What caused this board's massive decrease in popularity?

>>72377959
everyone's shit taste in music

its not summer

No one fucking posts here anymore

>>72377985
not for much longer

fantano/pitchfork/scaruffi drones

poptimism and hip hop

i stopped posting here years ago when i realized that /mu/core is static and everything else i could be exposed to i can find on my own
too many shitposts here to make reading this board worth it when better resources exist

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>>72377959
The surge in topics discussing a musician's looks, acts, beliefs, etc., while discussion on a musician's music dwindled.

Basically a /tv/-lite.

Has it? How do you know?

>>72378111
>the things people were talking about caused people to not talk about things
Fuck off you goddamn whiner. Also, all of those things except poptimism have been a part of /mu/ for at least 10 years.

>>72378155
>Has it? How do you know?

It's pretty obvious dude..

People became less original. Its just the same bullshit every time and you can only shitpost (the basis of any 4chan board) in like 20% of threads because there are too many slow, shitty generals in the catalog. Plus I'm the only normie left on the whole board.

>>72377959
Trolls

>>72378209
Oh so you're just sort of figuring based on your impression of how things used to be. k

/mu/ has like 200-300 posters a day. Truly dead at this point.

>>72377959
the term "numale"

>>72377959
culture is dead and yes that includes music. Nothing but white noise out there. you get numb to this shit. everyone can access whatever music no matter how obscure, even the most avant 2deep4u videos on youtube have autists with anime/brony avatars commenting under them. That's right, you've done it /mu/, you've won the war. I hope you are happy with the world you created. Everyone is now aware all those omgsosindieh music sites were label PR fronts all along.All those special new bands were just consumer products all along. Even 'poptimism' has collapsed as a viable ideology. The clinton campaign can be seen as the highest point for 'poptimism' and ultimately as its downfall. 'pop culture' turned out to be the harbinger of fascism rather than woke consumer utopia, I guess we should have seen that coming. Its like god has been sucked out of this world. Nothing means anything anymore, nothing is 'relevant' anymore. Yet there's a vague sense of dread hanging over you at the time. late capitalist civilisation civilisation is collapsing into impending catastrophic violence but everyone is rather numb to it, I'd say we are doomed.

>>72378128
kek

Ok I feel you, but in regards to music? You're just getting old man.

Too many memes and bait. No one takes anything seriously anymore

the weirdest thing is that /mu/ somehow becomes more elite and patrician with the influx of outsiders
why is this?

>>72377959
the new counterculture (conservative) has nothing to do with music, and more with respecting cops, being 100% hetero and venerating the entrepreneur. this is what the hip countercultural youth of today are digging: U-U-UHURU (proud boys).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXpffMXUcAg

>>72378128
>Basically a /tv/-lite.

Except /tv/ is an active board and people at least care enough to shitpost there. This place on the other hand is deserted.

Tumblr, reddit, newfags first board outside of /b/. This board is now pretty much current top 100 rappers and general /mu/core that everyone from 2012 has already heard and now its shitposting in every thread.

Really I like slower boards but it's just bizarre seeing board that used to be very popular and have a lot of board-culture reduced to reduced to a catalog with a bunch of scattered failed threads with maybe 4-7 replies. /mu/ use to be a pretty big player in the 4chan ethos and now it's just forgotten about.

>>72378427
damn. lefties bitched the fuck out. conservatism is like a cool frat i was never allowed in because of road rash face and fat gut.

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>>72378427
>respecting cops, being 100% hetero and venerating the entrepreneur
>counter-culture

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music is a more challenging art form to grasp than visual forms as it is more abstract. Most people don't understand basic music theory and can't discuss music beyond "I like this" or "I don't like this" so you have threads full of people who can't communicate anything interesting or meaningful between each other so instead they just shit on each others tastes and regurgitate things they heard some critic say.

>>72378661
So the answer is because /mu/ is filled with total dullards. I agree.

The problem isn't really music theory though, it's a more ubiquitous understanding of evaluating art.

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>>72378290
>culture is dead

social media is our culture now

music, movies, art, etc. are obsolete forms of culture now

expression is communication

you need to communicate something? no need to go further than twitter or facebook now

write a song? ha! for what purpose?

>>72378754
This. Knowledge is music theory doesn't matter in discussion, so long as you can articulate the emotional and mental responses you get from music.

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I come to /mu/ just to shitpost.

>>72378780
That makes no sense. You don't sound smart.

>>72378806
yes it does

you're just admitted you were too dumb to understand

>>72378111
But discussion of those artists that Fantano/Scaruffi love also form the basis of /mu/core and thus /mu/ as a whole.

>>72378828
Am I now

>>72378840
yes

hence your frustration

>>72378427
So the new counterculture is just culture?

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When the boards #1 influence decided this is what should be discussed

Now its just a place for Reddit/KTT/Twitter kids to post on, anything of typical board culture results in a ban on /mu/

/tv/ is thriving, no surprise the two biggest meme producers on 4chan are pol and tv..rly makes you think

This place is dead and it deserves to be

>>72378796
;-; a dying culture ,_,

>>72378913
mainstreem culture is just a parade of leftist sjws with neon hair shrieking endlessly about white privilege. Come join the 'cool dudes' at your Young Republicans meet

>>72377959
Because literally the only "interesting" "new" shit going on in the music world is shitty soundcloud rap like XXSManletrage and Lil Peep

Every once in a while you get an extremely high-profile album like DAMN. that gets shitposted into oblivion but that's only a bimonthly thing at best

I wouldn't be surprised if this board is a ghosttown in 3 years. /v/ is the only entertainment board where its medium is experiencing at least /somewhat/ of a renaissance even if it is still all ultimately shitty.

>>72379037

Good albums come out all the time, mu just doesnt care about

New Guided by Voices was great, couldnt get a thread on here to get more than 4 replies

Mu only talks about Fantano core/meme rap top 49

>>72378427
Only a matter of time before lame-ass Patrick Bateman clones like that crash their bus.

>>72379088
>Guided by Voices
oh I see the problem now

>>72377959

overloading of forced memes

>>72379037
/v/ is utter garbage. Are you kidding me?

There's less shit throwing going on there but only because all the sensible people left and it was distilled down to the most obnoxious neckbeards and they just jerk eachother off.

Good fucking luck actually trying to facilitate any kind of conversation there.

It stopped being the home of the feels

2010-fag here. for me, it was the combination of kpop, fantano and pretentious rap.

>>72379196

Once Mosesposted ended, so did this board as we know it

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>>72379211
for me it's the McChicken the best fast food sandwich!

Where are y'all getting the idea that it's decreased in popularity?

I mean I agree that the the board has gone to shit, but in general it used to be slower in the past. If anything it's the popularity that's harmed it.

>>72378925
/mu/ became a slave to identity politics and an outrage driven content economy. When the content economy imploded somewhere after the 2016 elections, we were left marooned in a world without narratives. nobody can say with a straight face that 'the music scene' has any social relevance anymore. /mu/core has been meme'd to death, it's like the music itself was deprived of its aura. Walter Benjamin said this was the effect of mass production on art, the loss of the aura. Same thing happens even to obscure stuff which collectors once spent their lives searching in dusty record stores, it's now immediately accesible to anyone at the click of a mouse. Something is lost, some sort of vaguely spiritual quality. poptimism can be seen as a last shot attempt at recovering the aura through 'social relevance', but even this has proven futile.

How do you know it decreased in popularity?

>>72378613
It really started faltering mid-2015. It was still alright until then but this is ridiculously slow.

>>72379231
/ck/ is a quality boad, sorta slow with the right amount of shitposting.

it reminds me of old /mu/.

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/mu/core. People still cling to shitty Pitchfork-core that they were into when they were 16 because "muh culture". There are people on this board still think Radiohead is the best band in the world.

Also, Fantano sucks.

>>72379037
i don't buy that explanation, simply because if people who like music want to discuss music it's going to happen regardless if there are exciting new innovations and movements in music at every turn

a more logical explanation is that the majority o this board doesn't appreciate music beyond surface value entertainment so frankly they're not going to be the most opinionated nor are they going to want to discuss it in depth, if you actively observe this board for a week and take note of the type of posts and threads create regularly it's pretty obvious to understand where im coming from

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>>72379267
I'm not reading any of that

Have a nice thread

>>72379267
>>72378925
This is ridiculous because ideas like this get a lot of groundswell are criticizing other music sites' emphasis on politics isn't something that's contentious. This board doesn't take Pitchfork seriously at all. This is the most mixed board in political beliefs. It's not that the board is left leaning.

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>>72379360
>This board doesn't take Pitchfork seriously at all

lmao

>>72377959
absolutely terrible people

grimesfags, kpopfags, kanyefags, bleep listeners who only like SHITTY old techno, the memerap heads, etc etc etc. not to mention the highest population of underage on the website

/mu/ has the perfect amount of activity for me, I wouldn't want there to be a big increase in traffic.

You can't even keep up with threads on boards like /pol/ because there's 20 news posts every 5 seconds.

>>72379360
this board prides itself on not taking consumer culture seriously while at the time being hopelessly in thrall to consumer culture. That's what mu was all about.

>>72377959
People left after hip hop became prevalent

Music is so much more accessible these days. I don't need /mu/ to give me obscure recommendations anymore and a way to download - there's 100s of platforms to find music and listen/download instantly.

I don't think it's a huge deal, no board culture sucks, there were some good times on this place for sure, just go to live shows and keep listening to good music. Better if you have people to share those experiences with.

>>72378124
This

>>72377959
>massive decrease in popularity
[citation needed]

>>72379360
>mu isnt left leaning
>mu isnt heavily influenced by p4k
>hillary has a 98% of winning

>>72379246
>>72379433

>this denial

Too many general threads.
Nobody likes jumping into a thread when it's already at 150 posts and the conversation is dead. So nobody posts.
And if it's not a general thread then it's recycled metaconversation about /mu/ classics or whatever.
It's why /v/ made /vg/. General threads actually kill conversation unless you're the kind of aspie neet who's on 4chan 24/7.

Also the sharethreads are dead.

>>72377959
Death Grips have dropped off the map for now

When they come back the Redditors will return

Whenever the pleb/patrician thing stopped being a joke and absorbed as part of the board culture.

>>72379489
They're also intimidating because they almost never respond to requests

>>72377959
The shit community that had occupied the board since yeezus came out.

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Let's make /mu/ great again.

Go look at the board anytime and a good 2/3rds of the threads are usually dedicated to music from the 90s.

The problem is modern popular music.

>>72377959
nu-males killed the board by circlejerking mediocre hip-hop and pop music

Huh, yeah I've noticed it too.

This board is a fucking desert now.

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>tfw /mu/ is nearly as big a pleb filter as /lit/
feels quite nice desu pham

i miss old /mu/

I remember a few years ago it was more active but half the threads were tripfaggotry or other off-topic shit

Literally grimes-posting and Lauren-posting

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>>72379616
>pol is that popular

too many generals

>>72378435
/tv/ is just /pol/ getting angry at black people in tv shows though, both boards are hopeless

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>>72379670
>brings up Lauren-posting before /kpop/

>>72378427
well I guess homosexuality has historically been counterculture

Grimes

kpop general killed /mu/

>>72379616

Yeah, pleb filter..lol

>>72379749
there was a jpop general in 2010-2014 ish before they immigrated to /jp/. That was one of /mu/'s biggest periods. It's ridiculous to say that kpop killed it.

>>72377959
People filtering out all the threads they don't like

and General threads

both of these things decrease posting and thread creation

aside from a few genuinely good album like MBDTF /mu/ never used to take hip hop seriously

now it's full of people who think the latest trap rap sensation meme is legitimately good music

old /mu/ would have scoffed at these idiots. the rest of 4chan grew up over the years but /mu/ got younger

>>72379937
I think a lot of people are overstating things like this ITT because almost every thread talking about things like the XXL Freshman list and most trap rappers are extremely negative.

>>72377959
the fact that music discussion is pointless

>>72379937
>the rest of 4chan grew up over the years

This.

Popular music is mostly for kids. Music is something you grow out of.

The white youth of america is waking up, we realised the numale indie acts and ghetto thug rappers were just a ploy by cultural marxists in the music industry who wanted to make us a weak race and destroy white masculinity.

at least mu didn't get canceled

talk about a popularity killer

>>72380020
nothing about you sounds masculine or woke whatsoever. you sound like a little bitch if anything. go fall back into your estrogen-induced coma and keep your shitty opinions and lack of personality to yourself.

an aura, ie. some vague spiritual quality, has been lost. It's like when you re watch those things you used to love as a kid, you feel there's just something intangible missing. it's all less real somehow. Same thing happens with the music you loved in highschool.

>>72379482
Not an argument

We started going on /pol/ with no prior knowledge of it and found out that regardless of political views it's the most entertaining board by far.

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the only threads reaching bump limit nowadays are Grimes and KPOP

when those are your big hitters you know your in trouble

>>72381916
I've sold this place out.

>>72381916
You know it's viral marketing right? Guess who spams her album.

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>>72378290
>yfw you realized 4chan will end up destroying western culture

>>72381995
duh

This board was so much bigger in 2015,

Death Grips, Cavesponge, Vaporwave were massive memes.

>>72382186
Cavesponge was 2016.

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I dropped my trip.

I literally owned this board, when I stopped posting, the board became unpopular.

I was the life of this shitty place.

>>72382255
What was your trip?

>>72382255
same

these idiots will never know what's really happening here. even if you showed them the irrefutable evidence you know they still wouldn't believe it because it would mean they're fools in the truest sense

>>72382274
The point of dropping it was to erase my footprint from this board you dork lmao.

This idiot here >>72382186 is talking about 2015, early 2012 it's where it was at. This board was brimming with memes and OC to rival /sp/ and /tv/, the tripfags were rampant and the goofing around was incessant. But we also shared tons of good music (we actually had sharethreads before Jewt killed it because the FBI knocked at door of his cuckshed again) and there was a time and a place for everything imaginable.

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>>72382311

I haven't seen an explanation how generals are killing /mu/. It sounds like envy if you find the board dull yet see bastions of activity. You should give in a cultivate an interest in one of them to supplement your lurking.

>>72382329
Project all you want, autist. It's true. All of it.

>>72382335
Stop shilling.

>>72379681
Its the new counter culture hip place :^)
where the new anomnommoose antifa fears the pol

>>72382372
Considering they've been getting BTFO whenever they run into /pol/tards IRL, it's reasonable to fear them as an Antifa faggot.

generation z

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>>72379681
>the brainlet fears the frog
kek

>>72378124
Yup same here.

>>72378111
>>72378128
>>72378343
>>72378925
>>72379406
qft

In essence, /mu/ an indeed many 4chan boards parrot the opinions of established critics. /mu/ parrots pitchfork and pitchfork these days are selling the idea that terrible hip hop and pop music are venerable pieces of arts, despite being obviously consumerist and manufactured. This runs at odds with obscure independent music that pitchfork once pushed and the culture of /mu/ when I first joined in (2010). Now that /mu/ discusses run of the mill mainstream junk it's by definition boring and uninteresting. In conjunction you have the insane crossover between /r/blackpeopletwitter, /r/kanye, /r/hiphopheads and /r/indieheads i.e faggot ass white people pretending to be black people on the internet and really who wants to waste time talking to these posers

>>72378290
>'pop culture' turned out to be the harbinger of fascism rather than woke consumer utopia,

Nah. You were busy partaking in that garbage while the rest of society slowly had its resentment build up to this libtard stranglehold on media/entertainment/art and then explode in 2016.

> late capitalist civilisation civilisation is collapsing into impending catastrophic violence

Faggot.

>>72378913

Pretty much. Alt-right, New Right, whatever. It's the new counter-culture only because the PC SJW trash is mainstream and backed up by the media and (most of) the political establishment.

Make a good thread or gtfo.

>>72377959
Wait, how do you know it's popularity declined? Any proof?

It's the sauce of cancer that claims their own authenticity.

>>72382311
>But we also shared tons of good music
Man I was just digging through the archive earlier and saw sky and a bunch of other trips from years ago. Where do they go

U2 and hiphops

Endless obsession with mumble rap, jpop and death grips

>>72377959
Your presence here

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>>72382497
s-shut up you racist contrarian go back to >>>/pol/

>>72377959
it became stagnant.

>>72377959
AnCo
Some idiots didn't get it was a meme.

All of these posters complain while not actually improving the situation, and make the situation about complaining while complaining about it. You're all very stupid.

>>72377959
A few things.

New music isn't covered anymore by mainstream media so less people are interested in it and most people exclusively listen to old stuff.

Spotify became a big thing and everyone uses it to listen to the greatest hits of guys from the 70s and nothing else.

Mass complacency brought about by hyper convenience means very few people engage with media enough to be able to discuss it, so there aren't many people with anything to say.

Contemporary thinking revolves around and mutation of post-structuralism that centres around self-importance and preference which makes discussions toxic and pointless.

>>72382695
Yeah this place of leisure is so complacent.

>>72382686
why do you think i care about the quality of discussion on a website i do not own

>>72382710
>Comment on contemporary society is directed just at me and this isolated board
Thanks for proving the self-importance part of my post. Your inability to understand a simple statement pretty much supports everything I wrote.

>>72382728
>Thanks for proving the self-importance part of my post.
>pretty much supports everything I wrote.

>>72382686
>I wont show any way to actually improve the situation but I'll complain about people complaining and call them stupid
Wow wish I can be as smart as you anon. The board isnt going to improve by itself when every thread that isnt about Gorillaz or Kendrick gets 3-4 replies then gets archived you retarded fuck

>>72382718
Because people are indulgent in nature and like to instigate drama, or contentiously create the illusion of drama out of completely non-hostile comments.

>>72382748
My duck thread from yesterday was poplar.

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>/mu/ will die in your lifetime

Because there's no point going here. Discussions are too predictable because of what's already established as good and pleb taste.

>>72382748
>The board isnt going to improve by itself when every thread that isnt about Gorillaz or Kendrick gets 3-4 replies then gets archived you

Absolutely this.
Everytime i put thought into making a good thead it gets ignored and archived with barely any replies if i'm lucky.
The exact opposite happens when i make an obvious bait thead.

>>72382745
>This quote proves this part
>The rest supports my post in general
Learn to read, mate. Like, seriously, if you can't follow a literal statement how can you possibly discuss abstract concepts?
You're actually upsetting me by virtue of your incompetence.

>>72382822
Get creative.

no good memes
look how popular /tv/ is and how high tier their meme game is

>>72379681
It replaced /b/ as the newfag board.

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>>72382845

>>72382848
Creative threads get 4 replies and then get archived.

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>>72379937
>aside from a few genuinely good album like MBDTF /mu/ never used to take hip hop seriously

>now it's full of people who think the latest trap rap sensation meme is legitimately good music

>old /mu/ would have scoffed at these idiots. the rest of 4chan grew up over the years but /mu/ got younger

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>>72382849
this. /tv/ and /pol/ run the meme game on 4chan right now
>run the meme game on 4chan = run the meme game on the entire internet

>>72382870
t. threadlet

>>72378290
>>72379267
>>72382311
>>72382497
>>72382695
nice blog posts

>>72382877
are you seriously suggesting that if you think the majority of hip hop is garbage music the only explanation is that you're a fedora?

>>72382941
>Posts should only be one sentence and have no content !
You're the cancer.

>>72379028
>being this deluded

>>72382941
>p-people participating in discussions?! Not on my watch!

Wow I wonder why everyone hates this board

>>72377959
Music has declined in quality massively from the 00s, that's undeniable fact.

Rise of the Internet was a short term blessing but a long term curse.

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/sp/ will save /mu/ same as it saved /tv/

>>72377959
The main currency for most boards is memes. And right now most memes are political. Ergo, whichever board can more easily go off-topic into political meme wars is going to be the most popular.

/pol/ and /tv/ are currently the face of this website.

Also music just isn't interesting to follow actively any more. Taste is too centralised

>>72379037
There are good albums coming out all the time, /mu/ only talks about mumble rap, because here and everywhere else on the internet is flooded with PR shills and bots and the idiots that get shoveled them.

retarded isp bans.

>>72383051
>/pol/ and /tv/ are currently the face of this website

And also the reason why this site is going downhill, I don't mind those boards as long the users stay in theirs and not fuck up everyone's else board. It is well-known no one likes those people.

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>>72383094
>/pol/ and /tv/
>the most popular boards on 4chan
>It is well-known no one likes those people.

That's it, he'll never become president now!

>>72378780
It's really simpler than that. There's a lot of shit to occupy our time nowadays, so people don't get bored as much. so less people pick up hobbies like strummin the ol guitar. Why do that when I can watch something on Netflix?

>>72383094
>It is well-known no one likes those people.
Most people here either *are* those people or enjoy arguing with them because they have nothing better to do.

The site isn't going downhill, it just is what it is. Don't pretend to be above it.

Politicizing music and people turning to 'artists' for political opinions.

Also, hip hop meme and hip hop fans being bad communicators in general. Their discourse as to why they like something is generally non-existent or incoherent, or don't question muh feels. I'm not arguing that there isn't room for quality inside hip hop as a genre, but people are taking it much too seriously and their inability to articulate why is cancer.

This too shall pass.

Memes are the new music. Decentralised, DIY self-expression that can spread like wildfire with the youth.

Prove me wrong.

>>72383150
>no one bothers to learn an instrument anymore
>so many better things to do
>like watch netflix
>instead of writing a song

What a brave new world we live in.

>>72383222
I'm not saying it's good. It just means diligent people will strive better.

>>72383146
>>72383163
>not arguments

>>72382977
>cancer
nice YouTube comment

>>72382995
see >>72382941

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>>72383232
You fit right in

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>>72383232
It's been almost six months since she lost, get over it already.

>>72382956

that describes modern day /mu/

embrace drake and future or youre a fedora pleb

>>72377959
>What caused this board's massive decrease in popularity?
music fell off hard nigguh

>>72383051

any slightly non left opinion on mu is told constantly told to go back to pol and banned quite quickly.

this is the most PC board on 4chan, its memes are dead on arrival and people are afraid to have fun here in fear of trigger happy janitors and the nu left tumblr swine who report


they wanted this board to serve as nothing more than a hype cycle for the newest meme rap album, well congradlulations, it happened

>>72383269
this.

people unironically think this. anti-intellectualism is everyone's favourite genre. it's probably a reaction to fedora-ism, but holy shit it needs to stop.

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>>72383296
>"...what happened to the /mu/ dream?"
>"It came true... you're looking at it."

>>72383296
>>72383300
it's the war between anti-intellectuals and fedora pseuds. no self-respecting individual would browse /mu/.

>>72383333
Double dubs.

>>72383338
i respect myself, that doesnt mean i have to respect your bullshit opinion

4chan has been shit since the fappening and cuckgate

moot got out at the right time, but this place never recovered really, and i think without him the site is sort of adrift and without meaning

i know moot didn't do much be he was like the queen, he provided a sense of continuity

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>>72383383
>be he was like the queen
I be he!

>>72383417
lol wtf typo
*but he was

>>72377959
People grow out of music.
This board is the least creative and least open minded. The memes made by this board are old and expired. Its the same recycled threads ever day. Even bitching about this board is a daily thing.

>>72383296
any fucking political discussion is on equal ground for banning on a music board what are you even talking about? Threads get deleted for political discussion. How is 'go back to /pol/' any different than 'leddit' and '>>>tumblr'. why are you making yourself such a victim? I don't even hate /pol/ just shit like this drives me crazy

>>72383534
>politics
>music
except the two aren't mutually exclusive and mods deleting a jello biafra thread because politics are being discussed is beyond fucking ridiculous

>>72383233
How new are you? Serious question. You think discussing the thread topic is 'blog-posting' and aren't familiar with the cancer killing 4chan. You are definitely underage, that's obvious based on your attitude and the way kids have been conditioned recently.

You're an excellent example of why this board is shit now.

>>72383588
>>>72380647

Too many rap dickriders.

your thread

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>>72383622
huh, would you look at that. turns out there's a double standard of what /mu/ mods consider political discussion on a music board

Dave Grohl killed /mu/

>>72383588
Better than mods banning people for no reason. I got permabanned from 420chan for discussing the thread topic because the site owner's autistic girlfriend has mod powers and bans anything that's not circle jerk validation.
It could be worse.

>>72383651
not really I wouldn't call the """arguments""" happening in there to be exactly one side or the other

>>72383658
That's because you don't belong there. Stay in your containment chan.

>>72382497
this unironically

(you) this if this thread has become Gay and should be deleted

>>72383672
I'm not discussing wrestling on /asp/.

>>72383588
Only fascism can save us now, honestly. I blame the Marxist pc left for the decline of /mu/ and Internet culture in general. These people are mentally ill, they'll never be happy. They hate music, beauty and goodness. Their only gods are faggotry and victim hood. They love censorship, they are cultural Marxists who drown every discussion in self righteous shrieking. That's why we need free helicopter rides. My is dead and It was the sjws, the redditors Leftypol and lgbt who killed it

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>>72383671
let's test your theory. I just reported the thread, lets see if it gets deleted or if it goes to bump limit and gets archived. mods here shouldn't be considering anything other than the op when determining if a politics thread on a music board should be deleted or not

>>72383705
>I blame the Marxist pc left

what must it be like to think these are interchangeable terms?

>Kendrick or Kanye mutter a sentence
>OMG 10/10

/mu/ 2017

>>72383725
>These people are mentally ill, they'll never be happy.

>>72383705
how can people even argue with someone this deluded

>>72383710
alright I hope so too.

>mods here shouldn't be considering anything other than the op
what was wrong with the Jello thread then?

>>72382497
My sentiment exactly.
I only come here on occasion to /classical/, they keep a certain standard at least.

>>72383534
4chan is supposed to be counterculture, the only space left that's not dominated by anti white Marxism. Of course we are gonna be pissed when outsiders try to impose their PC victim worship bullshit on us

>>72383745
>anti white Marxism.

this is not even a thing

how long did it take you to start using these terms that don't even mean anything

>>72383739
>what was wrong with the Jello thread then?
ask the mods, I don't know. too many frogs posted I imagine

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So instead of just throwing stones why don't we think about ways to improving this board huh?


Don't be a faggot and fall for the /pol/-bait threads
There is so many charts threads, we should gather up last.fm collages, bill clinton swag, and topsters all in one.
tripfag culture needs to comeback, even if some hate them it assures some quality discussion for threads.

>>72383745
I seem the same /pol/shitters everywhere on the internet whining about sjws, muslims and libtards. You live in a fantasy /pol/ bubble if you think 4chan is your safespace.

>>72383745
Lol, you alt-right circlejerks will never even be as radical or "counterculture" as Karl Marx, try looking up what words mean before you barf them up.

>>72379088
>New Guided by Voices was great, couldnt get a thread on here to get more than 4 replies
Jeez sorry. Any other albums you're pissed off about?

>>72383745
>>72383745
The use of the word counterculture and anti white in this post makes me think you have about 3 talking points that you use in every argument. Come on.

I try my best and make new threads but still every day it's the same shit and keeping up with new music just feels like a chore.

>>72383269
this

if you don't like trap and memerap, /mu/ will descend on you to say you MUST be a neckbeard racist alt-right /pol/tard virgin

>>72383835
you MUST be a neckbeard racist alt-right /pol/tard virgin because that's never happened to me and i shit on trap and memerap constantly

>>72383803
nah you see blindly supporting the president and party in government is the most radical and counterculture thing you can do!

>>72383835
I disagree with this completely and don't understand how you think this.

>>72383846
we're living in the upsidedown

>>72377959
>decrease in popularity

how do you know btw?

Tensions are so goddamn high on /mu/

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used to spend the whole day on here and have an absolute ball.
those days were great.
the clampdown on the feels threads was when the board went to shit, boys. we needed those threads.

>>72383970
this, I know this 4chan we're talking about, but it seems so hateful lately, even for /mu/ standards

>>72384100
people in europe went crazy and had a world war. twice. americans are experiencing this phenomenon now. what's coming in a few years ain't going to be lollipops and rainbows, that's for sure

the depression got worse

>>72377959
2 things
1. Janitors banning anyone for any excuse they can find. This is the only place a lot of these people will ever feel any power or control over another person in their life, so they end up going a little overboard with it.
2. There is no good western music to talk about. People keep attributing the decline in music on the political right, but they seem to forget western music has been on the decline for probably a decade or more. Also, most music is not political so this theory is not accurate.

>>72383970
It's like Weimar Germany just everyone is more autistic this time around. Sometimes I get this sinking feeling in my stomach, you know this can end in violence. And it's all blind resentment, people lining behind fascism in hope of spiting muh sjw, that hateful stranger from milo™videos. A desire to bash people's heads in and feel self righteous about it. You can tell some people relish it.

>>72384262

> western music has been on the decline for probably a decade or more.

ok grandpa. can you explain why you think that?

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>>72383710
>This thread has been pruned or deleted

kpop

>>72382255
No one liked you anyway montie

>>72382255
FIFH?

>>72378111
Pretty sure that would make the board more popular

music was a mistake

>>72378124
Yes, but you coincidently just happened to come across this thread right?

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>>72378290

The fact that threads like this generate more discussion then any music threads.

>>72385222
Damn.

>>72379386
came here to post exactly this. memerap especially.
I used to come and loved being here almost every day, now I check it maybe 3 times a month

>>72385237
It's true

It was clearly the lack of Ryanposting, his alluring face was very important to the board's success.

>>72385250
Dammit, now I'm remembering Aaron. Kinda miss him, to be quite honest.
>>72385222
/thread

>>72382497

ive just returned here after 2011-12

holy shit do people take pitchfork seriously now?:

old user here (2009-2012 were my jam).
this board is just really fucking boring now. when I was 15 and AnCo and Radiohead blew my mind this place was great, and sharethreads were like a gift from heaven.
a handful of things really ruined this board. does anyone here even remember when Floral Shoppe dropped? Vaporwave was just a cheeky joke for us. Then kids here started taking it seriously, and it's 2017 and I still fucking see it being discussed. It's the same with Lil' B (although he's not popular anymore) and all the meme-rap that followed. It was a fucking joke. We liked rock and jazz and metal and electronic, but things like meme-rap and vaporwave were just a joke.
Pretty much this boards taste in music is a clear case of Poe's Law.

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We need to bring back more metal

>>72378111
maybe not a decline in popularity, but these things contributed to the decline of the board in general

you should add waifufags to that

>>72377959
Hip hop grabbing all the mainstream limelight, while all other genres coming to a standstill; waifufags, etc..

Generally people's tendency to focus on aesthetics/aestheticising music, while being self-indulgent and never striving to articulate why something appeals to them. Basically aestheticising anti-intellectualism as a response to fedora pseuds.

Ironically, these things probably increased /mu/'s popularity by making it more accessible, but it has certainly decreased in quality. I'm open to seeing evidence of its decreased popularity though.

>>72385859
>I'm open to seeing evidence of its decreased popularity though.

Seriously, is this just willful denial?

How about the fact that this thread has been up for 13 hours, STILL hasn't reached the bump limit, and only has 129 posters. Five years ago threads fell off the board if they went 15 minutes without a reply.

These days /mu/ has maybe 250 - 300 dedicated daily posters, and that's being generous. It's fucking dead.

Plus, if you actually look at the threads 200-300+ (aka the generals) they often have less than 50 posters in them. That may be why same people in this thread are fooled into thinking /mu/ is still active.

I think this thread actually has the highest poster ticker out of all the threads currently on the catalog.

>>72386337
maybe it's just a bit of a boring thread but with just enough bait posted to keep it alive
idk i'm no expert on usage stats

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>>72386415
>I think this thread actually has the highest poster ticker out of all the threads currently on the catalog.
>>72360621

>>72377959
Not being able to talk about music without being an asshole or an edgelord.

>>72378111
>fantano

WHO THE FUCK IS FANTANO AND WHAT'S HIS REALTION WITH /MU/

NOT EVEN TROLLING

the kpop general is the best part of /mu/ though

>>72386464

And that thread has been up for over 30 hours and is just now reaching the bump limit. Holy shit lol

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>>72386523
dude I like to bait as much as the next guy but I'll find you and full on slap you in your berries if you ever say that here again. they've stolen too many sweet gets to ever be forgiven

>>72386514
some fag that does video reviews of albums, /mu/ may or may not agree with his scores. Also memes and stuff and he's really ironic and postmodern XD

2010-2012 /mu/ was probably the best board in 4chan history imo

you can still see some remnants of it floating around even now, i mean pleb is nearly universally said across the internet. this era of /mu/ single-handedly helped me create a music taste for myself.

what's funny is that, as often as people scapegoat reddit on this shithole, current /mu/ is ACTUALLY what a board looks like when reddit moves in. it gets slow, boring, safe, and predictable. (good) sharethreads went away, tripfag nonsense went away, and everyone seems to have just given in to the manufactured mixtape hype cycle the blogs slog everyone through every other week.

>>72377959
I, like many others, showed up during a short period right before the place became shitpost general.
I branched out my music taste a good bit thanks to recs here, but now I never come around because this place is nothing but shitposts and /pol/

it was definitely better before all the shill threads started

imo it's not that bad, there's a lot more variety in music discussion than /mu/ in its "heyday" of 2008~2011. The biggest problem is all that variety is splintered into generals

>>72386504
/mu/ has always been like that

>>72383745
If we're the only white space, why do we present ourselves as the least desirable location on the internet?

>tfw you'll never get the era of 4chan when /sp/ and /mu/ were the hegemonic boards back

truly the best of times. the bantz were never better.

since 2009 i only came to /mu/ for sharethreads. at least things like Kpop generals can act as quarantines for the type of people that post in them.

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Like with all things, liberalism took over and became the premier talking point in every discussion. It's no longer about the quality of the music, but the political views of the musician. Fantano giving TPaB a 10 marked this turning point. Unfortunately there is no going back from this.

>>72378925

/tv/ hasn't been good since the Lost finale.

>>72386580
i don't understand why do you guys care so much about the kpop general, it's not like they're getting out of their way to bother you, they actually rarely get out of their containment thread
just live and let live dude

>>72378290

can't take my fedora quickly enough

>>72386702
/mu/ mods should be nuking that shit on sight with extreme prejudice. same with waifu threads and guitar generals, those threads aren't about music and there's no music being discussed at all in most cases. it's not about them being good boys in their quarantine thread, the fact that mods let them have a quarantine thread at all indicates the quality of discourse being encouraged here.

delete those threads and permaban those retarded shits, they'll give up and leave forever eventually. you only tolerate malignant cancer if you want it to kill you eventually

>>72386695
gotta disagree with you here, i think we can trace the reason for this directly to big capital. if you think about it, i would say around 2013-2014 is when corporations really took complete hold over internet culture in terms of what music/film/etc was fashionable at the time. as a result of this, /mu/, a place which formerly at least seemed to be a taste creator, slowly gave in to the same blog-hyped mixtapes everyone else is instructed to like and eventually the sharing community here died. what we're left with is a husk of a board with the same 200-300 people mindlessly chatting about playboi carti or something. the identity politics are only relevant because marketers have successfully determined that it sells, so of course it's all over one of the most corporate industries today

>>72377959
crazy that this thread is here because I browsed today for the first time in almost 3 years. I stay on /sp/ nowadays since music rec and actual music discussion seems to never happen anymore

>>72377959
Like >>72386504 said, everyone is just an elitist asshole on here. Everything's GOTTA be obscure, completely unheard of, or else you have atrocious taste and you should leave this board. Also you're underage so go back to listening to (insert "entry-level" album here, whatever the fuck that means)

Like seriously, people on here have forgotten what being honest is like. Just because 95% of /mu/ doesn't like deadmau5 or whatever doesn't mean you shouldn't like it. I say fuck em, I only still come here because of sharethreads, and even those are really underwhelming nowadays.

end blog post

>>72386889
no no no, you're dead wrong. the board isn't elitist ENOUGH. when /mu/ was good, it was because of the (ironic, of course) elitist banter and then the actually interesting music finds everyone got out of pretending to be an elitist.

i mean ffs the fake elitism is what gave us "pleb" in 4chan culture

I stopped posting because of the generally shitty attitudes of people posting here. you gotta sift through the racism and name calling and shitposting to find any music discussion. also some of the fun thread ideas people had were cool. but i haven't seen anything like that in a while

>>72386889
what killed /mu/ is this exact (and frankly, pretty reddit) milquetoast attitude.

literally when has 4chan ever not been about pretending to be an elitist asshole

>>72386959
eh, i don't know what i ever expected though. i guess 4chan is 4chan

archive this thread and read it and you'll see: the userbase are stupid now

>idiorts obsessed with being intelligent

>>72386870
>i would say around 2013-2014 is when corporations really took complete hold over internet culture in terms of what music/film/etc was fashionable at the time

this is really concerning for me
Hillary Clinton literally had (or still has)a shilling force that created and upvoted memes on reddit and I doubt she was the first one to do this

Humans are social animals, if a group of people likes something, you subconsciously start liking it too. Even tho /mu/ is contrarian when compared to the general society, we still find comfort on this board when we find individuals with similiar taste.

The problem is that internet is really easy to manipulate. If you hire 10 people for a week to push a certain trend on imageboard, soon some normal posters will pick it up and it's going to snowball to the whole board.

I'm not sure how many recent albums liked by /mu/ where pushed that way.
And trying to sell you music isn't really important, you can literally change a person's worldview and political stance just by influencing the community he identifies with

>>72387066

What did he mean by this

>>72377959
/tv/ became the go to board for shitposting, memes, and zero moderation.

If you go to any other music fan community nobody ever talks about memerap or synthpop like ther necause these genres are absolute crap.

>literally anything is released
>10's of threads an hour calling it shit

>>72386602
>2010-2012 /mu/
Absolutetly disgusting. Shitty pop music and gorillions of tripfags everywhere.

>>72387113
although it's not happening on /mu/, it's painfully obvious imo that the vast majority of current internet hype is manufactured, particularly if you're a hip hop fan. there'll always be artists like kendrick who will inevitably get attention, but i just cannot come up with a reason that there is an entire fanbase surrounding someone as uninteresting as like, playboi carti that doesn't involve corporate meddling. even if it's not happening here directly, the corporate homogenization of internet forum taste has already killed this place

>>72377959
when did Hyde become so ubiquitous?

>>72378643
Yeah, strange times we live in.

>>72387185
/thread

Repetitiveness. Decided to browse /mu/ now once in a full moon, people always talking about the same artists/albums.

>>72378111
Unironically this, it started with Kanye back in 2010. /mu/ is a shitty mainstream music board now. Might as well be the Rolling Stone forums.

>>72387685
I disagree we need more threads about Grimes Radiohead Death Grips and Kanye because the current 50 threads on them do not cover every possible topic of discussion.

>>72387724
Also General threads are cancer.

>>72387724
>tfw that cozy /mu/ before Plastic Beach and MBDTF will never come back
Well at least it's not /tripfags/ anymore but still.

>>72377959

death grips

>>72383745
>the only space left that's not dominated by anti white Marxism

this is what /pol/ actually believes

>>72386972
This. As long as you can actually back it up, the elitist attitude is what makes places like this special.

Better pretentious semi-ironic shitposters than fully sincere low IQ normalfags shitting the place up.

This decline has already happened to all 4chan boards though. Paygated or private communities like SA are the only places able to resist the tide.

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>>72378290

>>72377959
Probably because everyone goes on tumblr and only listens to pc music that talks about being oppressed

sjw's killed this board

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>>72377959
"Music discussion" is all reduced to lists and numbers with no elaboration. It's pure autism.

>>72378290
Was this post made by a script?

>>72377959
if you come here for anything other than shitposts and waifus you're doing it wrong

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It's less a music board and more a "music deemed acceptable to discuss" board, which is pretty limited in scope

If there has been a decrease im gonna bet it is because of /pol/ and politics, not that they're putting people off on here but because they're a bigger and more pressing distraction than music and yeah I'm projecting

>>72388167
Did you just realize 4chan is autist central?

>>72388558
But they are, theyre easily the worst thing to come out of 4chan. Just look at all these kids like richard spencer, making a living walking around spouting memes irl. Everything is about race now, nobody lives their life anymore.

>>72388558
>If there has been a decrease
>If

Again, this is not even a debate. This board is irrelevant now. Probably because 4chan's userbase got older, and bands and music scenes are mostly for teens.

>>72388657
It's always been partly about race here in the US, just was more low-key in the mainstream for a stretch. There was money flowing more casually for the middle class/there were more respectable labor jobs, was a healthier economy and multiculturalism is a byproduct of a healthier economy, led to identity politics, and now that it's a massive pain in every ass to get anywhere financially secure and whitebois see affirmative action fucking them and want a proper piece of that identity pie, it's understandable