>capitalizing on your wife's death

>It's not for singing about, it's not for making into art
>sings about it, makes it into art

>>71893571
This is fucking ridiculous. You suggest that I can't take criticism as I sit here for HOURS fending off a bunch of raging retard aspies. What fucking mental institution did you whores escape from? I feel like I'm in some alternate universe where sane thought has been replaced by mental retardation. You guys think that I'm so bad because I judge people's music taste yet you're doing THE SAME THING. You are fucking hypocrites of the highest god damn caliber. Next time you go to a record store I hope you freak out like the autists you are make a giant fucking mess of a situation where everybody around you laughs. It must be hard not having any fulfillment in life beyond winning internet arguments with strangers, mustn't it? Learn some basic human fucking respect you shitlicking neanderthal scum. It's not hard to talk without using memes all the fucking time.You argue solely with greentext and stupid reaction images, it's like FOR FUCKS SAKES just talk like a person. None of you EVER explained how jazz is in any way, shape, or form even moderately engaging on the most basic fucking level. You are are all toilet humping trannies who probably post pictures of yourselves in rainbow thigh-highs for attention because you have no way of getting it in real life. Stop replying and go jerk off to captain beefhearts autistic fish head orgy you stupid fucking queers. I hope you all fall into fucking manholes and break your skulls open, god you are fucking retarded.

This is fucking ridiculous. You suggest that I can't take criticism as I sit here for HOURS fending off a bunch of raging retard aspies. What fucking mental institution did you whores escape from? I feel like I'm in some alternate universe where sane thought has been replaced by mental retardation. You guys think that I'm so bad because I judge people's music taste yet you're doing THE SAME THING........

Look a post worst than yours.

he's talked about how he feels conflicted about it in literally every interview he's given about this album. it's his job to make songs and release records

>>71893571
Also, cremation saves on average $10,000

>>71893583
that's the point, he's being hypocritical and he knows it but it's all he can do at this point to cope

>>71893583
>being this retarded
now all you need is a tripcode

>>71893600
samefag

>>71893571

>trolling on an ancient Atlantis prison camp license plate pressing forum

>>71893583
No, take him at his word. This album is not about death. There's more to it than meets the eye.

>>71893609
in what way?

>>71893571

>capitalizing on the Vietnam War
>It ain't me stars playing

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>>71893571

>capitalizing on your vacuum

@71893620
in the way you replied to my post with the same meaning at least twice, and the number of posters didn't increase on the second time

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>>71893571

>capitalizing on your own suicide

Lost all respect for Elliott.

DEVESTATING
HEARTCRUSHING
STREAM IT HERE ON MY AD SPONSORED WEBSITE

The fucking point is that he could have done this mourning project and NOT sold it.
It's not even that good apart from the story.

My point is that as much as I pity the man, and cried several times from this album.
He's selling his dirty laundry.

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>>71893571

>capitalizing on your arrowheads

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>>71893571

>capitalizing on your seizures

>>71893691
would you prefer he and his daughter go hungry?

>>71893691
He said in an interview that the major cause for the album was money for his daughter. That, and if he didn't release music he would be in the poorhouse.

>>71893652
Yeah, because you and I were the only posters in here. God, you're retarded.

>>71893709
>>71893701
That's a bit different then.
As OP, I consider this a legit opinion.

As for me, I'd get a side job as an alternative to selling the story about my dead wife.

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>>71893571

>capitalizing on your dead Korean boxer

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>>71893571

>capitalizing on your old boots

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>>71893571
>capitalizing on your own death

>>71893741

And that's why you'd be a terrible father. Luckily, that won't ever happen, though.

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>>71893571

>capitalizing on Katrina

>>71893768
Getting a job is being a bad father?

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>>71893571
>capitalizing on your capitalism

>>71893804

>Making money that is directly brought in by something you did is not a job

Damn, it must feel amazing not knowing basic definitions.

>>71893741
It is possible he has a job and not only still continues to engage in the craft both he and his wife pursued (the craft that brought them together and made up most of both of their lives), but is required to continue to sell music in addition to his job because, suddenly without a second provider and in the vacuum of hospital bills, he is having difficulty making ends meet.

Just a possibility.

Have you ever made money from music? Do you have the option or the experience to compare your life to his?

>>71893827
don't be silly anon, everyone knows creating art isn't a proper job! phil should be doing something proper like delivering pizzas

>>71893844
I have, but not in the same nature.
Why doesn't he sell a piece of her grave while he's at it.

>>71893862

>The United States Supreme Court held that “to be engaged in a trade or business, the taxpayer must be involved in the activity with continuity and regularity and that the taxpayer’s primary purpose for engaging in the activity must be for income or profit. . . . A sporadic activity, a hobby, or an amusement does not qualify.”

Don't be silly anon, everyone isn't as embarrassingly stupid as you!

>capitalizing on your shitposting

The best part is that this is maybe his best reviewed album of all time and will be brought up for years and years to come. This shitposting will be forgotten so incredibly quickly.

>>71893922
Nope, when it's wrong, it's wrong.

>>71893931

0/10 you're just butthurt

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>capitalizing on the death of the man you murdered

>>71893968

>capitalizing on the death of the world trade

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>capitalizing on the death of Kurt Cobain

>>71893571

>capitalizing on a thousand lonely suicides

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>>71893571

>capitalizing on your guitarist's headshot

>>71893890
c'mon man, I was clearly mocking that other anon

>>71893939
No, just slightly unsettled by the fact that no one's saying how exploitable this is.

>>71894035

>capitalizing on another anon's shitposting

Who's the real monster here, anon?

>>71893867
>I have, but not in the same nature.

Are you a musician who makes money from his trade and/or do you have a deceased spouse and infant child?

>>71894053
Nope, I'm not a talentless hack either.

>Basinski - Disintegration Loops
>capitalising on 9/11

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PHIL KILLED HIS FUCKING WIFE BY INJECTING HER WITH CANCER
HE CAPITALIZED ON HER DEATH TWICE BY GETTING DONATIONS FROM FANS AND THEN HE PROCEEDED TO WRITE AN ALBUM ON IT
ANTHONY FANTANO FOUND OUT BUT PHIL PAID HIM A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GIVE HIS ALBUM A 9 AND KEEP QUIET ABOUT PHIL'S EVEIL WAYS
THE GLOW PT 2 IS SHIT

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>capitalising on your feels

>>71894081
>I'm not a talentless hack either.

What is your talent?

What have you produced of substance?

>make a career as a songwriter
>should stop working forever because wife died

?

>>71894218
why are there so many obnoxious cunts from mucord who don't have an opinion that's special or unique tripfagging lately
you AND skabetty, damn

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>>71894326
I dont like mount eerie and I think they are extremely overrated
shitposting is all I have left in my life
at least let me have this anon

>>71894326
>mucord
Oh lord, theres a /mu/ discord or what

so Ravens is the best song, right

>>71894729
There is a /mu/ discord and it is a huge shithole (just like the board!)
>>71894743
Yes

>>71894037
this opinion is so subjective that it ends up just being a distillation of idiocy.

you made this thread so you could actually have 'people' to talk to. there's really no other explanation.

What the fuck, there's a /mu/ discord?
Link?

>>71894815
https://discord.gg/urg6rrz

I wouldn't care if the music was good but its utter, contrived garbage.

>>71894886
Yeah basically

Caring about this album at all and taking it even remotely seriously hinges on you already being emotionally invested in his story. It's backed up by months of real emotional buildup and drama thathousands of people have been closely following. When people give 5 star ratings to this album, they're giving a 5 star rating to their own ability to follow an emotional arc. I'm not putting down the man's right to grieve in whatever way he feels necessary and I don't buy that it's a cynical cash-grab or anything like that - I'm sure it is 100% genuine. But it isn't good music, it isn't even bad music - it's barely music at all and it certiainly isn't noteworthy. The fact that it's getting rave reviews is frankly patronising and insulting.

i would kill my wife for critical acclaim desu

>>71895007
Like you know when Blackstar dropped and everyone got mad that people weren't separating the art and the context? This must be how they felt. But the thing is, Blackstar was backed with great creative SONGS and songwriting, compelling production and lyrics, a couple of fantastic music videos.

This is just a desperately sad man outpouring his grief in the only way he can, yet people are buying into it as this artistic masterstroke. It's disgusting really. It's everything Elliott Smith's detractors say come true. A cultish fetishization of despair. Artistic quality no longer matters to anyone - as long as you're depressed, as long as you're struggling, as long as you're unhappy then we'll accept you.

The music listening community has gone off the deep end.

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>capitalizing on the holocaust

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>>71895007
Sounds familiar

>>71893586
k

>>71894081
yeah, you couldn't sell shit if you tried. you're just talentless

>>71893709

How does a 30-something year old dude like phil have no marketable skills for a fucking job?

>>71893709
>every 13 year old white boy who likes music and uses the internet buys a vinyl copy of his ep for their crosley
>poor house
yeah right. hes rich as fuck and moving to a private island he even mentions this in the album.

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>Capitalizing on your dying wife

>>71895062

Really good post.

>>71896898

>"wife"

aren't they "separated" or some shit

>>71894248
>capitalizing on your own imprisonment

>>71893691

He's a musician.

His job is literally to make music about his feelings so that he can feed his daughter and himself.

What fucking else is he supposed to do?

>>71893583
>it's not made for anyone
>releases it as both a gofundme item and makes it available for purchase through multiple online marketplaces.

>>71896992
>What fucking else is he supposed to do?
get a much more stable job to feed for his daughter now that he's the only breadwinner in the house.

>>71897187

Jeez, man. It's been a few months. Give the guy a fucking break. His wife just died. He is doing the best he can.

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>capitalizing on your talent

participating in a capitalist system is unethical by nature imo

>>71897352
tru

>>71893696
He really milked those for all he could

>>71897352
I guess he should just lay down and die huh

>>71893676

underrated post

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>capitalizing on your vocalists suicide

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>capitalizing on mozart

>>71896830
He's done nothing but make music since he was 17 interning at K Recs

>>71893571
fuuuuuuck you

>>71897154
>Phil should die of starvation because I'm a retard
compelling argument

>>71896889

He's not rich don't be fucking stupid.

But there is a valid point to be made here. He's definitely not poor either, and he didn't "need" to make this album to live since he could just re-release some boxset and make a bunch of money (or in any case, the kickstarter campaign got him a lot of money that ultimately wasn't used). I don't think this was the reason why he released the album, and I don't think Phil sees himself or cares about seeing himself as some sort of saint. He most probably just sees himself as an artist, and thus felt an obligation to produce this piece of art. I'm sure he's aware of how people would perceive this decision and make it seem like he's being hypocritical/immoral or this album looking like a pity case, tbf this probably was forefront in his mind when making it. He's not denying wanting to be loved and wanting others to acknowledge his pain, he talks about it constantly, what's so wrong with that?

>>71893645
i kek'd

>>71893571
>sings about how death isn't artful but real
if he really loved her how will he be able to preform these songs over n over

>>71898649
but who'd be there to write the album of the year about it?