Why are there no good lyricists anymore?

rap

Joanna Newsom is arguably the best of all time. Kozelek was top 10 during early RHP.

Bob Dylan isn't even good, dont' care what retarded Swedish academics have to say

There hasn't been a good lyricist since Hofmannsthal

>>72392918
Were either of them good?

>>72392996
what this guy says, even if a bit hyperbolic both Joanna and Koz are great

>>72393039
people suck him up like crazy, but he's fairly deserving of that imho.

>>72392936
This

>>72393076
Leonard Cohen is OK, but only OK. He's probably the only passable popular music lyricist

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>>72392918
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>72392996
JOanna Newsom is almost as good as Leonard Cohen but still not actually good

>>72392936
>>72393087
>>72393098
There aren't any good rap lyricists. Some are sporadically amusing though

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>>72392996
i agree although Koz pulled no punches on April and had some of the best lyrics of his career


>see: Tonight the Sky

>>72392936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alkw4-LysRA

what is this then

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>>72393149

>tooooniiiight
>the skieees
>will open for you
>mountains aaaaand
>and big clouds
>divide us in two

>>72392918
No one reads anymore. If they do it is Harry Potter and freeverse garbage.

>>72393188
Nice. Thought me, an anon in a sharethread a few months ago and an Austrian cripple were the only people who knew Listener on /mu/.

That's my favorite song by them as well.

lyricism har become solipsistic and humorless

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>>72393210
>I met my fallen Angel one last time
>I promised always through me she would shine
>I held her hands, I sunk into her heart
>Till powers unrelenting, pulled us apart

I never had a album/song pull my to tears till i heard April.

Because they're all in Americana and /mu/ don't fuck with Country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhk70M1KpDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEZOpU8Khc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_t_G42VHFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEj3KrzStzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJz8CiKIq1g

>>72392996
>Joanna Newsom is arguably the best of all time

/mu/ gets worse and worse every day.

>>72393076
No, they are overrated, and purely because they are Jewish and the media is Jewish

A Jew loves to give praise to another

>>72393278
She sometimes has unique metaphors/wordplay and doesn't descend into cliches too often. WHich sadly puts her above 99.99999999999999999% of lyricsts today

>>72393076
Yes, they're both among the greats. I'm honestly not sure who the contrarians in this thread think is so much better than them.

>>72393278
She probably doesn't have enough output to be reasonably considered best of all time but she's a master lyricist.

>>72393236
I found it through a sharethread on /mu/ in july-august 2016, basically the only time I found a band that I liked alot through those, through listener i also got into ramshackle glory

>>72393394
I judge all popular music lyricists against German Romantic poets

Sufjan Stevens is the best though

>>72393449
hes not even the best stevens

>>72393076
Dylan is considered so good that he was awarded the "Nobel Prize in Literature" in 2016.
to my knowledge the first and only lyricist to be recognized with so high an honor.

>>72393091
I dunno, I've heard Hallelujah, and I guess I see why it's a classic. I've also heard Suzanne and it was top cringe.

>>72392918
They're all moving to rap since it's the best way to express lyrical creativity. Even metal/rock vocalist are doing it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wo6dHiSm8C0

>>72393581
Cohen should have won though

>>72393581
Rabindranath Tagore wrote songs

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>>72393410
I might've been the one sharing it, ha. Was it the guy asking people to tell him jokes for an album? I also shared some of Pat's stuff, including Ramshackle Glory.

>>72393449
I love Sufjan's music, and he can write one hell of a moving song, but I'd not call him a *master* lyricist.

How about pic related?

>>72393625
Was he even nominated or considered by the Swedish Academy?

>>72393718
We'll find out in like 50 years

>>72393718
No idea, but Cohen is a better lyricist so he should have won

mewithoutYou is the best out there.

>>72393742
You can't win if you are not nominated.

>>72393098
Greatest lyricist of all time

>>72393648
Phil might be the best lyricist out right now.
He is a master of memetics in his lyrics and music for sure

>>72393614
>I've heard a lyricist's two most popular songs, I am qualified to give my opinion on his ability

>>72393581
Dylan didn't win the prize because his lyrics are worthy of literature (they're not). You should read up on the politics of that prize.

>Angel Olsen
>Sarah Midori
>Frank Ocean

>Sufjan "Motherfucking" Stevens
>John Darnielle

>>72394718
Are you telling me he fucked his mother?

>>72394718
>>John Darnielle
wana know how i know you're an angsty nu-male teen?

>>72394742
It would explain a lot.

>>72394770
Why does 4chan always have to use the least creative insults possible

>>72394770
>Not appreciating the Mountain Goats

I feel sorry for you, sweetheart.

>>72394815
>he hasn't browsed /jp/ or /qa/

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>>72392918
Aaron Weiss

>>72394383
So what is your conclusion as to why he won?