The best live albums.

Literally every jazz album.

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>>72182932
this, especially pic related

>>72182932
haha!

>>72182832
love this album.

>>72183067
This is one of my all time favorites!
Incredible how Dave Holland just keeps releasing amazing music.

His 70's stuff is as good as his more recent stuff.

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>>72182565
literally the pleb version of this

>>72183187
oh shit. how have i missed this.

>>72183067
mm this is really good so far thanks for the rec

>>72183134
I love Dave Holland but I think his most recent stuff has gone downhill somewhat. I wish he would keep making records with the quintet honestly.

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so basically the answer to best live albums is jazz.

>>72183257
yeah its hard to expect the brilliance he displayed on stuff like conference of the birds.
The stuff he was doing at that time was really fresh and new.

Now he's just coming at jazz from different, pretty much already explored angles.

He is still an amazing composer and bass player.

>>72183254
yeah definitely one of the best post-2000 jazz albums. better than their studio recordings.

Amazing how even with all the gimmicks and stuff how Kamasi can't keep up an interesting level of musicianship for a 3 hour album, but these 5 guys can keep it up for 2 1/2 hours with just their instruments and no other gimmicks or studio effects or anything

>>72183279
It makes sense.
Jazz is the only music where the focal point is improvisation and performance. Creating music on the spot.

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Not even being ironic

>entire uncut show plus two encores
>that part where they let audience members sing Seek and Destroy
>that dicking around at the beginning of Battery

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This album kicks my ass every time I listen to it. Some of the best improvisation in rock music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uqy-LDdeDc

>>72183339
this, jazz artists all cut their teeth in live playing. Even a mediocre jazz player (really good high school player, say) can be extremely energetic live performers. It's really amazing.

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>>72183339
And Jam Bands which are just rock bands inspired by Jazz improvisation

>>72183299
i have to agree with this. if i see daves name on an album from the 70's i think to myself "nice, he'll probably yield some cool moments and not fuck anything up" but when i see his name on stuff now i shudder and think of how many bad mixed meter clave groover tunes him and chris potter will tamp down my throat. but i have to give credit where its due, hes one of the elder statesmen of jazz and a master of my chosen axe. someone i have a lot of respect for played with him on an NEC faculty recital in the 90s and enjoyed the experience but didnt love the music or what hes done with his big band.

>>72183339
It's gotten to the point where I can't really go see live music if there's not going to be any improvisation.

To me it's so boring when artists just play their shit just like it is on the record.

>>72183339
yeah man i know i was shit posting. i enjoy jazz music.

>>72183428
Nice.
It's almost unfair to expect a musician to still be brilliant and consistent after more than 50 years in the business, but Dave handles it well.
Awesome ,you played with him!
I'm a bass player as well.

>>72183428
>how many bad mixed meter clave groover tunes him and chris potter will tamp down my throat.
this is some of his best shit. yeah you can say the odd time sig thing is a gimmick but that band can play so fluidly in the odd times and the interplay is so on point with them. all their solos have a completely different character

>>72183428
>NEC faculty recital
Um, not to dickride, but you must be a really fucking good player. Got any cool stories?

>>72183428
also, he was doing the odd time sig thing in the 80's and 90's before it became trendy with all the NY guys. In fact, I think you could say he's one of the most influential dudes who helped create that whole movement of odd time sig post-bop that is popular in NY now. I know you don't like that shit but it's definitely been a major trend in the last 15 years.

>>72183511
>>72183557
no wait...how did i word that to make it sound like i played with him??? i did not play on a faculty recital at NEC with dave holland. One of my mentors and good friends did and was very open about the experience with me. another friend and teacher played in his big band for a while in the 90s.
>>72183536
if im being honest i dont think they play very fluidly in odd meters,it always comes across choppy, melodically lacking, and doesnt groove. this is just my opinion though, theyre great musicians so i probably just dont get something.

>>72183686
I read this as
>someone i have a lot of respect for
comma
>played with him on an NEC faculty recital in the 90s and enjoyed the experience but didnt love the music or what hes done with his big band.

>>72183604
oh man, you have a very good point that i agree with. if you look ive mentioned a bunch of times that i have a lot of respect for dave holland and think hes a very original and a great player, but youre right, i dont like the way those guys do odd meters. its obviously been suuuuper influential, youre right, but i also dont like a lot of the stuff its influenced so i can really say much good about the records being honest can i?

>>72183716
oh haha, that makes sense and sounds better. you give me way to much credit though, i dont speak that well or play well enough to play with holland

>>72183795
nice, I'm sure you're a fine player.

>>72183686
>it always comes across choppy, melodically lacking, and doesnt groove. this is just my opinion though, theyre great musicians so i probably just dont get something.
Well you're all about swing right? Is there any odd time sig, straight eighth stuff that you really like? I think the DHQ's studio stuff sounds too restrained and careful but they bring it in live settings? Have you heard the Birdland record? They let loose and go all over the place with the tunes even swinging sometimes. In one of his solos Chris quotes like 5 Bird tunes. That's their only official live record but I have some good bootlegs of them too.

>>72183754
I guess that's where it just comes down to taste. I think there's some odd time sig shit that's really bad where obviously they were just trying to write something in 17/8 to say they did it and it doesn't flow, but some of it is really good too and comes across feeling very natural. There have even been times where I listen to shit and don't realize it's in 10 or 13 until I actually count it out because it just flows. A lot of that comes down to the drummer though too.

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>>72183979
you said it yourself, i think it just comes down to taste. I wouldnt say im all about swing but i things that either groove and groove hard (swing can be a big part of that) or stuff thats in free time. straight 8ths wise i love a lot of ECM stuff, paul bley, steve khun, pat methenys earlier stuff and also threadgills zooid band is the first straight 8ths thing ive enjoyed in awhile. Ill also admit ive mostly heard the studio stuff, didnt know the live records were supposed to be that different but youre starting to convince me to check it out. i have to say though, theres very few odd time things i can admit i like.
>>72183836
thank you very much.

>>72184171
Yeah if you're judging the DHQ on just their studio shit then you're missing out. They always sound constrained and reserved in the studio, but not live. They even swing sometimes live, though I doubt you'd like the way the drummer swings. Chris swings hard as fuck on alto on Metamorphos though. He sounds like Cannonball if Cannonball had grown up in the 80's listening to Kenny Garrett.

>>72184351
okay, so just this live at birdland record? you said they dont have anymore live stuff?

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WHEN IT'S COLD

>>72185100
I'm pretty sure Birdland is their only official one, but I've got at least 2 or 3 bootleg recordings that I've been meaning to upload. And they have some live sets on YouTube but those aren't that great if I remember correctly. Birdland is the best one but it's 2 1/2 hours. It's worth it but sometimes you have to brak it into 2 listens.

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>>72182565

>>72185287
alright man, ill give it a listen. Thanks!

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