/shugazi/ - Shoegaze, Dreampop, Blackgaze, etc.

Underrated album, Turn Into is a killer track

>>72109597
What album?

>>72110297
Jay Som - Turn Into

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Seance was shit compared to this, and this was only a 6/10.

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>>72109597
Check this out dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtHdXH7JEoU

>>72111921
What's with the Tangible Rays hate?

>>72112870
Probably got posted one too many times for the autists

>>72111921
Both were about a 6/10 imo.
Cool sounds, but fails to really stimulate any significant feelings or thoughts

>>72111921
Hahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Hating Tangible Rays Real Hahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Take Off Your Headphones Haha

>>72112870
they listened to it

Whats the essentials of dream pop?Like early stuff

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Opinions on this? Trying to listen to more 2017 releases.

Is Bane's World dreampop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItWKSI5lVTI

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I am a Lake of Burning Orchids just dropped a new project
https://iamalakeofburningorchids.bandcamp.com/album/hyperousia

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This needs more attention

>>72114404
Have you listened to this yet? It's up with ersatz window imo desu

>>72114556
HOT

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Thoughts? I think the ambient/drone elements with lo-fi pop songs mixture is neat

What's mu's opinion on Fleeting Joys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzVyvrtn76Y

>>72111921
you're shit

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Listening to this for the first time now.

>>72112870
>>72113242
>>72114142
>>72116631
Sorry guys, don't know what to tell ya.

Entirely indistinct music like Tangible Rays' don't really get anywhere past pleasant.

Sure it could have cool influences, a neat sound, Beach Boys-inspired harmonies, whatever. But if all that is used entirely to set up an atmosphere, and there's nothing else done for the song past that, there really isn't much there to enjoy.

Feels to me like a reinterpretation of a style, which is alright, but without anything else to share or express past that.

>>72116735
He or they are all shills. Tangible Rays is really not memorable and you're right. All other albums posted in this thread right now are better releases.

>>72116735
>>72116896
weak b8 m8's

Thoughts on The Stargazer Lilies? I enjoy their sound but it sounds like it's missing something... low end or something?

>>72116650
>any good? about to listen to it

>>72117040
sorry didn't mean to quote

>>72117052
yeah it's really good

>>72116050
They're the most convincing MBV clones out there, and the singer sounds exactly like Kevin Shields. Pretty good stuff, and they even have choruses, which Loveless lacked.

>>72117076
Sicc, I love the Flenservs stuff usually so I'm excited

Why is there so little innovation in shoegaze relative to many other rock subgenres? Do the fans just not open themselves to it or are there just not enough bands taking risks for it to make a noticeable impact? I love this stuff but I really want it to evolve faster.

>>72117257
the sound is just too closely associated with the style and fashion of it.
people consider it to be kind of a whole package instead of just applying heavily treated guitars to stuff

>>72117307

And is there a number I can call to change that?

>>72117331
call a p4k writer and have them do a piece on the lack of progression in shoegaze, then start a band

>>72117257
It's not an "open source" genre. People associate it with the certain sound and don't want to stray from it.

>>72117401
If they stray from it, it becomes a different genre, hence blackgaze.

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Harakiri for the Sky

https://youtu.be/sHYOJaddKhI

>>72116005
This isn't really shoegaze. It sounds really good and has nice drones but I don't think the sounds are abrasive enough. It's very ambient. Good stuff though

>>72114556
C R I S P
S O U N D S C A P E
Are we getting a new album out of this? Weird for it to be an album of only one track, not a single.
Did anyone read the links he posted in the thread yesterday (if that was him posting)? Looked like some deep lore but the thread was dead by the time I got home.

>>72117734
They're pretty good. Don't know if I'd call them shoegaze, they're more meloblack.
I do wish they'd do more fast/heavy stuff like Jhator from Aokigahara instead of the slow depressive stuff, the screamo vocals work a lot better with energetic music.

>>72117911

OP mentions more genres than shoegaze

>>72117257
I would like to see more bands draw from how symphonic gamelan music layer their composition. Specifically how both have several distinct lines of melodic and rhythmic content layered on top, interlock, and play off of each other. I think having a large variety of effect pedals at your disposal has a huge potential for this type of layering because even though you would only be using guitars, you could easily make each line sound different from each other. That's not to say shoegaze doesn't layer their music, it's just that when I think of shoegaze, I don't think "layering guitar pedals and feedback in an intricate way" I think "wall of sound and obscured vocals". Using actual symphonic or gamelan instruments in shoegaze may or may not be a good idea (though tangentially, if anyone is interested in rock music that incorporates gamelan instruments, look up the band Macha).

>>72118196
>symphonic gamelan
*symphonic OR gamelan

Is RBT dead? I've been away from /mu/ for a bit.

>>72118355
not sure but it's been down for a while

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any album similar to pic

>>72118375
stone roses s/t

>>72118362
Alternate searchable archive: boads.4tan.org/mu/ (though search only returns 4 pages of the latest results)

What are some essential shoegaze chords?

>>72118500
alternating between I and IV

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help a lad out fixing a shite chart

tried listing best shoegaze/dream pop/noise pop/blackgaze/etc. release from each year starting with 1981 since i cant think of anything proper shugazi before then

what needs to get swapped out for what
rows run X0 - X9

>>72118891
Kinoko Teikoku - eureka
for 2013

real nigga hours

Y'all niggas got anything like Deafheaven, but less metal?

>>72119342
Alcest

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>>72114142

>>72118891
i feel like Heaven or Las Vegas is a better album from 1990 than Nowhere, but Nowhere is more shoegaze so im torn

>>72118196

Macha is pretty awesome and I fully endorse your plan for the future of shoegaze.

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What went wrong?

>>72120064
They stretched the bottom half.

>>72117257
I grew out of shoegaze a long time ago, but I'm doing it again and incorporating some really weird stuff in it, but I don't post my stuff on /mu/.

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better than loveless

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>>72118891
you're on to something, yet i don't feel it's a representative list of shoegaze throughout the years. too many recurring artists, maybe too much blackgaze in the 00s although it's hard to ignore the impact of an album like sunbather

>>72118891
2016: psub - grandfeathered
2015: psub - everything else matters
2014: nothing - guilty of everything
2013: mbv - m b v
2012: wild nothing - nocturne
2011: whirr - distressor
2010: radio dept - clinging to a scheme
2009: psub - happy songs for happy zombies
2007: angelic process - weighing souls with sand
2006: the goslings - grandeur of hair
2005: astrobrite - pinkshinyultrablast
2001: lovesliescrushing - xuvetyn
1997: yo la tengo - I can hear the heart beating as one
1992: medicine - shot forth self living
1987: jamc - darklands

>>72114556
This is amazing.

>>72120064
It's ok, but forgettable. I don't find myself revisiting it very often. A solid 6.5/10 imo.
Also some songs sound like early Coldplay with distortion, not a bad thing tho.

>>72116650
fuck its good

https://trautonist.bandcamp.com/
thoughts on this?

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>>72111956
i don't dislike it, it reminds me of diiv every now and then. but other times they sound totally different like wall of sound shugazi bands.. or just your regular britpop band. a bit all over the place stylisticly.

>>72119903
I hit that dilemma too, as well as Lazer Guided Melodies vs. Down Colorful Hill for 1993
>>72118960
As much as I love eureka there's much better releases for the 2013 spot alone between Sunbather, m b v, and Ceres & Calypso
>>72120865
>too many recurring artists
I was kinda afraid of this, the multiple Beach House releases can definitely be toned down, but the abundance of cocteau twins can't really be helped unless anyone has suggestions otherwise
As far as blackgaze releases go I think Sunbather and Alcest's first or second album definitely belong on there
>>72120931
I'm just going to post polls for the years I couldn't figure out, thanks for some of these

does anyone know if mazzy star will release any new material soon?
they released season of your day in 2013 after not putting out anything for 2 decades and since then the only thing that came out have been hope sandoval's solo albums

>>72122803
>As much as I love eureka there's much better releases for the 2013 spot alone between Sunbather, m b v, and Ceres & Calypso
Hmm in that case Id probably put Ceres and Calypso.
As much as sunbather is huge, we definitely talk more about Ceres and Calypso.

reminder that this is the best general

AOTY POLLS FOR THE '10s
>2016
http://www.strawpoll.me/12731457
>2015
http://www.strawpoll.me/12731521
>2014
http://www.strawpoll.me/12731569
>2013
http://www.strawpoll.me/12731624
>2012
http://www.strawpoll.me/12731670
>2011
http://www.strawpoll.me/12732561
>2010
http://www.strawpoll.me/12732533

Will get 00s, 90s, and 80s done later

Can we please call space rock/shoegaze hybrids stargaze?

>>72123991
>>72124870
seconding these

new COTD fucking when

Even an EP would be nice.

>>72116650
aotysf for me

approaches the impact that deathconsciousness had on me, and that's my top album of all time

Anything similar to this?
https://youtu.be/855klBq2fnQ
or some stoner/drone-gaze in general

>>72114404
yeah its good. nice cover btw

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Some good underground Dreampop:

>Winter

https://samirawinter.bandcamp.com/track/someone-like-you
https://samirawinter.bandcamp.com/track/some-kind-of-surprise

>Ditch Days

https://ditchdays.bandcamp.com/track/nostalgia
https://ditchdays.bandcamp.com/track/back-in-the-city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiah2Bxx2ZM

>>72122201
>>72125930
bandcamp musicians will save shoegaze I promise you

>>72120546
kek

Anyone got any recs similar to Swirlies? Pretty good sound that seems untapped in later genre releases.

>>72119342
Botanist - IV Flora

AOTY POLLS FOR THE '00s
>2009
http://www.strawpoll.me/12733448
>2008
http://www.strawpoll.me/12733494
>2007
http://www.strawpoll.me/12733548/
>2006
http://www.strawpoll.me/12733590
>2005
http://www.strawpoll.me/12733639
>2004
http://www.strawpoll.me/12733692
>2003
http://www.strawpoll.me/12733908
>2002
http://www.strawpoll.me/12733820
>2001
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734033
>2000
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734001

90s and 80s coming later

>>72126989
Not shoegaze but Sonic Youth is pretty similar

>>72109597
>tfw tripped balls while listening to this and everybody works and now love jay som but this entire board hates hur due to being shilled by trendy e-blogs everywhere

>>72127935
>trendy e-blogs
it isn't 2009, these don't exist anymore

>>72116050
Good band, one of my favourite shoegaze bands.

Kiss a girl in black is one of my favourite songs of all time
Magnificent oblivion, young girl's fangs and patron saint are also very good.

If you want a more "original" sound, their first LP Occult Radiance is more unique sounding than Despondent Transponder

>>72124800
>>72127707
>baww there isn't enough artist variation theres too much beach house
>all psub and astrobrite for top now

>>72127973
Please stop reminding me that Carles is gone
What should I refer to pitchfork,fader,vice,etc now

>>72128183
refer to shugazi

>>72128253
don't refer to this nerd lmao

bump, 90s polls on the way

To whoever recced 宇宙ネコ子 in the other thread: thanks!

What even is a shoegaze gf anyway? Just a gf that listens to shoegaze?

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i like this band

AOTY POLLS FOR THE '90s
>1999
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734305
>1998
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734359
>1997
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734382
>1996
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734419
>1995
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734460
>1994
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734498/
>1993
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734549
>1992
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734617/
>1991
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734798
>1990
http://www.strawpoll.me/12734822

why the fuck was slowcore such a horrible, awful fad around the turn of the millenium
thank god that died

>>72130038
(you missed Yerself is Steam for 1991)

>>72130465
shit
tbf there's no way it's beating loveless but thanks for catching that at least

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>>72120064
Fuck every last one of you. Tangible Rays Seance is still my AOTY. The ending to Never Say made me weep out of the sheer beauty of it. I don't give a shit if it's shilled or not, it deserves to be. Rob, I don't know if you still frequent /mu/ or not, but I just wanted to tell you that you are doing God's work.

>>72130522
>I don't give a shit if it's shilled or not, it deserves to be.
That's probably why it gets so much shit. Give something too much attention and kneejerk reactions will always happen. Just the way of life.

Glad you like it though.

bump for 80s soon

FUCK I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD PICK MULTIPLE ALBUMS FOR THE VOTES.

>>72131640
FUCk

>>72125930
>>Winter

Supreme Blue Dream is as good as ceres & calypso t b q h

AOTY POLLS FOR THE '80s
>1989
http://www.strawpoll.me/12735248
>1988
http://www.strawpoll.me/12735280
>1987
http://www.strawpoll.me/12735302
>1986
http://www.strawpoll.me/12735333
>1985
http://www.strawpoll.me/12735383


DONE because it's literally only cocteau twins pre-85

>>72131640
YOU IDIoT

>>72125930
any download links for ditch days??

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too many goddamn ties

>>72132302
>snore

You're as bad as someone who never gets tired of Pink Floyd The Wall.

>>72130522
seconding this

>>72132417
who are you quoting

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>>72132302
>sunbather beating both candy claws and mbv

>>72132302
How does this chart work?

>>72124800
>True Widow: AHATHHAFTCTTCOTE
Thank you for including them, no one ever mentions them

>>72132761
that album seems to get a good bit of well-deserved praise in these threads desu

>>72132563
those three are always neck and neck for these threads' favorite 2013 release
candyclaws stans seem to be the most vocal of the bunch though

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This reminds me of the shangri-las.

>>72132817
It doesn't help that people hate on Deafheaven for "ruining" american black metal when that trend was started by Alcest and Wolves in the Throne Room and is actually not bad.
Trve Kvlt idiots need to learn that just because they made something that was supposed to be the antithesis of accessible doesn't mean people aren't allowed to take its aesthetic and make something different.

>>72132417
you sound like someone who listens to swans and thinks they have an "interesting" taste in music

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>>72132302
This should really be in the 2002 spot. It's significantly better J-Shoegaze than Xinlisupreme.

>>72133424
not enough people have even voted in the non-10s polls to really validate anything on there yet desu

I think xinlisupreme has like 3 votes and that has 2
give it time

please give me your saddest shoegaze I have ruined my life and need to fade desperately

Fade as in get faded, or fade away into the hermit life. If the latter, this is perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx5_A2sGiT0

>>72133581
fade as in I really really do not want to feel myself exist anymore

>>72133538
Planning For Burial - Leaving

If you want to be smothered to death by /fuzz/ then Nadja - Radiance of Shadows

>>72132302
why are all the years ending in 9 so shitty for shoegaze

>>72133581
this isn't as dense and crushing as I hoped but it is really fitting my mood so thank you

>>72133606
thank you

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Listening to this felt like I was memed, big time.

>>72128183
RIP carles miss u bb

>>72133581
Would you mind uploading their debut album I can't connect to soulseek for some reason and the archive is down maybe forever

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>>72133849
Drape - Canicular Days [Flac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlaAqbES6tc

https://mega.nz/#F!VYZB2DrA!SJebfqzXexDkm3vGSuNd9Q

Anything for /shugazi/

>>72133945
Super grateful

>>72128183
>>72133750
what would carles have written about shoegaze had he been around in the early 90s

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This is phenomenal, highly rec!

>>72133945

>flac

:/

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>>72134444
Use foobar to convert. Very simple.

>>72134444
http://media.io/
quads deserve a lil spoonfeeding

>>72133747
Why? What didn't you like about it?

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>>72134396
Mah nigga!' Great EP.

This is amazing too.

>>72130038
Was there a worse year for shoegaze than 1999?
The two best albums from that year are just second tier releases from bands (Low and Skywave) that have done much better

>>72133747
you're a fool

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Too many splits still, no one gives a shit about 1999 or 1989, you guys all have very boring and predictable tastes desu

>>72134396
>>72135307
i just cannot get into this band for the life of me

>>72136418
Then maybe life isn't for you.


Or stick to noise.