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itt: artists who never topped their debut album

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Agree op. Also
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>>71932454
AnCo
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every subsequent Foals album has improved on that turd and What Went Down is their best album to date
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Most obvious example
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>>71932506
Every album after Antidotes is just cheesy and boring indie pop. Antidotes is an all around great record of catchy and very danceable pop punk tunes
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>>71932607
>catchy
>danceable
>tunes

all words used by the undiscerning listener
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>>71932552
Knew some fag would post this
Saucerful is much better
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>>71932782
>debut
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>>71932454
>>71932607
t. Fantano
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This, desu, OP. Pinkerton wasn't that good
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Television
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>>71933557
wtf i said desu not desu
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>>71933610
You said desu, desu.
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>>71933465
CORPORAL CLEGG
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The ultimate example.

>>71933557
>>71933610
stop spamming desu
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>>71932782
post s/t and i'll agree
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Kinda torn on this because Maniac Meat was great, too.
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>>71932454
>>71932607
Holy Fire is unironically their best album
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>>71933527
Best example ever
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>>71932552
Half-right
>>71933527
Yes
>>71933557
Yes
>>71933679
Definitely fucking yes.
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>>71933849
>half-right

I assume you mean because it's their only album fully conceptualized by Syd?
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Close but no cigar.
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>>71933911
fuck off
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Contrary to what a lot of people say, I think that he has a lot of great albums in his discography, post pop depression was a close call for AOTY for me. But after all this years, The idiot is still the best.
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>>71932552
Fuck off
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>>71933884
I know it is the best but I have a soft spot in my heart for Dark Side
>>71933911
We call it "Red".
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>>71933911
Larks Tongue destroys ITCOTCK. Lizard and Island are also two of the best progressive rock albums ever recorded
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>>71933920
/mu/ is full of bullshitters like you just trying to hard. They have a great discography, but ITCOTCK is consistently ranked as one of the greatest albums of all time, and the rest aren't, and there's a reason for that. It doesn't blow the rest of albums away, but there's that magic that can only come from a debut, with the innovation of a great band, and impeccable songwriting.
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I'm super biased though. The End is probably my favorite track of all time.
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>>71933933
I really enjoyed Apres, too, but I agree with you. This is just too damn good.
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>>71933956
How do people actually believe that Piper is their best? I can understand the frustration of King Crimson's underrated follow ups, but Pink Floyd made some grear albums that are, if only, slightly better.
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>>71933911
Islands, Larks' Tongues, Starless, Red and Discipline are all better
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>>71934046
Strange Days > The Doors
When the Music's Over > The End
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>>71934010
It might be their most important and influential album but that doesn't have any bearing on how enjoyable it is to listen to. If I'm going to listen to KC I'd rather listen to the albums that don't have Epitaph and Moonchild wasting space
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>>71933736
Ultima is still very good though
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>>71934523
this
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Easy mode
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>>71934591
Epitath is wasting space? lol
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>>71934591
>Epitaph and Moonchild wasting space
I haven't heard such a shitty opinion in a long time
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>>71934523
Fucking this
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>>71934591
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>71934649
wrong
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>>71932454
Is this album actually good? I was under the impression Foals were essential Crosley-core but I kind of like Spanish Sahara.
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>>71934619
Yeah, I actually like that one a lot. Just not quite as much as his first two.
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>>71932782
A U T I S M
(though desu their debut album wasn't that great)
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>>71933679
Is this the only example in hip hop? I guess you could make an argument for Biggie.
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>>71933911
>>71934046

Bet I can trigger /mu/ harder
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>>71935196
Clouddead
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>>71935241
You mean by implying Death Grips were ever good right?
>>71935283
>hip hop
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>>71935308
Well technically no one said anything about the artists themselves being great. Only requirement is that the debut is their best.
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>>71935308
Clouddead are hip hop
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>>71934523
I would listen to a cogent argument for When The Music Stops but

>The Doors
>zero bad songs

>Strange Days
>Horse Latitudes
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>>71933949
Came here specifically to post this
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>>71935358
No they aren't.
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>>71932454
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>>71935533
Get the fuck outta here this might be their worst.
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>>71935308
>You mean by implying Death Grips were ever good right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA FUCKING ROASTED HIM
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>>71935196
Cannibal Ox
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>>71935551
Hey I found the newfag
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>>71935364
>Horse Latitudes
>bad song
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>>71935364
>not enjoying to Horse Latitudes while having Jim Morrison's voice penetrate your very soul.
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>>71935597
Noise music is degenerate.
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>>71934832
Yeah there first album is really good even there latter albums have a handful of good songs between them.
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>>71935803
>stgstv
>noise music

dropped
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>>71932484
At least that was only because they never tried to do another album like it

Most of their albums are good
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>>71934667
This
>>71932607
Agreed. Foals went to shit the moment they dropped their math-y influences.
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>>71932454
God, I remember how big that album was and then they just became a generic band. I'm half glad, though, because some middle-class poseur asshole kept going on about it like "you have to turn the volume all the way up to appreciate this album", acting like it was some fucking revolutionary shit.
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>>71933465
Saucerful only good half is the first half, and that's because its songs are influenced by Barret

>>71933952
>he fell for (((waters))) memes
embarrassing
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>>71935661
>muh experiment

>>71935734
Would make a better slam poem
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>>71934667
The most perfect post in this thread. Such a strong debut album that they never had a prayer in topping it.

also DFA1979
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>>71936309
>Sydplebs
Fuck off
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>>71936309
Idolizing a drug addled loser who's whole legacy consists of three albums, who then proceeded to throw away his career and his life and ended up an obese diabetic who pushed around shopping carts.
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>>71935196
Wu-Tang Clan seems to be even more apparent example to me. Excluding solo efforts of course.
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>>71935533
fall be kind is the only decent thing they've ever done
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>>71936755
Technically an EP but still better
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>>71935533
this
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>>71935533
HCTI and Feels >>>
Even MPP may be better
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>>71934667
this and it kills me every time I listen to it
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>>71932552

This is unironically correct.

When Syd left, Pink Floyd went to complete dogshit.
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>>71934667
A Weekend in the City is much better. Only plebs prefer Silent Alarm.
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>>71938050
>A Weekend In The City is much better

This is what one person in the entire fucking universe actually believes
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>>71938167
It truly is though.

Where is Home is the only weak track on the album.

Also, this song is basically better than anything on Silent Alarm and it was a fucking B side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBtiKidZlA0
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>>71937050
if you actually think this, you def. have not heard their other stuff cuz that one is not that unique for them
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>>71938222
Even trips won't help you reinforce this point. A Weekend In The City was one of the biggest disappointments in terms of follow-ups in the last ten years.

I remember being really excited for it after hearing the track about the 7/7 bombings live.

The album never gets going - the production is way too slick and it just devolves into Lissack having an autistic effects pedal wig-out on everything.

To me, the biggest problem was who they recruited to produce the album - Jacknife Lee has produced some of the most painfully middle of the road efforts in the last fifteen years. Think Snow Patrol. Paul 'Phones' Epworth was/is a far better producer but I think he was tied up doing Madonna's or Adele's album.

Even Intimacy was a better effort than this album.
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>>71934824
You've got great taste, but their debut is still better.

You listen to & the Voidz?
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>>71938304
To each his own, but I don't know why you would expect their second album to be a Silent Alarm 2. Artists evolve, and I think a lot of the complaints people have about AWITC is that it didn't meet their preconceived notions of what it SHOULD sound like.

I think when you strip those prejudices and listen to the album with fresh ears, you'll find it's pretty damn good.
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>>71938354
I agree that it wasn't about being Silent Alarm 2 - it's just that everyone expected something far more adventurous than what they produced.

I suppose that it's impossible to repeat the urgency of a debut. Look at how shit Disclosure and Catfish look by making the same album again.
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>>71938442
Fair enough. Just curious, is there any song on the album you like though?
Also, have you listened to the B sides? They're like an entire scrapped album and better than the actual album.
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>>71933679
It Was Written was pretty good, but yeah. Illmatic is just too good.
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>>71933581
My nigga. Kid A is trying too hard and everything else is boring
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surprised no one posted this obvious one
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>>71938015
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Clap Your Hands Say Yeah unfortunately never topped their debut for me. Really heart that thing.
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>>71939856
I'm not trolling mang.

Pink Floyd tried to be prog but almost completely missed the point of what prog should sound like.

Their 60s psychedelic stuff was far heavier than any of the try hard 20 minute songs they made in the 70s.
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>>71936759
what the fuck is this
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>>71933933
man, what would you say are his great records? I've heard a couple and I haven't really liked any of them. I liked Brick by Brick and american ceasar.
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>>71933949
this
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Foals have become a great band who have released consistently better and better albums imo.

That said, dig deep into foals early work, b-sides, and EP's, there's some great shit. Not to mention the Edmund Fitzgerald, which was like proto-foals, which was never topped creatively by anything they did as Foals
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>>71932454
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>>71937275
I mean I like that EP but that's just straight up wrong
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Nothing's ever come close.
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>>71932483
Yeah because all Front Bottoms is shit
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>>71943480
Really? I liked Gossamer a lot. "Constant Conversations" was great and a lot of the songs were fantastic. Both albums are as good as each other in my book.
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Not a contrarian, not baiting
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>>71943564
What about their latest? The one with the kid on it.
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Doolittle has too much filler
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Yep.
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>>71943588
I didn't like it as much as the other two. It didn't have that killer song or songs on it like they did. Just didn't stand out to me as much.
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>>71935308
Edgy
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>>71945251
>took 120 posts to get to this
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>>71934667
came to post this
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>>71945452
The thread is nothing but a bunch of fedoras circlejerking to as many obscure indie albums as they can.
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>>71936882
>Idolizing Syd
Nice strawman. Why are you equating stating the obvious truth that Syd's albums are better to "idolizing" the man. Art and artist can be different things you small minded plebian.
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>>71945490
*board
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>>71943504
why
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>>71932751
>>71933815

retards
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>>71935196
Joey
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>>71932454
How can you say shit like Cassius and Balloon is better than Spanish Sahara or Providence
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The Strokes.
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>134 replies
>no one posted oasis yet
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Van Halen
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now here's one that could be debated
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>>71943570
Nice bait homo
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Avalanches
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>>71932552
This is literally the worst mu meme
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>>71948231
I was waiting for a pleb to post this.

Hot Fuss is literally their worst album.

>autotuned Brandon Flowers
>shitty emo style and guyliner
>the entire B side is fucking terrible

Sam's Town and Day and Age is when they peaked.

Even The Desired Effect is at least 10 times better than Hot Fuss.
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>>71939701
Wrong
>>71943653
Correct
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obvs
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>>71934178
WRONG.

but i'm the only one who feels that way, so ignore me
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>>71935533
Sadly it's true. I mean, I like loads of their other albums, but this is above any other.
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>>71934649
Room on Fire > Comedown Machine > Is This It > First Impressions of Earth > Angles
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>>71934010
the reason is that the other albums are too experimental for plebby poprock listeners aka fucking normies REEEEEEEE
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>>71932454
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>>71933579
Yeah, definitely this one.
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still good enough to get Mos Def in my top 5
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>>71949042
I like them both
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>>71949536
I like you
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>>71935241
That might be their first major label debut, but it's generally accepted that exmilitary is their first album.
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>>71935574
This. The cold vein is a landmark in underground hip hop but all of their subsequent projects and that Gotham shit don't even come close.
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