1st wave Black Metal is better than 2nd wave Black Metal

>>71799799
nice digits cool taste dude

>>71799828
>>71799835
What is your favorite 1st wave black metal album?

>>71799799
arguable

but you know what's way better than both? post-2000 black metal that tries to sound like 1st wave BM by playing Motörhead riffs.

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>>71799828
>>71799872
I don't know much about 1st wave black metal tho. Can you recommend some?

>>71799914
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u7ZH8Jqt3E
True. This whole demo is awesome.

>>71799914
That is some good shit, I'll admit, Toxic Holocaust is probably my favorite of that group. Can you recommend me any?
>>71799967
>Tormentor
Good taste
Start by telling me what you have heard from 1st wave and what you like.

>>71800003
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-u7ZH8Jqt3E
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>>71799799
Delete this

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>>71799799
This.

>>71800018
Bünker 66 my man

masters hammer

>>71800003
Good shit, I'm listening to it right now and so far it sounds like the logical conclusion to hardcore punk and 1st wave black metal. I just looked it up on RYM and it has a 0.77 rating though.

>>71800060
Let's be honest here, Varg is easily the worst of the main 2nd wave black metal bands.

>>71799967
>>71800018
Almost few of them. Bathory, Sarcofago, Blasphemy... and I liked almost of them. Just recommend your best ones. thanks.

>>71800139
True he is a bloody moron. Still if we compare him the rest of the scene... well let's say we aren't dealing here with intelectuals

>>71800262
Alright:
>Venom (if you consider them black metal)
>Hellhammer
>Early Sodom (Sign of Evil, Witching Metal)
>Early Mayhem (Deathcrush)
>Antichrist
>Morbid

>>71800304
I meant more in terms of music rather than him as a person.

>>71800304
Intellectuals are usuallly fucking terrible persons though

The second wave of the 2nd wave black metal (Mayhem and Bathory worship bands that were formed either right before or right after Euronymous' death) are the best black metal ever had to offer.

>>71800327
Thanks. Is Antichrist from hungary?

>>71800395
Yeah, if I remember correctly, it has some of the same guys from Tormentor. It's even more raw than Tormentor too. Try their album "Dark Age....In the Very Beginning"

>>71800139
How so?

>>71800448
It's just got harsher riffs, screechier vocals, more lo-fi production, and darker atmosphere.

"first wave black metal" is basically proto-black metal

>>71800383
Name some of the best ones

>>71800493
2nd wave of black metal is basically just copying 1st wave but with """atmosphere'""

>>71800500
Tsjuder, Gehenna, Carpathian Forest, Drottnar, Mare, Dodheimsgard, Krypt, Blodsgard, Koldbrann, Throne of Katarsis, Aura Noir, Hades Almighty

>>71800631
Of the ones I've heard from that, they were just okay like Gehenna and Carpathian Forest.

>>71800672
I can respect your opinion.

>>71800599
nah that's just norsecore. Norwegian black metal is only one regional scene out of all 2nd wave black metal.

>>71800719
What is your favorite metal album of all time?

>>71800736
Nah, Norsecore is like that Marduk album Panzer Division where it's literally just constant riffs and screaming with no actual substance trying to be the """fastest""" ever while making allusions to norse stuff.

>>71800777
trips confirm

>>71800748
I would honestly be hard pressed to pick just one.

You never want to appear too entry-level to other enthusiasts of the genre, although I normally don't really care. I don't want to act like an avant-teen either, though, and name something obscure I don't really enjoy just for the sake of namedropping as others would.

If I'm simply honest with myself though I'd probably have to say it's De Mysteriis. I've tried really hard to find something similar to it, in all ways, but always failed. I enjoy Mayhem's post-Euro discography too, but it's just not the same. Be it due to the history behind the album or due to its actual musical content, it's just too special for me to not consider it my favorite.

What is yours?

>>71800851
I respect that, Mysteriis is a god-tier album that Mayhem could never replicate again, nor any other band for that matter.
My favorite metal album is probably Under the Sign of the Black Mark, although it constantly changes with Bathory albums and I'll admit Slayer's first 5 albums are among my favorites too.
I find myself coming back to their discographies more than any other metal group.

>>71800944
Awesome choice. Bathory is really, really good. I enjoyed their debut quite a lot when younger and I can safely say it's what got me into black metal.

Hey guys, OP here, I just found this really good early BM style album through the related videos of this album >>71800003
I really like the tired sort of vocals and the riffs are great as all early BM style speed metal records are.

>>71800631
Literally all 3rd tier shit. Hades and Gehenna may be exempt.

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>>71800972
Yeah, at different points I'll like different Bathory albums the most. Sometimes I'm in the mood for their self titled albums' pure Venom like fun and exciting kind of evil. At other times I want the more slow and heavy, yet carefully crafted and melodic The Return, with its ultra grim atmosphere. I still think that album has some of the best atmosphere of any album ever. Then of course there's Black Mark, which sort of has the best aspects of the first two albums. Then there's Blood Fire Death which is also atmospheric but more for nordic battles of course, with his vocals at their most trained, and some of the most complex riffs with slower and faster ones at just the right time and "epic" (dare I say it, since I hate using that word) moments like on Fine Day to Die and the title track. And, there's Hammerheart, his most epic album with the thickest riffs and the fantastic full viking feel to it.

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Forgot to put the pic with my post

>>71801067
Being the Bathory fan that you are, do you actually care for albums such as the Nordland ones?

>>71801024
>>71800108

>>71801165
Yeah, Nordland I & II are fucking great, when I first got into Bathory, when I was only used to like Metallica and stuff, I only really liked the viking albums and at one point my favorite was Nordland II. I've come a long way from then but I still hold a special regard for Nordland I and II. I didn't really like Twilight of the Gods that much at first but I've come to appreciate it a lot more recently.

>>71801024
Good taste

is there a chart for 1st wave black metal?

>>71800108
These guys are 2nd wave

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>>71802150
Here you go.

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>>71802172
Aren't the close enough to be first wave since they started in '87?
>>71802150
I think, I just don't know where to find it right now. Here's a similar one though

>>71802437
Master's Hammer is arguably both first and second wave.

>>71800631

>Aura Noir
>black metal

pick one, tard

>>71803063
It's Black/Thrash, just stfu and kys

How do we revive 1st wave black metal guys?

>>71799828
agreed