Why do people say hip hop isn't an electronic music subgenre?

>>71896127
who says that?

>>71896139
people

>>71896127
Because it's not.

>>71896146
which people?

>>71896153
well theres him
>>71896148

It doesn't sound much like one, the sound should dictate the genre rather than anything else. Anyway it is more like a soul/funk/reggae subgenre with crossover into electronica

>>71896185
which is still electronic you fucking dumbass

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>>71896174
You honestly think stuff like Grandmaster Flash was rooted in electronica?

>>71896185
>the sound should dictate the genre rather than anything else

But it doesn't.

>>71896206
>DJ scratching records on twin turntables
>anything but

This is some weak b8

>>71896206
tell me what kind of equipment did he use
electronic or acoustic?

>>71896214
No it doesn't because the tards that care so much about genres are only able to think in narrow, non-abstract ways so the sound is secondary and the equipment the only thing they seem to consider.

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>>71896229
Have a great thread

>>71896254
>no arguments
>just reaction images
aren't you late for middle school?

>>71896247
You mean literally everyone then.

Wikipedia, Grove Encyclopedia, Last.fm, RYM, Discogs, Allmusic...

Electronic music is music made with electronic instruments.

>>71896127
>implying that all electronic music is one genre
I hate this meme.

>>71896299
It literally shows 11 different genres and sub genres for each

>>71896284
>Wikipedia, Last.fm, RYM, Discogs
All user edited, by the same kind of unimaginative personalities as you. Grove certainly doesn't classify hip hop as electronic.

As >>71896254 said, have a great thread. I have no need to argue this with a genre tard.

>>71896355
Including hip hop

>>71896405
Are you denying hip hop is electronically produced music?

>>71896139
people.

>>71896127
WE WUZ KANGS

>>71896127
Probably because it comes from a different musical lineage. Most of that chart share a relatively recent common musical ancestor but you'd have to go further back to link hip hop.

>>71897207
Hip hop and techno both have origins in electro and Jamaican music.

>inb4 muh funk and soul
Sampling those genres != the genre

>>71897313
But electro and dub are not at all alike, they aren't a common ancestor.

Dub and hip hop shares a lineage with plunderphonics, music concrete, tape music, and early experimental turntable stuff, while the majority of everything else on that list comes from synthesizer music which comes a lot later than messing around with tapes and recordings.

>>71896229
so rock is a subgenre of electronic music too?

>Subgenres
Plebs detected

>>71897859
If the guitar is an electronic instrument, yes.

>>71898227
meant for
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