/classical/

Petzold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSAGwa49MM

What's your go-to rainy day music? Mine's Prokofiev's 2nd piano concerto

The only Christmas song I enjoy is Carol of the Bells.

It's also the only classical song I enjoy.

ECM?

>>72267199
Kashkashian

>>72266957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbUqKvpmPfU

Who has the best Beethoven 7 and why is it Furtwangler?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CNrGqHKoa8

r8 my pseudo-4part harmony that me and my girlfriend wrote, /classical/

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0wr5Dwp71T7

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Now that Youtube has full albums uploaded at Opus 160kb/s, it's super easy to find almost anything.

Here's what I do now:

>Follow a reviewer or seek out reviews on Amazon or somewhere for an album you're interested in

>Search Youtube for the artist, filter by Channel, select the one that says X - Topic

>Click Albums

>Bam, you've got CDs and full fucking boxsets arranged in playlists automatically

I don't even know why people bother with Spotify or radio anymore. It's especially great if you're browsing different performances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQdudICa-88&list=PLZj4RadToGJgPak30wUlXO7ESHWRljl7X

hey what do u guys Think of Gorecki's 3rd
I know it's a meme and it's really bad but something about those descending melodies at the end are sort of strange to me, has this lulling sense of calm with something horrible present, like a scene from a soap opera where Everything is covered in cobwebs and there's morning dew in the cobwebs and there's this mellow orange light over Everything and it's all gross and strange while still being comforting in some way. I feel like it has the emotional range of a soap opera, and doesn't express actual angst or sorrow like let's say a bartok string Quartet. But i Think there's something enticing in how it's so tame and eventless while still trying to be emotional and sorrowful, creates this gross sticky aura about it. What do yu guys Think

Wagner > Mahler > Shostakovich

>>72266904
this has been established already

>>72267826
Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District > Parsifal

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Heifetz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFn6anuqH0&list=PLgk7gcWmgsGcia6ocqexkAy98gvWV9SCu&index=4

>>72267650
I give it 5 out of 10, try changing the harmonic rhythm; perhaps with some anticipations, suspensions etc. You just dont want it to be clunky and awkward, make the listener want the chords.

Mahleranon are you here?
How is Oskar Fried's Mahler? Especially in comparison to Mahler's other groupies like Walter and Mengelberg?

>>72267644
He's definitely the best in that particular interpretive approach

>>72267724
My only problem with the auto-generated Youtube stuff is that a lot of it is incorrectly tagged/organized. I suppose this is to be expected with auto-generation, but it can still be kind of annoying.

But, yes, there's a surprising amount of stuff on Youtube, even some rarer recordings which I am surprised are on there at all.

>>72269736
He's interesting in the sense that he and the audio engineers of his time managed the feat of a full acoustical recording of Mahler's 2nd, but that's mostly it.

The only Fried I've listened to have been acoustic recordings, so I've always been a bit ambivalent about them, as they're only barely musical. I can tolerate acoustic recordings when it's a solo piano or a violin, but a full orchestra is rarely done justice, and the recording conditions themselves were often poor and very cramped. I remember reading an article regarding Walter's first time recording in the early 1900s, and he said it was one of the most unpleasant experiences he had.

I know there's a few non-acoustic recordings of Fried, but I haven't heard them. iirc Arbiter issued some of his stuff from the late 1930s, right before he died.

>>72269981
Oh, right, I did hear his Beethoven 9th, which was a very early electric recording.

Unfortunately I've only heard it in a pretty bad transfer, and didn't find it particularly remarkable aside from the astonishingly well sung finale.

>>72266957
>>72267758
>>72267826
>>72268507
>>72269736
>>72269981
Kill yourselves.

>>72267650
Score it for organ next time ; it sounds better in MIDI. Also post the score.

>>72270130
:(

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>>72270130

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1rySYowS0en

cool thanks

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>>72270130
>not enjoying prokofiev
How does it feel being a pleb

>>72270628
Spread it on two staves desu

>>72270628
Parallel fifth on m.1

Parallel octave between m.1,2 and m.2

Parallel octave on m.2

Parallel octave on m.4

Hidden fifth between m.5,2 and m.6

Hidden fifth on m.6

Parallel fifth between m.6,2 and m.7

Parallel fifth on m.8,1.

Parallel fifth between m.8,2 and m.9

Parallel fifth between m.10,2 and m.11

Parallel fifth on m.11

Parallel octaves on m.13.

Parallel octaves on m.14 and parallel fifth between m.14,2 and m.15

Two (2) parallel fifths between m.15,4 and m.16.

>>72271260

too lazy

>>72271404
Yes i KNOW about the parallel movement....which is why I said "pseudo" 4 part. The problem is its supposed to be the chorus of a metal song I'm working on and the chorus is a 3 chord progression (Em, CM, DM) so I had to fudge things to try and make it fit.

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>>72271474
>the chorus of a metal song I'm working on and the chorus is a 3 chord progression (Em, CM, DM)
Kill yourself and never return here again

>>72267650
>me and my girlfriend
*My girlfriend and I

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>>72271474
>the chorus of a metal song I'm working on and the chorus is a 3 chord progression (Em, CM, DM)

>>72271529
>>72271741

post the original music you're working on

>>72271782
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1xMBtFbzoNT

New Complexity piece im working on. Suck my dick faggot

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>>72271870
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1xMBtFbzoNT

that sounds like shit bruv

>>72271870
Utter garbage.

>>72271782
Lil' minuet in D

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1AnPdm40VYw

>>72271925
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1AnPdm40VYw

that's cute. did you write the midi and then use a website to convert with a soundfont or?

>>72271585
Classical music really brings out the conceited morons doesn't it. The once that think listening to Beethoven makes them an expert on everything else. There's absolutely nothing grammatically wrong with the construction "me and my..."

>>72271925
>>72271909
You just don't get New Complexity.

>>72266502
Damn I bet he had an orgy afterwards

>>72271961
Its gramatically incorrect. You wouldn't say "r8 my pseudo-4part harmony that me wrote, /classical/"

Here's another odd thingy I notated the other day. Roast me, /classical/

http://vocaroo.com/i/s11VBq2dB82l

>>72272054
This sound like TV Commercial music or gay anime music

>>72272054
It's not really good tbf famalam

>>72271960
>that's cute
thanks

>did you write the midi and then use a website to convert with a soundfont or?
use finale/an alternative

>>72271870
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1xMBtFbzoNT
Yo my four year old niece can do that too. If you're going for a shitty interpretation of Ligeti you nailed it. Maybe post something when you learn how to use a fucking tone matrix

>>72272437
Thanks for the (You) lad. I just smashed my piano keys

>>72272469
You should probably sell your piano on ebay and kill yourself while your at it

>>72272499
>getting this upset over a 4chan post
nice dubs btw

>>72267199
>ECM
would be a good label if not for all the jazz and world "music" on it

>>72272615

>you
>knowing what a ii - V is

Jass music is the worst meme of 20th century music.
>hurr let's appropriate classical instrumentation and use it make shitty popular music for denegerate urbans
>but i don't know how to play music cuz they keeping me down
>it's okay just bash around like a primate and people will hail it as "art" because it's "improvisational"

Mahler is everything Wagner wishes he could be.

>>72272717
they both suck

>>72272710
>it's ok just bash around lake a primate and people will hail it as "art" because it's improvisational

What man, you don't value your self worth in how many Bird licks you know

>>72272710
ClASSical music is the worst meme of all time
>hurr let's appropriate folk instrumentation and use it to make shitty popular music for degenerate academics
>but i know how to play music cuz i went to university
>it's okay just bash around random keys like a primate and people will hail it as an "artistic fugue" because it's "academic"

>>72272710
>>>/pol/

>>72272845
>let's appropriate folk instrumentation
2/10 for effort.

>>72271404
>Parallel fifth
yeah let's pretend we're in the 18th century

>>72270628
add more dissonances and you'll sound like Messiaen

>>72272717
If that was so he wouldn't have written only operas

Post a timestamped picture of your musicology degree along with at least ten (10) compositions that you've authored. Otherwise, you do not have the sufficient credentials to discuss erudite music.

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Are Takács overrated?

>>72274366
That cover gave me cancer, looks like something out of a cheesy metal band album.

>>72274066
You first

>>72271782
Not them but here's a fugue I'm working on:
https://clyp.it/prcgzbcl

Doing something a bit different this time : second exposition is an inversion of the first theme. Not sure if I like it or not. Usually I intuitively write the second exposition, as a more organic permutation of the theme.

>>72274066
>musicology
>composing
musicology composers are somewhat rare. Composers tend to study composition, musicologists tend to study musicology. Occasionally you have ethnomusicologist composers like Bartok or Kodaly, or Psathas today, who study folk music and notate it out. The stereotype is that musicologists are very dry and scientific and don't have a creative bone in their body, whereas composers tend to be all creativity and 'just enough science to get by'

>>72274366
No they aren't

What are some good recordings without ridiculous dynamic range? I'm sick of fumbling with my volume knob and getting my ears blown off in the car

>>72276749
how long does it take to learn enough theory to be a composer?

>>72277443
a day
what you really do is learning other composer's pieces, not some abstract theories

>>72277443
Some composers don't know any theory at all. I would say to be recognized as a composer, you need to be able to write scores for classical performers without any help from an orchestrator, and have at least a basic understanding of music theory - chords, keys, instrument limits and capabilities.
You never really stop learning as a composer, there's always something you don't know, or an area you haven't discovered yet. I would say a 3 year music degree at a college or university would give you a good grounding for being a composer. I would only recommend that if you already write a lot of music. You don't really learn to be a composer, you learn to be a better composer. Being a composer is either something you are or aren't.

>>72277436
you're in the wrong genre

try some Phase 4 Decca recordings, i guess. they have very squashed dynamics

>>72277436
kys fucking pleb

>>72277436
Compression has killed music, and you let it.
>>72277694
Take this advice.

>>72277436
Get out of this general

>>72277436
Holy christ you normie fucking faggot
The loudness wars are cancer

>>72277634
I don't want very squashed, just not extreme.

>>72277694
>>72277725
>>72277748
>>72277758
Thanks

>>72277785
Yeah sure

Go back to your brickwalled pop music libcuck

>>72277436
>>72277785
In all seriousness, just put on your local FM radio classical station as there will be some dynamic range compression applied

>>72277436
just listen to baroque music

>Nic Cage spotted at Vienna State Opera's Parsifal
wew

wwwwwsdc

>bloody nose

link music for this predicament

>>72267650
>Hey let me passively-aggressively tell you about my girlfriend!

>>72278280
>was in Lords of War
>goes to anti-war opera
Pottery.

>>72280160
It's just business.

>>72279779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoC21I9YDz8

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I'm having a hard time finding a full complete recording of Satie's Vexations to download, can anyone here help me out?

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>>72280839
Vexations is a single page work, just because Satie added a comment about playing it hundreds of times, that doesn't mean you should. A few overly literal comedians doesn't make it HIP.

This is a good recording and has a lot of other similar works.
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3210925

Or this one which has an interesting work by Hindemith for the trautonium, an early electronic instrument. https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4452753

>>72280102
autism

>>72280978
I'm completely aware of everything regarding this piece, and I disagree with the purpose not being to play it as instructed.
Either way, I want a full 840 cycle recording.
I already have that Van Veen collection; he actually did a full vexations recording but I cannot find a download link anywhere.

>>72281118
Hah, you do sound ridiculous, good luck beating your head on the wall then I guess.

>>72281118

It's amazing how well French trolling works.

Only truly retarded faggots need 840 repetitions to get the "point". It's the same as mediation, you can either do it, or deck out in scented candles, yoga mats and white noise machines.

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Why is this guy so underrated?

>>72281454
Vespro della Beata Vergine > Mass in B minor

classical music for tfw she has a bf

>>72281654

https://youtu.be/ReLJZDF4boI

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>>72281454
The guy practically invented the baroque in music and he's underrated? By who.

La Venexiana's recordings of his madrigals are beautiful.

>>72281654
Monteverdi's 8th book of madrigals 'of war and love'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdnUHCpomQ

>>72281779
>The guy practically invented the baroque in music and he's underrated? By who.
anyone who thinks Mozart, Bach, Beethoven are better.

>>72281776
>have to skip to a minute in for the music to start
sick of this meme

>>72281779
why such a kitchy recording tho? this one is at least half decent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctdRIJTFUZw

>>72281654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DWjI1uLSzw

>>72281454
what are some must listen records of his works?

>>72267644
Truely, Furwanlger and Klemperer somehow managed to take Beethoven and Bruckner into their souls and ride them like no other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuw7DedGL_c

>>72282001
His vespers (alessandrini), L'Orfeo, L'incoronazione di poppea.

>>72281427
Is this /classical/ or is this /pseudo-intellectual manlets pretend they understand the 'point' of music/?
Mind spelling out for me what the 'point' is exactly, and how it couldn't possibly be worth listening to in full? Most historians view it as significant BECAUSE of it's length; it wasn't even recorded a single time until Cage interpreted it literally.
French trolling? Shut the fuck up. You understand nothing about boundary pushing art.

>>72282290

(((historians)))

[[[Cage]]]

lol, you're the kind of dumb fuck who watches Warhols Empire for the "experience".

All of these meme length art pieces are just to drain away your cognitive abilities so you start seeing deepest meaning in every insignificant detail. Put a thirsty fool in the desert and they'll start seeing the most beautiful jewels and rubies in a couple hours.

The piece is easy as fuck, go play it 840 times if the experience is that important. "Boundary pushing" , roflmao.

>>72282290
>You understand nothing about boundary pushing art.
>John Cage
>2017

Please tell us, what is this boundary pushing art.

Holy fuck guys I just asked if anyone had a classical recording, is this not /classical/?

>>72282622
HAHAHA ALL HISTORIANS ARE JEWISH SO THEIR OPINIONS DON'T MATTER HAHAHHA

>>72282626
>>72282622
I honestly don't understand how a piece written in the 1890's has you writhing on the floor and foaming from the mouth. Do you exclusively listen to Vivaldi? Please stop responding to me unless you have a full recording of Vexations.

>>72282622

Digits don't lie, I used to geek out on this stuff, super long slowed down movies, repetitive sounds, night long light shows. After awhile the ridiculousness of it sets in, it's not art, unless art means a complete abandonment of intellect or spirituality. It's really a lot closer to a cat staring at a laser or staring out of a car window all day. It's reductive.

It's funny that you can embrace everything from gregorian chants to Shostakovich, but if you don't accept the latest greatest avant-garde academic promoted tripe, oh you simpleton art hating fiend!

>>72282730
thanks for using a trip so I can filter you

>>72282730
Er, you're the one blowing off steam with your artschool knowledge
>>72282290
and then u mad cause ppl here educate u.
>>72282622

Just say thank you and be on your way

>>72282290
You definitely seem to want to fit in with the 'pseudo-intellectual manlets'. There's nothing boundary pushing about that work even if it had been Satie's intention to play it for so long. You demean Satie for focusing on such a trite little piece and constructing a ridiculous historical significance over it.

>>72282622
>(((historians)))
Truly the most worthless field. Non-scientific academia and the liberal arts are a fucking joke. The fact that we still offer non-STEM degrees at universities and aren't a nation of majority vocational schooling is embarrassing.

>>72282730
>I honestly don't understand how a piece written in the 1890's has you writhing on the floor and foaming from the mouth.

... What do you think listening to something repeat for 18 hours is supposed to do?

>>72282960
All I did was ask for a recording and I got called a retarded faggot, but ok.
This is the dumbest conversation I've ever had so I'm going to stop now.

>>72282290
>>72282730
>>72282972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxh-o9ENW5o

Manlets are more sub-human than _______

>>72282991
What is listening to anything for any amount of time supposed to do? hur durr

>>72282972

True historical study is great, but it requires a deep dive into psychology, context and nuance as well as seeking first hand reports and reading between the lines.

Problem is that takes so long some WE WUZ KANGZ generalizing fool has got tenure and is appearing in their 12th documentary by the time you master any field.

The whole society is geared towards convenience, not values.

>>72282290
>Is this /classical/ or is this /pseudo-intellectual manlets pretend they understand the 'point' of music/?
This is /classical/, which is why you should leave. You clearly seem to be in the "pseudo-intellectual manlets [who] pretend they understand the 'point' of music" camp.

You want full vexations, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gImDzmNuEDA
Have a fun 10 hours

>>72283103
Ban liberals from all arts and humanities

Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=106YIB29eAw

>>72283528
Sped up shitty performance, I wanted a high quality download.

Holy fuck I'm getting annoyed at this name-calling, I just wanted a fucking download, not to get ripped into for wanting to hear a recording of classical music on /classical/.
Fuck me for liking the music, i guess?

>>72283777
Fuck you for being a refugee to this general, a pseudo-intellectual libuck retard, having shit taste, and probably being a manlet nu-male as well.

>>72283819
That's a lot of assumptions buddy. Mind pointing out how anything I said makes me a pseudo-intellectual, besides you obviously being triggered that I called you one?

>>72283777
>>72283882
>/daily/ and /classical/ meet
>autism ensues
Satie sucks btw

>>72281654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwg_VtrTdg

>tfw have constipation
music for this feel?

>>72283973
I'm actually just one individual, and I've been posting here as anon for years.

>>72284015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P0IQql0FXw

>>72284042
and every time you get called-out as a pseudo-intellectual nu-male shit, got it

>>72274366

I'd say that album is, it's hailed as perfect but I didn't like it at all, so abusive. I preferred their Rosamunde.

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http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/FurtLvB9recap.mp3

>>72267724

>Opus 160kb/s

Redpill me on this, why is this so significant?

>>72284269
Not him, but it's a new(er) codec which handles low-latency extremely well. It's pretty much going to be the new audio codec for the web since it's ideal for streaming and whatnot. The compression algorithm is impressive and it seems to perform better than vorbis and lame.

>>72282622
>>72282626
>>72282960
>>72283528
typical shit-tier classicucks who can't into modern/contemporary music

in all seriousness can we agree that Britain is by far the best country for contemporary classical music?

Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9911k7Wrw4

>>72284972
Pointing out a minor piece isn't particularly special is equivalent of hating all modern and contemporary classical? Could you please go away and take your stupid tripfag friends with you.

>>72284972
yeah and i bet you think jazz music is good too

>>72285009
no

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Any recommendations for a noob looking to get into classical? Will listen to anything. Basically looking for the /mu/core of classical

>>72285701
Then what is?

>>72286084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBLOQ0Cpnk4

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>>72281654
>tfw he has a gf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQ4HDsUB2c

>>72286445
Pics?

>>72286700
You want pics of a dude?

>>72286714
Post implied a female

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>>72286758

Krenek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_TYiJlNb6M

Erlebach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLmyzeIWWYs

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>>72284269

To make a long story short, it's sort of the new MP3. It was originally made for VOIP applications, but its extraordinary compression capabilities make it a sort of swiss army knife codec.

Pic related, sorta. I'm one of those assholes who can pick between 320kbps MP3 and FLAC, I have to admit it's much harder with OPUS at a far lower bitrate. OPUS 160kbps might be the 'lossy' lossless. It's excellent.

>>72283777
Satie barely counts as classical

If Kenny G is called smooth-jazz, Satie should be called smooth-classical. AKA digestible for blebs.

Schieferdecker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fa7clDo1hs

>>72277436
lmao

Is John Browne the best English composer between Dunstable and Byrd?

>>72289238
That's pretty neat. I may switch over to YouTube for most of my streaming needs since Spotify is fucking horrid.

>>72284972
>>72285009
>likes Satie
>likes British "music"
pottery

Torelli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMif-LPgs8g

>>72289300

What is Cage then?

Brahms' Sextets are truly underrated.

>>72290136
To be fair, he did say "Contemporary" which is entirely different from fellating the English pastoralists as the finest composers ever.

Here's the best Victorian verse-anthem (now that you've got me thinking about English composers). Top-tier mush:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=389leQkiGgk

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>>72267724

Not everything is Opus, some of it was encoded before the changeover. Most of it is though.

To make sure you're getting the best quality, make sure it says x/251 in the "stats for nerds" display. The first number is the video stream which is irrelevant here.

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>>72290193
>that interpretation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcYCPwmen4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1OKajY0yw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOICPqnGviU

>>72289238
Huh. I compared spectograms of 320CBR Lame and 160VBR Opus, and, weirdly enough, Opus seems to have far less compression artifacts, but at almost 2/5ths the size. It's exactly as you say.

Compression black magic, I guess. Me and my friends would always use Opus in Ventrilo because the quality was ao obviously superior. Never really thought of utilizing the codec on music, but I might now, especially with my disc space starting to get restricted.

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>>72292206

>It's exactly as you say.

>>72290583

Petzold

>>72267650
legitimately the worst thing I've listened to in months

>>72267650
Try killing yourself and reincarnate into a better composer. Shouldn't be difficult in your case.

>>72292206
What is Ventrilo?

>>72278280
>shitty actor goes to shitty opera by shitty composer
wow

>tfw come home after a long day of work and PBS is playing a Mozart opera

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahdnysWIKmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2GjWzrxAHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvN9dcmkO98

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What do you guys think of Dvorak?

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>>72295286
Underrated desu

>>72295286
Absolutely great when he was on, but I find him to be a lot more variable than some of the other composers of his time.

>>72281454
He invented opera. I wouldn't say he is underrated.

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>>72282730
>getting this triggered by antisemitism on 4chan

>>72285009
America

>>72294966
Which one?

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>>72295982
Jacopo Peri did. Monteverdi popularized it.

>>72290583
Cage is simply non-music

>>72296186
Don Giovanni

>>72294966
>watching tv
>watching (((Progressive Broadcasting Station))) of all things

kys degenerate

>>72284972
>satie
>contemporary
>modern
He was considered backwards as fuck at the time. Compare his piano music to Debussy or Ravel, or even Bach's keyboard works from 200 years earlier.

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Please recommend me some good baroque works for (not necessarily exclusively) organ or French horn.

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>>72297503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpowfWio3mY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCP7xHgQDrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV7hFjn-Rpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e_AUC9QwDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcIQNZEG__o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R24hEh5c5g

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Saw Bernard O Hanlon recommend this today...

https://www.amazon.com/Schumann-Symphony-Bruckner-Beethoven-Coriolan/dp/B000063X2J/

...live recording, only his review, kinda rare...these are my usual steps when there's tagging problems like another anon saw.

>Search Furtwangler Haydn 88, a bunch of his studio recordings with the Berliners show up, check the album, add Vienna to filter them out.

>Filter by HD, these youtube autogenerated things are always HD

>Scroll down and see a track from the album, in a generic "Various Artists - Topic" channel...Well that's not helpful

>Open the video, open the description, see youtube lists the album as "Schumann, Bruckner, Haydn & Beethoven: Orchestral Works"

>Paste that in the search

>Bam.

This is why I like it so much, it's quite easy to filter down to what you're looking for quickly if you know what to do and there's no clunky UI like with spotify. The above took less than a minute. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9siQf79CCk&list=PLAwY71O_vuwQsKqHe-8oBd3pmdUqyqH4M

>>72298488
Yeah, that usually works. I do that as well myself. Though sometimes they are unfortunately not sorted into an entire playlist, so it can be difficult if you want to, say, listen to an opera that isn't bundled together in an album/playlist on Youtube.

>>72298488
OPUS
P
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best codec

>>72298488

Impressive. Very nice.

>classical music """"listener""""
>hates on jazz
>doesn't have a single grasp of music theory and resorts to projections and ad hominem whenever you ask him to explain his opinion
purest pottery

Any emotional music similar to claire de lune or Pavane pour une infante defunte?

>>72295286
yes extra notes in the 7th symphony

>>72299693
Brahms op 118 no 2

>>72299709
It's alright but doesn't get the emotions over like Debussy and Ravel do.

>>72299845
It's easier to feel the emotional content when you play it, more so than Clair de lune and Pavane I would say. That final appoggiatura in the A section kills me every time.

>>72299698
What do you mean by this?

>>72300041
Dvorak wrote a cool line at the very end of the symphony but he only gave it to woodwinds and 2nd violins which means it's getting buried by fortissimo long notes by everyone else. Many conductors choose to double the line in horns/trumpets so you can actually hear it.

Without: (37:29)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIoUy6fEGvE

With: (35:38)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHnBrYtoICg

With trumpets doubled at the octave: (38:26)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJQYlt-m8Zo

[youtube]https://youtu.be/TK1bi4emEkk[/youtube]

>>72300234
Pretty minor, but quite interesting. 7 is easily my favourite Dvorak symphony, I heard 9 in concert the other day and was reminded of all the moments in which 7 does the same thing, but better.

who has the best op 101, 106, 109, 110, 110 recordings?

>>72299522
Jazz is shitty ugga ugga noise

>>72301517
this is cancer...warning sign

>>72296907
>PBS
>not the last major media bastion of fine arts and culture and decently highbrow programming
Is this that degeneracy you're always talking about?

>>72300234
jesus those horn parts in the second movement are just incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJQYlt-m8Zo&t=1144

19:04 if the time stamp doesn't work

>>72301624

.... Refried BBC shows is highbrow now?

Petzold

>>72299522

Music theory is irrelevant for taste.

Look at how terrible everything became after the theorists took over.

Proms announced today

memes:
>70th birthday celebrations of John Adams
>cycle of Elgar symphonies
>autist-friendly prom
>Cameron Carpenter playing the organ in Saint-Saens' Organ Symphony
>Dunedin Consort doing St John Passion (Could be good so long as Butt doesn't OVPP it)
>Charles Mingus: Revisited
>Classical Music of India and Pakistan
>Orchestra composed entirely of minorities
>Freiburg Baroque Orchestra playing Mendelssohn (?) although with Faust playing the Mendelssohn overture.
>Schiff playing the entirety of WTC over two nights (he might just have finished book 1 by the time they get to the second night)

Good things include
>A new Requiem by Macmillan
>Gardiner and co. doing BWV 79+80 along with music by Schutz
>concert performance of Khovanshchina
>John Wilson orchestra doing Oklahoma! (bit memey, but John Wilson orchestra are great)
>Latvian Radio Choir doing Rach's All-Night Vigil
>A very good Romantic French prom including lots of Saint-Saens alongside some Franck, Delibes and Lalo
>Gurrelieder (although conducted by Rattle, pretty great line-up of soloists)
>All Czech concert featuring music by Smetana, Suk, Janacek and Martinu
>Petrenko conducting Shosti 12
>Concertgebouw playing Bruckner 9 alongside a piece by Rihm, then Mahler 4
>Maxwell-Davies' 8 Songs for a Mad King

>>72303281
Faust playing the Mendelssohn concerto*

>>72303281

You guys still don't have a refugee orchestra yet? Islamic philharmonic? Queer quartet? Tranny Symphony?

Why has progress stalled?

>>72303281
>Freiburg Baroque Orchestra playing Mendelssohn
fml just play Baroque music for fuck's sake
sick of period performers dipping their toes into everything

>>72303676
>refugee orchestra
basically Barenboim's East-West Divan orchestra

>>72303281
>70th birthday celebrations of John Adams
>cycle of Elgar symphonies
>autist-friendly prom
>Cameron Carpenter playing the organ in Saint-Saens' Organ Symphony
>Dunedin Consort doing St John Passion (Could be good so long as Butt doesn't OVPP it)
>Charles Mingus: Revisited
>Classical Music of India and Pakistan
>Orchestra composed entirely of minorities
>Freiburg Baroque Orchestra playing Mendelssohn (?) although with Faust playing the Mendelssohn overture.
>Schiff playing the entirety of WTC over two nights (he might just have finished book 1 by the time they get to the second night)


PROGRESSIVES NEED TO FUCK OFF FROM THE ARTS

>>72302474
Opera and theatre are highbrow you shit

>>72303963
Tacky middlebrow rubbish, they only got elevated to highbrow after cinema arrived. Theatre was for reprobates in Shakespeare's day and opera was more like sport booing arias.

>>72304049
>opera was more like sport booing arias
not particularly. Baroque opera (at least opera seria) was mostly enjoyed by the aristocracy, with the more comedic operas being directed towards the bourgeois classes. By the time you get to Mozart, the split is a little more even, but it really remained something that didn't attract the lower classes. Wagner wanted his Ring cycle to appeal to the common man because he though opera was still too elitist (also why Bayreuth was built).

>>72303963
Opera and theatre are tryhard shit for fedoras. Also, (((PBS))) doesn't even air anything close to that anyway.

Average (((PBS))) schedule:
>12 hours of kids shows with subtle liberal propoganda
>PBS Nightly News sponsored by the Democrat party
>BBC news telecast for some reason ft. globalists
>Marathon of old people selling useless junk - the reality show
>Telethon - gib me money pls
>some shitty opera or theater program
>science/nature documentary about muh climate change
>random episode of forgotten BBC shitcom from 1992
>Telethon #2 - pls gib more $$$$
>random episode of mid-2000s BBC crime drama that is essentially CSI or Law and Order with accents
>some fucking history documentary about Democrats being good and Republicans being bad
>30 minutes of watching paint dry


Wow. Yeah, this DEFINITELY needs to be funded with billions of taxpayer dollars and not outright shut down.

>>72304153

Enjoyed by the aristocracy is too simplistic. They went there mostly to show off their jewels and find princes to fuck. The expensive opera tickets were just their way of filtering out pleb genes.

The Opera house is a cliche setting for degenerate elitist romance at this point.

Petzold

Bump you faggots

>>72304172
Trump is defunding PBS/NPR/CPB/NEA and all that other libtard bullshit.

Good riddance to bad trash. If the free market won't support it, it doesn't deserve to exist anyway.

Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUkb65pxJJ8

>tfw can't stop listening to old meme opera performers
help

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Best Bruckner 9? I nominate Jochum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IKW3KaGFX8&list=PLllkcDva-UYMSXPzSusAGt6JgWTRq8meQ&index=33

>>72306064
Is Giulini too obvious?

>>72304190
>The Opera house is a cliche setting for degenerate elitist romance at this point.
No, it's a cliche setting for degenerate elitist producers that ruin everything they touch.

>>72306040
Always dangerous. The youtube comment sections in those "comparison" videos are always goldmines, but it gets virulent very, very quickly

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Such a simple change, but so beautiful.

>>72300439
Nothing beats the largo.

>>72303281
The John Adams celebration is nice but the minority thing sounds lame.

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>>72304172
Stop with your /poltv/ shitposting copypasta.

mem

>>72306915
It's true though. PBS is trash. Liberal propoganda masquerading as intellectual/arts programming.

>>72307724
>Liberal propoganda
Fuck off and take your liberal spelling with you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Bm_FzsCjo
Is this classical?

Soler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY16l7AIXFY

Are there any pieces that cadence using v-i instead of V-i?

>>72308494
pieces written in the dorian mode, perhaps? not sure

Why do hipsters love Morton Feldman so much? It's just a couple of note stretched over an hour.

>>72306064
Probably Furt or Hausegger amongst mono recordings. Kna might've been top-drawer, but he uses that cheesy Loewe edition which made numerous egregious changes. Great performance though; easily his best Bruckner.

For stereo recordings, I agree Jochum is a good choice, though I would also add Kubelik, Schuricht, and possibly Keilberth. Skrowaczewski's earlier recording is also a good listen simply on the basis on its audiophile production.

>>72309292
>Hausegger
Who

>>72309318
He eggs houses

>>72309318
The conductor for the premiere studio recording. He was also a champion of the symphony in its original form at a time where only the inferior Loewe edition was known.

>On 2 April 1932, Hausegger presented a concert in which the symphony was performed twice by the Munich Philharmonic; first in Loewe's version then using Bruckner's original autograph. Today the symphony is almost always presented in Bruckner's original form. Hausegger assisted Robert Haas and Alfred Orel in preparing the edition of Symphony published as Volume 9 of Anton Bruckner

>It was the performance of this 9th Symphony in 1932 by the Munich Philharmonic under Siegmund von Hausseger at a semi-private concert in both the Loewe and the Orel editions that provided the impetus for the support and funding of the Bruckner Society to prepare authentic versions of all of the symphonies.

Why do liebruls love John Zorn so much?

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>>72309398

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO3ewYOD4zE

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Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEQBghFyAQQ&list=PLLaftVoEd6duulT1gFWMSxhrNYTZi1hb9&index=1

>lump on my balls
>a bunch of pus just came out of it
Music for this feel?

Petzold

>>72311816
I love how slow that record is.

>>72311849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp3BlFZWJNA

>>72306247

That recording is a meme, obviously the sound is gorgeous as hell but it's so slow all the dramatic tension is just sapped away. Not bad but not the "wrath of God" the 9th was crafted to be.

>>72306040
Same
In spite of the shitty audio quality, I could listen to Melchior's golden voice all day

>>72311849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHamoW_O5hY