Black Sabbath and Ozzy

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Ozzy Osbourne

Distinctions Not Cost Effective [1980s]: I have no interest in his albums, but I do appreciate how he mooned the PMRC every chance he got. And his egg-frying scene in Penelope Spheeris's "The Decline of Western Civilization" is a classic.

>>72383809
Yeah, PMRC needed this guy! But I don't know about that scene, I have to check it out

GENERAL GATHER IN THEIR MASSES

Solo Ozzy was pretty mediocre anyway.

post your favorite black sabbath shirt

>>72383883
Not at the beginning, but Black Sabbath was his thing, that suited him. Sabbath are my favorite band

>>72383772
Lucked out with getting so many quality musicians and writers before screwing just about all of them. I like that quote from the Bark at the Moon era where he claimed he wrote all of the music one note at a time on the piano.

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>>72383903
I have exactly this t-shirt

OG Black Sabbath is actually the greatest band of all time and one of the most important. Their first five or six albums are absolutely flawless. Iommi could write a riff like no other man

>>72383913
"Lemmy and I were great friends. He was a lot smarter and more well-read than me--he had a whole shelf of books in his flat about the Roman Empire and Napoleon and the London Blitz and things like that. He could also write lyrics like it was nothing. And they were good lyrics too. Me, I can sit for hours trying to write a song before I come up with anything."

>>72383928
I wanna hug you

>>72383947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbeCFkl1D40

RIP

>>72383947
Maybe he meant Lemmy could write easily the lyrics, while Ozzy had to think a lot about them. In this passage Ozzy talks only about lyrics, not the music

Ozzy has been pretty humble and honest about his shortcomings and how he's not very good at anything. His only real contribution to Black Sabbath's songwriting was working out the melodies in the songs and occasionally playing harmonica.

>>72383981
Ozzy was never really a lyricist, though. Geezer wrote 99% of them in Sabbath and Bob Daisley wrote them all for his solo albums up until No More Tears.

>>72383948
They were just the goddamn best, man. It's like a special forces team of musicians. All their playing was great, but nothing ostentacious or out of place. Everyone was doing exactly what they needed to exactly when they needed too. So fucking tight.
I love Black Sabbath, and if you do too then I love you

>>72384000
Fairies Wear Boots was mostly Ozzy's lyrics, other than that Geezer did write practically everything. By the time they were working on SBS, he was complaining how Ozzy was a useless sack of crap who never contributed anything to their songwriting and why did he have to do everything himself.

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the mind behind sabbath was geezer

>>72384000
Yes right, how did I forget that? So I guess Ozzy wasn't expected to write the lyrics (for Sabbath), cause Geezer was the one who made up lyrics, his bandmate knew that. So I don't know what Ozzy said there, it's a contradiction

1. Paranoid
2. S/T
3. Vol. 4
4. MoR
5. SbS
6.NSD
7.Sabotage

>>72384031
What you say is what I really believe about them. Never again will exist such a great band, frankly.

>>72384098
Switch MOR and V4, Sabotage and NSD and I agree. Also TE at the bottom

>>72384098
everything past 5 is unessential

>>72384120
passed*

>>72384108
We are one of soul.

>>72384117
MoR and Vol. 4 is probably tied for me, I like NSD mostly because of Air Dance, that song is just so fucking good. I'll admit I haven't listened too much to sabotage yet..
The list will most likely be different in a month, that's what's so great about them.

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>>72384098
Where is BLACK SABBATH????

>>72384157
S/T = self titled

>>72384157
spot number 2 mate ;)

>>72384143
I love you. Oh you know it (Sweet Leaf)

>>72384098
Heaven and Hell > Mob Rules > Born again > Ozzy sabbath
THE FACT

>>72384151
I bounce Sabotage and NSD back and forth depending on my mood. The riff on Into the Void is just so goddamn perfect it boosts MOR over V4 for me. I respect your onions though

any other similar bands to check out? I really enjoy Pentagram and Witchfinder General

>>72384172
I didn't even notice that. Sorry

>>72384184
Dio's the fucking man but it just isn't the same band.

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>>72383772

Black Sabbath wouldn't be half the band it was if it wasn't for this lovable drunk sweetheart of a man. A fucking powerhouse live, nobody can really match his style. He really was the soul of the band I think, he seemed to really care about what was being played and knew he was in the presence of a brand new genre and gave it his all every show.

>>72384184
DISTURBING THE PRIEST?! NOT IN THE LEASSSSSSSSSSST

>>72384200
One of my favorite bands are Cathedral.

>>72384205
Ward mostly shines on the first three albums since they consisted mainly of herky-jerky short licks that gave the rhythm section a lot of chance to do things. From Vol 4 onward, him and Geezer become less important as their sound switched to more flowing, continuous guitar.

Into The Void, which closes out the third album kind of predicts where they were going.

>>72384200
From Encyclopedia Metallum:
Candlemass
Saint Vitus
Trouble

>>72384205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etPbnNe-K7w
absolute madman

Is this band along with Talking Heads pretty much impossible to hate?

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post your sabbat stuff, I picked up this the other day

>>72384316
>inb4 someone posts the Christgau reviews

>>72383772
what happened to him though, from a deranged weirdo singer in one of the the gloomiest 70s acts to a reality show MTV celebrity, really?

>>72384337
I would be interested to see what he finds repulsive about Black Sabbath. Probably something along the lines of "toxic masculinity". I'm not even a big metal fan, but they almost singlehandedly invented heavy metal and doom metal.

black sabbath really has a good fanbase, any other thread about a specific band I've been in is just a massive shit fest. comfy thread

>>72383772
hell be fine

>>72384368
I'm not sure, but drugs and subsequent treatment and recover must've cost a lot.

>>72384316
The only bands that nobody can hate are:

Beach Boys
Aerosmith
RHCP
Radiohead
Blink 182
Smash Mouth

>>72384399
Recovery*

>>72384368
Cracking the US as a solo artist will do that.

>>72384408
all are hated, deservedly so in most cases

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>>72384335
This is the new Metal Hammer from Greece, dedicated to Black Sabbath

>Why does the music sound malevolent? It’s not just because dark, foreboding lyrics are sung to the music. From the opening riffs of the song “Black Sabbath” through most of their classic albums, the music can sound downright evil. It shouldn’t be surprising then that the secret to this sound is something known as the Devil’s Interval or diabolus in musica. The sound is so ominous that this interval was supposedly banned by clerics in the Middle Ages forfear that it would raise the devil himself. Still, what actually makes this musical interval sound evil? The diabolus in musica is also known as a tritone (or diminished fifth). Spanning three tones, the interval violates a musical convention and sounds dissonant, producing an unsettling feeling in the listener.

>>72384408
not a fan of the beach boys, altough I don't hate them
but yeah I can't hate (or even slightly dislike) smash mouth

>Geezer Butler was a fan ofThe Planets, an orchestral suite by the composer Gustav Holst. On the day before Tony Iommi came up with the epoch-making riff for the song “Black Sabbath” Butler played “Mars, the Bringer of War” on his bass. Guess what figures prominently in “Mars”? The tritone. It must have stuck in Iommi’ssubconsciousbecause out it came the next day. The tritone became a signature element of Black Sabbath’s music and a mainstay in later heavy metal music.

>>72384445
Yes

>>72384439
interesting, thanks for sharing anon

>>72384471
I am a fan, but I wasn't aware of the fact that Geezer was inspired by classical music. While we're here, let's hear it:
https://youtu.be/2KnyL4IFcwo

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After Dio and Appice left (Or were fired, depending on who you believe) the band in 1982, Iommi and Butler wanted to recruit David Coverdale and Cozy Powell into Sabbath, which looked like it was gonna go through until EMI aborted the move at the last minute.

What do people think? Would a really guteral, bluesy singer like Coverdale have worked in the band?

>>72384571
It would really be like Deep Purple, I think Gillian was for the best

>>72384377
Black Sabbath [Warner Bros., 1970]

The worst of the counterculture on a plastic platter--bullshit necromancy, drug-impaired reaction times, lengthy solos. They claim to oppose war, but if I don't believe in loving my enemies, then I don't believe in loving my allies and I've been worried that something like this was going to happen ever since I first saw a numerology column in an underground newspaper. C-

Paranoid [Warner Bros., 1970]

I suppose I could learn to enjoy them as camp--the title cut is certainly screamworthy. After all, their audience can't possibly take that whole Lucifer bit seriously, can they? Anyway, I've always suspected that horror movies catharsized things I was too rational to care about in the first place. C-

Master of Reality [Warner Bros., 1971]

As an increasingly regretful spearhead of the great Grand Funk Railroad switch three years ago, in which the critics defined Grand Funk as a good old white boy blues band, although I knew of no critics, myself included, who actually played the records. Grand Funk are American--dull. Black Sabbath are English--dull and decadent. I don't care how many rebels and incipient groovers are buying, I don't even care if the band actually believes their own Christian/liberal/satanist muck. This is a dimwitted, amoral exploitation. D+

We Sold Our Souls For Rock and Roll [Warner Bros., 1976]

By concentrating on songs (of the 18 cuts here, 13 are from the first three albums) and omitting such pro-tempo-formula-virtuoso moves like "Rat Salad", this makes for a fitting mock nostalgia document. Three cuts hail from the band's fourth LP, cleverly titled Black Sabbath Vol 4, which I never got around to putting on back in 1972. And you know what? I'm still not sure I've heard anything on it. C+

Everything Rocks and Nothing Ever Dies [1990s]

>>72384408
>RHCP
>Radiohead

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>>72384611
What is this?

>>72384611
>they scare me!
that's basically all of his reviews

>>72384650
Just some Cuckgau faggotry.

>>72384611
Oh, yes, the man who has the most eloquent way of saying absolutely nothing. Thanks for posting this, I appreciate the laughs!

How to make a song that Christgau will like:

1. Catchy
2. Loud
3. Left wing
4. Optimistic
5. Helps if the artist is from New York City

Hand Of Doom so far ahead of its time

>>72384772
A spooky riff in there

>>72384712
He never actually explains anything about the album, just his feels while listening to it.

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>>72383903
bought this one on their final tour

>>72384571
I don't think it would've worked all that well, at least on the back catalogue. Yeah, Coverdale's a way better singer than Ozzy and was roughly in the ballpark of Dio ability-wise, but his soul-oriented blues voice would've come off as a bit awkward on the older material, imo

>>72385072
You need a guy with a flat, one-octave voice to do the Ozzy stuff properly. Dio couldn't quite pull it off, and Rob Halford also sounded terrible trying to cover those songs.

>>72385204
>You need a guy with a flat, one-octave voice to do the Ozzy stuff properly

That's me. If I had a microphone handy, I'd get on Vocaroo and show you. I can sing most of the songs from the first three albums perfectly and on-key.

>>72385304
prove it

>>72383772
da gawd

dio sabbath may as well not exist as far as i'm concerned 2bh

Why did they bully Bill Ward so much? His drumming was amazing and definitely made their sound stand out.

>>72385304
You've had 3 yours to find a mic boy

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People, the song A National Acrobat from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath talks about Satan? Cause I always thought it was about God

>>72388025
All I know is how much I love the ending of that song.

>>72388045
Epic

>>72383772
Belinda looks like him

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>>72383772
About time Anons start talking of Black Sabbath I'll post my pics and favorite bootlegs. Any of you guys in Philly, and or South Jersey?

Will always like Black Sabbath better than led Zeppelin

>>72384057
Yes he was.
Black Sabbath 71 philly spectrum
https://youtu.be/_zO5JV3LCvg

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>>72389217
Same fag
Asbury park 75 by far the best quality sound wise
https://youtu.be/YpBBUMjo8Ng
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Earliest New Jersey recording 71

>>72388025
I think its something about the Buddhist cycle of reincarnation and how abortion disrupts it.

They did a lot of acid.

>>72384151
You should listen to Sabotage man, it's really good. It gets slept on but it's just as good as their previous releases.

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>>72384271
> " Into the void predicted where they were going "
So it predicted Laguna sunrise, FX, and changes ?it predicted Black Sabbath's 91 collab with Ice T?

Still blows my mind how heavy Master of Reality is, especially considering it came out in goddamn 1971.
I don't know if anything came close for at least a decade, and it still holds up today.

>>72384316
My mum hates talking heads

bootleg hours?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af8If4Gz8k8

>Paranoid is the worst track in Paranoid
What did they mean by this?

>>72389673
Add to that Geezer still being a practicing Catholic and you get some truly bizarre lyrics.

>>72393714
No to mention a strict vegitarian .