/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

First for the one: Joan Soriano - The Duque of Bachata

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Anyone else here play Rickenbackers?

>>72006021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCIc1Pu72O8

Whats your impressions and thoughts on the solo of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70XhfcF6UHk

@2:08
Also whats that phasing effect? Just chorus?

Anyone else use legato when normies are watching because it makes you look better than you are?

>>72006072
I've never understood the attraction to these. More power to you if you like them but I think they're ugly as sin.

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>>72006072
Ye boo

>>72002969
>>72005961

The dirt transmitter kicks ass. It's not a natural, "smooth" fuzz. You can kinda get that, especially if you smooth it out with an overdrive after it in the chain, but it's not what the pedal is good at.

It's tons of fun to mess with the bias knob. You can get it to sound like a bit crusher. Gritty, loud and awesome.

It is really loud though, like fuck. You can see where I have the level on it.

>>72006288
Yo, you ever try flatwounds on mandolin? I saw some videos and they sound shockingly similar to rounds on mandolin. I figure less squeeky string noise for free is not too bad.

Also what mandolin is that?

>>72006313
As for the difference between the EQD fuzzes I think that JustNick has a video on them. I think the Dirt Transmitter was his favorite too.

>>72006288
I really hate that strat. why would you choose that color

>>72006596
I can't tell if it's sparkle or just a shitty photo with lots of noise. I really wish he would take a better picture if he's gonna spam.

What key, scales and chords should I use to compose a song to kill myself to?
Or at least to create a song that makes me want to kill myself while I listen

>>72006653
As a squire strat, it's probably not sparkle.

>>72006655
octotonic sounds like the sonic embodiment of suicide sometimes

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Anybody play an aluminum guitar or bass?

This is a 2007 Electrical Guitar Company Series One. For those unaware, the neck is carved from a single billet of aluminum and runs through to the bridge. The bridge and pickups are attached to it. The body is basically bolted to the neck instead of the other way around, making this the most resonant, alive-feeling guitar I've ever played. The neck is the thinnest I've ever seen. Looks like a fucking sword. It doesn't have a truss rod and will never need one.

The downsides:

Incredibly heavy, with a good amount of neck dive

Incredibly expensive (cheapest models go for $2000 used, MAYBE 1800 if it's beat to shit, with awesome models going for $6,000 new)

But good GOD I love this thing. If you have the means, I highly recommend it

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Full body of EGC

>>72006693
any /diy/ guys know how realistic it is to try to make an aluminum neck myself?

>>72006693
At the very least I do want to play it. Looks fun as hell.

>>72006655
B flat minor

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>>72006708
That's really sleek

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>>72006596
I like the colour, looks surfy asf.

>>72006336
Hmm I'll try that when I need to change the strings, seems like it'll sound nice

Also it's some cheap mandolin i got on eBay for like 60 quid, it's by rocketmusic

>>72006653
My phone camera is pretty Shit Lmao I would take a close up but the guitar ain't home rn

>>72006708
What kind of pickups are those?

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People do it, but it aint fuckin easy. There's a group on FB dedicated to aluminum axes and there's a dude that just made his own neck. There was a guy that started his own neck company called Bastin (or BGC) and he did full guitars too but then gave up. Apparently it's really fucking tough

Here's the neck with my tiny hand for scale. (why are my pics being rotated?? i am summerfag)

>>72004550
Its not "tenth-rate dadrock Eric Clapton jerkoff solos" you fucking pleb, its blues-based soloing, not Claptons original

Who here likes do gueetah noodlain

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>>72006776

EGC alnico-pole single coils. The main guy behind the company makes the pickups too. The knobs are 2 volume, 2 tone, one 3-way switch.

It's hard to compare the pickups to Jag or Strat pickups because the neck changes the sound so drastically, but they sound incredible on this. Apparently their humbuckers are really great too. People rarely switch out the pickups on these things.

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i can play scales all along the fretboard without even looking at it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U8qPR3PB9Q

this is such a shallow materialistic thread. i feel like you guys like the idea of buying and collecting cool instruments more than actually playing them.

how many people here actually makes music/plays in a band? how many of you are actually good at your instrument?

>>72006693
I don't like how they go out of tune and change relief when the temperature changes. I like how they look though. Maybe some day I will just paint a maple fretboard chrome before lacquer. Not sure how well that would actually work.

>>72006971
i am good >>72006966

>>72006810
Resizing your raw pics will stop it from doing that.

>>72006922
Killer, they almost look like JM pups to me. Can you post a clip of you playing it?

>>72006971
I make music and play in a "band"(just me and my friend who plays drums) but I can't tell you if I'm good or not. Probably not but I have loads of fun. I also don't have as much gear as many people here do.

There's 4 EGC guitars up on Reverb right now if anyone wants to see more. I was obsessed with these things for a while

https://reverb.com/item/3995535-2007-electrical-guitar-company-standard?gclid=Cj0KEQjwzpfHBRC1iIaL78Ol-eIBEiQAdZPVKsct9xdbd_Qvm1Pimu9dacbZxCmXFYqfV8MwhNokeMYaAiqf8P8HAQ&pla=1

Offset, also fucking gorgeous --> https://reverb.com/item/4763648-electrical-guitar-company-series-5-ken-andrews-signature-black-anodized-aluminum-finish-2016-black

Their "budget" model ---> https://reverb.com/item/4094167-electrical-guitar-company-tyranny-2015-titanium-anodize

Fucking gorgeous ---> https://reverb.com/item/4763820-2017-electrical-guitar-company-standard-pearl-white

>>72006810

Why such a fucking hype on aluminum guitars

>>72007022
Those are super pretty guitars. You can hit people with them too.

>>72006971
No one in these threads actually plays guitar. How fucking new are you?
Maybe one out of ten posters can play an Em chord cleanly.

>>72006971
Stop pretending that you're better than everyone else just to get some smug satisfaction. Stop complaining. If you actually talk about making music and playing the instrument, similar people will respond in kind. It's not that hard. Right now gearfags are mostly the ones talking.

/prod/ might be better for you since this place is a gear shitshow all the time. Only an idiot would come here for actual music discussion.

>>72007078
>How fucking new are you?
this is my first time posting in one of these threads. i just decided to because there's one in the catalogue every fucking day and it seems like a cesspool for rich consumerist posers

>>72006021
Bachata is cancer

t.colombian

>>72007133
I don't really like coffee that much

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>>72007131

>>72007133
Bachata is fun as fuck. I listen to 3 Joan Soriano albums at least one row every day

Colombian Vallenato is boring yokel stuff

>>72006971
>how many people here actually makes music/plays in a band? how many of you are actually good at your instrument?

you don't have to be good on an instrument to play in a band... it just helps to be good and know everything about music

i'm not so much into buying a lot of stuff, too poor to do that. what i spend most of my time on the interwebz is listening to different sounds and tones people can get from their instruments

you play in a band?

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>>72006993

I never have a problem with that, but maybe it's because I knew about it before I got one. Just gotta warm it up before you play or tune! It's really not bad at all.
(painting the neck chrome might look neat but it won't get the sustain from having the whole neck made from aluminum)

>>72007010
Thanks! I've taken it apart to clean the fretboard and fix the jack, maybe later today if I get around to it. But honestly, listen to any shellac song — this is kind of a copy of the Travis Bean that Steve Albini plays. Like so: https://youtu.be/9MLoY_zadsE?t=21

>>72007146
that wasn't meant to be bait

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>>72006810
>guitars made out of metal

is there any more ridiculous meme?

>>72007041

I read these threads all the time and I never see anyone talk about them

thought I'd contribute something unique that I enjoy

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Washburn makes me clean and hot if you know what I'm saiy'an

http://vocaroo.com/i/s03aiPfr7gNx

>>72007219
>i cant afford X so X is a meme
fuck off, no frogposting retards allowed

>>72007219

.muh toanwoods

>>72007176
>i'm not so much into buying a lot of stuff, too poor to do that. what i spend most of my time on the interwebz is listening to different sounds and tones people can get from their instruments

that's acceptable. i think the reason why all of this is rubbing me the wrong way is because i used to know a guy who spent thousands of dollars on cool top of the line music gear and then we tried to jam one time and he was absolutely awful.

>you play in a band?
i used to for several years

>>72007176
Hey dude, I'm not that guy but I'll record a cool sound that I've been getting out of my Jazzmaster. Just gimme a couple minutes.

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Guys aluminum necks have more sustain AND resonance.

So what's the consensus on the VM mustangs?

The new 2015 fender mustangs are shit and I don't want to spend £600+ on an older fender mustang

>>72007230
you're out of tune

>>72007280

I play in D#, but I did record that after I recorded some other guitar tracks that day as like an end of the day jam

>>72007224
theres even a facebook group to talk about aluminum guitars

whats so good about them? guys just like the looks? theyre very unstable and susceptible to temperature so i supposed theydnt be popular

>>72007277
thats useless
if you put a proper gibson toanbridge on a regular wood guitar it would have much more of those carachteristics

>>72007296
you dont check your tuning before recording another track?

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>>72007131
>this is my first time posting in one of these threads.
I'm sorry but you now have cancer... Seriously though, this is one of the worst/most mean spirited generals in the whole of 4chan.

>>72007329

My tuners are a pain to use (One constatnly flashes F or D until it finally picks up the string, regardless which guitar or sting it is, and the other doesn't pick up anything period sometimes) so I'll admit I only do it before I record. I need to get over it and do it more often or just get another tuner

>>72007386
Learn to tune by ear? Using harmonics makes it really easy and Bretty accurate

>>72007418

Well as long as one string's tuned enough, I know my way around the neck to play the note on another string, even another octave, and tune it by ear. If nothing's in tune, then I just get one string as close as I can by ear and tune the rest from there.

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Anybody ever play a Jersey girl guitar? I saw them at NAMM this year, and they seem really fuckig nice, but I didn't have a chance to hold it.

>>72007418
i (not that anon) cant do that cause end up losing the reference (440hz)

>>72007277

Hey I'm not AT ALL saying this thing is objectively better than anything else, just posting something I enjoy.

>>72007298

Honestly the thin neck is what I like the most (my hands are fat with short fingers). The sound/feel comes in at a close second. Honestly the stability is just fine (although I haven't toured with it, I do live in the north and shows I've played in the winter haven't been a problem. just gotta warm it up before you get onstage)

The next one I get will be an EGC 30" scale Bass VI (I normally play Bass VI). Gotta save up for a while tho

>>72007176
>>72007272
https://clyp.it/rleyp25i

Not anything revolutionary but I like to make my guitar sound like an old recording by holding the trem down slightly and modulating it while I play. No effects at all. I think it sounds really cool.

AmPro Jazzmaster into Fender Super Sonic.

>>72007481
Then get a tuning fork. Those will never let you down.

>>72007476

The thing looks nice, but it just makes me want to eat water melon and turkey over gravy. Idk if I can deal with that when I'm plucking

>>72007488

I dig it, maybe have a low overdrive or LOW distortion to make it a little crispy, just a little

>>72007507
>https://clyp.it/rleyp25i
That does sound cool! But the "old recordings" sound that way usually because they're using tremolo of some kind, usually with an amp that does it — like this: https://youtu.be/wiE7VGuufag?t=69

>>72007599
>I dig it, maybe have a low overdrive or LOW distortion to make it a little crispy, just a little

Did you mean to reply to me? Or are you saying I should do that with the Bass VI? (cuz I do love muh overdrive)

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>>72007599
I could go for some watermelon right now

One of their more contemporary designs

>>72007641
The guitar was titled "Franz the fox", the pickup is supposed to be shaped like a fox, with the bridge being the tail. I kind of like it, though I couldn't see it being played on stage

>>72007386
use a tuner vst on the daw youre using to record. if you use Reaper the built-in one (ReaEq) is very precise

>>72007516
how do that piece of metal works to get 440hz

>>72007641
woah. Is that just acoustic?

>>72007613
Totally, I wouldn't mind having a tremolux or vibrolux. I can get a similar sound with a little detune and tremolo effect but being able to adjust the amount of flutter on the fly is far more desirable.

I'm more trying to emulate a fucked up record or maybe some old tape as opposed to the comparable effect anyways.

>>72007476
wow that looks contemporary as fuck

i bet it feels very post-modern and liberal to play that abstract guitar

>>72007476
Goddamn I want to play that

>>72007694
The two eyes or nostrils or whatever on the foxes head are the pickup, it's a chambered body electric.

>>72007766
fucking crazy

>>72007732
you know what you're doin, carry on

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>>72006021
Hey guys. I'm trying to figure out the chords for a song. There's a chorus and a verse structure that's repeated 3 times, so all in all it shouldn't be much work. However, I'm having trouble. My ear ain't that good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq4SSlsZ_p0

I think the first line is

Am, Dm, C, E, Am
Two men walked on a beach in the sun
F, C...
One left footprints, the other left none

And I kind of lose it. I wonder if I'm totally wrong about the rest of it, because nothing sounds right. Would anyone mind giving the song a brief listen and letting me know if I'm on the right track?

>>72007638

The guitar could be a little more crispy, but it's good

>>72007641

saxy bist!

>>72007688

I use to do that in podfarm I think it was, but it wasn't right half the time, I could give it another try in reaper

>>72007507
>>72007613
good stuff. i was listening to the clip before i read the whole post and even then i thought your guitar had a old school delta blues vibe to it you know when they used to record on to those old cheap vinyls

from the clip yeah i thought he was using a tremolo pedal

maybe a big monophonic mic might help emulate that sound when recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0_eRVroLqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHAIgpih86E

keep it up anon

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Some more guitars from NAMM. I think these are Deimel Guitarworks.

Question: what do you guys use to record guitar or bass into your computer? Was thinking of getting a focusrite Scarlett, are these good? And for software, what do you use? Reaper? Can you record into biasfx or is it just amp emulators or whatever? I've been playing casually for about 2 years now, and I feel like doing some album making. Thanks.

>>72007809
>The guitar could be a little more crispy, but it's good

But I didn't post anything except pics, what are you talkin bout

how long did it take for you to get your first chord change smooth enough to play a song without fumbling all over? either in hours or days/weeks

starting to think i'm actually retarded :)

>>72007599
>>72007809
>>72007932
I think he's trying to reply to me. I agree that it could use some more bite. I wanted to record it totally clean though to get the technique across. Thanks!

>>72007864
Thanks anon. I will totally look into a mic. That would be a lot of fun to record and play around with. Hadn't even thought of it.

Love me some robert johnson.

>>72007958
It took like 3 days for me, but I had a little bit of bass experience beforehand. First song I learned on guitar was Wish you were here by pink floyd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieZL-plA7Xk

>>72007903
Woah those are some funky fender copies

>>72008016
oh its you again

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>>72007903
>those brown pickguards

>>72008083
It's anodized gold dumbass

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watch me noodling on my plywood strat w/ over-overwound pickups plugged to a 10w alien mars amp

https://youtu.be/Jkn8EE1AbvI

at 4:40 i do METAL WITH SINGLE COILS

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>>72008108
Who cares, it looks like shit anyway

>>72008149
the over-overwounds are there to make up for the plywood toanwood lack of tone

>>72007903
Before I got an interface and microphones, my dad bought me this bullshit Mustang amp, which is super weird not only because I'm in my fucking 30s, but also because I own a 4x10 Fender Deville and a 59 Bassman LTD and he's seen them. ANYway, I was just planning on returning this dumb little modeling amp when I noticed that it had a USB out. Not only that but you can download other amp models. Not only that but you can switch the cabinets on those amps, or have no cabinet at all. But the best thing was that you can record without a microphone, straight into your computer, listening to the track with headphones and with the amp speaker turned off.
Meaning I could record at my apartment at any time of day.

There's probably wayyy better options out there but jesus christ I was impressed with this cheap fucking thing. I think he got it for $100. And I think you could probably find one for $50 used.

>>72007959
Robert Johnson's recordings always sounded like they were done in huge room filled with echo

http://www.thecountryblues.com/op-ed/old-time-guitar-recording/

rumors said Johnson would face a corner why playing for reasons that seem to change depending on whom you speak with

i shouldn't have said vinyl because wax cylinders were used up till 1950

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=645dQwcIE5c

i like your recoding because you can actually hear the dynamics of your playing

>>72008198
Fuck you can record with a mustang?? My little brother has a mustang 3 in his room. It sounds good recorded through yea?

>>72007903
bass i plug directly to the onboard mic input
guitars i dont do that cause their output impedance is higher and sounds muddy that way. so i either plug them to the actual amp and mic it with a cheap dynamic mic (sm57 copy) or plug it to a bypassed multifx, to normalize the impedance, > computer input

>2 years
wow
ive been playing for like 5 years and only now i thought about making an album. and even then just a blues album cause i cant compose an actual entire song and lyrics

>>72008259
The Mustang comes with free recording software.

>>72008259
>>72008320

I used Garageband for a while and then Logic, so I know it works with those. Honestly it takes a while to dial in a great sound (a lot of the distortion stuff sounds good through the amp but on the recording sounds..."crinkly"?) Just sit there and dick with it until it sounds good. But DEFINITELY download the "Fender Fuse" software or whatever it's called cuz that's where you can really adjust everything. Plus the interface is a whole lot easier than trying to do it with the knobs on the amp

>>72008198
whats your mustang?

i thought they were cool amps for those exact reasons you liked it but around here theyre priced like handmade tube ampes
the cheapest one i found on a local site of here is the mustang mini and its like 170 usdollars
then some mustang i 20w at the 250 usd range

>>72008315
Ive written like 20 bass lines with nothing to put them to, so recording couldn't hurt. My guitar playing is really bad so I doubt it will have more than simple riffs, but I'm fairly confident on bass so I'm hoping that will shine through. You have any examples of stuff you've recorded that I can listen to?

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>>72008237
That's interesting to hear about his recording technique. I'll be recording music once I get back from vacation and I'm going to try out a bunch of different mic, amp and room placements.

My mic placement right now is pic related. Don't even have a stand.

>i like your recoding because you can actually hear the dynamics of your playing

Dude thanks, that means a lot. I'm always working on being more dynamic. I have a lot of room to improve.

>>72007507
>I like to make my guitar sound like an old recording by holding the trem down slightly and modulating it while I play

That sounded cool and sounded like old recordings

You can also achieve that effect with a Tape simulator VST that has a "Wow & Flutter" effect, which is what caused that on old recordings

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>>72008676
Yeah I've actually been looking into this sort of thing for convenience's sake. A plugin works great for recording but I would also like to get that sound live as well.

There aren't a ton of good options there... Best thing I can find is the el capistan because I can use it for more than just that. Most tape delays don't cut it (pedals not actual). Still searching though. Even stuff like the ZVEX lo-fi junky isn't quite right for me. It just sounds like a weird slow chorus/tremolo.

The main thing with pedal effects is that they are very consistent and tape imperfections are inherently inconsistent.

>>72008771
Cool

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How do people here feel about boutique instruments? Worth the money? Good to support smaller businesses? Should people just stick to gender and ibanez and schecter?

>>72007745
kek

>>72007131
Like the other anon said, this general is literal cancer.

>>72008849
I'll never get one myself by I appreciate and respect the craftsmanship.

>>72009010
*but

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>>72008420

Are you not in the US? The one I have is $120 new at GC and Sweetwater. Here's one for sixty fuckin bucks! ---> https://reverb.com/item/4535094-fender-mustang-i-amp-v-2-2013-black

>>72007131
>a cesspool for rich consumerist posers
>consumerist

mfw musicians don't build thier instruments out of their own toenails and used tampons

>>72009010
That's reasonable. Sometimes less well known luthiers sell instruments for like 800-1200 bucks, and I'm really tempted to just buy a bass to give it a try

How do you spray paint a guitar?

>>72009226
It won't stick

>>72008460
Oh yeah, an album with a proeminent bass would be cool

Stuff i have recorded is just random, short ideas. I'm putting them to folders separated by "vibe" and key so maybe one day i put them together to one song

I had uploaded half of the folder already and listed the links for a post but i mistakenly closed the browser and lost it. I'm doing it again

>>72009226
>>72009249
Strip it to wood, and use a sprayer (not a spray paint can, but the actual machine). You also use automobile paint, with a very heavy duty clearcoat over it. It's not an easy or cheap process tbqhfam

>>72009317
Lemme know when they're up famalam

is there a difference between muff and fuzz? or are those terms just different company's descriptions of the same thing (i.e., fuzz face, big muff)?

>>72009410

Muff fuzz is distinctly angular

>>72009399
Can i just upload the zip folder to anonfiles instead of uploadind each audio to clyp and listing them on a nice post

Good intermediate legato video? And maybe a alternative picking video?

>>72009499
do spider exercises with pullofs and hammerons and do it with regular alternate picking

>>72009482
Shore

>>72008460
>>72009399

I wrote this weird-ass drum beat that I can't seem to use for anything (probs cuz it's kind of unmusical). If anyone wants to use it go right ahead. Tempo is 220, but I'm sure it's all over the place

https://clyp.it/cay0wttc

>>72009537
upload your basslines first so if you steal my ideas i can steal yours too

>go to local guitar store to buy used interface
>see really thin guy playing shoreline gold strat
>it's a kline
>played cliffs of dover and under the bridge over and over again with some random funk, blues, and jazz mixed in
>"Froosh..?"
>get the presonus and speedwalk out

does anyone else live near a /mu/sician? i'm too much of a NEET to talk to anyone irl

if you still lurk here dude i was the guy that looked at the suhr next to you for a minute.

>>72009556
I'm in the car driving home to California from New York right now, probably be home Sunday. I'll upload some then haha

Is a Squier bass going to be total shit? I want to get into bass but I'm not serious to drop more than ~200 on one, and my first Squier Strat had such a fucked up neck that it was borderline unplayable

I'm looking for an acoustic guitar to start off with, heard Yamaha F310 is pretty good. Any other recommendations or should I just get it?

>>72009453
>Muff fuzz

Does that mean Muff is a type of Fuzz?

>>72009586
ok i'll be on /gg/ by then

>>72009570
I was once in a Guitar Center and some guy at the pedal rack was jamming the riff from Godspeed's Mladic, we exchanged what I can only describe as a nod of understanding

>>72009588
is borderline a buzzword now

>>72009588
Squire isn't bad honestly, I've seen good people go far with them. If not pick up like a used dean or schecter for that

>>72009551
It doesn't seem that unmusical. I'll try to use it when I get back


>>72009586
Is me

>>72009597

Muff fuzz is definitely a fuzz

>>72009551
how did you record it
sounds lofi yet very punchy

>>72009588
Dude the Squier Jaguar short-scale basses are actually OK, especially for $200 used. If you're ok with short scale that is (I personally dig it)

Which kind of Squier guitar did you have? The different types of Squier vary GREATLY in quality. The Affinities are trash. But there are higher-end squiers too — some are actually fucking fantastic, especially for ~ $400

Any drummer here has a electronic drumset that you can record midi with

>>72009728
hahaha yeah

the "punchy" is probably the rad mics someone lent me to record with

the "lo-fi" is probably the unfinished concrete basement I recorded in lol

>>72006971
I actually make music and have played in bands.

I get trash talked over the same shit any time I post
>7 strings
>ibenhad
>chinese shitplank
>peavey amps
>poorfag

I am ok, tons of better people out there. Ut I wonder how many here have been on an actual printed cd and not just a burnt cd of some bedroom jams.

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>>72007488
>he doesn't know resonance and sustain have an inverse relationship

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>>72009597
Muff means pussy, Big Muff =Big Pussy, and yes it's just a brand name the effect itself is a fuzz.

>>72009889

I didn't know that, actually — thanks for clearing that up!

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>>72006971
No, I only make clyp.it recordings. I'm too shy for soundcloud even.


https://clyp.it/user/vorxyaxc

>>72009746
why one wouldnt be ok with short scale bass

can this snappy bass sound be achieved with a shortscale?

https://youtu.be/vm8ZBhsUzOA

Was this guy trolling? >>71992261

>>72010025
Cool psychodelic playing

any tips for transcribing chords?
i can find the bass note easily but the extra bits are too hard

>>72010025
I really like 329, that shit is cash. Just make an "album" and throw that shit on Spotify man

>>72010080
you mean figuring chords by ear

>>72010084
Spotify, bandcamp or Itunes

>>72010084
thanks man, i've thought about it but I want to get better at recording first. I only got a new interface a couple of weeks ago after recording nothing for 10 years.

>>72010025
Maggot sounds very buckethead-esque to me, I can't figure out what song it's like, but I def hear it. Do you ever listen to him or is this just a coincidence?

>>72010116
well. . yeah

>>72010184
It's a cover of Maggot Brain by Funkadelic, Buckethead has worked with them so I'm sure he's covered it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKn33-q4Ao

>>72010026
Jesus Christ, why would you want to sound like that?

>>72010218
Fuck that's what I remember it from... honestly the cover sounded better than the original man

>>72010026
That is not my style of music at all but holy shit that guy is really good

Most bass players like the full 34" scale of a regular bass. The strings are a little looser on a short scale bass, but I like how compact everything is. It's not for everyone. The dude in DFA 1979 plays a short scale Dan Armstrong right now I think (at least he did on the latest album) and he gets a pretty fucking great (if very distorted) tone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad-m9453p6M

>>72010253
Cause i like it

And want to be gud like that guy

And to play that genre

And this genre too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=089IBvwf_pM

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if ya lissen to music other then ed sheeran im sorry

>>72010373
Time?

>>72010218
Colonel Claypools bucket of Bernie brains covered the song, that's what I was thinking of

>>72010427
wut

>>72010426
i don't think ive actually listened to him at all ima go try on youtube

>>72010373
First of all that sounds like shit, second of all you pretty much want 34" or higher scale for that sound. But if you add that much compression and canned screaming girls you should get close regardless. I really hate that sound but yeah it would be hard to get with short scale.

>>72006072
Should be called Dickensuckers

>>72010469
Sorry at first I thought it was a music competition because the music sounded like a game show

>>72010519
>>72010426
oh lol so that's what he sounds like huh? bit dissapointed.. not my thing..

>>72006722
If you have a cnc milling machine at hand and know how to work one, it's relatively easy

>>72007245
>>72007249
literally show me a metal guitar that sounds better than a wood one. in a recent /gg/ someone tried posting an aluminum guitar demo and it sounded like absolute trash

>>72009588
>Squier bass going to be total shit?
nah m8 if you buy the vintage modified you'll be good

>>72009597
>>72009718
different types of fuzz are based on the vintage tones from the early fuzzes like Tonebender and Fuzz Faces
http://www.coda-effects.com/2015/08/the-different-types-of-fuzz.html

The Muff just happened to be it's own thing because of the the lacks of mids to its tone it became distinguishable so people like to clone these pedals and so it's become popular to just say it's a muff styled fuzz

>>72009746
i have one too and it's awesome, although looking for new pickups for it. recently saw a fender mustang bass with a pickup selector between the p and j and i loved jamming with it might be my next buy.

>>72010373
Buy a fucking tuba

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>>72010373

Kek

I threw out a working fender frontman 15w. A 8w kustom with a semi busted input jack, and a non working amp with no branding, needed a fuse.

>>72010602
"better" is a matter of taste, some people like that shrill sound with lots of ringing overtones. The people that buy those guitars think this is the ideal guitar tone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikMB1CKztC4&t=3s

>>72010891
that shrill sound in the vid is not due to guitar its due to amplifier or whatever they did with the guitar signal

>>72010975
The guitar plays a part of it though, as retarded as it sound aluminum neck guitars do have a specific "metallic overtone" type of thing going on. It's only amplified by having a hollowbody aluminum body too.

A friend of mine has an EGC, I don't like it tbqh.

>>72010080
It shouldn't be too hard unless you're listening to quartal harmony or something.

Listen for the highest note, the melody note. Once you have that, if the chord sounds sad, try the flat third and flat seventh. If the chord sounds funky or bittersweet, try the major third and flat seventh. If it sounds cheery, try the major third and natural seventh. If it sounds mysterious and somewhat dissonant, try the flat third, flat fifth, and flat seventh.

Also when you're listening to a progression, try to keep track of which notes stay the same, and which move from chord to chord.

>>72009889
What the fuck? Are you saying Les Pauls have less resonance, thus less overtones?

>>72011043
Is that the reason Strats have that trebly sound, more like that vid you posted? Overtones?

>>72010080
>>72011047
Oh, and also learn to play chords and their inversions so you'll have an easier time finding them when you're looking.

Triads:

Major - 3 inversions
Minor - 3 inversions

If you want to get more in depth, also learn Diminished and Augmented triads.

Sevenths:

Major 7th - 4 inversions
Minor 7th - 4 inversions
Dominant 7th - 4 inversions
Half-Diminished - 4 inversions

>>72006072
poorfag here. one day i will

>>72009746
I got a regular strat (pretty much the lowest quality one but it wasn't Affinity or Bullet), was 150 at a local music store then they got all pissy when I asked them to set it up because "we would never sell a guitar with a neck that bowed".
I think it was one of the ones from a starter pack box thing, but without the amp.
Which is weird because my first acoustic came from a box and it's on par with a guitar three times its price, I've never felt the need to buy a better acoustic.

>>72011047
>>72011244
hmm
hmm
theory isn't fun. but thank you
i wish there was a big chart of all these chords or something..

>>72011429
There are charts but memorizing that shit is a waste of time. You need to eventually learn the chord formulas and understand how they're built or you won't get better.

>>72006288
Have you ever thought about replacing the pickups on the 330 with the Rickenbacker toaster ones? I really wanna do it for mine.

>>72011607
formulas?

Ravioli Ravioli Give Me the Forumuoli

can someone give me a good brand for electric guitar strings
probably ones that don't rust quick, hard to break, etc.

>>72011607
isnt it just like
>add semitone and it becomes another special chord
memorising all that is boring lol

>>72009137
>mfw musicians don't build thier instruments out of their own toenails and used tampons
there's a difference between buying a guitar because you want to play guitar and buying 5 top of the line customized guitars because buying stuff makes you feel fulfilled.

>>72011697
Stringjoy are custom made and amazing quality for cheap, a little more expensive and mainstream are the new Ernie ball paradigm strings, they're borderline unbreakable

>>72011607
but actually i was joking please show me where i can learn this
what do i need to learn?? how do i learn how chords are made??
i've done that theory website in the op and i get that there are steps which make the chord but where from here?
i would really like to be good at chords.

>>72011742
There's a difference between buying stuff to feel fulfilled and buying a customized guitar because music is your passion or profession, and you want to be able to perform at maximum capability.

Will a multi fx pedal work well with a Vox AC15vr?

Keep in mind i'm broke and this kind of stuff is expensive af in my country

>>72011697
i've never broken a d'addario string desu

Anyone here happen to conveniently have a Mesa MK2C+ schematic lying around? Or has the amp and is able to draw one? The ones on the web are samples and/or inconsistent

>>72011926
i never did too but they rust out pretty fucken quick

Surprisingly easy. I used to be terrified of JP's guitar playing but now I can do some of his stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mJmJ6PpGzI&t=1m25s

>>72011970
do they? maybe i don't have wet hands idk

>>72012035
yeah i just like jammed for 1 hour then the next day i can already feel it rusting
perhaps i need to chill while playing

>>72012082
Ernie ball paradigm is rust proof

>>72011768
How are they in the aspect of rusting and grabbing dirt

>>72011806
what about buying five?

>>72011848
sure, get one that doesn't have amp sims like the Line 6 m9

>>72012114
and i heard they're unbreakable too
prety cool

starting to realise that all tabs online are made by south american kids who are really bad at guitar

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>when you get gud at improvising and then knowing all your favorite solos note-for-note is no pride anymore

>>72012163
Paradigm dont at all
>>72012164
Some people like to collect guitars, I have 6 guitars, 2 of which I made myself. Some people spend a ton of money on shoes, some on cars, why diss guitars? They aren't any different

>>72012165
Alright, will check it out, thanks mate

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>>72011429

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>>72011429
Middle

>>72012288
that's pretty cool thanks

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>>72011429
Drop 3

>>72012362
what does the b mean?
what does drop 3 mean?

>>72012396
The b means "flat."

Drop 3 chords are built by taking the 3rd highest note in a closed position chord and lowering it by an octave.

This is how drop 3 chords get their name, because the 3rd note in a closed position chord has been “dropped.”

>>72012470
hmm i see

what is the significance of showing the b above the tab though?

>>72012274
Whats Paradigms deal? Its stainless?

>has a specific beat pattern of 3-3-2; in other words, when counting beats you will want to count 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2

Is it really the tempo division or just the accentuated notes? Cause 3+3+2 sums up to 2 bars of regular 4/4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mc-APBm5iM

>>72012587
Everything in theory gets compared to The Major Scale as a template. The Major Scale is a 7 tone scale and the scale degrees are numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

So if a chord is constructed as 1, b3, 5, b7, then you should start with the major scale as a base template and find the 1, 3, 5, and 7. Then lower the 3 and 7 a half-step.

Make me stop fearing the arpeggio word

>>72012609
It's steel, but the fibers are a lot smaller and plasma fused together, they're like practically unbreakable, sound good, and have a 30 day warranty just in case

>>72012664
hm okay i see thanks
i get what the tab is saying now

>>72012692
>never break
>never rust
Whats a reason not use them?

>>72012688
You know what a chord is? Now play all the notes BUT ONE NOTE AT A TIME

>>72012718
Arpeggios = triads?

>>72012271
I've made several accurate tabs myself using Transcribe! (and a lot of time). I won't upload them because those fuckers wasted my time with their shit tabs.

>>72012692
They do break. They're only like 18% stronger than normal strings, although that's enough for most people. I know they wear out like other strings, but I don't know if they sound better for longer. I think the warranty is 90 days.

>>72012727
A triad can be an arpeggio. An arpeggio isn't necessarily a triad.

An arpeggio is the notes of a chord played individually. It doesn't matter if the chord is a C Major Triad, or a Bb Dominant 7 Sharp 5, Flat 9. You find out what the notes are in the chord and stack them alphabetically and play them one at a time.

>>72012798
Got it. Thanks.
https://clyp.it/2ztwehcc

How to bar with the pinky
I can only by pressing the ring finger over it

how fucking gay is classical guitar lmao

>>72013083
but why

>>72013083
When do you need to do that on more than 2 strings ever?

>>72012707
There isn't one as far as I see

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>>72010025
actually some cool shit

>>72012795
Yeah its 90 days. My little local store is getting them in at the end of the week so it's time to try them out.

>>72012795
I think their selling point was 35% stronger. I was a "beta tester" for them, and had nothing but good experiences. The 90 day warranty is just icing on the cake; after like 70 days find a way to break one and sent it in for a free set, rinse and repeat

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>>72013104
To play the 9 fret part on this

Would be cool on power chords too

>>72013180
Roll the finger. Don't barre. The notes are to be played individually.

>>72013255
Why you so serious writing with period marks

>>72013313
I use different writing styles depending on my mood.

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>>72013353
What mood are you right now bb

>>72013382
Horny

>>72013524
into twinks?

>>72013382
I feel like I'm having a

https://youtu.be/2uP0PtBurno

>>72013540
No. Traps exclusively

Is there something easier than to compose metal instrumentals? Actually full songs cause the lyrics part you just put something cheesy about dark themes like death and pain

>pick up a mode or key
>pick up a palm mute rhythm
>include dissonant stuff like b5 and b6
>maybe make some riffs to play between the chords at some parts
>make a melodic section with another guitar playing the third, à là Iron Maiden
>??????

>>72013755
I'm seriously thinking of recording original metal

>>72013755
I might do this and post results just to see how right you are.

>>72013921
I am 100% right
Pls pick a keyword so i can ctrl+f on the next /gg/s to find your production

>>72013964
I'll post a screencap of your post. I'll keyword it 'Anonsong'.

>>72011401
If you bought it new in a starter pack for 150, it was probably an Affinity.

>>72010602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaI2aWyWidE
Dunno about "better than a wood one," but this sounds pretty great to me. Your ears must really suck dude. Have you seen a doctor?

>>72013755
This is how you get royalty-free-youtube-background-music-core
If it's easy to do chances are it will suck or at least be totally lifeless

>>72014056
Have you ever tried

btw show an example of youtube-background tier and actual metal tier

>>72013091
The only gay here is you, fag.

Hows this for 5 years of guitar and how to improve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkn8EE1AbvI

I'll join a band as a bassist. Now i'm officially a frustrated guitarist

>>72014184
Reminder to never give samuel any views

>>72014312
I'm a frustrated bassist. I'll join any band as a guitarist

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They sound gud but give too much pick noise, makes dark spots on strings, and feel bad unless youre picking perfectly paralel with the strings

>>72014421
How you can be a frustrated bassist if bassists are in demand

>>72014451
Because I'm moving cross country so I had to leave my current band that I was very happy with.

>>72014314
nah i think he deserves it, hes a cool poster

>>72007121
/gg/ emotional coaching

Angus Young was good?

>>72010426
>other then

other when?

>>72010426
>Loving can hurt
What a faggotry
Only LGBT listen to that

>>72015260
/gg/ was originally a m2m general

>>72015260
that why its number 1 song on spotify for last 3 month?

>>72015292
Yes, exactly

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>>72011793
I saw that some other anons have been answering this as well and they are also correct. The charts that were posted also have this information kind of.

The chart I have posted here contains the formulas I mentioned. I haven't checked it to see if it's right I just googled it real quick. It might not mean much now depending on how much you know of theory already, but you can use this to make almost every chord you want or could ever want.

I'm going to work with the major scale here.

The formula is some set of numbers 1-7. These correspond to the notes of the key. So say we're doing key of C.

The notes are C, D, E, F, G, A, B.

C is 1, D is 2, E is 3 and so on.

So for a C major chord (Formula 1 3 5) the notes we need are C (the 1), E (the 3), and G (the 5). You then make a chord using those notes. Different ways of arranging these notes are called voicings.

That's the basic idea behind it anyways.

>>72015379
I forgot to mention it's very helpful and encouraged to start this while looking at chord charts too. It's strange to arrange a chord this way at first but you get the hang of how they're supposed to go.

just had a like 8 hour guitar session, because im a neet right now

but i just wondered why im spending my time doing this
sure i could get really good
but why, im not the sort of person to go out and join a band and use this hobby for more than self enjoyment

i just feel empty now

>>72015452
Buy more pedals

>>72015452
Take a break then. I get tons of self enjoyment from playing, if you aren't getting that you need to stop for a while. If you come back and still don't get anything from it then find something else to do.

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Can I modify this button from a fightstick to be a killswitch?

>>72010025
righteous

>>72015379
>>72015444
that's really cool thanks

however most major chords have more than just three notes, would they just be repeats? for example two C notes?

also how do you make a dominant 13, im sure you can't get 7 different notes on a guitar?

>>72015512
yeah bunkethead has his arcade button like that

>>72015379
>some set of numbers 1-7

Also just realized I didn't touch on anything past 7. 8 is the octave so it is just C again.

Past 7 there are no new notes you are essentially just playing one of the original notes an octave up. This is where you get the rest of the numbers you see up to 13.

I'm very forgetful today...

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>>72015544
Yes you are correct that most chords have multiples of notes.

Let's take the C major bar chord for example, that is a very common chord. You can see that we have 6 notes being played. Let's go from the 6th string up to the 1st. The root note is a C. The note on the 5th string is a G. The note on the 4th string is a C again (the octave). The note on the 3rd string is an E. 2nd String is a G and 1st string is another C.

As you can see the only notes we have played are C, E, and G. We just played some of them multiple times at once like you said. This is why you can take notes away and still keep the identity of a chord.

>>72015616
See my post here for an explanation of the dominant 13. You are essentially adding the 2nd, 4th, and 6th notes played up an octave to get the 9th, 11th, and 13th. That might have been confusing, but you can just keep counting up with your notes to 13. From C that would be an A.

>>72015850
so triads are basically just major and minor chords? (or sus2, sus4, or even augmented or dimished)

so are triads just the chords that only need three notes?
but add duplicates, like the C major chord, and it isn't a triad anymore?

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Put a new neck on my bass today. MIM Fender 50's reissue neck on my Roger Waters Signature body, thing plays like a dream again. Also has that early 60's look I wanted with the reverse tuners. Pic related next to my new favorite amp rig: 1973 Sound City 200 Plus into a 1968 Traynor "Big B" 8x10. Sounds Massive

>>72015544
Just checked what you were talking about with the 7 notes in the dominant 13. The chart is wrong, it shouldn't have a 9 or 11 in the formula. At least that's how I was taught. I'm not sure why it was included here. Looks like a mess of a chord.

Like I said, I didn't check to see if it was totally right when I googled it lol.

>>72015975
na that's great it really condenses the ideas of theory for me

>>72015922
Basically. Some chords are triads. It refers to being made of 3 notes. That is inevitably going to be 1 3 5 or something very similar (the sus chords in which the 3 is swapped with a 2 or 4). As soon as you add another note like a 7, it is no longer a triad.

The C major chord is a triad. C Major 7 is not.

>72016044
Dude no problem. Most of this stuff isn't too complicated, music teachers just suck ass most of the time. It takes a long time to gain mastery of the material though. Just having these formulas and playing with them is a great way to sound WAY better really fast.

I've been used to playing acoustic all the time so I normally sit down when I play. I'm trying to play electric standing up with a strap right now, however, and I can't hit the chords. It feels like my wrist position is bad and it hurts the shit out of my hand and also makes me sloppier and a little slower overall.

How can I fix my form? Should I have the guitar a little higher?

>>72016143
Put it wherever is most comfortable desu. I play mine pretty high up.

>>72016120
Is there use of tridas on this video? >>72014184

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Why the fuck are Steve via guitars so expensive?

>>72016210
Yes he does use some triads. Easiest one to spot was an E major chord early on. I totally suck at looking at someone elses playing and going "hey that's G Major 6/9" though. He's mostly using the chords as a baseplate to improv from. Why?

>>72016274
So its good to solo based on chords?

>>72016120
okay finally, can i ask how you would go about figuring a chord by ear? do you find it easy?

>>72016211
Kinda like why Gibson and Fender as so expensive despite being shitty guitars. You're paying for the name

>>72006072
Yes, just restrung my 330 with flatwounds.

>>72016310
If you just play a scale and nothing else, you are going to sound boring. So adding in chords is a good way to change it up and add some pizzazz during a solo. You don't want to just go back and forth awkwardly between chords and notes.

Knowing which notes are in which chord is a great way to streamline that transition in a solo. It makes it much easier to add a melody on top of the bare bones of a chord. or to forego chords completely but keep that tonal identity by only playing the notes of whatever chord you want to evoke. Knowing the intervals is very important.

See example below

>>72007507

This is actually me playing this. It's an example of using chords as a basis for a melody. Not a solo but it's a nice simple example. I play a C major 7 chord and G major 7 chord back and forth. I have my pinky free so I can play a melody over it. The notes I picked are the other notes in the key. So I'm essentially playing a bunch of different chord voicings back to back but it sounds good and I don't have to move more than a single finger to get that sound. This style makes it very easy to transition back and forth between chords and notes for a solo.

The video you linked is basically the same thing but he goes off on more musical tangents before coming back home to a chord.

>>72016339
To be honest I suck at this. I don't do a lot of copying other players so I haven't practiced it enough. That said, every chord has a distinct sound. As you practice them, you'll learn to recognize them. Then it's just a matter of finding the key you're in.

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>>72016211
>Steve Via

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>>72016513
fucking kek

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>>72016513
>>72016211
>tfw no Stevia guitar

>>72016635
Great, now I know what I'm gonna have to paint on the bass I made :/

>>72015512
How the hell do you install these fuckers? On mine there were red and white wires that were supposed to solder to the volume pot,but all I got was buzzing so I gave up

>>72016651
>you
>having to explain why the design on your bass is NOT a marijuana

how do i count the guitar part in weird fishes i always get confused

>>72016513
You know what? Vai probably does use stevia because he's a scumbag purist hippie who does fasting and yoga and shit

>>72015958
i'm jelly

loving that rig and bass set up

how's the 50's style neck treating you? been wanting to replace my p bass with a new neck and it's between that 50's style and a jazz. i mean i've played a jazz before so that's why i'm asking about that 50's neck cause i've never played one... is it a fatter/thicker c neck with wide frets?

>>72016657
google brought these guys up. they have diagrams.

http://tesiswitch.com/about

>>72016713
yeah, the 50's neck is def bigger than a jazz but very comforable. I bought this one from stratosphere on eBay for like $340, it was def a good investment and saved me some money since i considered just selling my p bass and getting a new one

>>72016706
It's basically arpeggios played as triplets over a 4/4 beat. So you could count it as a quick "1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3" accenting the "1" each time. I wouldn't recommend trying to count by 4s because of the sheer repetitiveness of the triplets reinforces the 1-2-3 counting over the drums. It kind of sounds like an attempt to superimpose a 3/4 guitar line over a 4/4 drum part, but idk for sure. I'm not great with analyzing rhythms.

>>72016862
thanks

>>72016704
I could play sublime and nobody would be the wiser.

whats the last guitar you buy before ww3?

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>>72017502
My fretless Spectorcore I bought almost 2 years ago. I have all my bas(s)es covered so I'm not gonna get a new one anytime soon.

I feel like /mu/ should have a thread similar to talkbass classifieds. Does anybody have any thought or critisism to this?

>>72016845
thanks for the insight

>>72017687
>wanting to do business with anyone that posts on this shithole

yeah lets do it.

>>72017728
I've bought a set of pickups from somebody here lol, that worked out fine.

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>>72017764
I cumed on them before I shipped them out