What else is there?

Dubstep

Also, Americans don't know what IDM is.

ADM (Art Dance Music)

>>71983073

sounds gay

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>>71983030
>Burial
>Next to ravers and below Deadmau5

What the fuck am I looking at?

Musique concrete
EAI / Onkyo
Turntable / tape music
Electronic rock crossover
Ambient
Hip hop
Dub
Downtempo / Chillout
Chillwave / Vaporwave / Internet genres
Techno
House
UK Garage
Trance
Breaks
Drone
Noise
Industrial
EBM
Synthpop

>>71983089
Which one is more punchable?

>>71983156
Burial is dance music just like Joel and Daft Pleb and played in UK clubs, whats the problem?

>>71983164
Art music
>Musique concrete
>EAI / Onkyo
>Turntable / tape music

Rock
>Electronic rock crossover

Both/crossover
>Ambient
>Drone
>Noise
>Industrial
>EBM
>Synthpop

EDM
>Hip hop
>Dub
>Downtempo / Chillout
>Chillwave / Vaporwave / Internet genres
>Techno
>House
>UK Garage
>Trance
>Breaks

>>71983189
Literally what the fuck are you talking about

Burial was played in obscure dubstep basements for maybe a year and now occassionally by Flying Lotus at his live shows, that's fucking it.

It's not danceable. If you group Burial in with those hacks you should honestly fucking kill yourself immediately

>>71983280
>not danceable
Pleb detected

>>71983280
>It's not danceable.

lol dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGkiUULeDrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYOkaOU1T0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCzJQRVbWtE

No, America only really knows about EDM

If you lived here you would know until like 2010, when dubstep happened, most people in America had a view of electronic music as some gay techno shit that French fags listened to while humping each other. Even with the dawn of EDM no other types of electronic music have gotten very big. And, chances are if someone actually knows about IDM they also know about European things like garage and jungle

>>71983280
wew pardners

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>>71983089
God i wish those fags will die.

Every fucking song sounds the same

Each time i hear songs from them i get a ptsd

>>71983366
The UK isn't very large, it shouldn't be considered representative of mainstream club trends. It's like the size of Oregon and has what, 60 million people? It's basically an underground scene compared to the USA, what a joke

>>71983406
>country size is relevant

brb, buying Adidas tracksuit and listening to awful d&b

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>>71983506
Why are they so obsessed with Adidas?

90's psytrance is patrician

>>71983030
both of them are shitty umbrella terms so if you really want they can apply to anything
but that's retarded because they describe absolutely nothing about the music

A lot of people equate 'electronic music' in their heads to whatever retarded monstrosity EDM is. Dunno if it's just Americans, I'm Irish and they love that bullshit here too. Very few people I'm around would know what IDM even means

>>71983030
Mumblerap

>>71983178
One on the right has more nu-malesque features (glasses, hair, facial expression)

>>71983567
Same reason the rest of the world is obsessed with Nike, culture dictates

>>71984835
>nu-male

Where did this dumb buzzword come from?

>>71983280
>obscure dubstep basements

>>71983406
this. They've contributed nothing to EDM scene.

>>71985922
Of course not because that is exclusively American EDC/Ultra shit, England doesn't produce EDM at all.

>>71986227
is it all IDM?

>>71986405
No, theres techno, house, breaks, trance, garage and downtempo music then lots of subgenres.

EDM is only music played/produced by DJs who perform at Ultra and/or Electric Daisy Carnival or shitty festivals in the Netherlands.

>>71986445
lmao youre either really fucking retarded or completely new

>>71986445
That's all EDM stupid

>>71986557
No, they aren't you silly pardner.

>>71983089
The guy on the right looks like a cartoon duck with no beak. Both their mouths are really close to their noses actually, are they related?

Don't you fuckers get it?

The entire genre of electronica is commercial, all electronica is EDM, as it's objectively inferior/cheaper music. It's our degenerate plebeian /mu/ that has tried to make us believe EDM is an "essential" genre and that if you don't like it you must be "narrow-minded", a "rockist" who listens exclusively to "twings and twangs" and there's probably some racial element to it too. EDM music has no staying power. All of EDM is just a neo-disco sub-genre of top-40 pop, with a "mechanical" paint job. This music doesn't stand the test of time, it's a fad. That's why EDM producers are discussed about like fashion. Image/fashion/numbers sold are actually considered when talking about them. EDM is just a really cheap/lazy form of music anyways. The majority of EDM beats are just stealing (MUHH "SAMPLING") another artist's music, looping it over a generic drumbeat while someone throws preset synths over it. The "technical aspects" of EDM are not hard at all. That's why there's 14 year old white girls on YouTube uploading themselves mixing with ease and speed, dropping polyrhythms like it's nothing. But because they don't fit the image of a "EDM fan", no one would take seriously. I've listened to it all from backpacker shit like Basic Channel and Deepchord to the "golden days" of Derrick May and Frankie Knuckles to revival stuff like Mall Grab and Delroy Edwards to the 90s with 4hero and Omi Trio to the CLT approved Mouse on Mars and Autechre to today like DJ Rashad and DJ Spinn. All electronica is EDM. All of it. Stop spamming it. Either keep it contained into one threads or request a containment board. I'm sick of coming on /mu/ and seeing a million DJ Rashad threads (none of which are about music btw).

>>71983030
>The general public who don't have a strong interest in music don't understand electronic music very well
Shocking revelation OP, you really showed me.

>>71987124
The same is applicable for 90% of this board too

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>>71987105
What do you think of him?

>>71983089
Burn the fucking chainsmokers. Steve Aoki made the biggest mistake to put out a song like #Selfie into existence. These fuckers have more success then anyone who actually puts more EFFORT in their music. Posij, bad company (DnB), DC breaks, prolix, noisia, mefjus, and ivy lab are miles ahead yet get little to no recognition

>>71983280
Anythings danceable if there's a beat. You know why excision grew? Because he breaks people's necks from how stupid they act. It's a way of getting rid of idiots.

They act like head banging is good yet some of these guys are leaving with sore or even broken necks

>>71983755

recs?

>>71985452
/pol/

>>71983207
You don't fucking dance to downtempo faglord.

>>71983755
Truth to these words

>>71983755
psy and goa completely bang, but there is allot of shit in these genres as well.

>>71988351
ahhh

>>71988500
whats goa?

>>71983089

They barely even make dance music anymore, Paris and The One are just pop songs with a dance music back-drop. It's not the worst pop music out there, it's fairly tasteful, if bland and derivative.

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Everyone is too focused on the butt electronic music called EDM to realize america invented vapor wave, witch house, seapunk and have been making the freshest electronic music while the bleep lads are all >muh jungle

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>noise

>>71988500
Same could be said of literally any genre.

>>71983030
Fuck....I hate ravers

>>71983280
How the fuck do you not dance to Raver?

>>71988921
>vapor wave, witch house, seapunk

Which are objectively awful.

>>71989299
Listening to headphones and Imagining yourself dancing under a bridge in a futuristic distopia is not the same as jacking the speakerbox in a real life current day club

>>71990797
You can say that for any album

>>71988299
Found the butthurt dnbfag

/s

desu I agree with you Posij, Noisia, and Mefjus are legit af

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>>71983755
Absolute fucking truth.

Man With No Name
Astral Projection
Hallucinogen
Transwave

also the legit trippy album covers

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>>71991047
I'm not butt hurt, but it ashames me that music that is clearly much more talented and developed isn't played on the radio here. Just the chainsmokers and Zedd, who are Shit.

But I find it funny how these idiots thing that drum and bass is "too repetitive" yet they'll listen to closer 15 times in a row and say it's "Amazing!"

>>71986445
>Edm only played in those places
>Implying it isn't always on the radio in some way


I hate it, but it's insane how it all stemmed from daft punk at coachella.

>>71983030
Burial is IDM

>>71991104
No I agree with you idk if you saw the
>/s
part.

Some parts of DnB may be repetitive but it's got a multitude of pretty awesome sub-genres and artists that want to push the sound to new levels and creativity. Being like DJ Fresh and criticizing the scene and how it's not creative doesn't help. Artists like Noisia and Mefjus continue to make new and different stuff. Hell even some Hospital artists are starting to make newer stuff and styles.

>>71991165
No, Burial is garage.

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>>71991230
Agreed. I'm glad that bad company is back, and maybe pendulum, but the genre is evolving well. Urbandawn, signs, machinecode, hybris, mefjus, and Billain prove to amaze, and those outer edges remixes are going to be incredible.

If anything, techstep needs to return. Stuff like ram trilogy, 1998 ed rush and optical, and bad company's original stuff

>>71991272
Then listen to moody good

Don't you have any sort of dance music radio in America like England have had since the late 80s pirate radio stations of Radio Caroline and Kiss.fm?

>>71991320
Sirius XM 54

It's basically the ebin house music that is still mainstream of sorts, and it's decent

>>71988328
see >>71991102

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TDdN_ARBAI

>>71988903
It's basically future bass, and it's a terrible genre that came from monstercat. If monstercat never released alone, it would be amazing. It's the worst song on that label.

>>71991272
>Burial is garage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBj9fcFqHQ

This ain't garage

>>71991532
yea, it is

>>71991532
This is garage

https://youtu.be/kJYaMERaNV8

>>71991552
Explain you dumb pardner. How does that sound anything like garage at all? Just because Burial made it doesn't mean its automatically garage. His sound isn't representative of the genre as a whole.

>>71991583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Bg4BndAbw

this even more so

>>71991606
This isn't garage
It's too pop sounding

>>71983030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvjG13Q3kSg

There's a few brilliant artists that defy classification. Case in point.

I saw this teaser this morning and about peed myself. I'm secretly happy the pretentious electronic music crowd hasn't picked up on it yet.

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>>71991606
Original is better. But this is pretty good. Moody good is one of the best producers so few talk about.

>>71991583
this is the trademark garage sound

>>71991606
this is not garage at all

>>71991672
>There's a few brilliant artists that defy classification

90% of bleeps & bloops aren't ''EDM'' or ''IDM'', they're dumb classifications that mean absolutely squat like ''electronic music''.

>>71983353
This right here.

I was going to lots of underground raves in Chicago around that time and it was amazing to watch everything change. I wasn't really into the music, moreso there for the party. But anyway before dubstep broke out and Skrillex became mainstream, it was tons of art school kids and other burnouts at these raves and the crowd was almost all regulars where the parties get going around 3am. Most of the people there really knew the DJs and the music.

Then all of a sudden all the music festivals like Bonnaroo had DJs headlining instead of jam bands and Rothbury music fest in MI became Electric Forest or some shit. Underground raves became a mix of the old crown and the normies who show up at 11pm and go home at 2am by the time the old crowd is showing up. Got more dubstep over the speakers and less house and the reggae type stuff was really coming around right about the time I stopped going to the raves (2012 or 2013?).

I'm American and not huge into techno or whatever and I still kinda refer to all of it as EDM.

>>71991872
I blame skrillex for messing up dubstep, but I guess it has to be zomboy. Terror squad ruined originality in dubstep for good.

is this garage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4eMyOzD9UI

>>71991900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwfWSX0FYlI

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>>71991928
Good old rusko. He's good to be honest. Miss when there were wubs in dubstep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6pTSGvp7T8

still best dubstep

>>71991606
>2-step mix

>>71983030
What about
Chicago
Detroit
Baltimore
New Jersey?

>>71991968
so what?

>>71992005
2-step isn't garage

>>71990921
Disco is danceable music
Chicago House is danceable music
Detroit Techno is danceable music
Berlin Techno and the variants of electronic music inspired by it IS NOT DANCEABLE MUSIC

Burial is literally head bob music inspired by danceable music

>>71992086
All music is danceable and head bobbable

>Burial is literally head bob music inspired by danceable music
Its fucking Croydon sink estate chav music

>>71992114
>All music is head bobbable
fify

>>71992136
head bobbing is technically dancing

>>71992029
This. It's more like its own genre. Think jungle but much slower and without the drums

>>71983030
>no calvin harris/afrojack/tiesto/marshmello
>no spinnin records / UMF / lollabalooza
your image is outdated

>>71983280
maybe not danceable, but definitely grooveable. I kinda sway my head to it ya know?

>>71992263
This. You forgot to put the "ebic" chainsmokers

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Drum and bass is pretty good

Check out this album

>>71991964
Sounds like something from Runescape top kek

>>71983030
BoC are downtempo

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>>71992339
Great dnb album. Check this one out too!

>>71992254
>>71992005
2-step created garage

2-step came from chopping jungle/D&B breaks at actual bpm on an MPC and retriggering them on a sequence at half speed (eg "2 steps" per measure instead of 4 steps)

Garage formed from other producers hearing those shuffling/off-time hits, and not knowing how they were originally created, and tried creating them within a standard step sequencer on drum machines.

>>71992403
Break is a pretty good artist. But I seriously want that album re released. It has some of the best songs the BB have made, like goodburger and paperchase

>>71992438
Agreed.

Fav songs off the album has to be Paperchase, Good Burger, Not Just Yet, Warcry, Corpse Bride, The Big Blue, and Daybreak.

To me they're essential summer dnb tunes as well as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfRiMAsWjtk

>>71992530
Speaking of summer, that fucking outer edges remix package is sick!

Amon Tobin, phace, mefjus, machinedrum, moody good, bassnectar, mat zo, ivy lab, Camo and krooked, teddy killerz, and roly Porter. Plus that fantastic rival consoles remix.

Summer will be a good one

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You're a very pretty anime girl and you have to marry one of Autechre's lads. Judging parameter: personality.
Who do you choose?

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>>71983280
>obscure dubstep basements

I love this board so fucking much. Fucking hell I love this board so fucking much.

>>71992741
This board expects you to know what "dubstep" is, and if you post excision or eptic, they'll thing is the false thing. It's still dubstep, regardless.

>>71992774
>this board expects you to know what "dubstep" is

Why wouldn't anyone know?

>>71992984
I'm talking about the grime and stuff that /bleep/ listens to. I'm fine with dubstep minus the braindead followers. But here, the board acts like you must be a idiot for following it

>>71993020
The majority of this board are clueless retards spamming the same rock albums of an 8 year old chart and FotM Fantano hyped shite, ignore everyone.

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>>71993065
This, but there are some good songs posted on this board. But these are literal "what?" Albums that probably 1000 people bought at their indie band camp store

Pic related is a 10/10 album this board doesn't know

I don't get how all the white kids here spam rap and trap then hate on or ignore dance music, do people really need lyrics over the tunes or something?

>>71993153
Yes do you know how many people refuse to listen to music if there are no voices over it? Shitloads.

People don't need lyrics, just voices and words.

>>71983030
I'm American, I grew up listening to industrial, though during the 1990s and 2000s, it was overwhelmed with techno and trance, and I did have some friends that were into techno.

When most of the people that I know here think of electronic music, they think of "rave culture" etc.

Underground French Hardocre from late 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_eLZ55uHKg

>>71983406
>>71983506
>>71983567
Gopniks and Chavs are an example of convergent evolution.

>>71993212
America did have some good DJ's, especially in drum and bass. Ewun, diselboy, Karl k, evol intent, and gridlock

>>71993212
>when most of the people that I know here think of electronic music, they think of "rave culture" etc.

That explains a lot about this board. Wish there was a Euro chan.

>>71993243
>>71993304
America also had shitloads of good industrial.

I mean the well-known names are English, but there is a fucking lot of good American industrial, it affected the US more than it did the UK, even one of the founders of the genre was American and gave it its name.

>>71993370
I mean, look at ewun. His sound is something that is just like his current alias, kill the noise. Drum and bass was almost even better in America then europe, but now it's evident that Europe has more talent and prowess

>>71991953
I'm >>71991872 and Rusko I think is the only electronic artist I follow on FB.

When it started coming up, it was Rusko (and I think he does shit with Caspa?), Excision & Datsik, and Flux Pavillion. At least those are the few I have on Pandora from real long ago.
Rusko was still real young back then and Flux was a kid. "Gold Dust" was my jam.

And tbqhwy, I still don't really like any electronic shit but that Major Lazer album with all the songs on the radio nonstop, that was a really good record. Diplo seems like a cunt and the metalfags will argue that these dudes have no talent but I think Diplo is one of the most talented and creative "artists" out of any current media.

>>71993423
Until like EDM became fully co-opted, it was an underground thing here.

>>71993243
>>71993304
>>71993423
I neglect to mention the influence of Hip Hop also. Hip Hop influenced motherfucking everything involving electronic music in the US.

>>71993445
I think you should listen to noisias latest album. It does have some creativity and the sounds are almost surreal. There's the typical sounds like anomaly and exavolt, but then there's some insane songs like voodoo, miniatures, vigilantes, and sinkhole.


Rusko, Excision and datsik, and flux are the true dubstep innovators before skrillex, but they still make some good music. Rottun is sadly defunct at this point, but circus and firepower have been doing well.

Major lazor is decent, but I'll admit that they have a ear worm like sound. Lean on is a guilty pleasure even if it's terrible

>>71993520
I think it's also influencing a new genre which is halftime. But the thing is that halftime is very much interesting rather then boring.

>>71993597
Hip Hop was an electronic music genre in and of itself, literally most of the drum machine styles in US electronic music stem from it.

I even think Industrial itself is closer to Hip Hop than rock music.

>>71993445
Also, gold dust was dj freshes best damn song. But then again, he is a total idiot

>>71993666
Checked

And with that, I forgot about Nero too.

I don't remember any songs by these dudes, just Pandora stations we would jam to before and after raves when we got in that state of mind.

I hate the electronic music scene so much.
The raves you all love, 90% of the people there were just there for drugs.

>>71993764
Nero is possibly the best duo out there, but I want their older style back. Stuff like must be the feeling, electron, and innocence is what made them good, but now it's just house and weaker dub.

Just listen to the stuff I recommended. You won't regret it. Outer edges is a good album

>>71993231
it's nice that they put all these k7 online, all the free parties I've been to were utter shit. From the Fraktal crew Mouse and No Name are worth checking out too since you're into that

>>71983030
what this kind of jacket on idm guy is called?

>>71993943
windbreaker.

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>>71983030
Seriously besides the stuff on the right there's a grand total of like 3 IDM artists worth listening to

I really wish it weren't true but the vast majority of IDM is just nondescript electronic music that doesn't do or accomplish anything interesting and just thinks being smart is synonymous with boring

I know the boilerplate response to this is that "I don't get it" and the only response I can possibly give to that is "Yes I do" so I'll spare you the trouble of trying to argue with me on this

>>71991964
this is not dubstep

>>71991964
Hot damn, that's bad.

>>71991964
how do you even dance to this

/bleep/ is NOT edm you can't even dance to that shit

>>71993666
DJ Fresh's best shit song after he sell out. His earlier stuff was great

>>71994412
Amon tobin, aphex twin, and basically varied stuff

>>71995059
His stuff with BC when they were around was also good

>>71983030
>burial in EDM
subtle

>>71995565
what you you classify him as? IDM?

>>71995631
At best it's edm. Still is the birth of dubstep in a way that was "mainstream"

>>71995650
i mean yeah burial invented dubstep. Archangel is the song that all other dubstep songs try to sound like.

>>71993943
IDM Jacket.

>>71995631
I can't imagine anyone dancing to him at a festival

>>71993370
what are some good american industrial artists anon

>>71995744
Not all festivals are EDC or UMF

>>71995671
Burial itself is influential, but not like hold your color or evolution by TC.