Serious question jazz fans of /mu/, is Buddy Rich actually that

>>72435616
>or is he just seen as kind of a show-off douche that rock fans salivate over?
Mostly this. He was a good drummer and some of his big band recordings are good but that has as much to do with the good arrangements as it does with his drumming.

The most respected jazz drummers are Max Roach, Philly Joe Jones, and Art Blakey. Buddy Rich was important for rock and roll drummers, especially during the British Invasion.

>>72435616
He's cool to dislike because he's well known like Jimi Hendrix or Jimi Page for guitarists., but the man played with Charlie Parker, Count Basie. Lester Young etc.. He's objectively a legend of drumming.

>>72435710
uh? not really, you should probably actually talk to jazz musicians

Max Roach was better.

>>72435616
He was a monster player. He had incredible technique - SERIOUS chops. Yes, absolutely respected as on of the best ever. As a band leader, he was a legendary hard-ass and would scream at the band in the bus after a show, or fire people on the spot for fucking up on stage. Turns out, he had a big ol' brain tumor which may have contributed to his... personality.

>>72435710
>most respected
>Elvin Jones absent
stop

>>72436059
those tapes are one of the few things to go viral before the internet

playing CLAMS yet again

>>72435710
>No Elvin Jones
>No Tony Williams
Opinion discarded