but it felt like it drug on for ever and sounded kinda samey after a while. Like i get it's playing off a theme, but after you hear that theme repeat for the 100th time in a similar fashion it's just dull.

>>72517538
um i guess remastered. I just play the normal album from spotify. There arent any bonus tracks or anything on it. Im sure itll be good either way though.

>>72506026
Surely you mean Steven Hackett who just dropped a new album

>>72517606
uhh no I'm genuinely willing to give some newer stuff a chance, I'm familiar with the classics

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So why is the kettle dry folks?

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>>72514993
Dance on a Volcano

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>>72515701
I like you.

>>72519644
In that case I'll name what i listen to, it's mostly prog metal though.

Animals as Leaders(Instrumental, djenty and jazzy, very different)
Between The Buried and me
The contortionist
Haken
Native Construct
Cynic(Sort of a forerunner to prog metal with jazzy elements)
Liquid Tension Experiment(Instrumental)
Blotted Science(Instrumental, very technical)
Plini(Instrumental)
Dream Theater
Exivious(Instrumental, kind of jazzy)

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Been a bad couple of years for Prog deaths. But this one in particular got me.

RIP John Wetton
>with UK live w/ Eddie Jobson & Terry Bozzio 2012 Montreal
https://youtu.be/ZX39JUjoJ-s

Recording is a little rough

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Is this, dare I say it, the best album cover of all time?

>>72514626
>>72506103
>HCE is 10/10
>Raven is bad
I came into this thread expecting bad opinions but w e w

>>72517551
Corima - Quetzalcoatl
Yuka & Chronoship - The 3rd Plantary Chronicles
Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard
maudlin of the Well - Bath + Part the Second

>>72519783
that entire record is great. really love the title track & caesar's palace blues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAY_84q5WAs

Fuck I love me some Haken
20 minute prog epic

>>72511017
Relayer was ok.

Psst.
Post more prog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx6q9PFguVQ

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Why are plebs afraid of Prog songs that are longer than 10 minutes?

>>72520415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3YlEft368

>>72520611
Fuck that's hitting me in the feels.

Post something uplifting

>>72520550
If you don't like long songs, you don't like prog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJgjtD7pO_8
Also, my contribution

>>72520611
Rishloo are a fucking good band.

>>72520699
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJgjtD7pO_8 [Open]

Wow. That's bordering on Jazz Fusion but that's ok because it's amazing. Thanks for that one.

>>72520780
>Wow. That's bordering on Jazz Fusion

I know, but that's what is great about prog, blending multiple genres seamlessly while making it sound like a flowing complete piece. Pure talent that can reach from one end of a spectrum to another.

Anyways I wanna share Nova Collective with you guys

They're kind of a 70's 80's fusion/acid/avante garde jazz sound, but with some modern metal twists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHqSCifSr9g&list=PL6mEMKR79XTJMLtmzFZ6ccENkrKQHsRsi&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHqSCifSr9g&list=PL6mEMKR79XTJMLtmzFZ6ccENkrKQHsRsi&index=4

A super group consisting of the Between the Buried and me(also trioscapes) Bass player,The Trioscapes drummer, Hakens Guitarist, and Hakens ex-keyboard player.

So much talent within one band, it's nuts.

>>72520887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zugwYbg4__c&list=PL6mEMKR79XTJMLtmzFZ6ccENkrKQHsRsi&index=3

Realize i Posted the same link twice, sorry, I'm halfway through a handle of rum.

>>72520699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wWuun-adj0

>>72520731
Yes they are. They get accused of being too derivative of Tool/Mars Volta quite a lot on here, but the only album of theirs I'd say falls into that trap would be their debut. Eidolon had three songs that had the guitar work of Tool, but the vocals are still pretty distinct. Feathergun and Living as Ghosts sound pretty much nothing like Tool, and as far as the Volta comparison, I only hear it in the vocals. High range, lots of vibrato. Love it.

>>72520900
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wWuun-adj0 [Embed]
Bretty gud, I liek it

Anyone who bumps my post >>72520699 , making a contribution I'll post one back and try to keep this thread alive, I barely see prog on /mu/ and it's always great discovering music you guys post when you have a decent thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQDK6kyMOf0&index=2&list=PLaYW5hGMpipfdIHJlusLFnH35Tv4tL_k9
Native Construct, more progmetal, and some what theatrical, but one of my favorites. Their singer can cover a wide range as well as screaming/growls, and they fucking shred some 8 string guitars.

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Eyes Needles
>Barry Andrews (XTC) & Robert Fripp riff

https://youtu.be/HFpgVGyyJxM

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If Dark Side of the Moon is universally considered to be progressive rock, why isn't this?

>>72521483
i think ok computer would be the dark side of the moon of this generation

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>>72521507

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>>72506206
prog aoty is already here

>>72521483
I unironically consider joanna newsom and radiohead to be prog desu

>>72505877
1. Red
2. Larks Tongues In Aspic
3. Beat
4. Discipline
5. ITCOTCK

>>72511128
There are people outside of Finland who know about CMX? Cool.

>>72523313
1. ITCOTCK
2. Discipline
3. Red
4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
5. Three of a Perfect Pair
6. Beat
7. Starless and Bible Black
8. In the Wake of Poseidon
9. Lizard
10. Islands

>>72511128
have you ever seen a worse selection of album covers

>>72517658
i love this because they actually sound like any of the other shitty 2000s prog bands out there

>>72505997
I think it's "dear little dolly", but she speaks that part kind of quickly and clipped so it's hard to tell

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Big thanks to the anon who posted this the other day, it's really fucking good.

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Does /proge/ like swancore? I assume no but it beats steven wilson at least

>>72523835
They are rated pretty highly on RYM

>>72523313
>>72523973
1 larks
2 red
3 itcock
4 starless & bible black
5 discipline
6 lizard
7 toapp
8 wake
9 islands
10 beat
Stopped after that for now though

>>72523973
1. Red
2. ITWOP
3. ITCOTCK
4. Discipline
5. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
6. Lizard
7. Starless and Bible Black
8. Islands
9. Thrak
10. Three of a Perfect Pair
11. Beat
12. Construkction of light
13. Power to believe

>>72521483
>>72521507
>>72522283
>>72522436
Dark Side isn't prog. Pink Floyd isn't prog.

>>72524592
*wrong

>>72524649
its pop rock

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>>72524762

>>72524592
Animals and wywh could be considered prog. Dsotm has psychedelic themes lyrically but the songs are structured pretty conventionally so id just call it psych or rock.

>>72526637
ALL psych rock = prog rock
deal with it

>>72524404
The vocals are unbearable

>>72520550
If a pleb can make it to even 9, they're moving up the ranks. A hopeless one will tell you to turn something off it goes past 6.
>>72524592
Keep telling yourself that.

>>72526741
don't delete your post and correct a spelling/grammar mistake. its INCREDIBLY cringey and we don't do that around here so it makes it obvious that you haven't been here long
just a heads up

>>72526734
Tilians castrato vocals kinda grew on me for the past few albums but dgd has all the wank of prog combined with 80's genesis level pop sensibilities senpai.

>>72526696
So the beatles were prog too?

>>72515328
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>>72526891
have you even listened to half their albums? they did things that NOBODY did at the time and progressed the rock genre which is by DEFINITION prog rock.

>>72526891
They kinda are dude. Don't blame me for the genre names being all screwed up.

>>72505902
some of the best songs ever almost ruined by excessive noodling

>>72526909
>>72526951
Death grips confirmed modern prog

>>72527012
they're more hip hop than rock but sure

>>72505877
It's time to [spoiler]kill yourself[/spoiler]

>>72523973
1. ITCOTCK
2. Larks
3. Discipline
4. Red
5. Islands
6. Wake of Poseidon
7. Three of a Perfect Pair
8. Beat
9. Starless and Bible Black
10. THRAK
11. Lizard

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>>72519696
Thanks Phil

>>72524295
DRIP DRIP

>>72511128
Anybody have any other proge charts?

>>72507436
thye sound awesome live.

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>>72505946
Yeah don't forget jazz infused grindcore blackened thrash with neoclassical elements

>>72524132
covers created while on drugs, selected while on drugs.

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>>72524404
best swancore/aoty '16 right here
>>72526734
you mean theyre unbelievable?

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>>72529104

This is their longest track, they went more for the technical virtuosity route.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9se2ZYOJCis

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>>72523313
>>72523973
>>72524498
>>72524539
>>72527162

1. The Great Deceiver
2. Absent Lovers
3. Red
4. Larks'
5. ITCOTCK
6. Discipline

Involving live albums > being a pleb

Does /mu/ like Chris Squire's only solo album "Fish out of Water"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyG08QMKt8o

Its a very nice relaxing album, Squire is really strong on his own.

>>72526763
Keep cringing then, cause I don't follow your lead.

>>72529664
Bedroots went from my least to most favorite song fast. That fucking progression in the chorus is wild

>>72512050
>I am insecure starter pack
Nice chart

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you faggots need to listen to this asap

>>72530146
its time to go back

>>72530584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMJsrZkEZZw

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>>72506302
>moody blues aren't prog

Nigga what are you on about

>>72513646
Picked these fuckers up for $1 apiece at a church yard sale. Always loved DOFP but man, I'm really diggin On the Threshold of a Dream. It's a lot darker for sure. I get a Surf's Up vibe from a lot of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOQlE221pmY

>>72530640
>moody blues aren't prog
Genres: Baroque Pop, Art Rock, Symphonic Prog, Psychedelic Pop, Tone Poem. Clearly a pop rock band, which takes influence from progressive rock.

>>72507216
It's all filler besides nine feet underground

>>72530735
>It's all filler besides nine feet underground
Just no. Other songs perfectly flow into eachother and set the mood for the grand finale - Nine Feet Underground. On the other hand, ELP's Tarkus is all filler except the title track.

>>72530730
art rock and psych rock are ALWAYS prog rock

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>>72530730
>takes influence from prog rock
>but also pre-prog by your own admission

Everyone knows art rock is synonymous with prog, it's just semantics. You can be a pop band and still be prog. They tick every box of prog rock.
>atypical instruments
>lofty artistic themes
>heavy influence of classical composition
>long drawn out songs, concept albums

>>72530772
You'll get no argument from me about ELP, they're wanky pop trash.

>>72530772
golf girl is cringey shit

My favorite prog is probably Rock Bottom and Pink Floyd. Where should I from this point?

>>72530640
thats a pretty good deal my friend. I've only recently gotten into them via DOFP, and am listening to ISotLC right now. my plan was to listen to On the Threshold of a Dream next. I'll definitely be getting DOFP on vinyl next time I'm at the record shop.

>>72530810
>ELP
>Pop trash
What? We're not talking about Love Beach here.

>>72530928
by pop i simply meant commercial, not genre

>>72530975
what do commercials have to do with music dumbshit?

>>72530992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg86lrkBqwY

:^)

>>72530975
What kind of a band makes progressive rock in hopes of achieving commercial success?

>>72531099
There's commercial bands then there's the SUPERGROUP STADIUM ROCK and overly produced wank that ELP shat out

>>72531093
Please sage when you shitpost.
:^)

>>72531126
I don't know how to do that I haven't seen the sage button on /r/music

>>72531122
>>72531126

>>72530861
Great analysis. Either way, I think it was done because of the atmosphere. Sure, it has twee elements, though it serves a purpose.
> it's the perfect whimsical English album I've ever heard

>>72531192
>it's the perfect whimsical English album I've ever heard

Have you never listened to the Kinks or Donovan or the Moody Blues or the Incredible String Band or Genesis?

>>72511046
>le peter gabriel was genesis

Atleast take a listen to what they did post the lamb

>>72531146
>>72530992
>>72531126

>>72531240
>it's the perfect whimsical English album I've ever heard
I just quoted a post I agree with. I've listened to Genesis and the same could be said for Selling England by the Pound. I'll definitely listen to the Incredible String Band. Thanks for recommendations!

>>72531342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoQ3tmohEX4 Start with this album famalam

>>72523313
>>72523973
>>72524498
>>72524539
>>72527162
>>72529970
1. Larks
2. Discipline
3. Starless
4. Red
5. ITCOTCK
6. Beat
7. ITWOP (replace the Devil's Triangle with something that isn't a ripoff and it would be higher)

>>72530640
>$1 apiece
What a fucking steal

Nice to see a successful prog thread here, I still have some hope for /mu/

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DEFEND NEO PROG

>>72530884
listen to all the canterbury scene bands

>>72530735
Winter Wine is a fucking masterpiece and I will not accept anyone try to claim otherwise sitting down. As is the bonus track, I Don't Know Its Name (Alias the Word).

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I AM A PROG PLEBEIAN. THESE ARE THE ALBUMS I HAVE HEARD.

please /mu/, help me ascend to the ranks of patrician. give me some recs

I can't get into ITCOTCK because the production sucks and I find it boring. Why is it hailed as prog's iconic album?

>>72506026
this guys such a fucking boring hack and a just a giant zit on the ass of prog rock in general. Fuck steve wilson

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If you haven't listened to all these albums you can't consider yourself a real prog fan

>>72533988
get Van der Graaf's Godbluff and Pawn Hearts.

>>72518886
it sounds like Ayreon, not like it's a bad thing

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>>72534120
>godbluff's songs are all over 7 minutes
this should be a good listen, i'll report back

>>72534106
at least a third of that isn't prog

out of context the intro to this song doesn't make sense, but it's still a good listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb1WntjHZso

>>72534217
>at least a third of that isn't prog
Are you dumb
Also Progarchives have prety loose definitions of what qualifies as prog

>>72534185
man I wish i could hear that album for the first time again.

Top five epics imo (15+ minutes)
1. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
2. Pink Floyd- Echoes
3. Yes - Close to the Edge
4. Emerson, Lake, and Palmer - Tarkus
5. Rush - 2112

>>72534336
i'm onto song two, it's just getting better

>>72534357
the whole second half of scorched earth is one of my favorite moments in music ever

those fucking drums

>>72534480
i absolutely HATED thick as a brick the first time i heard it. took a few months than i gave it a listen and it's my number one now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJj-KNTYLtk It's like Days of Future Passed all over again, with the added Canterbury twist. Sweet Jesus, do I love this. More like it, please. The Dabsong Conshirtoe is another criminally underrated prog epic from Caravan, for that matter.
>>72534342
If you're a prog newbie who's gonna follow this list, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not start with Thick as a Brick. Best you don't spoil yourself early on.

>>72534516
Now, how does that happen? It was "love in the opening 10 seconds" on my end.

>>72534550
i don't remember. i just remember not liking it, hearing it a second time, and not understand how i didn't like it. i must of been a plebian back then

>>72534342
Filthy non-classic top five epics:
1. IQ - Harvest of Souls
2. Green Carnation - Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness
3. Spock's Beard - The Great Nothing
4. Beardfish - Sleeping In Traffic
5. Unitopia - The Garden

Also where the fuck is Supper's Ready.

>>72534283
>has never listened to the actual album
>claims intro doesn't make sense

You're the reason humanity is killing itself.

>>72533988
Trilogy - ELP
DSOTM - Pink Floyd
>inb4 not prog
Eldorado - ELO
Crime of the Century - Supertramp
Breakfast in America - Supertramp
>its not really that proggy but if you like Crime, go for it
Days of Future Passed - The Moody Blues
Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd

These won't bring you to Patrician Status, but it's a step in the right direction.

>>72534689
are you fucking retarded? of course i've listened to the entirety of joe's garage, i was just saying it might not make sense to someone who's never heard it. kys

>>72534713
It's not an out of context intro that doesn't make sense. So you're statement was wrong. Penis.

>>72534736
out of the context of the album it doesn't make sense. how fucking inbred can you get?

>>72534623
The best modern prog epics are Anesthetize and Second Life Syndrome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSEQZ8reJA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLhLKLLJOnA

>>72534791
And if you take a wheel of a car it's out of context aswell so suddenly doesn't make sense? Do you even understand what you're saying?

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Why ;_;

>>72534811
that is the stupidest argument i have ever heard

>>72534808
Anesthetize is great aswell, would get a spot in my top 10. Love Voyage 34: The Complete Trip and The Sky Moves Sideways from Porcupine aswell.

Don't know Riverside.

>>72534867
So's youre mum.

>>72530735
>>72533275
only bad track is "love to love you", everything else is gold

>>72534808
>>72534878
also Dream of Stone by Gazpacho and homesick by Airbag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c6nuFFgZgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQyR5dTZKts

>>72533988
needs Genesis, Camel, and King Crimson.

Selling England by the Pound (Genesis), Mirage (Camel), and ITCOTCK, or if you've already heard it, listen to Red (King Crimson).

>>72533275
Winter Wine is a song I can sing in my head lyric by lyric perfectly. It's such a beautiful song, and the opening to 9ft Underground is so memorable.

>>72534342
1. Supper's Ready by Genesis
2. Tarkus by ELP
3. Cygnus Series by Rush
4. Close to the Edge by Yes
5. Nine Feet Underground
6. Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Floyd

yeah im gonna cheat

>>72534825
>>72534808
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oZL5em0UgQ
What is it with prog metal bands and having the absolute worst lyrics? This might as well be Riversides own "XBOX".

>>72534106
>Kansas
>Dream Theater
>Opeth
I'm glad I can't consider myself a prog fan then.

>>72532500
desu Fish-era Marillion is like the only neo-prog band I like, I tried giving Pallas a listen but they never clicked. What are some of your favorite albums in the genre?

>>72533988
Deja-Vu - Baroque in the Future
Motoi Sakuraba - Gikyokuonsou
Circus - Movin' On
FM - Black Noise
Atoll - Musiciens Magiciens
Kenso - ή Σπάρτη (Sparta)
Mandrake - Unreleased Materials Vol. 2
Curved Air - Phantasmagoria
Renaissance - Live at Carnegie Hall

>>72535209
Marillion are by far the best, but I also enjoy IQ, all their albums are good except the two with Paul Mennel, Arena and Pendragon are also pretty consistently good, Galahad have one great album, Empires Never Last, but rest of their work is mediocre, Frost* made 2 great pop prog albums, but their comeback last year was mediocre, Poland had a few good neo-prog bands like Collage, Abraxas and Quidam, Sylvan and RPWL are pretty good German bands.

>>72506026
I'M TIRED OF FACEBOOK

https://youtu.be/H0vNEjSteeM

am i prog rock /mu/?

Is this prog?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd3btVhwr48

>>72534567
Maybe it was just your mood at the time.

>>72515301
>>72515529
Do you like Phil Collins? I’ve been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn’t understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins’ presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group’s undisputed masterpiece. It’s an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don’t you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I’ve heard in rock… Phil Collins’ solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and, uh, Against All Odds… But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.

check 'em

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>>72532098
I also found an original canadian pressing 1977 Star Wars soundtrack double LP, some other guff too. When records are $1 you can be way more impulsive, it was fun as fuck.

>>72535478
Well it certainly took long enough, anon.

>>72535478
>off by one

>>72534386
>>72534357
>>72534120
Always nice to see VDGG love here. Sleepwalkers has to be my favorite off Godbluff. Definitely my favorite mid-70s album

>>72515301
How do you feel about their self titled release from '83?

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>>72535533

>>72515359
Colony of the slipperman is the best track on that album.

>>72535478
damn bateman is a pleb. but duke is pretty good so, i don't know.

>>72516169
Minus the shite vocals.

>>72535513
>dueling banjos from Deliverance
good fucking buy, anon.

Which band has the most similar sound to early Rush without outright copying them?

>>72535795
Led Zeppelin, and the copying was the other way around. :^)

>>72534106
>Top 10
>3 Floyds

>Only 2 Genesis

>Only 1 Yes

What kind of a shit top 10 is that? The two greatest bands of history, Yes and Genesis could fill the top 10 themselves.

>>72535933
>Foxtrot nowhere to be found
>Nursery Chryme is second-tier
>The Yes Album is in "Other"
this list is garbage

>>72535988
>Foxtrot nowhere to be found
Someone's not paying attention.

>>72535795

Budgie.

>>72536017
i stand corrected

still, wheres Caravan atleast

>>72536038
That list is quite outdated. In the Land of Grey and Pink and "If I Could Do It Again, I'd Do It All Over You" are there, regardless Here's the current one. http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp And yes, #58 is far too low.

>>72514221
are you really appreciating it then?

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>>72511022
Going to drive to Morsefest this year. So fucking pumped. SoaD is GOAT.

>>72512352
on the contrary. I'm looking for new Prog music that does involve atheism so I cna avoid it.

Sick of that shit. Its like the modern Bourgious way of pretending to be deep. My other genre is punk and i can't listen to that cancer. Got halfway thorugh the new Descendants album and turned it offf.


>HURRR YOUR CHRISTIAN BUT YOU SUCK SO ATHEISM IS GOOD SHAMELESS HALO DUDE

>>72518886
First listen I like it better than Theory of Everything but I ended up really liking ToE so i'll be back in a week to give my full autistic review.

>>72522406
is that good? Should I download?

>>72535478
>mfw I was a complete and utter musical novice who had never listened to prog before when I had watched this movie
>mfw I now have a far greater appreciation of the story and much more deeply Bateman's character from his shit, plebby, poptimist music taste, as it is just another front he puts on to ingratiate himself with humanity

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Whats a good guitar for /prog/ ?

Thinking of the Eric Johnson stratocaster. Has nice vintage low output pickups, and '57 appointments on a sub $2k guitar.

I'm also looking at an ES-339 (don't like the bulkiness of the 335. I feel this guitar is just so classic.

Also considering the Tele Thinline 72 reissue and putting in some lower output pick ups.

No, I won't buy a JP anything. I don't like how Jew-ey he is with his shit. JP PICKS AND PICKUPS AND AMPS AND GUITARS AND CORDS AND PEDALS and then he just runs it through fractal and hides the natural sound.

Plus the pickups are so overwound it sounds like shit clean with no computer.

>>72536916
Are vocals really that distinguishable for you? I mean, I can't understand cleanly-sung ones eighty percent of the time without looking them up, let alone harsh ones, but my ears could just be all fucky. Lyrics are pretty much a non-factor when it comes to vocals and what I look for in them, anyway. You could have a pop prog crossover band singing about fucking a car exhaust for all I care, so long as the singers tone and pitch sound good and mesh well with everything else.

I also think you might be indulging in some hyperbole when you talk about the prevalence of those kinds of lyrics.

>>72535585
oh hell yeah, sleepwalkers is definitely the best on there. Some real fierce competition though. I love putting that album on at full volume and singing along to every word at the top of my lungs. I'm sure the neighbors love it slightly less but fuck em

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/pronk/

>>72537147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa8RmCf9CjI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruG01BF7EjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovi1SKwfyxU

>december 25th has been blacklisted
>since dawkins found the proof jesus never existed

wew lad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQadcqu20zg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53NAAtjRbzM&list=PLSbEeGMQbV5_ivCQ0UtDWhcoFLfwNoglN

etc. and so forth.

Its just annoying to listen to pot heads talk about religion like they have anything interesting to say.

>>72534106
>Miles Davis

>>72533988
tarkus alone makes you patrician

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Styx is not a bad band.

>>72537644
It ain't real prog though.

>>72538305
I'm guessing you don't like Uriah Heep either

>>72537644
Styx are actually a fucking great band. Grand Illusion, Equinox, Pieces of Eight, and Paradise Theatre I'd put all in the 8-9/10 range.

The new song they just released is fantastic too. Glad they're moving on and actually producing decent songs without DeYoung (I was always in the "Gowan's not so bad" camp myself and it's nice to see him get a chance to shine, on a lead single at that).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1gVIBKZ6cg

>>72538484
They certainly fit the mold much better. Styx is what I imagine a prog rock band made by a committee looks like. They qualify way more than something like Toto or Asia. Zero clue what gave anyone that impression to begin with.

Kansas could also be called corporate prog, but they *mostly* rose past that label in my book.

>>72539081
get the fuck out of here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7FCKyb-j14

>>72515328
Am I an asshole for not liking any Crimson after Red?

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>Pink Floyd is not prog

>>72506063
I went to a Roger Hodgson concert once and it's honestly one of the best concert's I've been to

How does /prog/ feel about Nektar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bf0x9fOULs

>>72539941
I was gonna post this!! I love Remember the Future, but I haven't explored anything else in their library.
>>72539866
Most progressive musicians can still put on a great show. Anderson, Wakeman, and Rabin (half of Yes) did an amazing show last year, and David Gilmour was great. I wanted to see Steve Hackett, but couldn't find the time sadly. I would see Roger Hodgson, but it'd feel weird not seeing Davies there. Would love to see them re-unite...but most prog bands are egoistical people who get into dumb feuds.

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>>72524295
I fell in love with this the other day, really great stuff.

Also, no love here for my Italian brothers?

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What do you guys think of Wigwam?

Really good
https://youtu.be/Yg1i6Y-ybTw

>>72539765
Yes

>>72534060
Boring? Really? Either way, Steven Wilson remastered it.

>>72540240
that album is constantly at the top of prog lists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZDZ1RQxFh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5lyhLFPeCU

>>72536979
its very good. mostly alt country but the transitions and instrumentation are nice. tracks 2, 4, 7 and 9 are legit prog rock tracks. shes similar to gazpacho if you've heard them, specifically march of ghosts and molok

>>72541624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujugByIhxdg
This is cool. Giving it a listen right now.

>>72541655
>>72541624
>>72536979
its more like the doors/ pink floyd and other blues/psych/folk rock type prog but its alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX3OeVtzvsU

>>72505877
>/prog/ general

more like /fag/ general

new thread when