/classical/

Petzold

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>>71979105
Starting with a forced meme right off the bat?

>>71979216
you must be a xenakis fan

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>>71979105
>Lully dies
>Leclair: leave French music to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc9ANGM2uvA

>>71979216
The truth isn't just memes anymore.

Post Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WWR4PQZdjo

Is Messiaen atonal?

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Apologize.

>not liking Xenakis
What a sad life.

>>71979316
only some of his compositions

What's wrong with Xenakis?

Post Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S8KiFOwyUs

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Post based jews

>>71979601
Bernstein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERujbf4Pd3w

>>71979517
he sucks

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*repeats a 5 minute long exposition*

>>71979651
incorrect

>>71979517
Nothing, OP is a faggot as usual

>>71979705
When its something as beautiful as D. 960 I don't mind, but Agree with Debussy that German aggressiveness and repetition is what turns me off the most about the tradition

>>71979699
how long do you reckon this forced meme is going to last

imma give it a day, tops

>>71979789
>D. 960
>beautiful
G*rmans please refrain from trying to be aesthetic.

mendelssohn > your favorite composer

>>71979854
Wrong

>>71979867
forced meme

>>71980001
Mendelssohn is a meme thanks to our good friend and faggot Tallis

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Post Scarlatti

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>>71980343
Does Gould have any Scarlatti recorded? It would probably be terrible.
Have an old meme

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>>71980775
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eElaPyHeJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnWhE4kcWmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nN8DQSAwlI

>>71979250

You mean leave French music to RAMEAU?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U_gaFECXe8&t=2768s

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>>71979250


You mean leave French music to RAMEAU?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U_gaFECXe8&t=2768s

>>71979517

He's not Rameau.

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>>71981071
are you happy? You kill off every /classical/ thread with your spastic Rameauwhoring ... you've got what you want. There are no other composers but Rameau and so nobody is ever going to post anything classical ever again.

>>71981036
>>71981071
Anime about the Lullists (Marais, de Visee, Rebel, Leclair, etc.) rising up against the Rameau menace after the death of Lully when?

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>>71979105
well, call me a...
kraa-NERD then!

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>want to upload music to Jewtube
>it's blocked worldwide

I would kill someone to hear debussys last 3 sonatas

Post music for the upcoming NK - US war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-vK4IV4giw

>>71982334
ahhhhhhhhh

>>71982334
im so angry

Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxFbgy7v4bw

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He looks like a bugged Scaruffi desu

>>71982334
youtube exists you know

do normies think brass instruments are cool?

>>71979105
Do you have that Debussy-chart?

>>71983560
War tends to do that to you.

>>71983560
He bugged British tanks

>>71983812
Normies don't think any classical instruments are cool.

>>71983812
no one with even the barest inkling of good taste thinks brass instruments are cool

what 2 listen 2 from palestrina?

>>71983812
Prokofiev was the best at using brass in his pieces. Also Lutoslawski.

>>71985311
preferably, nothing

why do people here dislike telemann

>>71983748
he was making 6 sonatas, but he died before he made the last three :'(
number 4 was gonna be for harpsichord, oboe and french horn
how cool is that

>>71983812
They like them in trap music.

>>71985869
Because he's self taught and they're jealous of his raw talent.

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Is this a meme or is this legit?

>>71987323
It's legit a meme, why not listen to it and ascertain your own opinion?

>>71987815
Why would I listen to the opinions of an uneducated pleb like myself?

>>71987323
its neither. Its a veritable Milhouse

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>>71987323
It's good if you're interested in algorithmic / automatic composition. The models developed in the book are pretty contrived (mathematical / formal convenience being emphasised above everything else) and don't fit 'natural' composition styles in a straightforward manner (when they fit what a human composer does at all; most of the mathematics used was not developed specifically for musical analysis). I also personally deeply disagree with the philosophical / meta-theoretical view espoused in the book. But the methodological / theoretical stuff is excellent.

Obviously, it is very heavy on advanced mathematics. Unless you have a strong background in maths (especially linear algebra, calculus, and probability theory) the book will be impenetrable to you. Even the extra notes in the appendix assume you're familiar with all the concepts used in the proofs and derivations.

>>71983560
>>71984250

Did he got shot in the face, or what?

>>71988534
>anime girls in classical
magischmeisjeorkest will never come back ;_;

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfgeV6PLpa0

>>71989071
Who?

who was the ugliest composer ever?

>>71989121
>that audio quality
YOU'RE A MURDERER OF PEOPLE'S EARS!

>>71989611
plen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HmTwhfVx4

>>71989611
pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AQDwjg7wVM

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>>71989611
you know nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOOo7HyHgo

>>71989731
>tfw all of Klemperer's good performances are in terrible sound

>>71989804
there's a few pretty good stereo ones and plenty of good recordings from his Concertgebouw days in the 50s. the latter isn't in amazing sound, but it's plenty tolerable for collectors.

i mean, sure, he was at his best when he was fiery and young, but he had a lot of other attributes that never really went away.

Mozzart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VWXCL413o

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>>71989330
A Haitink & Concertgebouw fanboy youtuber that attracted a lot of weebs because he used anime illustrations in his uploads (before he got b&). I wasn't aware that he used to post in /classical/. He had a few great selections but there are far better channels for art music available on youtube.

I post anime because it annoys pseuds and normalfags that only listen to classical as a fashion statement. Hopefully they'll fuck off.

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>>71989698
>>71989714
>>71989731
WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT!?
Ya'll need Jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Y8jbQoYbQ

underrated

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>>71988534
Seems interesting. I'll give it a try even if I'm expecting to dislike a lot of what it's saying, just out of morbid curiosity.

thanks for the basic gestalt

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will the underrating ever stop

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>Rameau spamming, animes
what's going on

>>71990574
The Rameau spamming is /classical/'s latest flavour of shitposting (I'm pretty sure it's just one guy, possibly two but doubt it) after Boganon decided to leave. We had a few days of peace but obviously someone decided there was a gap in the market.

The animeposters have been here a while, even if you don't like anime you can at least thank them for keeping the discussion in these threads alive.

Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQ5PYVeRio

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>>71990669
what are we supposed to do with this ""recording""

>>71979822
If you don't find Beethoven or Bach aesthetic you have shit taste

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How much do you love your instruments /classical?
You do play, right?

>>71990292
>WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT!?
They're good performances

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Can someone here recommend me some composers like Henry Cowell?

>>71991056
Bach was ok because he belonged to a different school and epoch, but Beethoven?

Musical notation= worst language system ever

>>71991359
music notation btfo

Hindemith conducts Pérotin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyfdxNIdcW8

>>71991359
sure showed them academics

>>71991413
I'm not against theory but the staff is pretty JUST tier. I mean notes are not even consistently on a lline or space. There is just nothing particularly efficient about it. Least of all when we're talking about highly modal music. Something in altered? Forget about it

>>71990567
To be fair, Lou Reed is pretty based

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>>71991548
You have to constantly extend it too. There's probably a better way. It'll probably go away once we get brain interfaces.

>>71991858
>3 chords, now we're talkin' Jazz

so Burgmüller is actually pretty rad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlIBXfVTjxo

What is the point of musical set theory? Inversional equivalence? What the fuck are these niggers smoking.

>>71992524
probably because he moved to Paris and never came back to Germany

>>71991138
i can barely play k545 ;_;

>>71992714
kek

post scriabin

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTgj_69JKA

>>71979105
What happened to his face?

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Hi /classical/

Please rec me solo piano music, preferably in a romantic, impressionistic or minimalistic style.
Here's my last 25 listens for some context; currently on the Debussy.

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>>71993003

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>>71993003

>>71993124
Thank you, I've been meaning to check out more Gould after being turned off of him by the '82 Goldberg Variations.

>>71993158
I will check this out soon, thanks. I should actually have Quator Pour la Fin du Temps on that recent listen chart but I forgot to add it.

>>71993003
listen to ravel

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>>71993003
Go back to /daily/
And get some Janacek too, Rudolf Firkušný for a pianist.

>>71993000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsJEZInWXc

>>71993386
I have Pascal Rogé's Piano Works; any albums worth downloading congruently?

>>71993400
I'll post wherever I like, but thanks.

Janacek as a whole is underrated but his piano works are especially underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vH2gGgkRBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52h2LZg2cY

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>>71993003
>all that Satie and no Debussy
Check out the live Pollini etudes in the one mega as well.

>>71993606
Check the bottom right corner and also in my post :^)

>>71993545
>>71993400
This one?
https://www.discogs.com/Leo%C5%A1-Jan%C3%A1%C4%8Dek-Rudolf-Firku%C5%A1n%C3%BD-Piano-Music/release/5411643

>>71993697
I have the DG disc, it comes with more works. Not sure if those are the same performances though.

>>71989611
>doesn't appreciate the value of older meme recordings
OUT NOW
I bet you've never listened to a video from addiobelpassato in your life
>>71989731
>that Tristan
hnnnnnnngggggg

i upload you fags stuff all the time, gimmie a private torrent tracker invite so i can upload more stuff

SDF gave me a what.cd invite forever ago, i'm trustworthy, promise

>>71993825
Sent ;)

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hey bby

>>71993849
i probably have something rare that you want tho

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Best complete set of Bach Solo Violin Sonatas and Partitas NOW!


Too late faggots, beat you to it!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=webtIAlnjrk&list=PLF_hs0_VMJs-3ZmsExTqeSr-XJ-DI0WdH

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>>71994101
>>71994131
how do you double post on 4chan lmao loser

>>71992666
>hurr durr minor chords and major chords sound the same

>>71994131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW0nyhqujeE&list=PLBE7261C22B23FC5D

>>71994131
Grumiaux.

>>71994131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbyJZdEzJBU

Literally no one can compete

>>71994210
he looked like Aleister Crowley

>>71979105
>>>/lit/9334125

It devolves into a discussion about classical music (mainly about Beethoven). What do you guys think about it?

Pianists should stop being bitches and learn how to read in tenor clef

Zizek ruined the Ninth Symphony for me.

>>71995255
I don't get how this correlates with his critique of the symphony as an ideological tool.

>>71995255
dubs confirm

>>71991138
If i don't practice at least 2 hours a day I sink into a depression and believe I'll never get better at playing piano. I actually can't live without it, it fucks with my life

Anyone have any 12-tone albums?

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>>71993003
Zimmermans interpretation of Totentanz by Liszt is one of my faves.

>>71995223
Why? Because you've finally discovered that there is no way to teach peace and love, not even with art of the highest degree?

>>71995255
Fuck you for associating Trump to Beethoven.

Does Zimerman even have any bad recordings?

>>71996026
that might be bernstein's fault

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Post Dutch composers

>>71996642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtNaKNZqc5s

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>>71993936

>>71997800
>Ravel steals from Haydn

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>>71993936
I require more sexual stories about Brahms

>>71997800
>"no senpai, you still have that BLACKED mass sonata to write still"

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>>71997858
>blacked
kys, cuck

post ur favorite lieder by anyone

>>71998087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaq-6U7ZJt8
lil shroom

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>>71998087
Melodie coming through by qtiest composer ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MJCKL83wFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP9PDdepDEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4_56wz2ODs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw7rG8urzP0

Veracini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hz13El5Ovw

>>71998166
J'AIME TES YEUX J'AIME TON FRONT

O MA REBELLE O MA FAROUCHE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MN0YD7_uec

Brahms, Oortmerssen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0wTDYuK4U4

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Name a better melodymaker than Veracini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LeItI7AF3E
Pro tip: you can't.

Celibidache's La Mer is absurd, almost 15 minutes of first movement.

>>71999551
>Celibidache is absurd
yes, he is

Why haven't mods done anything about the avatarfag yet?

>>71989001
he was part of a communist paramilitary ground and was injured while fighting against the british-backed greek monarchy during the civil war there

>>71999629
*paramilitary group

>>71999590
It works for Bruckner, but for everything else it's questionable.

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>>71999766
>It works for Bruckner

>>71999795
fight me irl

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Celi~

Telex from Toscanini (Heaven) to Celibidache (Munich):

Dear Sergiu!
We have read you in the Spiegel. You get on our nerves, but we forgive you. We have no choice anyway: forgiveness is in style Up Here. Potato-sack Karli made some objection, but after Kna and I had a heart-to-heart with him, he stopped whining.

Wilhelm now all of a sudden insists that he has never even heard of you. Papa Josef, Wolfgang Amadeus, Ludwig, Johannes, and Anton all prefer the second violins on the right and claim that your tempi are all wrong. But actually, they don’t really give a damn about it. Up here, we are not supposed to care a damn about anything. The Boss does not allow it.

An old Zen master who lives next door says you got it all wrong about Zen Buddhism. Bruno is totally cracked up by your comments. I have the suspicion that he secretly shares your views about me and Karli. Maybe you could say something mean about him for a change; otherwise, he feels so left out.

I hate to break it to you, but everybody up here is totally crazy about Herbert. In fact, the other conductors are a little jealous of him. We can’t wait to welcome him up here in fifteen or twenty years. Too bad you can’t be with us then.

But people say that where you will go the cuisine is much better, and the orchestras down there never stop rehearsing. They even make little mistakes on purpose, so that you have a chance to correct them for all eternity.

I’m sure you will like that, Sergiu. Up here, the angels read the composers’ minds. We conductors only have to listen. Only God knows why I’m here.

Have lots of fun,
In old friendship,
Arturo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUBy6GP9E0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBm3hW4FGfU

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Will it ever be topped?

>>71992043
>tfw you recognize this as la campanella etude
I swear Liszt got off on causing carpal tunnel, it really isn't fair how good we was.

>>71995223
I enjoy it even more just to spite that fat fuck.

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>>71995223

>The 9th symphony is Beethoven's worst. Plebs only like it because of the splendidly naïve Ode to Joy.

listened through Manze's Brahms on my Brahmsathon. honestly, probably one of the better "period" sets on balance so far.

now onto Norrington, hopefully i come back alive

What's a good performance of Carmen?

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Saddest movement in all music.

>>72001624
>transcribed by Liszt
Truly a sad happenstance.

>>72001706
>underrating Liszt

So since it's that time of the year again, what's the best recording of the St Matthew Passion?
Suzuki, Herreweghe, Harnoncourt,...?

>Kreisleriana, Op. 16, is a composition in eight movements by Robert Schumann for solo piano, subtitled Phantasien für das Pianoforte. It was written in only four days in April 1838 and a revised version appeared in 1850. The work was dedicated to Frédéric Chopin, but when a copy was sent to the Polish composer, "he commented favorably only on the design of the title page".[1]

Chopin confirmed for pleb.

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Stop crapping all over the thread with /*pol/ shit you faggots.

>>72002616
Of those three Herreweghe. But the true best is Klemperer's (the 1961 recording with the Philharmonia is the recording to go for). It has GOAT singers, very fine balance between sections. And it isn't HIP, which fits the Matthäus Passion immensely.

>>72002842
Why do you say it fits?

>>72002883
The oratorio is very dramatic. (The Passion is a pretty tragic subject when you think about it.) A rich, grand sound from a bigger orchestra works in tandem with that and Bach's writing allows for it. In the HIP performances, some of the choruses sound scrawny and suffocated (some parts are barely audible with HIP orchestras, especially live; post-processing alleviates a lot of that in recordings. I'm not a fan of it though, since it's pretty obviously altered). Bach was pushing the orchestration to its limits here.

>>72002655
Fuck him, from now on I will be a Chopinfugue poster.

>>72002977
>>72002842
Compare the final chorale in the Herreweghe and Klemperer versions for example. (Keep in mind, this is the scene of the entombment of what is supposed to be the son of God / God in human form.)

Herreweghe --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URYF9HseN_w
Klemperer --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pNeIGKZ8Dk

Klemperer's interpretation is a lot more solemn / majestic. (The slower tmpo also aids in that but the bigger choir and clearer phrasing even more so.)

In my opinion, Bach's Passions are examples of proto-Gesamtkunstwerk and Klemperer's modern interpretation that draws a lot from the late Romantic tradition works best in this case.

Post a controversial opinion.


Arthur Rubinstein sucks

>>72003234
chopin is good

>>72003276
If you're into scat.

>>72003234
Mozart

>>72003380
>controversial

>>72003454
>underrated

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>>72003234
Pic related is a great symphony

>>72002842
As much as I love Klemperer's passion, I do think the opening chorus is just too slow. Richter gets it just about right

>>72003593
to the gulag.

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>>72003864
more like "conscripted to fight in the Soviet war in Afghanistan"
This is the 80s we're talking about here...

>>72003785
Yes, Richter's interpretation is also interesting. Something of a cross between the HIPsters and modernists.

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEDfYU8vwyU

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>>72003234
Historically informed performances are generally awful. HIPsterism is a stupid fad that only got traction because of Baby Boomer pseuds. There might be some value in exploring older playing techniques but old 'historical' instruments generally sound like shit, especially the brasses.
Either go for an aesthetically informed performance or go for eternal silence.

Fuck the fogeys. /bump

>>72005266
this anime poster is not that bad t b h

>>72005266
This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_BRvxjbQI

>>72005266
Baroque string instruments sound better than modern day string instruments.

>>72005435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhTqpmHu5yg

>>72005266
it depends more on the performer, like always

HIP as a general philosophy can be well done if executed properly, but there are plenty of performers within that movement that implement their modern sensibilities along with HIP ones and it can become quite uncanny.

and in regards to the instruments... well, it also depends. frankly i think period instruments sound quite good from the classical era and onwards, and i especially prefer the general aesthetic qualities of 19th century instruments in comparison to 20th century instruments. hearing a Bruckner Adagio with gut strings is a feast for the ears, and, in my opinion, superior to our modern sound. i suppose it really depends on your aesthetic preferences.

all in all, though, i'm glad the HIP movement happened. because it was a breath of fresh air for performance in an era where performances were increasingly becoming samey. the recording process brought forth the increasing homogenity of ensemble sound, and the HIP movement at least went in the other direction, if nothing else

can we have a discord

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>>72003234
Music died on 1749.

>>72003234
Gould's Mozart is best Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zib_hS_j-U

>>72006138
would it last

>>72006603
Fuck off Ame

>>72006607
only one way to find out......

discord.gg/ykfKB

>>72006138
Discord is for /b/tards. It would just bring more shitposters here.

There are only three good operas.

L'Orfeo

Der Freischutz

Einstein on the Beach

MAYBE Orfeo ed Euridice as well.

>>72007597
1) No
2) Einstein isn't even the best of Glass's operas. [spoiler] It's Akhenaten. [/spoiler]

>>72007735
That horrific mispelling of Akhnaten doesn't refute the fact that Einstein on the Beach is a far more provocative, influential, and profound work.

Besides Satyagraha is the best post-Einstein work.

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>>72008132
I got a cramp in my neck. Thanks, asshole.

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>>72008220
My bad

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>>72008456
FFS

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>>72008480
I swear to god' I've flipped it 3 times and double checked every time before posting
Wtf

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>>71999513
Too much floritura, too little Durchführung.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIbYCOiETx0

Did asians cheapen the idea of the child prodigy? You never hear about kids who are "the next mozart" anymore. Its probably because there are like two in every city.

>>71998420
I'd like to listen to organ transcriptions of Bruckner's symphonies. Brahms' are too pianistic.

>>72008671
They're not child prodigies. They're tiger mum abuse victims.

>>72008739
but to normies they are indistiguishable because they can play the music mechanically and that sounds good enough.

>>71985311
missa papae marcelli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0_pz5j3k84&index=4&list=PLiJnN4bTWJ11rwiWOGI607hEhUqbn2x7J

>>71998177
>a quarter of the way in
Ok, this is better than the sonata. But mostly since it's orchestral. The italian penchant for ornamentation is still too damn dominant. It's starved of proper development.

>>72008671
It's quite the opposite.
The next Mozart has to be a great piano virtuoso and also a great composer. This inflation of child prodigies only show us how much talented even for a child prodigy Mozart was.

>>72007597
>Einstein on the Beach
>no Mozart
Plebeian as hell m8

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Hantai is better than hentai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE7Ot5E4X7A

>>72008509
No one? I'm begging you.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz0PmHG0RvQHazlEsFU-4uQ
who's your /classical/ waifu?

>>72009191
BWV 939

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Uq3luXBRA

>>71991138

I dunno. I love my piano. I think I can play it right if I really set my mind to it. I try to improvise or just make my music but fail miserably.

>>72008705
>tfw none of Bruckner's organ music was written down because he was such an incredible improviser that never had any need to keep a record of it

>>72009831
I love you, my man.

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>>72009190
For once you have good taste animeanon

Post music for
>tfw no gf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4kZEpBuryk

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>>72008553
>>72008794
>so insecure in his masculinity that he's unable to enjoy pretty things

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>post yfw the C# in op. 93 IV turns out to be the dominant of #ii

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>>72010746

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>>72009519
The patrician's choice

>>72010412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6I6Y1LhMKo
The whole cycle.

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>>72010412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2mph-fZZ64

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>>72010498
Joke's on you: my preferred pronouns are wewrr, wewrroorr, and wewewewrr.

But I like my pretty things teutonic. Like Schubert's 3rd --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccQ-NcSUaDs

Animeposters, if you keep up the quality of posting that you've exhibited so far in this thread then you might be allowed to stay

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>>72010412
Debbie Sea --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xsz2W8jFQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIgtUqekvnc

(Is this the right feel? I've never had a gf so this has to count.)

>>72011447
Fuck you, *we* own the place. :^)

>>72007795
It doesn't matter how profound it is because it's garbage

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Post Stravinsky

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>>72011085
I can't handle how fucking trash Handel is.
>>72011121
>Romantic
>music
How about you post actually pretty German pieces?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxPsCK6gKr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq8C1-2u0D0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2KlYc56Ano
>>72011652
Post music for >tfw no bf then you little faggot

I've listened to scarlatti pretty much everyday for the past year

>>72012221
start with soler sonatas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v1peBUXMXU

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>>72011770
Vit plejeur.

Paztorail --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiR78kuxelY
Ogdet vor veend inztrumendz --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyqLnP0hOnI
Zong of zah Neintingayl --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQtzf9auYCo

>>72012221
Which Scarlatti?

>>72012818
his shit's pretty badass too
>>72013066
the only one that matters. big D

>>72013304
>the only one that matters
Incorrect

>>72013331
Wrong.

>>72013387
Yes incorrect means wrong, good job anon-chan.

>>72013410
That's one of the only two things you got right ITT Baroque-kun-fag.

>>72013474
So you agree with me? Glad to hear it.

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>>72013500
>>72013474
>>72013410
>>72013387
>>72013331
pls

>>72013500
It's only natural. You'd have to be insane to disagree on the common usage meaning of words.

>>72013531
>high level discourse found only in /classical/

>>72013587
Shitposting is what gives this place its patina man.

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>>72001706
>Liszt underrating in the current year

best version of Brahms' string quintet no.2 op 111 is _______

Hindemith conducts Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O47DB_3JUpo

>>72014078
>Gulda

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>>72014078
>conducting a beethoven piano concerto

>>72013968
Petzold quartet

Can anyone help me decide where to start with the following composers?:

Messiaen (all I've heard is the Quartet for the end of time and I loved it)

Feldmn (after Rothko Chapel)

Shostakovich

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>>72014476
>Messiaen
Turangalîla Symphony I guess. Get whatever recordings Boulez or Nagano have done.
>Feldmn
Don't
>Shostakovich
His chamber music, especially the string quartets, and ignore the symphonies.

>/pseud/ general
wew laddies!

>>72014164
It was because of Beethoven piano concertos began to need conductors

>>72014536
>and ignore the symphonies.
why's that

>>72014476
Turangalîla-Symphonie is the natural next step. Pretty widely accessible. In general Messeaen is a minefield. It's hard to prognosticate what you'd like. Certainly was like that for me.

Shostakovich is dried shit that's been out in the sun too long. Feldman is wet dog shit with stinking flies flying around it.

>>72014558
Maybe you can contribute something instead of complaining faggot.

>shostakovich hate from multiple people lately

explain

Listening to classical music with headphones on is wrong. If you do this you should be ashamed.

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>>72014810

>>72014840
You can't beam an orchestra into your ears. Get a fucking clue.

Shostakovich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8yKsJj3sb8

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>>72014856
its really no different from using speakers..
the sound has to get separated into a fixed number of channels and the sound engineer can only have so many microphones

also, calm down

Who is the most famous classical musician you've seen live, /classical/? I saw Yo-Yo Ma the other day when the NYP came to London, but I've also seen Joshua Bell, Krystian Zimerman and Maurizio Pollini. Still hoping that I'll get to see Sokolov some day.

>>72014999
saw ashkenazy conducting a bunch of russian stuff last year

>>72014644
Because they're bad.

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>>72014644
Where to even begin? (not the guy you were asking, btw. I'm chipping in because I can't stand Shostakovich.)

His orchestration skills are pretty much non-existent. All the contents is actually packed in one section (usually the strings) at a time, with sparse random parts for the other sections. He had no idea what to do with all the instruments available to him*. He could not develop a theme to save his life so he compensated by introducing several and stringing them together haphazardly. His actual attempts at development end up being repetitive snorefests (if you like Glass you're going to love Shostakovitch). He's a Russian Ralph Vaughan Williams, except worse.
A pathetic mediocrity that is best forgotten altogether. Presentism bias and politics is the only reason anyone still gives a shit about him. That, and plebs with shit taste.

(*) which is why his chamber music is passable (if only barely). his flaws as a composer are not as obvious with a smaller ensemble.

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>>72014476
>Feldman

I recommend For Samuel Beckett (Modern Ensemble, Tamayo) and pic related

Rothko Chapel is also great and the collection of piano works is pretty good

>>72015226
Wow, thanks for the fairly detailed reply.

I do have some questions though:
>His orchestration skills are pretty much non-existent.
The way he writes for the different instruments is quite chunky yes, but doesn't that work well for some of his symphonies, like the bombastic movements of 5 and 7?

Also, I get what you mean about him not being able to develop themes properly, but I've always thought the same of Debussy (who instead makes up for it with breathtaking textures that evoke images), and I might be wrong but I think I remember you listing Debussy in a top 5 last thread or something like that.

>>72014721
Could it be because he's trash? He's like any of the random nobodies the Baroque animefag keeps posting, except he was still alive a few decades ago.

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>>72015502
/classical/ is abysmal, having you people shit on a composer is simply an endorsement

>>72015226
>>72005266
>>72002842
>>71988534
hi which composers do you like
if you had to name 10, which ones?

Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9urnGKE_LQ

>>72015447
You pretty much answered it yourself but let me put it this way: how many symphonies did Debussy write? Only a short sketch when he was 18, which he didn't even bother to orchestrate.
Debussy instead developed along his own idiosyncrasies. Modal music doesn't lend itself well to classical motivic development anyway. Debussy used the whole tone scale a lot for example. How do you 'modulate' a motif written like that? It's impossible; it has no tonal centre to modulate to or away from.

You can't really compare the two composers. They don't share a common grounds for comparison. Folks usually like to retreat into the old "it's all apples and oranges" safe space / fortress but I don't say this lightly. There really is a commensurability issue at play here.
And yes, I adore Debussy. He succeeded where many before him failed. It's not an accident that the lush instrumental / orchestral works appeared in tandem with the older modal style of music being gradually abandoned.

Next to Wagner, Debussy is the most imitated 19th century composer. He developed an extremely effective heuristic. Brilliant even, in that it's pretty obvious in hindsight but no one before him noticed how to do it. And no one since managed to expand in a substantial way upon it. Messiaen tried. A lot. But most of his experiments were duds. Grisey and Murail tried too. But their stuff is pretty pulled-by-the-hair, in more ways than one, even when they got it right.

Seriously, comparing Debussy with Shostakovich makes my blood boil. Don't do that please.

____< P e t z o l d >___
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>>71979105
Though I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed, just to let it all out, what's in my head. I'm feeling, a little peculiaaarrr. I Said heyyyyyyyeeeeyyyyyaaayyyyyaayyyaah, heyyeeeeeeyyyyyyeeeeaaaaayaahhhh. I said hey, what's going on

Petzold

does this qualify as a classical composition? it felt like me to only a pop song on the surface
https://clyp.it/dyz3uhzp
but when i thought back to writing it, although it was all just "what sounded good". it acts very much like a romantic era arrangment. theres fills in almost every bar, constantly changing tonal color

i think i hit the nail on the head with this one

Caldara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4sYC2zsP0

>>72016750
Give me a few less popular masterful Debussy recs, please.

Albertini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUlLo6xUb5c

>>72016750
>implying you understand enough about any of those composers to make any of those judgements

nigger you probably can't even spell me a french sixth in e major

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Why is he so polarizing, Nietzsche even went as far as to call him impotent, do you guys like him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gECYL1-BEmc

>>72020254
>tfw Nietzsche rose from the grave just to insult Gould
I admire his dedication

>>72020315
kek

Post underrated pianists.

debussy sycks

>>72015226
>His orchestration skills are pretty much non-existent
no
>All the contents is actually packed in one section
no
>He had no idea what to do with all the instruments available to him
no
>He could not develop a theme to save his life so he compensated by introducing several and stringing them together haphazardly
no
>He's a Russian Ralph Vaughan Williams, except worse.
not even close, more like polar opposites.
>A pathetic mediocrity that is best forgotten altogether
no

I'm not going to debate you as you clearly don't know enough about Shostakovich to know that you're wrong, but one day you will realize it was you who were the pleb with shit taste all along :^)

There is a good reason his chamber music is so markedly different from his symphonies, and it has nothing to do with the number of instruments.

Give me your top German Romantic compositions for strings.

>>72021667
>implying

>dude triplets xdd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKkZmgg3X_c

>>72021667
I'm not the animefag but you're full of shit m8
I bet you think chopin isn't shitpin either

fag

>>72021792
Chopin is what he is. 'pretty' background piano music, largely accentuating the right hand melody.

>>72015676
you know what they say about broken clocks m8
feel free to pile shit into your ears tho

Childhood is idolizing Mozart.
Adulthood is realizing Bach makes more sense.

>>72020135
Not that anon, but I can: C, E, F#, A#

>>72021816
see? this is how I know you're full of shit. shitpin was a gimmicky fuck who played both hands like a right hand because

>muh """"""virtuoso"""""" fortepiano player bitchezzz

but I was talking about his orchestration skills nigga.
I don't even need to ask now

inb4
>jelly of shitpin mad skillzzzz on da keyboard

>dude can play AND sing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgIlmLMYgsk
Is there anything he can't do?

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such a small variation, such pure beauty

>>72021951
>f followed by sf
This is why Beethoven went deaf. I bet he'd go to rock concerts without earplugs.

>play this chord fortissississimo
>what? I can't hear you!
I bet you can't.

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>>72021951
>>72021983
>>72022002

>>72021983
But forte is different from sforzando.

>>72022081
How do you sforzando on top of a forte? You have to go louder or it won't stand out at all.

>>72022102
You accent that specific note, which on some instruments is different than just playing it louder. And sforzando is for that note only, dynamic markings go until they're changed

And on that note, this is the new thread

>>72022152
>>72022152
>>72022152