Why was British punk so much better than American??

>>71896747
It was left wing

>>71896792
*The Clash were left wing

>>71896747
Things that aren't true general?

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>the clash
>punk
come on son

>>71896747
british hardcore and second wave punk is pinnacle punk, next are japanese and scandinavians

>>71897436
the pinnacle of punk is first wave American. Get fucked faggot.

>>71897445
get over it, dead kennedys, black flag and shit are all overrated
best american hardcore is poison idea or the accused

>>71897445
the pinnacle of punk is american hardcore and i'll beat you up if you don't agree

>>71897445
>The New York Dolls
>The Pinnacle of anything

Fuck off Christgau

>>71897468
Dead Kennedys and Black Flag aren't first wave dumbass

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>>71896747
If that's true, how Stooges alone is better than any british punk ever?

>>71896747
>The Clash
>better than The Germs
>better than any CBGBs band
>better than Suicide

kys

>>71897489
>British Punk is the Clash
Blatant Ignorance: The Post

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>british """""""rock"""""""

>>71896747
HAHAHAHAHA

ok Discharge were great in their own way, but still, Hardcore makes all that Clash mompunk worthless.

America > Japan > Sweden > Britain

>>71896747
wrong

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>>71896747
lol no.

british punk was for pussies only

80s American hardcore was punk at its peak

>>71897500
I can't really think any british punk band that are better than those bands.

Damned is the only british punk band that is worth listening

>>71897571
>for pussies only
>posts the most whiny ass "i wish my life was hard" band ever

>X-Ray Spex
>The Buzzcocks
>The Slits
>The Au Pairs
>The Damned
>Wire
>The Undertones
>The Pop Group
>The Sex Pistols
>The Clash
>Not the GOAT punk movement ever

Christ these yankee fucks really are thick as pigshit aren't they

>>71897592
>implying any of those bands are good

britain started punk americans r just copy cats

>>71897584
If you can't think of a band better than the Germs and Suicide, than you really are a fucking ignorant muppet.

All the best CBGB bands were post-punk anyway so I'm not even sure they count.

>>71897592
>Damned
>Wire

Those are the only good bands there.

Also, Pop Group was post-punk.

>>71897606
Wonderful hot take you got there my man. Surprised you didn't burn your tongue as you spat it out your mouth

Why don't you go back to swallowing cum so as to cool it down. I'm sure your mouth will be very grateful

>>71897624
Again something that's not true. The Stooges weren't British.

>>71897629
>Ramones
>Patti Smith
>Television
>Richard Hell
>Misfits
>post-punk

Grime is unironically British punk.

>>71897652
Sorry I don't like your precious British punk bands. Chill out fuckhead.

>>71897585
What? Have you ever listened to Gun Club?

>>71897637
>Not liking the Undertones

John Peel died for your sins my man.

>>71897686
Have you? Jeffrey Lee Pierce kicked the drummer out because he couldn't handle the fact that the dude actually lived hard while Jeffrey was pretending to.

>>71897592
>Black Flag
>Bad Brains
>Cro-Mags
>Minor Threat
>Negative Approach
>Negative FX
>SIEGE
>Poison Idea
>Dead Kennedys
>Minutemen
>Descendents
>Gorilla Biscuits
>Circle Jerks
etc.

Come on

>>71897670
>any of those bands
>good
christ get some taste

>>71896747
>>71897445
>>71897468
Wrong

>>71897708
Explain me how that was the actual reason why he kicked the drummer.

Also, Jeffrey died from a stroke while was HIV positive, while also suffering from cirrhosis and chronic hepatitis. That guy alone is more punk than any british punk band.

>>71897670
>Television
>Not post-punk

>Richard hell
>The Misfits
>The Ramones
>Ayy lmao

I'll accept Patti Smith.

>>71897712
Black Flag, Minutemen, Descendents, Circle Jerks, and Dead Kennedys I can respect. The rest are solid if unremarkable. Also far too many disparate movements in there for it to cohere as a single "movement"

Also, distinct lack of women in those groups. British first wave punk was more egalitarian.

>>71897723
If you don't like Television you have objectively bad taste, bud

Idunno if British punk is better. It's certainly very close despite the United States being the originators of the genre and having such a sheer numbers advantage.

I will say that the reason British punk is *so good* is that Great Britain suffered heavy bombings and casualties from the Nazis during World War II, and, especially for the kids born in that generation, the road to recovery was kinda bleak and difficult. It gave British baby boomers an extra dose of cynicism and world-weariness that the Americans didn't have.

>>71897759
Look man I hate British punk but Jeffrey Lee Pierce was nothing more than pussy. He did all that shit because he wanted that image but that's not who he actually was. Watch this documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcNAYIdgkKo

>>71897777
QED

quads erat demonstratum

>>71897777
Fuck off faggot. Nobody likes Television outside of the internet. They ain't worth shit.

>>71897772
>Television debut album was released in '77
>post punk

You know what "post" means you fuckin retarded?

>>71897804
NOBODY FUCKIN CARES ABOUT TELEVISION

>>71897772
>wah wah my womym

Fucking kek. get the fuck outta here tumblrina

>>71897804
you clearly fucking don't if you think post- in the context of music means "after"
post-punk started mostly simultaneously with punk

>>71897842
post punk was a response to punk so no it didn't

>>71897818
Ok I'll watch it. Thanks for the rec

>>71897772
Women can't into punk dude. That's why every riot grrl band fucking sucks

The only genrer british people did better than americans is prog rock

>>71897865
Meant to quote: >>71897788

>>71897818
>no one cares about Television
>one of the most critically acclaimed american bands

Go brush your teeth bong

brit punk was always about fashion more than anything they were fucking awful lmao

>>71897948
Wire>Television

>>71897428
Tard?

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sorry, but its not

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Suck my fuck, Crumpet.

>>71897712
us hardcore
not exactly punk

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>>71899081
are you even trying lad?

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>>71897468