How can y'all say Kendrick is NOT one of the GOATS?

>>72197236
>How can y'all say Kendrick is NOT one of the GOATS?
he's human

>>72197236
So who does come close?

>ATCQ
Fantastic discography with tons to digest and subject matter to enjoy.

>Outkast
Same as above but somehow even more varied music to enjoy. Their discography is better than Kendrick's

>De La Soul
Ignoring their newest album, same as Outkast but they don't have the same chemistry that Outkast have.

>UGK
Possibly the quintessential southern hip hop group

>Eric B. & Rakim
What they did for hip hop and with the quality of their solo projects and group projects they are definitely some of the greatest

>Gucci Mane
This one's kinda cheating, he released so much music that of course he has a LOT of great projects and songs

>>72197370
honestly all of these have at least an album thats better than kennys best

>>72197438
I can respect that opinion but I can't if you're referring to any of the artists in the OP

>>72197459
i meant that post but lifestyles of the poor and dangerous, ready to die and doris are arguably better too.

>>72197438
So does almost everyone in the OP

>>72197236
>Earl Sweatshirt
>Make some more music and then come back to me, Earl
>Freddie Gibbs
>Same as above
freddie gibbs has a ton of music wtf

Go to bed Kendrick/Fantano, stop shilling, you're artificially popular

>>72197236
Lil B

>>72197236
Old was pretty good, it just Wasn't XXX levels of quality. AE is his worst album, he tried too hard to be unique and experimental. It just comes off as pretentious and boring. Danny thinks it's some kind of deep shit when it's really not.

>>72197236
>he's nowhere near the rapper Kendrick is
Explain this.

>>72197236
How does your Aesop Rock criticism not apply to Kendrick too?

>>72197236
>Don't make me laugh
and here's why anyone likes that boring pretentious killjoy kendrick

Kendrick is the GOAT rapper
Kanye is the GOAT artist in the hip-hop scene
ATCQ made the GOAT music in hip-hop
Nas made the GOAT hip-hop album of all time

>>72197236
>>72199949
why are rapfags so obsessed with oneupmanship, as if music was a competition

>>72199973
music isn't a competition, but hip-hop is

>>72199849
kendricks music is much more interesting at surface level he never dives full rappity rap

>>72200019
all of Kendrick's music is full rappity rap

>>72197236
Lmao at all these mainstream pop rappers.

Imagine thinking Lamar has good production

Ghostface Killah

>>72197236
kendrick weak bro. time to find another dick to suck, maybe someone more deserving this time.

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lets settle this shit

Kendrick or Drake

https://strawpoll.com/8549er9

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How many days until all the hypebeast gen z dick riders have their t-shirt's tucked in?

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>>72200296

Drake btfo

Eminem shouldnt even be mentioned.

I hope nobody on /mu/ seriously listens him.

Why the hate on DOOM. He inspired many artists, had a genre classic and is overall sick. Some of his more recent work is mediocre yes, but saying no one gives two fucks about him is pretty ignorant

>>72200296
who the fuck could argue that drake is better unless your argument is based on sales alone? He only had two good albums (take care and If you reading this...) and none of them are classics...Kendrick's reach and output is on a whole other level, he's like what Frank Ocean is to R&B while Drake is comparable to the Weeknd

>>72197236
What's with RTJ

>>72200720
the characters thing he does is a fucking retarded gimmick, his rapping is completely monotone, and he just rhymes a lot without saying anything.

He's technically skilled, I guess, but who cares?

>>72200885
>Doom does character thing

Kendick riders: what a fucking retarded gimmick

>DIS DICK AINN FREE

Kendick riders: HMMM REALLY MAKES YOU THINK CLEARLY THIS REFERS TO THE ALTAR OF WHITE SUPREMACY AND KENDRICK'S DESIRE NOT TO PIMP HIS CELEBRITY KENDRICK THE GOAT

>>72201025
this lmao, kendrick dickriders sound so ridiculous

Kendrick has a pretty good fucking discography. Section 80 is good, GKMC is great, TPAB is also great but DAMN. is actually worse than Section 80.

>>72201330
nah bro

Section 80 had much higher highs but also much higher lows and sometimes it's sickening to listen to

>>72201025
the characters that kendrick plays aren't gimmicky though, they are based on his surroundings and reflect our surroundings too, we resonate more with it

>>72200885
You just dont get it.

>>72201025
No, I hate Kendrick Lamar and MF DOOM.

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>People ITT are actually hating on The Villain.
Despicable.

>>72197236
it's a good thing you didn't mention hip hop

>>72201451
>and reflect our surroundings too
maybe the surroundings of a gullible idiot

>>72197236
>Great artist and very talented rapper but who gives two fucks about some villian who makes obscure references.
No wonder why you think Kendrick "whiteboi" Lamar is one of the bests.

>>72201429
You mean technically. That doesn't change that the album is still better than DAMN.

That said, I must have the leak or something but the quality of DAMN. is fucking terrible.

>/mu/ talking about rap like they're experts on the subject
>this are the same people that were probably listening to tame impala a couple of years ago

>>72200343
>Drake that high
The fuck is wrong with you cucks?

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>>72197236
Excuse me?

>>72202140
GOAT producer working with GOAT >>72200175
MC

God Bless

>>72197438
I'm pretty sure Gucci Mane doesn't have a single album thats less than 40% trash, and this is coming from a huge Gucci fan

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>Freddie Gibbs
>Make some more music

He has the same amount of studio albums as Kendrick, as well as a handful of mixtapes and EP's. Piñata is the best hip hop album of this decade by far, and the rest of his discography is on par with Kendricks albums.

>>72197236
>>72197236
can he play any instruments?

>>72197545
Earl is my favorite rapper but Doris is no where close to TPAB or GKMC. I truly believe Earl can drop a timeless project though

>>72198903
>AE is his worst album
I disagree. It wasn't the CRAZY AVANT-RAP MASTERPIECE people hyped it up to be but it had some great songs, unorthodox production, and overall was better than "dude twerk bangers lmao"

XXX is legitimately one of the best hip-hop albums of all time and is better than GKMC and TPAB

>>72202680

>XXX is legitimately one of the best hip-hop albums of all time and is better than GKMC and TPAB

LOOOOL

>>72201451
>the characters that kendrick plays aren't gimmicky though, they are based on his surroundings and reflect our surroundings too, we resonate more with it

>I PRAY MY DIH GET BIG AS DE EIFFEL TOWAH, SO I CAN FUCK DAH WORL FOR SEVENTY TWO HOUAH

>BITCH DON'T KILL MY VIBE, BITCH DON'T KILL MY VIBE

>GET A SWIMMIN POOL FULL OF LIQUOR AND U DIIIIIVE IN (but really drinking is bad guise)

>DA YAM IS THE POWAH THAT BE

It's almost like Kendrick only puts on a persona when he needs to drop a meme song for normies because most of his music as Kendrick is fucking boring.

>>72202140
Wu Tang is garbage.

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Why are there two threads like this?

>>72202422
You Only Live 2wice is FG's only good album.

>>72198475
/thread

>>72201915
?

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Hey yo.

nu /mu/ losing faith in yeezy baka

>>72197236
this is such a cringy album aesthetic, ironic or not.

Kendrick is the best hip hop artist by a fucking miles. It use to be "well we will see after GKMC" then he dropped TPAB, then it was like alright this nigga needs 3 good albums at least. Now he's right up there, he's proven himself 100% he's released 3 amazing albums in a row.

>>72200320
asap rocky did this last year

>>72200343
Wow man, 65 votes. Pretty impressive!

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Kenny just barely tied up with this dude

>>72201778
Audiences love to hate

>>72203420
dawg....

>>72197236
>Old was pretty fucking atrocious, pun intended
nigga what?

are you just going to ignore
>old
>the return
>25 bucks
>gremlins
>dope fiend
>torture
>lonely
>clean up
>red 2 go
>float on

Kanye has a better flow then Kendrick. He has that swag that kendrick lacks sometimes

>>72208147
kanye has the same fucking flow in all his songs. Kanye is more experimental than Kendrick though Ill give him that.

>>72197236
Kanye level of production musically, visually, social consciousness and ability to change sounds every few years nearly flawlessly changing entire musical landscapes makes him the top GOAT. Kendrick can rap better but that's it.

>>72197236
Besides Kingdom Come, MCHG, and his albums with R. Kelly, I'd say Jay-Z has a very consistent discog, just a lot of good albums people ignore cause they're not his well-known classics like Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint.

Vol. 3: The Life & Times of S. Carter and American Gangster definitely deserve more attention than they get.

>>72208147
Kanye doesn't even write his own raps man cmon this is fucking blasphemy

>>72200829
This comparison confuses me. Frank Ocean isn't even as good as The Weeknd on a lyrical, sonic or commercial level, meanwhile Kendrick is much better than Drake on at least two (and the most ones).

>>72208246
>Kanye doesn't even write his own raps
Again with this meme?

>>72202422
desu piñata is the shit.
i really hope they make more music

>>72197236
These aren't arguments.

>>72200883
Nobody wants to compare their favorite rappers to RTJ, they make other actual GOAT contenders look real beatable.

>>72207862
Redman is so fucking underrated. Nobody's discussing him ever and that's sad.

>>72208692
Run the Jewels can't be that good, can they? I saw mu on these niggas' nuts when their first album came out. After that it seems like they completely disappeared here.

>>72197236
go back to /r/hhh or ktt whichever one of those u came from

fucking dustheads baka

>>72197370
>>72197438
Objectively Buhloone Mindstate is a better jazz rap album than TPAB

>>72200452
>implying he doesn't have three classics
>implying that at the very least he's not a GOAT technical rapper

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>>72197236
>Kool Keith isn't the Goat
KK is too future for you plebs. It's going to take the rest of hip hop 25 years to catch up with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp4Twh0rgdg

>>72197236
I was going to read this thread but after this self righteous OP, I'd rather not waste my time.

>>72209150
I always thought Critical Beatdown was better than any of Keith's solo stuff, but maybe it's just because of its influence

>>72197370
UGK
Gucci Mane

wut

>>72209150
how do you manage to accomodate laaarge penussiz

>>72209254
It's just a different kind of thing. Dr. Octagon is on the same level and maybe more influential at this point.

>>72208985
El-P was the king of underground hip hop for over 10 years, godlike abstract producer and incredible MC. Funcrusher Plus, Little Johnny From The Hospitul, The Cold Vein, and Fantastic Damage are all hip hop essentials, and he's worked with every east coast indie darling from Aesop Rock to Das Racist. Definitive Jux was the most decorated indie label of the 2000s.

Killer Mike is lowkey the realest rapper in the game right now, absolutely nobody can fuck with him. Dude's a titan, he's got the quotable grandma wisdom of Andre 3000 and makes Kendrick look half asleep, and he's only gotten better. RTJ 2 and 3 make him sound like an alltime great.

kenny better than eminem ? lol

>>72209473
EL-P and Killer Mike are very good on their own, but RTJ is corny punchline garbage.

>>72209150
this is fucking horrible.

>>72209540
El-P was literally always corny, get real.

>>72209473
Def Jux probably would've blown up mainstream if it wasn't for The Chronic 2001 rebuilding the west coast gangsta scene from scratch, and allowing shit like G Unit and Terror Squad and Roc-a-fella (that's only half true since they were already established east coast by that point) a platform to operate on. Outside influence from the south didn't help either. El-P was one of the best underground producers no doubt but he was such a stiff rapper some times. Credit also goes to Black Star/Hi-Tek and People Under The Stairs for helping underground hip hop thrive during the rough patches in the late 90s

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>>72209556
People like you destroyed hip hop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xFAkQtvk-Q

>>72198475
lil b released a mixtape just under six hours long. Kendrick could never touch that work ethic, i don't care how busy he is fist bumping obama

>>72209744
Lil B is great only because he's a fucking sociopath and that makes for good hip hop. He's the millennials Divine Styler

>>72200720
>Some of his more recent work is mediocre yes
"no"

best rapper is unironically lil ugly mane

>>72209813
>sociopath
>>???

>>72209813
I cired listening to this and I have to say there aren't many songs or artists that make me cry, especially when the song is about hood shit. This song is beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxE5CwnmLCI

>>72200885
sorry you only think political rap is good

>>72201915
this

>>72208246
wrong

>>72209956
Lil B has and will always be unironically bad.

Nigga sucked in The Pack, nigga sucks solo.

>>72209981
Again, I hate MF Doom and Kendrick Lamar.
I'm not the OP.

>>72210139
actually fuck off with your shit taste
yeah he was shit with the pack, but hes on another level and has been since 2010

>>72209956
>>72210139
the video is cringey, but this song by itself is actually really good and executed in a more interesting way than any of Kendrick's music.
And this is coming from someone who hates music without choruses.

>>72210292
>another level

Correct, on another level of shit. Congrats, your tastes are worse than a 16 year old suburban white girl's.

>>72201330
This exactly

>>72197236
>listening to any other rap than trap and drill
Stay pleb

kung fu kenny is objectively the GOAT

the only one that comes even close to touching him is andre 3000

Ehhh.... Objectively KRS-One ?

> LIKE 5/6 classic albums which is obscene for hip hop
> political content without being preachy and also using witticisms
> sick flow (Jamaican Patois; check out "Blows" w/ Redman)
> basically stayed consistent and at a high level through his own skills and without "marketing and promotion" while never going away from original hip hop culture

he isn't even my fav but I think he best encapsulates the ideal artist

>>72197367
Fpbp

>>72199973
as if rolling stone don't got 100 articles on "whose da great and why is it the beatles"

>>72197236
>>Ice Cube
>Gangsta rap albums followed by more gangsta rap albums... yawn

>Kendrick
>one social "problems" album followed by more social "problems" albums....
hmmmmmmm

>>72208147
I think Kanye is the overall better artist but cmon man
you cant be serious if you say kanye has a better flow than kendrick

Souilja Boy is the best rapper of all time

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>MF DOOM
> Great artist and very talented rapper but who gives two fucks about some villian who makes obscure references. definitely not the goat lmaoo


OP has proven himself to be a worldclass fucking pleb. you are dismissing an artist just because you don't get his references. MF DOOM is on another fucking universe to be compared to king of plebs Kendshit Lamar

>not including Madlib and Quasimoto

Cmon son...

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I'm telling you rn by 2020 we gonna be talking about mf XXXtentacion on these lists. He's the best out right now and he's only gonna get better. Sky's the limit. Kid is like Kobe: young prodigy straight outta high school putting out good shit from day 1 then he ascends to greatness. X will fucking change hip hop mark my words. He will shit on Kendrick and everyone else. Kendrick will be #2 in the history books. Kendrick will be the Rolling Stones to Xxxtentacion's Beatles. Calling it and you know who said it first. I'm going to mark this with a trip so y'all know I said it and went there and saw the god damn future with my own two eyes. Nigga you know it will happen and you will all see. I am a hip hop scholar and I never seen anyone like this nigga who can do what he do. Mark my fucking words. X fucking Tentacion.

>>72198457
artificially popular? are you retarded

>>72211367
Lmao

>>72197370
D.cent list but idk 'bout gucccccci

>implying hip hop is music

>>72201330
Eh, I'm in the minority but I think a lot of Section 80 aged poorly. I think DAMN is a lot better.

>>72202680
>XXX better than GKMC and TPAB

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Kool Keith was truly a game changer, people just don't understand how much of an influence he was.

>>72197459
DOOM, Nas, Jay Z, Kanye, Mos Def and B.I.G. all have a better album than Kendrick's best. Not disagreeing with your main point, he IS one of the GOATs, but so are those guys.

>>72211312
Its possible to love both, I love the nigga Kendrick but how you gonna dis DOOM and Sub (RIP) the Brown Smothers Brothers.

>>72198475
FAX

The fact no one has mentioned Chuck D or Public Enemy yet is a travesty.

ITT: cowards don't even smoke cracke

>>72210174
How

>>72200320
As someone who works in a higher end clothes shop this has been a trend for a couple years now, it's all full circle. Dressing like a stylish dad is standard clothing outside of hypebeast culture.

>>72208776
agreed, listened to muddy waters yesterday, top tier record

>>72197236
>>Big L
>Not with one album lmao
>>B.I.G
>same as above

>one album
r u serious?

>>72208219
man blueprint 3 was bullshit though

>>72211001
i dont think he's goat but it definitely shouldnt have taken this long for someone to mention him

How come we haven't brought Joey BadA$$ to this convo?

>>72211804
I did the OP. I was gonna mention him but no one on /mu/ gives a fuck about KRS One because they have trash taste in hip hop (see muh death grips)

>>72202577
That's was my feeling after Doris, feeling like he was about to drop a game-changer, but I don't like shit was just... alright. I'm still hyped about the future tho, his stuff with Knxledge is very promising.

>>72211312
bro, just because you make a 5 hour avant garde
pretentious ass film does not make it better than a 90 min conventional film

MF DOOM is the most hipster choice for a GOAT and hispter culture is trash fuck off

>>72199973
battle rap subculture definitely puts more emphasis on competition in rap music than other genres
it's still better to be a real artist than trying to be the best artist, even in rap.

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BAKA, nearly 150 replies, and not one mentions the actual GOAT

>>72197367
Because his new album is commercialized trash; fanboys are in denial.

>>72197236
>Mentions Jay Z, Kanye, Aesop Rock, Earl Sweatshirt, Freddie Gibbs

>Not one mention of A Tribe Called Quest, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, OutKast, Rakim,UGK, Ghostface Killah, Lil B

>>72197236
E-40 shits all over Kendrick, and every other rapper you listed.

>>72203343
because this board is a dumpster fire

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The facts don't lie.

>>72197236
meme rap shit will never hold on my negro

>>Mos Def
>Up there with Kendrick
off yourself to reddit

>>72201025
This exactly.

>>72213565
you're right, mos def is overrated

Wtf is this non-sense

>>72202786
Yooo XXX is a fun project and I enjoy parts but one of the best of all time? You can't honestly believe that

>>72211805
2 8/10 albums and an 8/10 mixtape.
He cool but he nowhere near goat level.

>>72211852
dumbest thing I've read today, nice b8

LOOOOOOL, look at all these rockists. This thred is fucking cringe.
>Hurr that rapper doesn't even hav that many good albums
Are you really judging rap talent by how many albums they have?

really do fucking HOPE TO GOD you all aren't THIS fucking RETARDED.

If you seriously think that's a good line in ANY sort of way, shape or form, I'm sorry (actually, I'm fucking not), but I have to unironically inform you that you must be WAY below average levels regarding intelligence or mental capabilities, otherwise I see no fucking possible explanation to any somewhat intelligent being (not just human) ((subhumans/ niggers included)) ever thinking that's a "clever" fucking """"""""""rhyme"""""""""".

I have NEVER seen a bigger industry plant than fucking Kendrick "shit" Lamar. As in, how fucking much (((money))) do (((they))) fucking pay you idiotic, retarded, braindead shills to promote his shitty fucking music? Is it REALLY worth it to waste your life advertising a fucking niggerman whose music SUCKS major dick to underage people all over the internet?

How SAD are YOU? Seriously, get a fucking life, no, really, I'm not kidding, I will say this in the fucking face of EVERY Kendrick fan. Just please, please, please, kill YOURSELVES. PLEASE.

And now a little something for those who will say my post lacks "substance", or some shit like that. Here's my reasoning solely based on this "man"'s "music":

The beat is TERRIBLE.

>OH WOW DUDE THE BEAT FUCKING CHANGES FROM ONE MINUTE OF THE SONG TO ANOTHER!!1!!11!2!211!!!!!1!

Yeah, thank fucking GOD, otherwise I would literally fall ASLEEP DURING THE FUCKING "TRACK".

Second of all, his voice is TERRIBLE. No, really, he sounds like an underage child whose voice is just starting to change and mature yet it never fully does, and it actually fucking HURTS to listen to from how fucking cringy and WEAK it is.

And his "message"? WHAT FUCKING "MESSAGE"? HE HAS NEVER SAID ANYTHING OF RELEVANCE BESIDES MUH OPPRESSION MUH DICK MUH ALCOHOL, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING RAPPER HAS BEEN DOING SINCE THE FUCKING 90S.

Holy FUCK I'm mad. Reached character limit: FUCK YOU.

>>72211805
Joey's nice but nah he's not in this conversation.

Listen to AABA then the more politically charged tracks on TPAB and you'll see the difference, Joey was surface level as fuck and repeated so many cliche and overripe talking points (not saying they are or aren't true btw). Kendrick came 2 years earlier and his analysis still feels more fresh.

Side note but I went back to Revolutionary Vol 2 (Immortal Tec) and it blew me away yet again.

>>72214992
Jesus christ, you somehow managed to reach character limit without making a single coherent point. +1

>>72212884
he mentioned ATCQ Outkast Rakim and UGK later you fucking idiot, read the thread

>>72200452
t. Edgy 12 yr old

>>72208397
LMAO WHAT?! Frank Ocean is so many levels ahead of The weeknd when it comes to lyrics and sonical range it not even funny.

>>72214992
i feel like this is a j. cole copypasta but every time j cole is mentioned its kendrick lamar

>>72197236
DOOM and Jay-Z not better?
Ouch.

>>72211319
I love Madlib but his flow sucks.
He even said the only reason Quasi exists is because he knows he can't rap all that great.

>>72211548
>>72211962
Chuck D and others like Rakim and KRS shouldn't be in the convo because they're on a completely different level of GOAT.

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>>72197236
>Old was pretty fucking atrocious

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Bones is the GOAT

>>72211852
this was very dumb and immature, if you said that irl everyone would laugh and it has nothing to do with anything on this thread